Ship Simulator
English forum => Vessel Design Group general => Development corner => Active Projects => Topic started by: Mr Robville on November 26, 2008, 20:31:17
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hi there, lots of people would wonder why i started a seccond project, well here is the answer.
i started this project actualy before the poseidon project, by making concept 3d models and blueprints.
because its a very hard task to find where to ask for permission for the poseidon i want one of my models in ship simulator 2008.
so i came with a brand new idea, designing my own vessel, no permission needed.
to remember: i will not stop the poseidon project ;)
so this is the plan:
my dream is to become a naval architect (vessel designer) so i practice every day with designing my own cruiseliners, none of them really came anywhere exept one: the MS Oceana, there already exists an ship in the world having that name, but it's not related to my project, i named the ship oceana before i knew the name already existed.
the ship is taller, wider and longer then the Qm2, it will have a greater capacity then the FotS
here is the blueprint:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceana.jpg)
completely designed by myself and should be seaworthy if it should be made in real.
designed for transatlantic voyages and/or caribbean cruises
here is some of the first 3d renders made in 3ds Max 8:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceana2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceana1-1.jpg)
i will try to make the level of detail at its maximum, and optimized as well.
i already practised with engine room panels:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/panel2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/panel3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/panel-1.jpg)
i will not make this for virtual sailor, this is just only for Ship Simulator
Let me know what you think of it ;D
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Looks great, good to see I'm not the only one who want's to be a ship designer :D
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This one i much better! ;D
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That looks superb. I would love to design ships too. The blueprint reminds me of a dominic vaccaro cruise ship, I think its that stern. Although the render looks nothing like Vaccaro's ship. but there you go, The ship looks great.
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thanks guys ;D
i am thinking of what i should make first, the bridge or the engine room ;D
meanwhile i will continue on the upper decks
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Very Impressive, great job!!! ;D
Found those 'buttons' textures on CG textures? I think I used them too at one time. But they could be hosted on other sited too of course.
Fred
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thanks ;D
yes i found them on cgtextures ;D
i downloaded texturs like crazy, but i soon got to my limit :D
i always takes the lowest resolution, it's small and has enaugh detail for me, games would only lagg if you would use big textures ;)
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here it is:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/engineroom1.jpg)
the ehh.. engine room :D
i know you guys are thinking WTF, but these are just the outside walls and bottom floors, you can't reconize a engine room in it right now, but it's 1% done ;D
after the engines and framework is placed it will look much better ;)
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update:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/engineroom2.jpg)
i did some of the framework ;D
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Uhm..are you going to "framework" the whole ship? Wouldn't that end up in a massive bunch of polygons? ;D
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nah only the engine room ;)
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thanks ;D
yes i found them on cgtextures ;D
i downloaded texturs like crazy, but i soon got to my limit :D
i always takes the lowest resolution, it's small and has enaugh detail for me, games would only lagg if you would use big textures ;)
There's a limit? ::)
I guess I have to ditch the big textures and start taking only smaller ones then.. I've been gathering them at some speed too from there.. heh. But great source for textures though, isn't it?!
Fred.
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yes it is ;D
here is also a new image:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/engine1.jpg)
the engine (under construction ofcourse) ;D
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mr robville, this vessel is simply amazing, i hope to see her one day enter the waters of Ship Simulator 2008.
Kapn Jonah
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thanks ;D
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an increadible cruise ship and very elegant.
p.s.would this by anychance become a virtual sailor addon?
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thanks, so far i am not planning for adding this ship for virtual sailor, because the details are too high, i would adjust everything to VS instead of SS ;)
even i were planning, i would announce this project in non SS08 projects
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awesome ship, maybe you could make the stern a bit more rounded.
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thanks ;D
maybe i can tweak the design a bit at the edges, but im not really planning with making the stern more round.
reason: there will be a marina yacht/yetski door at the back with a portable dock (if it would exist in real)
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take a look at this:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/engineclay.jpg)
i found out how to make clay renders in cinema 4d ;D
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that looks nice
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thanks ;D
maybe i can tweak the design a bit at the edges, but im not really planning with making the stern more round.
reason: there will be a marina yacht/yetski door at the back with a portable dock (if it would exist in real)
Ah I see, good idea. :)
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thanks ;D
here is a new update:
this time some more detail
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/engine2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/engine3.jpg)
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Nice, what is the funnel gonna look like because I didn't get much from the blueprints for that?
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the funnel looks familliar to the one on the ocean star ;)
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well carnival curies lines has that type of funnel
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i choose that type of design because behind the funnel, there is a garden and pool section loacted, to have a nice sky view, it needs that sort of funnel, because the smoke gets out of the end of the wings.
P.S. carnival cruises have a squarish shape of funnel, the ocean star has a very round shape.
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that amy be, but Ocean Star was based on Carnival Legend.
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indeed
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the funnel looks familliar to the one on the ocean star ;)
Ah I see, that will be good
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new render ;D
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/engine4.jpg)
bits by bits it gets more detail, my work gets finally closer to the detail at shipsimulator ;D
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new render:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/engine5.jpg)
some of the top details
;D
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Superb work!
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thanks ;D
i made some more detail at the other side too:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/engine6.jpg)
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You getting better and better! :D
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Amazing. What is a "Clay model" you are talking about?
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mmmm...this looks tasty :D
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mmmm...this looks tasty :D
Tasty?!
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thanks guys ;D
Amazing. What is a "Clay model" you are talking about?
you mean clay render, this is a render setting which fills almost all corners with shadows, and has a better lightning, untextured models will look like its made of clay.
example:
model normal rendered:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/window.jpg)
model clay rendered:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/window2.jpg)
this render setting is very usefull if you want to show tiny details like bolts and small/thin plates on a big frame, a normal render doesn't show those details clearly, a clayrender does ;D
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new screenshot:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/engine7.jpg)
control panel added, and a few more details ;D
i hope you guys like it ;D
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Incredible!! Brilliant work!! The detail is amazing, i'm sure V-step would have no problem over putting this fine ship into SS!
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Agreed, excellent work! :)
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thanks guys ;D
and it doesn't use too much textures too ;D
this engine model uses 6 textures which are all low resolution, but you can't notice a thing ;D
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thanks guys ;D
and it doesn't use too much textures too ;D
this engine model uses 6 textures which are all low resolution, but you can't notice a thing ;D
Thanks for clearing that up with me. I'm gonna use a clay render from now on.
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great ;D i love clay renders
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Excellent work, mr. robville, I love it!! ;D
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Me like that model very much ;D
This must be included in SS08 or SS09 :)
You are an very good modeller Robville ;)
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no joke there CB!
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really thanks guys ;D i'll try to do the best i can for this model ;D
it took me a couple of years before i could actualy make some decent models
take a look at this:
my first 3d model from no tutorial:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/titanicrenault-1.jpg)
and the same car after 2 years:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/renault1.jpg)
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very nice :o ;D
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really thanks guys ;D i'll try to do the best i can for this model ;D
it took me a couple of years before i could actualy make some decent models
take a look at this:
my first 3d model from no tutorial:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/titanicrenault-1.jpg)
and the same car after 2 years:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/renault1.jpg)
Is that the car from titanic?
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yes it is, a renault towncar 1912 to be exactly ;)
for my titanic mod
very nice :o ;D
thanks ;D
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Oh My god i have to ask frank or wout to take a look at this is very good dare i say better than POSEIDON i realy think so dont you guys... I must ask you can you show us another Outside shot of the ship with the funnel and dome on it if you dont mind this is very good
(P.S. Will You be working on this Project more than poseidon cause i think this ones your best work yet)
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i think the bow is to pointy, too sharp you shoul make it more round sort of like poseidon a little bit but deffinatly more round i like this project alot
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the 3d renders of the outside are just quick renders, there are still lots of bugs in it like crossing faces ect. maybe i can switch off between the engine room and the exterior.
thanks you like it ;D
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i think you would get more publisty if you only showed the ship updates not cars ;D and i think you should give them a picture of the exterior
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Yeah, any updates Mr Robville?
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not yet, im doing some titanic mod work right now, after that i will be back on the oceana ;)
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Cool, cant wait :)
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ok, just switched over from titanic to oceana ;D
i am doing a little extra on this ship, i want to show the big diffrence between the luxury of the ship's workers and the passengers, below there are the workers in a hot and dirty engine room, while 7 decks above people are having a luxury life over there.
so i want to make one of the mid-class cabins.
im now designing the room in autocad, and i will show the first 3d images soon ;)
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sounds good...
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here is the first image ;D
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cabin1.jpg)
walls placed and doorholes added.
the floor will be changed ofcourse, it's only added to make the illustration a bit nicer ;D
next step, doors, doorframes, and balconie railings, and maybe the floor updated ;D
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Nice....very nice
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yes very nice, good job
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thanks ;D
here is a new update:
doors added,
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/doors.jpg)
all with the smallest details, and ofcourse, the frontdoor with security card reader and spy hole:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/frontdoor.jpg)
the scene from above:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/scenedoors.jpg)
now i will change the floor ;D
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Very good ;D
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here, i changed the floor:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/carpeyyt.jpg)
the floor uses only one texture with an height of 1024 pixels, looks good and is well optimized ;D
plus i added window holes
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WOW! :D
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excellante! :D
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Very impressive, great job
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thanks guys ;D
here new update:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/railing-1.jpg)
railing added
and i added bottom edges to the walls:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/plints.jpg)
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i think this makes it look like a real cabin on a luxurious liner ;D
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/room2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/room3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/room4.jpg)
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Do you sit at your PC and model vessels all day? :D
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actualy yes, but i have played Age Of Empires II too ;D
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I'm speechles, merry christmas
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merry christmas to you too ;D
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new update, windows added and slide doors too ;D
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/windows1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/door1.jpg)
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:o...
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new renders ;D
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/balconieroom1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/balconieroom2.jpg)
these two above are clay rendered
same as the rest actualy,
i have added the walls in the bathroom:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bathroom.jpg)
and the closet:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/closet.jpg)
this is how the current scene looks:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/room6.jpg)
i now have done the small toilet in the corner too, but i haven't made a screenshot yet. ;)
i hope you guys like it ;D
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Stunning! great work robville
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thanks ;D
yesterday i made the kitchen walls too:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/kitchen.jpg)
now the model of the room itself is now done, now let's start decorating ;D
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new update:
bar and couch added:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bar1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/couch.jpg)
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How much are you charging per suite for a two week cruise round all the ports in the game? :) :P
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well, i think it won't be less then €4000 for each person in this room ;)
here is a new image,
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bed.jpg)
ofcourse, for a luxury cruise, that useless ammount of decoration pillows is always neccesairy ;D
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Phewwwwww, maybe after the credit crunch :P
Looks great :)
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sometimes i try to find cheap cruises, but finaly it always ends with a bunch of money,
quite strange that i found that you van have a 7 day cruise on the Freedom of the seas, for just above $300
ofcourse, you won't have a cabin like the one i'm making, but the idea is great ;D
btw here are 2 images of the same render in the current situation:
one normal rendered, took less then half a minute
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/room7.jpg)
one clay rendered, took 1:05:55 hours to make :o
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/room8.jpg)
im taking some tutorials for rendering, and when this room is finished, i will try to make some ''almost realistic'' renders ;D
P.S. have you noticed the bar seats :D
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LOL, news to me to :P
Lovley renders :)
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NICE, I love those renders, I really hope vstep will put the ship in the game
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thanks guys ;D
im now practising with the Vray render, if it works, i can have a image like this one here:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/2hourrender.jpg)
i did not made this, it's part of a tutorial, when i look at the name of the file, it's called 2hourrender :o
luckely the guy in the tutorial says he has one single 2.2GHZ processor, i use a 1.9GHZ, but it's a Dual core, which renders twice as fast ;D
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will u please post a picture of the exterior & the bridge
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i can hardly post a image of something that isn't made yet ;)
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Full interiors to ships are ALWAYS nice! ;D
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oh sorry but I think you shold start because it would bring great amount of people, so what's the first picture of the ship
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i posted a few quick renders at the first post of this topic, ;)
and guys... aint this awsome? ;D:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Vray_Oceana1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Vray_Oceana2.jpg)
and guess what, these renders took a bit more then 10 minutes!
not bad for a beginner with Vray right? ;D
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If I didn't already now it was a 3d model I'd ask you, in what which ship you took those pics
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thanks guys ;D
here is a new pic:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Vray_Oceana3.jpg)
i have put the level of detail slightly higher, to notice it a bit, you have to take a look at this:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Vray-qualitydiffrence.jpg)
(top one, low detail, bottom one higher detail)
you'll barely notice
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They look sooooo lovely!
Right about relaxing atmosphere!
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A view like that would be more fitting for an ocean liner, as a cruise ship pulls into port every day. Also, we could use a more modern ocean liner! ;D
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simply magnificent!
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thanks guys ;D
i think too that this ship is better suited for ocean travels, i designed her to do both, transatlantic crossings, and cruises ;D
ofcourse in real world that is impossible, anyway because i like the Vray so much, i will make every next room render with vray ;D
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and ofcourse, what can be better then watching sunset while lying in a deckseat ;D
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Vray_Oceana4.jpg)
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another update:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Vray_Oceana5.jpg)
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Vray is very expensive isn't it? :P
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actualy less then i thought, it was €790 instead of near the 4000 that i firstly thought :o
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I know what could be better than watching a sunset in a deck chair!
Playing Ship Simulator ;D
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Playing Ship Simulator ;D
In a deck chair, while watching the sunset
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NOOOOOOOOOO!
THE SUN'S GLARE IS EVIL!
EEEEEVVVVVIIIIILLLLL!
IT BUUUUUUUUUURNS!
Just my opinion ;D :P
But seriously, bad idea if you ask me.
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Well we can cut out the sunset, then it would be perfect
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Night is best for gaming outside.
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Yeah probably it is, theres no sun shining on the screen
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Exactly.
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Yeah let's not go further offtopic, so when will there be new renders?
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really soon ;D
im working on the new stuff ;)
for the mean while, you guys can enjoy this render of the exterior ;)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceanarender.jpg)
i finaly know how to make nice water effects ;D
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magnificent! :D
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thanks ;D
btw, if anybody knows/has an idea/surgestion of something very luxury, or something that is at least needed in a luxury ocean liner cabin, please tell ;D
i want all the the smallest things that makes the passenger's voyage very pleasant.
keep it a bit realistic, so i don't want a parking garage, or a private entrance, private elevator to boatdeck, a bed that comes out of the wall, and much more of those strange idea's
more in the way of, a controll computer in the wall (smarthome idea), where you can controll your whole room with, close curtains, turn lights on/off (appart from normal light switches which will also be placed) temperature controller ect.
other idea, mounted binoculars/telescope,
(http://media.skyandtelescope.com/images/NPSApril08FarSightSkyScout.JPG)
(http://www.5dt.com/products/images/hw_virtual_binoculars_002.jpg)
ofcourse, it doesn't need to be such special, a very simple thing like a electric cooking plate is also welcome ;D
(http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/09/inductionge.jpg)
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How about doing something that you don't see on ocean/cruise liners anymore: every room in a different style than those adjacent to it?
P.S.: Are you aware that those doors must be open when you send the model to Vstep? Even if you want them to open when the player approaches them, Vstep still asks that the doors be open when you send the model.
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I seriously doubt that every cabin will be included, perhaps the odd few dotted around, I'm just dreading going down the long corridors to get to them. Mr robville you should add some paintings to the corridors to look at whilst walking to the cabins :D
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who, im not saying i will model every room, that is impossible, just this one.
people like to explore one room, but kinda booring to explore near 1000 almost identical suites right?
the interiors im planning to make:
bridge (for sure)
engine room
1 balconie cabin
corridor/route to cabin.
maybe a route to the engine room, but that will be a long way to model, and requires a lot of polygons. ;)
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As long as it got a bridge and a engine room then I'm satisfied :police:
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i will try to do all ;)
i have also started remaking the hull, the other one before had too many bugs, glitches and polys.
the scale wasn't correct either.
here are the first images:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/hull1-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/hull2-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/hull3-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/hull4-1.jpg)
i hope you guys like it ;D
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its great!!!!! :) i hope it will be in SS
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i made the hull smoother ;D:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/hull5-1.jpg)
now let's texture it, i have found a bodypaint option in Cinema 4D ;D
which makes texturing lot's easyer
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ok, texturing in Cinema 4d didn't go exactly as i expected, so i quickly used sketchup to add the texture on, the result is perfect back in Cinema 4D:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/hull6-1.jpg)
i know you guys are thinking ''what a ugly texture'' well, this is just a copied piece of the blueprint to make a reference for the real texture later, so this one has wrong colors, and a extremely low detail/resolution.
i will post a pic very soon with the real texture on it ;)
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Just littel more rounded blub... and its perfect! :D
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yeah, it still needs a little tweaks, but this looks already much better right? ;D :
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/hull7-1.jpg)
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She is looking really great! Blinding work Mr robville!
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thanks ;D
ofcourse a vray with it:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Vray_Oceana9.jpg)
;D
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looks awesome :o
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yeah, it still needs a little tweaks, but this looks already much better right? ;D :
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/hull7-1.jpg)
Yeah, now is it more realistic! ;D
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It looks good!
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thanks guys ;D
the only problem is that textures may not exeed a image width/height of 1024 pixels, this hull textures has 3000pixels in width, but if i make the resolution lower, the hull looks awfull.
maybe vstep can make an exeption, because i also don't think that the texture on titanic's hull is 1024 pixels wide
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here is another update:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/balconieroom.jpg)
i have added all balconies ;)
took quite time to optimize, because the framerate was so poor that the program almost crashed :o
now after optimizing, the scene goes very smooth ;D
i have deleted the tiny details on the railings and such, there is nothing special at them because you will almost never see them, those tiny details will be kept at the room ofcourse ;)
some of the walls between each cabin have to be deleted because some rooms occupy a space of 2 rooms like the one im modelling
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nice job mr. robville
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thanks ;D
here is a new update:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Vray_Oceana10.jpg)
front section added ;D
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Nice Mr robville, excellent work! ;D
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Magnificent and may i wish you all a very happy new year!
Tomás ;D
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thanks guys, and happy new year to you too ;D
here is a new render:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceanarend.jpg)
i added the sidewalls ;D
looks, much better now
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Looking very nice indeed!
4 Bow Thrusters!! - Will you be adding the tunnels for them?
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NICE!
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[size=200pt]NICE![/size]
hehe, a bit too big for the forum ;D
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hehe, a bit too big for the forum ;D
Yeah sorry, edited it now! just to nice and normal
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thanks guys ;D
i will now make the stern a bit ;D
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Now I'm SURE it's more fitting as an ocean liner! It looks more like Poseidon than Ocean Star.
Besides, we have no modern ocean liners!
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Now I'm SURE it's more fitting as an ocean liner! It looks more like Poseidon than Ocean Star.
Besides, we have no modern ocean liners!
well real ones there is only 1 to choose from, QM2, mind you she is the best one ;D ;D ;D
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i will change the topic title into ''Fictional OceanLiner MS Oceana'' ;)
i agree it fits better as a ocean liner.
here is a new update:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceanarend2.jpg)
the basic model of the stern is complete ;D
now i will make the top deck walls and floors ;)
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Looks Great Mr Robville, keep it up!
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those funnels lead to the azipod controll unit, a ship with azipods needs a lot of ventilation and funnels,
the main funnel is used by the engines which deliver power to the azipod engines, all the used gas will come out of these 2 funnels
here is an example:
(http://dvo.free.fr/images/Cutaway-b.jpg)
here is a new update:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceanarend3.jpg)
i have added the top deckhouses and the pool/garden windshield ;D
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nice i think it has a great chance o becoming the first usermade modell in SS
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i hope so, im working as hard as i can ;D
but aint the pushboat the first usermade model?
here is a new update:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceanarend4.jpg)
funnel and logo added ;D
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no i think the modeller worked at V-step but im not sure
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but aint the pushboat the first usermade model?
And the Elbe & Furie were created by SimonDR, a member now unactive :(
http://www.simondr.co.uk/3dobjects/vs/boats/boats.html
Oh, and he made the Clyde Puffer too ;)
EDIT: Just looked at some really old posts and found these topics:
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,50.0.html
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,52.0.html
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those ships look awsome ;D
but why did simondr did not start the topic but a moderator did?
also the pushboat looks diffrent then the one which goax presented ???
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I'm not sure about the pushboat, i think Goax made it, but it does look very different yes :-\
I'm not sure about why the moderator made the topic, but Simon has never been that active on this forum. You can download those boats at www.simondr.co.uk/3dobjects/vs/boats/boats.html for Virtual Sailor (!!Including the Clyde Puffer!!)
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cool ;D
also a lovely new update: ;D
i love to see this:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceanarend6.jpg)
turning into this:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceanarend5.jpg)
new section fits like a glove ;D
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jep thats realy lovely :D
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Vstep didn't make Titanic, either. Jason De Donno makes it, and posts about it on sites like those for the Titanic Research & Modeling Association (TRMA) and Encyclopedia Titanica (sometimes referenced as ET)
I don't think he has an account here (it would be awesome if he did!), but I know he tests his creation pre-release, so I'd imagine he would play the game, watching his hard work in action among other things.
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I'm not sure about the pushboat, i think Goax made it, but it does look very different yes :-\
I'm not sure about why the moderator made the topic, but Simon has never been that active on this forum. You can download those boats at www.simondr.co.uk/3dobjects/vs/boats/boats.html for Virtual Sailor (!!Including the Clyde Puffer!!)
Hes wip is good...!
http://www.simondr.co.uk/stuff/wip/wip.html
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Great job mr robville, only 1 suggestion. I think you should have at least 2 rooms. Because during docking, people might want a view of starboard AND port. Just an idea. Its up to you.
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BEST PROJECT I HAVE SEEN SO FAR
^_^
I jsut went from page one to page 7 reading most posts and of course looking at the pictures, and its just amazing! Hope VStep accepts it!
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really thanks ;D
i will try making the sundeck today ;D
Great job mr robville, only 1 suggestion. I think you should have at least 2 rooms. Because during docking, people might want a view of starboard AND port. Just an idea. Its up to you.
yeah, you got a point with that.
i will see how many vertices this entire model will use, if it has a too high polycount i can't add an second room.
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sundeck almost finished ;D
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceanarend7.jpg)
only some railings and details to be added ofcourse ;)
you can barely notice that there is a hole in the sundeck for the open pool area on the pool deck below
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im going to get Ship simulator soon! specially because of that model! I bet you will get super rich lool :D! And i dont really know much about SS08 but does it work for macs?
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im going to get Ship simulator soon! specially because of that model! I bet you will get super rich lool :D! And i dont really know much about SS08 but does it work for macs?
I don't think so. I would check the System Requirements.
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really thanks ;D
i will try making the sundeck today ;D
yeah, you got a point with that.
i will see how many vertices this entire model will use, if it has a too high polycount i can't add an second room.
Thanks. I try to help. :)
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So what DOES the funnel look like? I think you gave us the wrong pic at the top of the page :P
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hey, great you notice!
normaly i expect a image is correct when i post a message, well this image should have placed there:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceanarend4.jpg)
the funnel looks kinda strange though, so will probaly change it in the future ;)
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i have changed that post too ;)
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Looks good, but yeah your right I don't like the funnel :P
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Me either, but yeah, I noticed it when I first saw, but never brought it up until now :P
Also, this won't be Oceana Cruise line, now will it? ;D :P
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yeah, i will change that one time ;)
im thinking what has to be in place of that
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Transatlantic_shipping_companies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Transatlantic_shipping_companies)
Wiki's list of trans-atlantic companies. All the English ones end in "Line" with the exception of 1 "Inc"
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Well, its 6AM and im sitting here thinking ideas to give.
Why not a big arch high above garden,etc.?
Something along the lines of....
?
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i will figure something with the name ;)
about the funnel
i had the same thought as Cushioncraft :D
maybe i'll make it like the ocean star (yes that shape is diffrent then this one)
or just a brand new funnel like normal ocean liners.
Well, its 6AM and im sitting here thinking ideas to give.
Why not a big arch high above garden,etc.?
Something along the lines of....
?
i don't know if that fits this ship, but could be a plausible idea, the reason i want a birdshape funnel is because no smoke interrupts the sky view from the garden. so i will try to keep that ;)
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here's a new update:
bridge and rest of topdeck houses added:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/vrayoceana11.jpg)
the antenna, sonars and radars, (the antenna needs more detail)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/vrayoceana12.jpg)
and the 2 sundeck spotlights (one showing) :
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/vrayoceana14.jpg)
indoor pool exterior:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/vrayoceana13.jpg)
i hope you guys like it ;D
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looks still awesome as every time hehe
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Looks amazing ;)
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Looks great, Except Im not sure on the funnel, but thats up to you Mr robville, the rest of the model is once again superb!
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outstandingly stunning!
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Yeah looks great, but I personally think the bridge looks a bit small but thats just me :)
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The Bridge looks massive to me! Maybe the windows are not that tall is what you mean ???
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Bridges are designed to give a nearly 360 degree view of the ship.
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Of the ship - or rather the surrounding enviroment ;)
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You know what I meant! To get a good view al the way down both sides of the ship and the bow!
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Anyway, why does that matter? SA said he thinks the bridge looks too small, not anything about the view.
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Anyway, why does that matter? SA said he thinks the bridge looks too small, not anything about the view.
The side overhang affects the view.
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ALL ships have single story bridges.
Ever seen a bridge on a ship that was the height of 2 decks?
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the bridge height is as high as each floor indeed ;)
i will tweak the funnel a little to make it look nicer.
what the antenna consists, it is big enaugh, the ship is just huge compared to it, the width of the antenna base is 2 meters, i think that is wide enaugh.
and it's a matter of the angle of view, on the sideview it looks big enaugh:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceana.jpg)
the bridge looks so big because it has a round shape, most bridges have a slight ovall shape or have just a flat wall, so the surface looks quite big indeed ;)
and because of the fact that this ship is 50 meters wide ;D
ALL ships have single story bridges.
Ever seen a bridge on a ship that was the height of 2 decks?
not me, it has no use to occupy 2 floors for just the bridge, 1 floor is big enaugh to fitt all into
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What is that picture made in?
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Um.... Mr Robville?
Ocean Liners have their size limits....
Ships traveling between San Francisco, New York, and Southampton have the following limits:
The ship is to be no...
1) longer than the turning point near Southampton
2) taller or deeper than the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge in New York
3) wider than the Panama Canal
The QM2 broke the 3rd requirement and thus had to pay for it by going around the southern tip of South America to get to California. This caused the ship's trip to be longer and more dangerous.
In addition to breaking one requirement, it also pushed the limits on the other two.
So if this ship is going to be longer, taller, and wider....
Just a thought.
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The Bridge looks massive to me! Maybe the windows are not that tall is what you mean ???
Yeah thats right, tall, or maybe its just the light in the render :)
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maybe the bridge looks so because of the front (pic)
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Um.... Mr Robville?
Ocean Liners have their size limits....
Ships traveling between San Francisco, New York, and Southampton have the following limits:
The ship is to be no...
1) longer than the turning point near Southampton
2) taller or deeper than the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge in New York
3) wider than the Panama Canal
The QM2 broke the 3rd requirement and thus had to pay for it by going around the southern tip of South America to get to California. This caused the ship's trip to be longer and more dangerous.
In addition to breaking one requirement, it also pushed the limits on the other two.
So if this ship is going to be longer, taller, and wider....
Just a thought.
this ship also breaks the 3rd rule only, because it's only a matter of a few meters longer and taller then qm2.
the panama canal will also be made wider, i thought have read somewhere that qm2 could fit in there.
here are the technical measurements:
qm2
height : 72 meters (17 decks)
width (beam) : 41 meters
length : 345 meters
Oceana
height :75 meters (20 decks)
width (beam) : 50 meters
length : 397 meters
diffrence between this ship and qm2
height : 3 meters
width (beam) : 9 meters
length : 34 meters
height between bridge and ocean floor: 69.5 meters? (ok i'll short the antenna)
turning point southampton: ?? can't find measurements
panama canal : doesn't matter, this ship is already too wide ;)
so, nothing to worry ;)
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What is that picture made in?
program Cinema 4D R10 with Vray plugin ;)
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thanks ;D
btw, if anybody knows/has an idea/surgestion of something very luxury, or something that is at least needed in a luxury ocean liner cabin, please tell ;D
i want all the the smallest things that makes the passenger's voyage very pleasant.
keep it a bit realistic, so i don't want a parking garage, or a private entrance, private elevator to boatdeck, a bed that comes out of the wall, and much more of those strange idea's
more in the way of, a controll computer in the wall (smarthome idea), where you can controll your whole room with, close curtains, turn lights on/off (appart from normal light switches which will also be placed) temperature controller ect.
other idea, mounted binoculars/telescope,
(http://media.skyandtelescope.com/images/NPSApril08FarSightSkyScout.JPG)
(http://www.5dt.com/products/images/hw_virtual_binoculars_002.jpg)
ofcourse, it doesn't need to be such special, a very simple thing like a electric cooking plate is also welcome ;D
(http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/09/inductionge.jpg)
Well I have some good realistic ideas.
1. Air Conditioning (Simple but usefull)
2. You know the little minibars there are in hotels? That would be good!
3. A bathtube with the little jacuzi holes.
4. LCD tv that opens from the roof (http://www.sz-wholesale.com/uploadFiles/7%20Car%20roof%20mount%20TFT-LCD%20TV_610.jpg)
5. Luxury lamps/light bulbs (http://www.decorationtricks.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/schonbek-luxor-antique-lamp.jpg), (http://chezpaulettesfrenchmarket.com/themarket/images/Lillian%20lamp.jpg), (http://www.norwichchurches.co.uk/Glossary/Images/candelabrum--St-John-Timber.jpg)
6. you can put a little desk and to make it fancy put a laptop like a macbook air: http://www.gizmos.es/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/macbook-air-primeras-impresiones.jpg or an HP Laptop: http://www.warpedanimation.com/uploaded_images/hp-pavilion-dv6500t-771698.jpg
7. Chanpagne in tables (Its always good to have some whisky or champagne! ;D)
8. If youre putting a TV you need a remote control! ;)
9. A central heating device for the cold nights (http://www.mardelsur.cl/catalogo/images/F06-11.jpg)
10. fancy wardrobe!
Well I have 10 ideas only, hope you use atleast one of them LOL ;D
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Um.... Mr Robville?
Ocean Liners have their size limits....
Ships traveling between San Francisco, New York, and Southampton have the following limits:
The ship is to be no...
1) longer than the turning point near Southampton
2) taller or deeper than the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge in New York
3) wider than the Panama Canal
The QM2 broke the 3rd requirement and thus had to pay for it by going around the southern tip of South America to get to California. This caused the ship's trip to be longer and more dangerous.
In addition to breaking one requirement, it also pushed the limits on the other two.
So if this ship is going to be longer, taller, and wider....
Just a thought.
*JUST TO ADD*
TJEY CAN ALSO BE NO TALLER THAN THE BROOKLIN OR GOLDENGATE BRIDGES. WHICH ARE A BIT SMALLER THAN THE VERRANZO NARROWS BRIDGE. AND WHAT IS THE ROUTE OF THE OCEANA BECAUSE IF THE ROUTE IS GOING TO BE THE SAME AS THE QM2 IT WOULD PASS THROW HAMBURG AND CHERBURG AND IT COULD NOT BE WIDER THAT THE HAMBURG RIVER (HAMBURG IS CONNECTED TO THE OCEAN BY A RIVER)
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PS MR ROBVILLE IM WAITING FOR AN ANSWER IS SS08 (SOON SS09) POSSIBLE TO INSTAL IN A MAC COMPUTER?
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PS MR ROBVILLE IM WAITING FOR AN ANSWER IS SS08 (SOON SS09) POSSIBLE TO INSTAL IN A MAC COMPUTER?
i don't know, ask vstep or a moderator ;)
Well I have some good realistic ideas.
1. Air Conditioning (Simple but usefull)
2. You know the little minibars there are in hotels? That would be good!
3. A bathtube with the little jacuzi holes.
4. LCD tv that opens from the roof (http://www.sz-wholesale.com/uploadFiles/7%20Car%20roof%20mount%20TFT-LCD%20TV_610.jpg)
5. Luxury lamps/light bulbs (http://www.decorationtricks.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/schonbek-luxor-antique-lamp.jpg), (http://chezpaulettesfrenchmarket.com/themarket/images/Lillian%20lamp.jpg), (http://www.norwichchurches.co.uk/Glossary/Images/candelabrum--St-John-Timber.jpg)
6. you can put a little desk and to make it fancy put a laptop like a macbook air: http://www.gizmos.es/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/macbook-air-primeras-impresiones.jpg or an HP Laptop: http://www.warpedanimation.com/uploaded_images/hp-pavilion-dv6500t-771698.jpg
7. Chanpagne in tables (Its always good to have some whisky or champagne! ;D)
8. If youre putting a TV you need a remote control! ;)
9. A central heating device for the cold nights (http://www.mardelsur.cl/catalogo/images/F06-11.jpg)
10. fancy wardrobe!
Well I have 10 ideas only, hope you use atleast one of them LOL ;D
the ideas i marked green are already modelled ;)
the idea marked orange was already in the arrangement plan but not modelled yet.
i like the rest of the idea's ;D
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Hi i only want to say that if you do a laptop with hp mac or some other company name you need premision from them. ;D
PS your model are great ;)
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no worrys about that, i think i will model my laptop and just keep the manfacturer's name away ;)
im also happy to announce that the basic exterior model is done now ;D
it's just a bit above 150000 polys, the guidelines say you may not exeed 100000 polys, but thats hardly impossible for a ship like this one. in fact, the titanic model uses near 800000polys so.....
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it would also be good idea to put some couches in the wide corridors for comfort, if youre waiting somebody that has the keys of your room, or even better, you could put that cards that you put on a scanner and the door of youre room opens (http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/5826465/2/istockphoto_5826465-hand-inserting-hotel-room-door-lock-keycard.jpg)
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thanks ;D
here is a new update:
doors added,
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/doors.jpg)
all with the smallest details, and ofcourse, the frontdoor with security card reader and spy hole:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/frontdoor.jpg)
the scene from above:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/scenedoors.jpg)
now i will change the floor ;D
this was posted a while ago, do you see it ;)
about couches, corridors aren't too wide, it would only irritate staff ect. because it blocks their paths ;)
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, i mean in like a public corridor that is wide but that ideas are most likely for hotels not for cruise, in a cruise every inch in space is extremely important for comfort ;)!
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since the decks aren't fully designed yet, i can make some gaps in the corridors walls to add couches and vending mashines into ;D
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nice, again its your choice to make however you want the ship. BTW how is the poseidon going? is it over or what?
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poseidon is paused for a while, since that project doesn't really have deadlines.
but stopped? NO WAY! ;D
anyway, i finished a new turbosquid model (which finnaly couln't be uploaded because i made a MP5 SD5 gun, and heckler & koch have copyright protection on turbosquid :'( )
maybe if i delete all names and rename it to ''sub machine gun'' i can upload it, you would get the same as the cars in gta.
to get back on topic, hope you guys like this:
;D
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bridge1.jpg)
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It's realy GOOD :o waiting for Oceana and Poseidon.
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thanks ;D
remember that poseidon is currently for virtual sailor only ;)
here is a new picture, i made some of the desks:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bridge2-2.jpg)
;D
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nice!
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No offence but the funnel looks too big and skinny its too much like the ocean stars funnel. :'(
But the rest of the ship is so cool. 8)
Great Work
Is this one for Ship Sim 08 because it looks like it is to me. ???
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thanks ;D
i have already decided to change the funnel, this one is just for a impression ;)
it needs to be thicker indeed, but i keep the birdshape.
and if it wasn't for SS, it wouln't be in the active projects forum, so yes this is for SS08 ;)
and ofcourse like you did, any constructive critism is welcome ;)
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Will the funnel end up looking like the Carnival style.
One like the Carnival Prides Funnel wich is made partly of glass wich might be cool on this type of ship. :angel:
If you go to my Flickr site i have some photos of ships and some of my work on 3D MODELS enjoy 8)
Here is the Address : http://www.flickr.com/photos/26168844@N07/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26168844@N07/)
Click on the Sets at the side or scroll through the pages to see them.
Please Comment on my work it is most appreciated. 8)
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whow your pictures and models look awsome ;D
here is a new update,
i finished all the basic desks:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/desks1-1.jpg)
i can hear you guys thinking, thats a lot of desks for a bridge,
well almost every controll unit is located in the bridge:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/desks2.jpg)
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looks a bit confused but i begin to get used to it looks nice so far :D
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the only place thats importand for the game is the main console panel ;)
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yes, that was the first thing i noticed after modelling too,
i will tweak the design about that for a bit more practical setup ;)
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here is the blueprint:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceana.jpg)
I was wondering what software you used to make this blueprint of the ship. ???
A link if possible please. :)
And what program are you using to model the ship in 3D ???
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for blueprints: AutoCAD 2007
for modelling: Cinema4D R10
;)
AutoCAD is a very common tool in the world of designing ect.
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If we are going to havw this ship in SS, then don't make it have lots of details (It will cause lags)
good ship
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If we are going to havw this ship in SS, then don't make it have lots of details (It will cause lags)
good ship
Well, Alot of that depends mainly on your system. Mr Robville can go quite a way with details before he really has to worry.
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True, Titanic is at the limit apparently. But still... make it as simple yet complex as possible
You know what I mean.
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so far my model can fit 4 times in the titanic model untill it matches the same polys ;)
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ofcourse i remember ;)
i don't forget my projects, never.
i just work down a list which repeats itself:
titanic mod
poseidon
Oceana
titanic mod
poseidon
Oceana
titanic mod
poseidon
Oceana
titanic mod
poseidon
Oceana
ect. ect.
currently im working on the poseidon again, (hoping to finish the release)
then i will continue on this ship, and when i have done some work on this one i will continue the titanic mod, and so on.
sometimes there are some smaller projects between it too ;)
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I think that this is a really cool ship, but I am going to have to give it only 3 *'s. Sorry Mr. Robville :(.
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I think that this is a really cool ship, but I am going to have to give it only 3 *'s. Sorry Mr. Robville :(.
I have to disagree with you! I give it 50* ;D
Its been almost 3 months did you stop working :'(
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looking good. :thumbs:
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long time since we heard from mr. robville, anyone knows if he still is modelling on that ship?
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Yeah, thats sorta uncalled for...
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im sorry guys (again) for the unactivity for the project,
there were some other things in life that came first (nothing bad luckely ;))
i am now realy busy working on the titanicmod and finishing the final touches of the poseidon,
meanwhile this project has a little rest, don't worry, it will continue it's voyage soon ;)
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glad to hear from you again, and looking forward to see this project going ahead again.
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I have to say, this design is very much in contrast to those currently in production and has influences from both classical Liner design as well as hints of the more modern cruiseship. This design appears, yes, fairly seaworthy. Your renderings thus far are very nice. I would love to see this in action.
What you are doing here is one of the reasons I had started the NVDG. I wanted to give aspiring modelers and naval enthuiasts the chance to design high quality vessels to be added into the game. This ship accomplishes that goal and I hope to see it go further.
As with her design stats - I would be cautious with making it too large. We could all draw lessons from problems already being received by Oasis of the Seas. Many in the community fear she is pushing the limits and is going to spell trouble, despite her, in my opinion, nice design and many technological advancements.
Well done! :2thumbs:
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ok its 2010 now.
isnt there anything new to show here?
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really thanks AriesDW!
as i mentioned the project was on hold, but not for any longer.
i wasn't able to do much on the SS and VS projects because of my movement for my study in Rotterdam,
and it took a lot of time to get everything straight again as my old routine. i hope you all can understand that.
meanwhile since a couple weeks i have everything back on track. and now i read this, i really think it's time finishing this model ;D
don't worry oceandream, new screenshots soon!
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dont worry about the anything i can wait months to a couple years ::)
ps...
i know ive been rude to push the devolper on the project. :-\
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Will we see this ship at least in SS Passives or SS20 or SS56 by any chance?
Or it'll be our grand-grand-grandsons that will sail it?
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don't worry, i have seen lot worse people ;)
im glad you have great interests in my project!
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I'll leave a will to my descendants to keep an eye on this model till it'll be released somewhen in far future... ;D
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Cool design, I prefer traditional streamlined Ocean Liners, which therefore makes me extremely picky with modern ones, but well done, nice job, and I wouldn't mind having this one. Different paint scheme right?
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i like older ocean liners better aswell, they are incredible to look at.
but modern ocean liners have a bigger size.
meanwhile im not posting any updates yet, which doesn't mean i am not working on it, but i want to make a update with a lot of new stuff to show.
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WOW! I NOTICED THE TOPIC JUST NOW!!
I'M IMPRESED! I'M A VERY, VERY HUGE CRUISE SHIP, OCEAN LINER AND YACHT FAN!
THESE SHIP IS JUST AMAZING!! I CAN'T STOP LOOKING AT THE PICTURES AND PLANS!
I CAN'T WAIT THE MOMENT WHEN IT WILL BE OWER, AND I REALY HOPE YOU WILL GIVE IT TO VSTEP, AND I HOPE THEY ARE SMART ENOUGH TO INCLUDE THAT VESSEL IN THE GAME!!
- A vessel would bi the most amazing in the Ship Simulator!
- Ship Simulator definitly need more cruise ships & ocean liners
- MV Oceana is wonderful, amazing, and also very luxury ship.
- Ocean liner like that one is NEEDED INMIDIATLY!!
- A vessel like that would made a hughe media attention and that would bring more players and buyers to VSTEP
- VSTEP can be the first game developer who has the LARGEST cruise ship in virtual world, and that would definitly be a hughe sensation!
- MV Oceana IS THE VESSEL WHAT THE GAME NEEDS!
I WANT THAT SHIP IN SHIP SIMULATOR!! I'L BUY 500 COPYES OF THE GAME JUST IF THAT VESSEL IS IN IT!! OH OD, I WANT THAT VESSEL, IT WOULD BE THE GREATEST VESSEL OF SHIP SIMULATOR!!!!!!!!
IF I CAN HELP YOU IN ANYWAY TO GET THAT SHIP IN SHIP SIMULATOR LET ME KNOW, BECAUSE I'L DO EVERYTHING JUST TO SEE THAT VESSEL IN THE GAME!!
WELL DONE FOR YOUR MODEL! YOU ARE TALENTED, I HOPE YOU WILL BE A SHIP DESIGNER, AND THAT YOUR SHIP WILL SAIL, IF THAT WILL BE THE TRUE, THEN SURE I'M GOING TO RAISE SOME MONEY TO TAKE A CRUISE ON YOUR SHIP! :2thumbs:
WELL DONE!
Kind regards!
Captain. Mitch
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Yes its a very great model im the one if you look back begging for Exterior Pics lol (MMMMMM)
P.S. You right in Bold and Colors alot! Lol :lol:
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;D I wasn't here while i was writing that. The happines of seeing these model cause a head problems to me. ;)
So i just start writing all what cames on my mind, at that's just the happines caused by seeing these model.
I think all of you already now how big cruise ship, ocean liner and yacht fan am i. ;)
I really looking forward seeing these model in the Ship Simulator, it looks amazing!
I saw some cabin ( room ) pictures? That means if one day that model is in the Ship Simulator, we will be able to walk in the cabins, or some other interior structure??
One more again, AMAZING MODEL!
BTW i voted for: I want it, i want it: ***** ;)
Kind regards.
Capt. Mitch
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i want it :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
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Wooooow! I've only just come across this! But it sure is a beauty! I would love to sail it in SS!
Congratulations Mr Rovbville you have some serious talent!
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thanks a LOT everyone! im glad you all like this ship. ;D
last weeks i did a lot of work (again) on the titanic, since im now coöperating with Hudizzle. were making fast progress now and are ahead of schedule.
as a small peak of what we are making now:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Game2010-07-1316-46-48-00.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Game2010-07-1316-43-16-62.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Game2010-07-1018-48-07-29.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Game2010-07-0415-28-50-06.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Game2010-07-0415-28-21-85.jpg)
but that also means that there's not much to show from the Oceana but some fixes i made in the model and corrections.
anyway, expect the Oceana at this detail.
i will be 3 weeks on vacation from the next friday. when i get back i might be working on this ship again. as a matter of fact the only things that need to be made are:
Lifeboats.
some Corridors.
Engine room final details (yes there is more done then i have shown)
deck machinery.
the cabin is also in re-production, since im now on my laptop and not my desktop computer i can't show any screens yet, maybe tonight, or tomorow i can show them here. but that depends if i get to my desktop pc.
yes you are able to walk inside the ship, you can walk in these interiors:
bridge
corridors
suite
engine room
boatdeck Atrium level.
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Holy ****!
Very nice, you should get an designer job. You can make good moneys on it!
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*falls off chair*
Titanic Simulator?
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Modification for the game mafia, you can not sail the ship, instead you can walk around in a fully populated and 99% accurate titanic, during the voyage as for the sinking.
i am sorry that i can't get to my main pc, i will be on vacation for 3 weeks now, when i get back i can get back on my main pc, and post some screenshots of the WIP i have made meanwhile.
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Ah, OK.
looks excellent :thumbs:
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WOOOOOOOW!!
Veryy nicely done and veryy nicely detailed.
I am 100% impressed and happy with.
This is a must have for SSE.
I definitly want this..
i see no reason why vstep will not put this is SSE.
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Well i hope that too!!
I can't wait to see some new screens of M/V Oceana.
It's cool and amazing model, i can't wait to see it in SSE.
Kind regards.
Capt. Mitch
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Hi! :)
I mentioned in the other topic, that there is now a competition to include models in extremes, the winner gets 1000€!!
And if you entered you could well be in with a shot! :2thumbs:
http://www.shipsim.com/contest
Many kind regards
Matthew
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count me in! :o
titanic mod can wait a few days i think , but there's a problem, i do not own SSE. and you need a key to participate. :(
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ok finaly after a long time some updates,
i have done some other changes to the cabin, it is smaller, but it is now much more like a cabin instead of a huge living room.
i made some real quick renders using vray showing the bedroom:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Cab1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cab2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cab3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cab4.jpg)
most objects have quick textures applied on them, so it will be changed somewhere this week.
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waiting for all these months finally paid off, glad to see your working again, looks excellent.
Great job :thumbs:
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WOW... :o :o :o
That is a awesome model! Keep it up!!
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As of this post, 99 people voted that they want it ;D
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There let me make it an even 100 then. :lol:
Excellent stuff, mr robville!! :2thumbs:
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I just what to ask what color will the hull be?
Personally I think white hulls are ugly so I hope this great ships gets a black hull. But thats just me. It's your ship, do what you want. :)
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Holy macarollee! (What did I just say)
You get yourself a SSE license and enter the competition 8)
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thanks a lot all!
yesterday i have bought SSE, i am going to enter the key when i get back from school.
the hull will be black and red, and the superstructure will be white ;)
another small update of the room:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Cab5.jpg)
entrance of the cabin added, at left you can see a keylocker with a umbrella bin (or how it's suposed to be called) at right you can see cabinets with coathooks and a shoerail at the floor. also small spotlights have been added inside the cabin.
only thing left:
.bathroom
.baked textures
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Wow, Looks awesome :D :2thumbs:
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looks great, but to be hones I think you could change the floor to something a bit more new looking style, looks like the floor from our house from 1875. Besides that it really looks great.
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yes indeed, the floor wil be changed.
new update:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Cab6.jpg)
wide shower booth with soap baskets and feet panel where you could even sit on.
sink and toilet with paper.
i just realized i forgot the towel rack.
as far as the modelling concerns in the cabin, it's done.
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Cool, have you been working on the bridge? :) Just Curious :evil:
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the bridge is still the same as i left it a while ago, it will be one of the next things to be modelled after this cabin.
update:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cab7.jpg)
the floor now has a baked texture, the entrance corridor has been changed to tiles.
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baking is almost done:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Cab8.jpg)
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Excellent work Rob, you are very talented.
One questions though...
...when will it be done? I can smell it and it smells gooooood... ;D
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well, since this vessel is being made for the SSE CCContest, i am stuck with the deadline of january 10th 2011 ;)
that's the date this ship will be finished.
i have also made a new design for the funnel, it's still a concept. so any other idea's are welcome.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/OC.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Fun1.jpg)
the idea about the platform sticking out is to direct the wind upwards pusing the exhaust fumes up aswell:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Fun2.jpg)
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yeah man i like the funnel it makes the ship look streamlined
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finaly! the interior has been textured. because of the CCC guidelines i had to crop the texture which took some time. and now i have 1 model and 1 texture:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Tex1-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Tex2-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Tex3-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Tex4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Tex5.jpg)
the cabin interior only takes up half of the texture now:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Tex6-1.jpg)
still enough room left for the rest of the ship ;)
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Nice, I Absollutely love it!! :2thumbs: :captain:
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thanks ;D
now the complete cabin is finished aswell!
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/RM5.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/RM1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/RM2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/RM3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/RM4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/RM10.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/RM6.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/RM8.jpg)
ofcourse real importand to ventilate the bathroom:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/RM7.jpg)
and if there's a fire, everyone need to be alarmed ofcourse ;)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/RM9.jpg)
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I think the blue prints make for a nice touch! ;D
Is it permittable to use the image of Oasis of the Seas, though?
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i think it's legal, you are also allowed to take pictures of it and post it on websites and such.
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True,
But is the image you use in your model owned by you/made by you, or do you have permission to use it?
Cause if someone else took it, they have copyright. And you can't just get something off the net and use it, cause that would violate it.
Every part of your model should be owned/made by you, or you should have permission to use it for the purpose of this contest, under Vstep's conditions and terms.
Cause it's not just going to be displayed somewhere, it's potentially going into a commercial product. That's different than using it on a website somewhere for just the viewing pleasure of non-paying visitors.
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i did not asked for any permission as i remember that the page itself could not be found.
it's not a big image though, most likely from a cruise-booking website i think.
but if it causes copyright issues i can easly change it for a picture of the SS rotterdam i took myself ;)
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Hello!!
PLEASE READ THE WHOLE POST ( mr.robvill ).
:2thumbs: I'm impresed with your work, these model is just amazing and perfect.
I'm so, so lucky to see you working again, and you are lucky too, and now you will hear why!
Mr. robville, would you like to join the contest A.S.A.P of VSTEP?
I know you have the best chances to win these contest and won! You have the best ship i saw, and you are one of the best modelers i saw! M/V Oceana is the great ship, and i would really like to see her in Ship Simulator Extremes! And i'm sure there are big chances that my wish will come true!
1 STEP:
You problem is you don't have the Ship Simulator Extremes with CD-key?
NOT ANYMORE!
I told you i'm a cruise ship/ocean liner/yacht fan, and that i'm ready to do ANYTHING TO HELP YOU WITH THESE MODEL! And i really mean that! I'm serious, and i always was serious!
I'l do anything to help you!
Now the main part!
I'M SURE THAT I CAN PUT YOU IN THE CONTEST RIGHT NOW!
If you would like to join the contest send me the private message and i will explain you all! I can put you in when you decide that!
You can trust me, everything it is allright, the only thing is to decide if you want to join or if you don't want to join.
I'm expecting your private message! And i hope that you will decide to join the contest!
If you decide to join the contest, we are going to resolve the first step, joining, and then there are next steps, and as i told you, YOU CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON ME!
Many kind regards.
Captain Mitch
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mr. robville is a register extremes user, so no problem any longer.
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thank's a lot for your offer!, but as Minime said, i already own a copy of SSE ;)
i bought that game a week ago to enter the contest.
<< like you can see in my name, im a registered SSE user.
i do appreciate you like the ship so much and im doing the best to get this ship in the most perfect as possible optimized and layed out to be entered in the contest. so that there can be a lot of details added.
the polygon limit i can work to is 317435 polygons (lengt of the ship times 800 polygons each meter - 396,794M X 800 polygons)
and im now on 162242 polygons including the cabin. that's 155139 polygons left... that's almost twice of what i have now.
edit
i have now finished the model of the corridor aswell:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/corridor-1.jpg)
the red lines mark the boundarys of the corridor, and the blue lines show the staircase that will be added.
more detailed screenshots will be shown once everything is textured.
the stairs will be connected between the sundeck(weather deck) and boatdeck, the deck this room will be located on is deck I right above the starboard 4th lifeboat from aft.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cabinloc.jpg)
stand by for updates.
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Wow your model is awesome :o
I really hope to have this in SSE
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Hello!
I'm sorry i made a confuse...I just wanted to help. :)
I like the ship?? I'M IN LOVE WITH THESE SHIP!
I can't wait the moment till it is in the contest, and till it's added in the game.
I'm so happy to see you are making progress, and i just hope the ship will be ready for the contest, and that you will finish at the time.
I can't wait to see the sundeck!! That is my second favorite place ( after the bridge ), i hope you will create it as much perfect as you created the other rooms and parts... I'm so happy that you are making an high detailed ship, so maybe you will have some space for some deck chairs, some pool bars and other stuff, those are some best effects of a real ocean liner, somehow the Orient Star in the game, look somehow ghostly without those efects on the deck.
Also i can't wait to see the bridge, i hope too, that the bridge will be intersting, and with a lot of comands and rooms, the real bridge of ocean liner.
As i can see from your work, i don't have to vory that my wishes will come true, if you continue to model like these, these model will be great!
Also i have two questions if you know the answers:
1: These ships from contest will be in The Shipyard or in the Add-On?
2: mr. robville what is the total lenght ( L.O.A ) of MS Oceana?
Well, i can't wait anymore... my favorite cruise ship ( Le Boreal ) arrived today at 03:00 PM, and it leaves at 10:00 PM, so i need to go to the port, to see him for the last time!
Keep going, and put your hard work into the game! You got my thumbs up! :2thumbs:
Many kind regards.
Captain Mitch
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thanks!
i hope to get a lot of deckchairs on the sundeck using lowpoly alpha textured deckchairs. it will take up about 10 polygons each deckchair.
General info Oceana:
Length overall: 396.8M
Beam: 50M
Draft: 12.5M
Freeboard: 11.9M
Length between perpendiculars: 352M
Length Waterline: 363M
height between Bridge and waterline: 33.8M
Height overall: 75.6M
Decks: 20
Propulsion: 4 Azipod Screws. 160.000 HP
Bowthrusters: 4
top speed: ~30knots
now going to texture the corridor ;)
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WOW! OH MY GOOD!
396 meters???? 30 Kn?????
Oh my god, i can't wait to operate that ship!! Oh my god!
I was always dreaming to get on a ship like that, that is my wish since i was 3 years old!! ;)
If that ship is in the Ship Simulator, my dreams will come true at least on 70%... it is not real but still it is the high detailed model, and it is a perfect game, in combination it is almost real!!
I can not even imagine these that, to ride to 400 meter ocean liner, with 20 decks and over 3000 passengers.
That will be the real adventure, and the most intersting sail ever!
For one month is my birthday, and these is the present from you and VSTEP if they include these marvelous ship!
I need to earn some money fast, to upgrade my computer, that i can play SSE on high details ( like your ship ) without problem.
Thank you for informations mr.robvill!
Many kind regards.
Capt. Mitch
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thanks!
the corridor is fully finished and textured aswell!
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Cor1.jpg)
Cabin I-20 is opened
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Cor2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Cor8.jpg)
Fire prevention, Real importand:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Cor4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Cor5.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Cor3.jpg)
the exit on the left connects the staircase to the sundeck and boatdeck:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Cor6.jpg)
and last but not least, Divider doors:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Cor7.jpg)
they have can be used to stop smoke from entering the rest of the corridors, but for now they seal off the rest of the corridors. the other ends of the corridors are sealed with a red cord.
Edit
i have also added some fog in the shower, like someone just used it recently. it gives a nice contrast of the luxury inside and the cold outside of the ship.
it's still WIP as the textures can be made a Lot better.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Foam.jpg)
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Great!! I love it!! :2thumbs:
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thanks!
the staircase is now done aswell and fully textured:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Staircase.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Stair2-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Stair1-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Staircase.jpg)
the red dot marks the deck the cabin is on, don't worry about finding the right deck.
decknames will be added on the wall, and the door to the corridor which leads to the cabin is open.
the staircase you see now is only the part which will be walkable and leads from the sundeck to the Boatdeck as announced before. however, the actual staircase would continue going down a few more decks.
polycount staircase: 2192 Polygons
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thats gonna be a long walk
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thats gonna be a long walk
Not really, about the same as the Vermaas or Latitude.
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Looking excellent Rob!
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thanks!
the rest of the staircase is finished now aswell:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Stair4.jpg)
top of the staircase:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Stair5.jpg)
closed decks between:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Stair6.jpg)
Deck I:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Stair7.jpg)
end of the walkable stairs at the Boatdeck:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Stair8.jpg)
as a small reminder, the deck of the cabin is the deck the elevator sort of ''stopped'' as the elevator indicator shows D I (Deck I).
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Hi Rob,
I have to say you are very good with texturing :)
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Wow, you are very fast at molding! And really good at it to!
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Hello all!
As ussual I'M IMPRESED!
You are so fast, and so perfect at modeling! Now since you start to work again, you are faster than a time ;).
I'm so happy to see your work, and to see your update photos, with each photo i am happier more, and i come with a huge wish on the forum to see what have you done!! ;)
These interior is so cool! I always wanted to see a cool interior on the boat, because of that i bought and liked Elbe so much, it had the best interior... but if your ship is included, these will be the ship with the best interior...
I always wanted to explore the ship, and i passed Ocean Star more than 1000 times, and i always enjoyed, and on these ship, i will have double places to walktrough!
I can see that these is going to be my favorite ship, and that i will enjoy it the most!
It is so nice... keep going... these is marvelous! :2thumbs:
Many kind regards!
Capt. Mitch
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Will you have access to the boat deck?
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thanks a lot!
by today i think the final part of the interior will be added (exept for the bridge), the corridor to the Boatdeck.
@freeciv
thanks!
the staircase is now done aswell and fully textured:
IMAGES
the red dot marks the deck the cabin is on, don't worry about finding the right deck.
decknames will be added on the wall, and the door to the corridor which leads to the cabin is open.
the staircase you see now is only the part which will be walkable and leads from the sundeck to the Boatdeck as announced before. however, the actual staircase would continue going down a few more decks.
polycount staircase: 2192 Polygons
;)
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I am definately voting for this ;D
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thanks!
badly enaugh, i wasn't able to finish the interior yesterday as a firealarm caused the entire school to evacuate, and my coat with the keys to my room in it was still inside the building. and it took some time before we could finally enter the building as the alarm was a false one.
so i came home a little late, and i had no time left to finish the interior.
i think i can do a bit of interior today and finish up tomorrow.
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I look forward to more progress Rob.
I am looking forward to seeing some work on the bridge when yo uget around to it ;)
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finally! the last part of the interior is done ;D
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cl1.jpg)
the door to the atrium is closed though.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cl2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cl3.jpg)
this is the entrance to the Boatdeck.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cl4.jpg)
also nameplates have been added inside the staircases. it will be easyer to notice on what deck you are on now.
still the corridor is a little empty as no rooms are attached to the corridor. i think i will place some paintings on the wall that Hudizzle made. he gave me permission of using his paintings.
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Good idea!
It's looking fabulous! I am really hopeing that this vessell could be used in the simulator, as I believe it would become a very popular ship by the players - especially with such a fantastic walkthrough.
One thing though, can we see this in the boat? How about a external shot into the cabin? :)
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working on that right now ;)
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Great stuff - looking forward to it :)
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hmm, the original hull model is too messed up to fit the interior in that easy, so i am going to redo the hull now.
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Blimy, seems like a pretty major job then?
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yes, but i was planning to redo the hull anyway ;)
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Ahh, well at least you can redo the hull and make it better than before! ;D
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great work and looks very very good! cant wait to see more
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i made an improved version of the hull now.
the bulb is more smooth aswell for the hull itself:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/H2-1.jpg)
also the stern has been updated:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/H1-1.jpg)
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Hello all!
Very, very nice! You done a lot... the interior is great, it will probably be the largest interior.
And YES, offcourse these ship will be very popular, it already is, and especialy for me!
These is already my favorite ship!
I hope to see more... ;) Thank you mr.robvill!
Many kind regards!
Capt. Mitch
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thanks!
this morning i finished the Hull texture, and the Hull logo's aswell.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/LG6.jpg)
nameplates added:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/LG1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/LG4.jpg)
Plimsoll mark and Tug markings added:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/LG3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/LG5.jpg)
the symbols on the plimsoll mark mean the following:
L R - Loyds Register (the classification bureau the ship is on)
WNA - Winter north atlantic
FW - Fresh water (no salt)
W - Water
it indicates how deep the ship may be in certain waters.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/LG2.jpg)
also Bowtruster logo's, Bulb Logo and depth indicator added.
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I have to confess, I don't think I have ever actually posted here before... :o
I do apologise about that Mr Robville.
Anyway may I say this is a really impressive model :thumbs:
How do you get the textures so realistic? When I try they always come out fuzzy, yet yours are perfect.
Any way, great model, well done :thumbs:
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Hi Robville
Exellent work :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
rgrds
jomach
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Nice job, but only 4 bowthrusters..? ;)
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i was planning to add 40, but to save polygons i lowered it to 4 bowthrusters ;)
I have to confess, I don't think I have ever actually posted here before... :o
I do apologise about that Mr Robville.
Anyway may I say this is a really impressive model :thumbs:
How do you get the textures so realistic? When I try they always come out fuzzy, yet yours are perfect.
Any way, great model, well done :thumbs:
i used alpha maps for the symbols on the hull, if i would use the hull texture for this task, it would be only a few blurred pixels.
i have done some work on the boatdeck now.
this time i have added some deckchairs:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/DK5.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/DK1-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/DK1.jpg)
the davits have been added with dummy lifeboats, because as i remember, Vstep has a stock model for that.
i used the davits from my poseidon model and did a huge optimizing job. i got rid of all the unnecesairy details.
also the deckchairs are lowpoly and contain only 9 polygons each chair.
this is the entrance to the cabin:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/DK3.jpg)
overall view
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/DK4.jpg)
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looking great :2thumbs:
cant wait for it to be finished
great job
thom
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Hello!
It looks magnificent!
Deck chairs are nice and elegant... the boat deck looks intersting... and i can't evne imagine the sun deck on the top...
Can't wait to see that model in SSE!
Well done, great job! Keep going. ;) :thumbs:
Kind regards.
Capt. Mitch
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Does the model's texture fit the limit?
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You'd think someone with this kinda talent would mess up something so trivial? ;)
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That is very impressive...
I can't even get a few windows looking like good... :-\
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You'd think someone with this kinda talent would mess up something so trivial? ;)
I'm curious to see how he fits it all ;D
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I'm curious to see how he fits it all ;D
Aren't we all... :doh:
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We sure are :P ;D
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that information is clasified :police:
anyway, updates updates updates ;D
railings added, waterway added, transverse strengthenings added, man-overboard-boat platform added, extra row of deckchairs and emergency inflatable Liferafts added:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dks5.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dks4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dks3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dks2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dks1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dks6.jpg)
next: railings on walls, emergency equipment, Decklights, Lifeboat number panels. and some other details.
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that information is clasified :police:
Booo!
Serioulsy she looks great, you sure you don't have a real ship there... :doh:
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Another great job! Very nice... :thumbs:
Every single update is perfect... keep going! :thumbs:
Kind regards.
Captain Mitch
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great news!, the last bit of the boatdeck is finished,
details such as decklights, ashtrays/bins, lifeboat signs, vents, security camera's and emergency equipment are added:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/exp5.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/exp4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/exp3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/exp2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/exp1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/exp6.jpg)
i am still trying to make a nice render with proper lightning, but without vray it is a massive task of placing all the lights correct. and my laptop which has vray installed is low on battery and i left the cable in rotterdam :'(
the reason why all lifeboat signs indicate number 16 is because i don't have the room inside the texture for adding all numbers.
i payed a lot of attention to each object so that it's correctly placed and not sticking through other objects or it would be placed real unlogic (for exaple one of the decklights right in front of a camera) this brings a lot more realism to the ship, as i saw quite a few of these glitches inside extising SSE vessels.
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Truely amazing work Rob. I have to say you really do have a talent there ;)
Good up the good work!
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It's okay with the lifeboat numbers: the Orient Star has 18 of lifeboat No. 2 :doh:
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thanks!
also something real importand i almost forgot, Portholes and hulldoors!
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/wi1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/wi2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/wi3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/wi4.jpg)
the big door at the stern and the one crossing the red part of the hull are Marina doors. there would be bunch of jetski's and motorboats behind it.
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ok, one last update for tonight,
the bowrailing has been added:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow1.jpg)
and a large HAL anchor is on it's place:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow2.jpg)
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today i did some pain in the ass work on the foreships superstructure.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow12.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow5.jpg)
the exterior part of the restaurant WIP
what is that? doorways?
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow6.jpg)
well, why not, let's make those decks walkable aswell
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow7.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow9.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow8.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow10.jpg)
this staircase would have been placed anyway, as it connects the bridge directly to the main deck:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow11.jpg)
also bulkead frames added:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow4.jpg)
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I have to say Rob you do work VERY fast. You really ought to do this for a living :)
Very impressive work ;)
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That is extremely impressive! like Captain Spencer said, you have an amazing talent :2thumbs:
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Wow! You really should do this for a living.
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thanks!
i do want to become a naval architect, that's why im following an education on the STC in rotterdam right now. learning all kinds of stuff involved at building a new ocean liner.
i thought the deck looked a little empty, so i added some deckchairs, tables and other details:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow13.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow15.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow14.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow16.jpg)
tables are exteme low poly just like the deckchairs, i had to keep the polycount low as there are hundreds of these onboard the ship.
i felt like i was playing cruise ship tycoon at this part.
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How many polys do you have left?
At the being of this thread you were making the engine room. Is that going to be included? (I will be surprised if it is)
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i don't think there's enough poly's and textures left for the engine room im affraid. the max. polycount the ship may have is ~300.000 polygons, im currently on 113.867 polygons, and that's including the dummy lifeboats aswell.
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i don't think there's enough poly's and textures left for the engine room im affraid. the max. polycount the ship may have is ~300.000 polygons, im currently on 113.867 polygons, and that's including the dummy lifeboats aswell.
Only 113,867!! Wow! I expected 200,000. You might have enough for an engine room!
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i guess we keep our fingers crossed ;)
EDIT
last update for tonight, ladders are added:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow17.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow20.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow18.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bow19.jpg)
only a fitting railing left.
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I'm so glad you decided to enter the competition in the end!! :2thumbs:
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Rob,
One word of advice for this ship if you're considering adding an engine room...
The most time spent on a ship when playing ship sim is the bridge, so when you're going to create the bridge, make it a little higher poly, as this is the most important section.
Looking fantastic though! :)
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Hello all!
WOW, as ussualy, i'm impresed!
I haven't expected more walkable space, and that what you create in these very short time, is amazing, these is so good... imagine the look on the open sea, or on the beautiful cruise ports like Bora Bora, from the deckchair below the bridge!
Very, very nice! You hit the real target, that is the real design of the cruise ship, and you made it perfect!! So as ussualy, perfect job.
And don't vorey, if you continue like these, i'm seeing you in the magazine "cruise times" and it says ( the best naval architecht in the world ), and you will probably made some designes for the new largest ship of the world fro Royal Caribbean.
Well done! Keep going! :thumbs:
And one suggestions if you will be able to accept it, and if you will have enough polygons.
If you are for it, that is what i think can make these ship so wonderful, and fancy. ;)
A jacuzzi or two ( or small swiming pool ) in front!
Example:
On Disney Magic ( click on the picture for larger ):
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4956/jacuzzyinfront3.png) (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/jacuzzyinfront3.png/)
On Seabourn Legend:
(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1640/jacuzzyinfront.png) (http://img156.imageshack.us/i/jacuzzyinfront.png/)
On your ship:
(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3689/jacuzzyinfront2.png) (http://img219.imageshack.us/i/jacuzzyinfront2.png/)
Well, that is just my suggestion, if you are able to include that or if you want, i think it will be very nice.
It's on you to decide. :thumbs:
Keep going.
Many kind regards.
Capt. Mitch
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Rob,
One word of advice for this ship if you're considering adding an engine room...
The most time spent on a ship when playing ship sim is the bridge, so when you're going to create the bridge, make it a little higher poly, as this is the most important section.
Looking fantastic though! :)
Indeed, unless you have a working lift, I dont really fancy going ALL the way down to the engine room!!
Not very interesting, I will always be on the bridge. :thumbs:
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Well, it would be nice to have an engine room, it is not so important, but it can be used to pretend something is wroing with engines on missions and other...
I also spent almost all the time on the bridge of the Orient Star, but when i'm in the port, i'm pretending like it is a real cruise so i always stay for at least 30 minutes walking on the boat decks...
In that time i like to explore the boat, and walk all around, because of these i like these model so much, it never ends, a 400 meter ships, with full sun deck, boat deck, interior rooms, front part and all other parts...
I'l never end with my exploration, it will be so intersting to walk all around these huge ship.
These 30 minutes in the port, will pass faster than ever! :thumbs:
Many kind regards.
Capt. Mitch
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With regards to the Jazcuzzi,
I wouldn't recommend putting them on the bow, because this is probably the only part of the ship that will move around the most. The rise and fall of the bow on the open sea will mean there won't be any water (or people!) left in the tubs.
Of course if they're off limits while the ship is moving that's not as bad. ;)
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Well, these jacuzzies are for crew accutaly, these is the crew area on the ship, where they can relax if they have time.
So these jacuzzies are used by the proffesionals ( at least i heard like that on the Cruise Ship Diaries ).
That maight be dangerous... but at least 50 % of cruise ships do have the jaccuzies like that ???
I really don't know how they handle the problems you sayed... ???
Kind regards.
Captain. Mitch
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I think quite a few cruise ships as Mitch showed have this feature for crew, I know that the P&O Aurora has a medium sized pool on the bow, I guess they just close it off in bad weather as you said. :)
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Well, i'm not sure... but i know a lot of cruise ships with these function.
Here are some examples & ( if i find pictures ):
Costa Deliziosa:
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1666/jakuzinaprednjojstranik.png) (http://img99.imageshack.us/i/jakuzinaprednjojstranik.png/)
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1666/jakuzinaprednjojstranik.png) (http://img171.imageshack.us/i/jakuzinaprednjojstranik.png/)
Cruise ships with the same design: Costa Luminosa, Costa Mediteranea, Costa Atlantica, Carnival Miracle, Carnival Legend, Carnival Pride, Carnival Spirit ( Ocean/Orient Star class design ), P&O Arcadia, Nieuw Amsterdam, Eurodam, Noordam, Westerdam, Oosterdam, Zuiderdam
Costa Serena ( 100% sure ):
(http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/1666/jakuzinaprednjojstranik.png) (http://img543.imageshack.us/i/jakuzinaprednjojstranik.png/)
Cruise ships with same design: Costa Pacifica , Costa Favolosa.
Costa Fortuna:
(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1666/jakuzinaprednjojstranik.png) (http://img89.imageshack.us/i/jakuzinaprednjojstranik.png/)
Cruise ships with same design: Costa Concordia, Costa Magica, Carnival Splendour, Carnival Liberty, Carnival Freedom, Carnival Valor, Carnival Glory, Carnival Conquest, Carnival Victory, Carnival Triumph, Carnival Destiny.
Seabourn Legend ( 100% sure, you can see in the movie ):
(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1640/jacuzzyinfront.png) (http://img299.imageshack.us/i/jacuzzyinfront.png/)
Cruise ships with the same design: Seabourn Pride, Seabourn Spirit.
Disney Magic:
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4956/jacuzzyinfront3.png) (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/jacuzzyinfront3.png/)
Cruise ships with same design: Disney Wonder.
P&O Aurora:
(http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1666/jakuzinaprednjojstranik.png) (http://img413.imageshack.us/i/jakuzinaprednjojstranik.png/)
MSC Splendida:
(http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/1666/jakuzinaprednjojstranik.png) (http://img243.imageshack.us/i/jakuzinaprednjojstranik.png/)
Cruise ship with same design: MSC Magnifica, MSC Fantasia, MSC Poesia, MSC Orchestra, MSC Musica.
P&O Oceana:
(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1666/jakuzinaprednjojstranik.png) (http://img411.imageshack.us/i/jakuzinaprednjojstranik.png/)
P&O Pacific Jewel:
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1666/jakuzinaprednjojstranik.png) (http://img443.imageshack.us/i/jakuzinaprednjojstranik.png/)
Cruise ships with same design: P&O Pacific Dawn, Ocean Village 2.
Total: 47 cruise ships
But those are the ones what i just remebered, i'm sure there are more of them with these function. ( Only if you want i'l add some more ).
Apology:
I'm so sorry for spaming these wonderful topic with my stupid ides... but i just wanted to show some cruise ships, mr.robvil and other members please accept my apology. I'm sory.
Many kind regards & apologyes.
Captain Mitch
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Hey, the Orient Star and the Carnival Miracle look the same!!
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MSC Magnicica has got it on it, but when I was on it could not figure out for the life of me how to get to it ha :D was actuly funny at one point, got a bit lost thnking i know i can try this way and no it was the back of the restraunt but no other way :D
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Apology:
I'm so sorry for spaming these wonderful topic with my stupid ides... but i just wanted to show some cruise ships, mr.robvil and other members please accept my apology. I'm sory.
Many kind regards & apologyes.
Captain Mitch
I don't think your ideas are stupid.
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Hello!
Thank you freeciv! Thank you for support.
Goodles: Well, it is nice to know that you have been on a MSC Magnifica, that is wonderful ship, i'm dreaming to have a cruise on it... you are so lucky!
Well, you probably couldn't find it because the same reason as i am thinking. That part of ships is just for crew, the relaxing zone for crew where they are spending some time when they can. So the entrance on these section of the ships is on the "crew decks" and to get into that jacuzzi you need to enter the door on wich says with the red letters "for crew members only". ;)
So you are probably not allowed to get there.
But if mr.robvill include that on M/v Oceana, on wich we will be the captains, we will be allowed to go there and enjoy in these jacuzzi. ;)
Hey, if you have some nice photos of MSC Magnifica you can send them on my PM, i'm always interested in cruise ships & cruises! ;)
Many kind regards.
Captain. Mitch
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thanks Mitch!
It is lovely I was on it before it had its naming ceremony and while it was in Southampton it was docked there so didnt go anywhere but had 2 nights on board and sure was lovely
you can see pics of her http://www.flickr.com/photos/bigrossco/sets/72157623525863806/
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Hi guys,
I wasn't saying you were spamming Mitch, or that is was a bad idea. I just though from my own perspective that the ship might not benefit from a pool at the bow.
However you have demonstrated that it is used on other cruise ships, so, I would say that the idea is perfectly valid, providing Mr Robville is prepared to add it.
Anyway, back on topic guys! :)
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Hello.
Captain Spencer, don't feel wrong about, my apology wasn't because of these reason, it is because i know i went to far with these suggestion, and then we all started to talk about, and i made you go out of topic.
Well, that was just my suggestions, mr.robvill is the naval architect, he is the professional, so he will know what to do, so it is on him. :lol:
Anyway, back on topic guys! :)
Agree. :thumbs:
Kind regards.
Captain. Mitch
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good morning everyone :o
did someone order a jacuzzi?
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/jac2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/jac1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/jac3.jpg)
ofcourse it's inevitable to add a windshield aswell. ;)
and on rough seas it is indeed better to lock down the 2 tubs, aswell for the restaurant's terrace.
thanks a lot for your feedback all!
btw, it seems you can walk on orient stars boatdeck, how can you get there?
EDIT
terrace railing added
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/railaa.jpg)
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deckcranes added:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cr1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cr2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cr3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cr4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cr5.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cr6.jpg)
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Hello all!
WOW! Thanks for adding my suggestion ( a jacuzzi ), it looks very nice! I like it! :thumbs:
did someone order a jacuzzi?
:2thumbs: That is a good one! I did, and thanks for completing my wish! :thumbs:
Well you had a question? How to get on a boat deck of Ocean Star ).
Well you can go there, but that is a BUG.
Here are some steps:
1: Go on the back point of Ocean Star.
2: On the edge, where is the fence.
3: Walk & walk on the fence till you fall down.
I need to go now, i'l explain you more details later!
Kind regards.
Capt. Mitch
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thanks!
all final details are added to the bow, i realigned the deckcranes, placed a large spare anchor, added a radar, sidelights and added some frames to the superstructure's balconie.
also the deck has been changed as the part where passengers are not allowed now has bare plating, this distincts the crew area from the passenger area a little better.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/fd7.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/fd5.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/fd4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/fd3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/fd2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/fd1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/fd8.jpg)
bridge perspective:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/fd6.jpg)
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Will she fit in the ports she looks big?
Great model :thumbs:
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shouldn't be any problem, this ship is slightly bigger then QM2, and the QM2 fits into rotterdam port.
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Aha great ;)
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Awesome, I love this ship ;D
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Hello all!
Well, an awesome update again, and again! Thank you mr.robvil for creating a master piece!
I like these update, nice adds, the anchor is very nice, also the other parts! Keep going! :thumbs:
And if you want to take a rest and enjoy in Ship Simulator i created something for you!
How to get on the Ocean Star boat deck by Captain Mitch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G8k7kBpGV0
I hope it will be useful.
Many kind regards.
Captain Mitch
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Lovely model Robville, well done! :2thumbs:
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Will she fit in the ports she looks big?
Great model :thumbs:
shouldn't be any problem, this ship is slightly bigger then QM2, and the QM2 fits into rotterdam port.
Is she taller than the QM2 because she just barley fits under the Verrazanos Narrows bridge in New York Harbor.
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shouldn't be any problem, this ship is slightly bigger then QM2, and the QM2 fits into rotterdam port.
Orient Star drags her keel though getting into Rotterdam in SSE though... :-\
You may need VSTEP to get the dredger out...
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Hello!
freeciv, You can find all the details on the page: 12
Here is the answer on your question:
YES! M/S Oceana is taller than Queen Mary 2.
Queen Mary 2 height owerall: 72 meters
Oceana height owerall: 75.6 meters
So, yes it is, it is 3.6 meter taller.
But you can be calm! :thumbs:
The M/S Oceana WILL pass under Verrazanos Narrows bridge in New York Harbor, so there is no space for panic.
It looks like mr.robvil thought about everything! The Queen Mary 2 was designed with a flatter funnel to pass under the bridge, and has 3.96 meters of clearance under the bridge during high tide. So 3.96 meters, that is 75.96 ( 75.9 ) and M/S Oceana is 75.6 meters high owerall!
So, it will be close, but i think M/S Oceana will pass with 3 centimeters under the bridge... INTERSTING!
So here is the answer on your question, and my opinion... :thumbs:
Thumbs up, and hope it will pass!
Many kind regards.
Capt. Mitch
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Your assumming that V-Step got the bridge clearance correct and you forgot that suspention bridges have a curve to them!!
It'll be close! :o :o
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They have Curves correct, so thatr means that the suspessions are having little weight on them.
I really hope this ship will make it into SSE i think Vstep has already Took Great Pride in your work.
Shes is really starting to remind me of the Fictional 2006 Poseidon i think its the colors and the Bow Superstructure, very nice work i cant wait to see the bridge :thumbs:
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maybe he'll make a retractable funnel, and masts if these go above.
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maybe he'll make a retractable funnel, and masts if these go above.
Maybe.
Mr. Robville will probably tell us tomorrow.
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Seems that "wind shield" also serves the purpose of breakwater ;D
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It looks like it!
However, I'm not very fond of the "window" textures he is using.
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hello all,
the mast of the oceana is pretty high, so i might make it shorter or retractile.
i agree about the windows, the detail is pretty low compared to the rest of the ship, so i made a few changes.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/wind1.jpg)
i changed the texture, and added some 3d framework instead of the flat textured version.
i also might change the window texture to a more hi-res one.
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Hello!
Well, a nice change, it definitly looks much better now, it was OK, but now is perfect, now it looks like on orient Star. Really nice! :thumbs:
Kind regards.
Captain. Mitch
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thanks, also the rest of the windows are done now.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/wind2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/wind3.jpg)
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Sorry to criticize again but...
The port holes are disproportional to the rest of the ship. They appear to be the same size as a person.
P.S love the new window texture!
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the portholes are meant to be big, but there were too huge indeed, so i scaled them down.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/ph.jpg)
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the superstructure of the aft balcony decks is done now, also a staircase has been fitted inside:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aft1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aft2-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aft3-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aft4-1.jpg)
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Hello!
As ussualy, another great update! :thumbs:
That is a big progress now... and it looks great!
Happy to see a good progress!!
Kind regards!
Captain. Mitch
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Hm, seems odd to me to have a slanted box for a back compared with the rest of the ship....
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a ''boxed'' stern seemed to fit for this ship because of the superstructure that's pretty big.
a round shape for the stern would mess up the design pretty well.
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Hi Rob,
If there was to be a critism of the stern, I would say it's a little too slanted. Personally I would not slope the stern quite to much :)
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a ''boxed'' stern seemed to fit for this ship because of the superstructure that's pretty big.
a round shape for the stern would mess up the design pretty well.
I like it how it is :)
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ok i made a slight curve inside the superstructure, i hope this is a little better ;)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftr1.jpg)
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finally the stern is done! ;D
all details are added just like the foreship.
plus also a staircase which can bring you to any deck.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftr2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftr3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftr11.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftr12.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftr13.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftr8.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftr7.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftr4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftr5.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftr6.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftr9.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftr10.jpg)
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Hi Rob,
This looks amazing, you really do have a fantastic model here and I think it could be a serious contender :)
Have you done any work on the bridge? I am concerned that you are putting too many details on the rest of the ship and leave the bridge lacking because of the poly count.
Which remind me, what IS the poly count so far ;D
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ah i knew i forgot to mention something, the polycount is 121.939 polygons
and the limit is ~300.000 polygonsthat's 178.061 polygons left for the balconies, sundeck and bridge.
balconies shouldn't take up much polygons, and the sundeck has a limit of 100.000 max. to me, leaving +- 70.000 polygons for the bridge.
i think im still fine ;)
current schedule:
hull DONE
bridge WIP
interior DONE
bow DONE
stern DONE
midsection WIP
boatdeck DONE
sundeck WIP
~65%
to do list as followed:
Balconies
Bridge
Sundeck.
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How do you get such a detailed model with such a low poly count :o
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optimizing, optimizing and even more optimizing. ;)
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hehe
It is a truley masterful model
you stick a curve into SU though and the polycount shoots through the roof...
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Maby Regina Baltica coudl be good to model in SU she is like a box :doh:
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Hello all!
As usualy AMAZING UPDATE! But i think, these is one of the best!
Stern looks much, much more better now ( with curve ), and with all those deatiles, like chairs, deckchairs and other, it looks absolutly amazing. Well, maybe the some bar is missing, but it would be better to leave some polygons for a bar on the sun deck... so that is not souch a problem.
I still can't wait to see the sun deck with pool and playgrounds, "aquagans" and other parts on sun deck, and also for the bridge.
These model is in one word AMAZING!
Keep going with great updates! :2thumbs:
Many kind regards.
Captain Mitch
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thanks!
first row of balconies done, i hope i did a good job of not letting the cabin stand out too much from the rest.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cabs2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cabs1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cabs4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cabs3.jpg)
also the cabin's balconie has been changed, it's wider now, the deckchairs are the correct size, and the deck texture has been changed to the one used on all decks.
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Hi Rob,
The cabin looks great! Might I suggest that the balcony doors remain open? Might be nice to allow a walkthrough onto the balcony.
However, that is something for a later date perhaps :)
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It would be nice to walk on the balcony.
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I do hope to see this in-game ;D
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thanks!
if the doors can be animated they will be in a closed position untill you approach the door. otherwise if doors can't be animated it will remain open ;)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cabs5.jpg)
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good news everyone, all balconies are placed now!
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cabs13.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cabs6.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cabs7.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cabs8.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cabs9.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cabs10.jpg)
find the detailed cabin ;D
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cabs11.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/cabs12.jpg)
polycount a little higher then i expected, the ship now has 201637 polygons, that's
115803 polys left for the sundeck and bridge.
in case i might get into trouble with polygons i know the neccesairy things to do to get a lower polycount.
next: Bridge, yay! ;D
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ok first thing to change at the bridge as we all agree, the size
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/br1.jpg)
the bridge is a lot flatter now, also the desks will be much less then shown before.
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Hello all!
;D It is Saturday, a wonderfull sunny day, and mr.robvill is working as a machine!
You are doing a HUGE, HUGE progress! I really like the ship! It is so amazing!
Now the ship got his shape, and it is very, very nice!
Well, i'm glad to here that you have a plan how to optimize more if you run out of polygons, because i hope the sun deck and the bridge will be nice...
Keep going, we are waiting for news ussualy! WELL DONE!
Kind regards!
Capt. Mitch
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well, it's pouring out here.
i finished the first part of the bridge: the walls, windows, floor, window wipers, bridge wings, and a handrail.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/br2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/br3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/br4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/br5.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/br6.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/br7.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/br8.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/br9.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/br10.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/br11.jpg)
also the paintings in the cabin have been replaced by ones made by Hudizzle, he gave me permission to use these for the ship. as the images i used were probably copyright protected.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/hudpics1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/hudpics2.jpg)
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She looks great she will be intresting to sail :thumbs:
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You have paintings in you cabin... PAINTNGS! How do you do it :o
I made a chair and it had to have a something like a 10x3 brown rectangle...
And it fits onto a 2048 pixel square...?
:o
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just fit all your textures in the main texture, for example the image i have shown before:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Tex6-1.jpg)
the paintings do not take up much space.
and thanks v.h94 ;D
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How you going to fit the side of the boat texture onto that too?
My problem is to scale the textures down to fit the hull at the same scale - means my deck height is about 10 pixels 0 - thus any details for things like paintings is lost...
but we are going off topic, and it is a brilliant model :thumbs:
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We can have 3 texture maps FM :)
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I thought it was 1 texture map, and two repeating units...
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love the latest update lokoing even better! i ould PAY to downloada this ship for SSE
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thanks!
i finished the bridge desks, steering wheel, and captain seats:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/brr5.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/brr1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/brr2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/brr3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/brr4.jpg)
the bridge area was still too wide so i pulled the walls a little more to the front.
a lot of details still to be added. exept for the controlls, Vstep has stock models for that.
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i made a few quick renders showing the Oceana as if she would be in the water (water from mars in this case)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/OC3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/OC1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/OC2.jpg)
i also did a small comparison between the old model and the current one, well spot the diffrence:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/comp6.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/comp5.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/comp4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/comp3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/comp2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/comp1.jpg)
tomorrow i get back to rotterdam where the adapter from my laptop is, once my laptop is recharched and on the powergrid. i can finally make some nice Vray Renders. which is much better then these plain default renders.
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Old-and-new side-by-side renders are always fascinating! ;D You should do another one when you're done!
She looks spectacular, Mr. Robville. :)
How about a screenshot from the bridge looking aft?
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Absolutely brilliant :thumbs:
Are you going to make a small captains cabin? :lol:
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im not planning to make one yet, as i think im pretty close to the polygon limit once the bridge and sundeck are done :D
How about a screenshot from the bridge looking aft?
can be found at the top of this page ;)
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can be found at the top of this page ;)
Oops! Missed that one! :doh:
I'm sure you'll get quite a few votes for this, and for good reason! And do you have plans for modelling the navigation light structures?
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Excellent work Rob, you seem to have amazed me once again :)
Looking forward to some further screenshots of the bridge.
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wow wow wow rob a great update and looking very very goodI think you should add some "hidden" parts on the ship like vstep have done this time round with alot of the ships to make it fun for people to find them :thumbs:
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Hello all!
Well these new shots are amazing.
From these photos we can see how big progress mr.robvill done. It is so nice to see these ship on water, it looks amazing, and when the sun deck edited arrives, it will be excelent!
Also the bridge looks very nice, it reminds me on the Voyager's bridge...
And i agree, if you will have some more polygons, you can create some hiden part ( some restoraount, bar or something ), what we wil not know, so we can search these.
But there is already a huge interior, so we will have a planty to see, so these is not nesecary, but if you have some polygons more... why not?
Can't wait to see shots from sun deck... :thumbs:
Well done once again!!
Kind regards.
Captain. Mitch
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Also the bridge looks very nice, it reminds me on the Voyager's bridge...
Do you mean Voyager as in the 'Starship Voyager'? :D
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thanks you all like it!
i have done some work on the bridge:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/brr12.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/brr6.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/brr7.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/brr8.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/brr9.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/brr10.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/brr11.jpg)
some seats have been added, some of them on a rail. fire prevention is added, lights, doors added, and i deleted the steering wheel as i just realized that azipod propelled ship's don't have a traditional steering wheel.
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but doesnt the QM2 have a wheel?
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WOOT WOOT! :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
I see a winner for a creation contest! And its MR Robville :o :D
THese is gonna be a new marvelous,powerfull,luxury enourmes vessel for SSE
SSE is gonna get atleast 15% more extreme
Vstep will get more money and Costumers (players included)
Mr Robville.
How do you do it? You got talent with modeling this, and i mean every word of it :thumbs:
The Oceana is bigger then the QM2 and oasis of the seas.
It will be the best vessel in SSE. Who knowes,Exploring a whole new ship,cabins,and hallways and outside decks :D
This ship can carry more then 5000 passangers..
Hoo Hoo!! And soo scary scary! if this ship is trouble you are responsible for all those lives and everything inside included.
Why do we need this ship?
This is an ocean liner, If we cant have titanic back, we will take another luxury enormes vessel for SSE.
This vessel is gonna be a challange too berth or sail in a port without tugs.
It has e perfect speed wich should be 20 knots and higher.
Thanks too the azipods :thumbs:
How can we use this vessel?
We can use this ship too make a word wide trip :thumbs:
From very cold antartics too very nice bora bora.
That included deploying a life boat and bringing the passangers too the shore.
After that had back too the oceana,hull up anchor and set sail.
MR Robville (in dutch)
Ik wens je veel succes met dit prachtig schip.
Doe je best want ik weet dat je het kan, Je hebt een prachtig model hier for the creation contest :thumbs:
En ik zie al dat je zal winnen :)
Succes ..
People if MR Robville wins!
I garentee we get more players too SSE.
The Oceana is gonna be soo much fun and exitement too play..
I hope too see the oceana later in real too, She would be in creation when its gonna be time too retire the QM2
Kind Regards
Oceandream
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Hello all!
Does somebody know when we can expect these ship fro SSE?
I'l be the one of the customers, and in that i'm sure 100% percent. And if i hear that ship is not going to be included, i think i'm going to scream for 3 days, and then i'l go crazy!!
It is marvelous... now we just need to wait including in SSE, and i'm sure that will happen!
Do you mean Voyager as in the 'Starship Voyager'? :D
No, i mean the "Voyager Of The Seas". I have just watched about him on a television, it is a nice ship, and it has a very nice bridge, but it is not better than bridge on M/S Oceana. Oh can't wait to be on it... :thumbs:
Kind regards!
Capt. Mitch
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Hello all!
Does somebody know when we can expect these ship fro SSE?
1. Contest Start Date October 1st, 2010
2. Contest Entry closure December 1st, 2010
3. Finished Model Submission Deadline January 10th, 2011
4. Selection Round 1 January 11th - January 17th, 2011
5. Selection Round 2 January 17th – January 31st, 2011
6. Final Selection Round February 1st – February 9th, 2011
7. Prize winners announcement February 10th, 2011
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VirtualSkipper thank you for informations very much, i appreciate that!
Well it is a long time, but for souch a master piece, it is worth to wait, and mr.rbovill will have the time to work on details...
Thank you once again.
Many kind regards.
Capt. Mitch
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Your welcome Captain Mitch :)
Btw MrRobville, what are the dimensions of the ship?
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General info Oceana:
Length overall: 396.8M
Beam: 50M
Draft: 12.5M
Freeboard: 11.9M
Length between perpendiculars: 352M
Length Waterline: 363M
height between Bridge and waterline: 33.8M
Height overall: 75.6M
Decks: 20
Propulsion: 4 Azipod Screws. 160.000 HP
Bowthrusters: 4
top speed: ~30knots
;)
thanks a lot you like it.
my computer is still detached, tomorrow i can install everything again and show the bridge i finished tonight.
i can already tell, closets have been added, tv screens showing general arrangement plans of the ship.
a sitting room at the starboard side. a blueprint on one of the desks. and much more other details.
i think the only thing i need to add is a bigger light above a desk and maybe some other minor details i didn't come up with today.
updates tomorrow.
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I deleted the steering wheel as i just realized that azipod propelled ship's don't have a traditional steering wheel.
The Orient Star has a steering wheel on her bridge.
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So does the QM2 :)
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Haha, would this thing fit in any of the ports in SSE? I run aground often enough with the Orient Star, I can only imagine the headaches this beast would give me ::)
Well, I guess the bright side is that ocean travel time is greatly reduced. The ship's so big that her bow will reach her destination hours before her stern does :doh:
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''Oceana mission - Walk from southampton to new york as the ship moves 1 meter'' maybe :D
i just installed my computer again, and i took some screenshots of the finished bridge.
i added 2 chartholders on the wall, and a bigger lamp above the chart table.
also because you guys noticed, i readded the steering wheel:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/don15.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/don13-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/don12-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/don14-1.jpg)
homage to Hudizzle, as he is a great help to my titanic project and i may use his paintings:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/don10-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/don11-1.jpg)
officers lounge:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/don8-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/don9-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/don6-3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/don7-3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/don4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/don5.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/don2-3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/don3-3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/don1-3.jpg)
bridge - Done!
only thing left: Sundeck.
current polycount: 227198
90242 polygons left for the sundeck. should be enaugh ;)
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Very very nice indeed..
What is the length and speed etc etc of this ship?
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thanks!
look at the top of the page ;)
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WOW longer than vermass ... Should be a nice challange
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Yes it is.
yeees it will be a marvelous challange with the oceana :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
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thanks!
i did some work on the sundeck, both decks are added, balconie railing added, new logo added and one of the staircases being built:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/sun4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/sun3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/sun2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/sun1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/sun5.jpg)
still though i want to change the entrance to the staircase to a bit more grand one instead of a small ''backdoor'' like entrance.
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Incredible! ;D
The entrance bit is a good idea. Maybe change the stairs on the aft section of the boat deck as well?
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thanks!
i think this serves the purpose a little better:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dk12.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dk10.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dk11-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dk6-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dk5-2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dk4-2.jpg)
also the staircases are finished:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dk7-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dk9.jpg)
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WOOW!
I like it! :thumbs:
And it looks much better now... i like that the round staircase... they look much better!
Very nice prgoress...
Kind regards!
Captain Mitch
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thanks!
funnel and ''wing'' glass structure added.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dk13.jpg)
i optimized the ''wings'' from over 14.000 polygons to just a bit above 6000.
i also changed a little of the funnel's look, as i deleted the ''wind guider'' and added a detail stripe instead.
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My opinion is that these funnel is better...
The first one was ncie too, but it was almsot the same as Carnival's ( Ocean Star ). But these one is new and it's nice...
I like ti, nice progres...
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I don't know about the competition... But have VSTEP hired you yet?!! :doh:
Loving the bridge, pure talent there sir.
Amazing. :)
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Just WOW!
Def. the most beautifull possible sse ship i've ever seen. :2thumbs:
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thanks a lot!
last update for tonight, the railings are added on the ship's side and some supports between the sundeck and pooldeck.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dk16.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dk15.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dk14.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dk17.jpg)
a list of things left to do:
decklights
fire prevention
pool
deckchairs
tables
deckgames
running court
antenna
flags
cable with lightbulbs between forepeak, antenna and funnel.
bar
restaurant are above bridge
and any other detail that will come to my mind.
maybe i will add a minigolf course and a climbing wall aswell if i have enaugh polygons left.
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Zip Line, or a Surf Machine like Flow Rider
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i can add that to the optional list thanks!
im currently making a backup of my PC as the hard drive was making some weird sounds which i remember it could mean the HDD can die any moment. so it takes a few hours to get everything on a portable HDD. the oceana is already backed up in case you might wonder ;)
so if my computer decides to explode or something i still have all my data and i can continue working on my laptop as all the files will be placed there aswell.
i think i can continue modelling somewhere tonight if everything is coöperating.
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That doesn't sound good - At least the Oceana is backed up :thumbs:
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ok enough backing up for now, i have saved all projects and 3d files i ever made so im safe now.
above that, the HDD stopped making the noise ;D
ok let's continue modelling!
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What is the purpose of the desk in front of the "grand" staircase?
Also, how is the idea of elevators nearby to the stairs? ;)
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there are elevators inside the staircase, however you can't use them
see:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Stair5.jpg)
;)
im still deciding what to do with the desk, shall i make a reception desk of it or shall i make a bar of it?
i have also done a little work on the ship
i added the basic structure above the bridge:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bri1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bri3.jpg)
and extended the railing along the enclosed part:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bri2.jpg)
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This ship! It will murder all of our computers! :doh: ;D
She's a grand vessel, Mr. Robville.
The restaraunt above the bridge sounds rather unique to me.
As for the desk, it looks like it could be a great reception desk!
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Oh she's not that big then.. :P
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Its still amazing :2thumbs:
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thanks ;D
i have done some work at the structure above the bridge, i finished the restaurant walls/windows, added the radars, and the antenna:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bri4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bri5.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bri6.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bri7.jpg)
i read that some people like to climb into masts, so this antenna will be able to climb in:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bri8.jpg)
the door will teleport you to the roof, and from the roof you can climb the stairs to the top.
the antenna still needs a lot of more details such as lights, horns ect.
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the antenna seems finished for now, it's possible i missed a few details. i added the navigation lights, a bunch of antenna's, port and starboard lights, horns and some flags (for the dutch people, don't ask me why a flag of Wamel is added ;))
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/mast8.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/mast2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/mast7.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/mast6.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/mast5.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/mast4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/mast3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/mast1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/mast9.jpg)
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :o :o :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :D :D
Perfect!! :thumbs:
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thanks!
cable with lightbulbs added aswell:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bulbs1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bulbs2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bulbs3.jpg)
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:o :o :o :D ;D :2thumbs:
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Are you certain you can teleport in walkthrough? And can the mast clear the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge? And do you think VSTEP might allow those flags to wave with the wind? Just wondering ;)
Anyway, she looks great! Can her navigation lights fit all light configurations currently offered in SSE?
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i know the teleport function worked in SS08, if it doesn't in SSE i will make a ladder. i read you could climb a mast on a ship so i think ladders will work.
the mast is shortened by a few meters, the ship already fit below the bridge by just a meter, so now it will be able to fit under.
the mast's layout is practicaly the same to the Qm2 so SSE must be able to offer the correct configurations.
i am asking about the flags, if they can't be animated i will make them static.
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I thought the mast looked smaller ;D
I rather thought the old one looked too big, anyway. Good to hear ;D
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This ship! It will murder all of our computers! :doh: ;D
She's a grand vessel, Mr. Robville.
The restaraunt above the bridge sounds rather unique to me.
As for the desk, it looks like it could be a great reception desk!
:evil: lolz! unless he gets disqualified for useing more than 3000 vertices per meter :doh:
And texture overload, but the new funnel is a succes! The first one really did not fit this beautifull ship.
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i decided to make some controll panels with buttons on it and such, it makes the bridge look a little more interesting instead of having the ship's controlls itself alone.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/pans1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/pans2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/deskn1.jpg)
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I must say it's looking incredibly nice in the bridge now :2thumbs:
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What's a Ship Simulator ship without extra controls that don't do anything? :doh: Even Titanic has all of her telegraphs, with 3 that don't do squat in-game ;D
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hehe ;D
as i am working on my laptop, it's very hard to do any big progress on the ship so i decided make something little else:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/kitch3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/kitch2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/kitch1.jpg)
a bar for the officers lounge.
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Looking good...
Are you sure its not too poly heavy - my Channel Queen is a empty shell and it is way too heavy :-\
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optimizing will surprise you how much polygons you can safe.
a small example, cilinder objects don't need 32 segments for railings and objects smaller then a meter. instead use 5 or less rotation segments for this job.
also polygons that will never be seen are useless and take up unncecesairy cpu power. if you delete any polygon that sticks into a wall for example or the bottom of a table which the POV of the camera will never show. you can save tons of polygons with that.
there are lots and lots of more tricks for optimizing, badly enaugh GSU is not a #1 tool for optimized models.
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there are lots and lots of more tricks for optimizing, badly enaugh GSU is not a #1 tool for optimized models.
I think SU is my problem - my railings are all square, and I try not too use many circles/curves.
I have already gone over every unwanted polygon
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Alright, now I'm feeling the need to ask if any real ship has an officer's lounge, with bar, in the bridge.
I don't think I'd want any drunk officers that close to the controls :doh:
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They do!
http://www.cruisereviews.com/images/mega/TemptressPicturew/Bridge.jpg :doh:
But normally are separated by a curtain or something.
And Mr.Robville, will you be adding any tv screens from the ceiling?
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Well, let's make sure the bar doesn't overly obstruct movement to the wing in case of an emergency ;)
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Looking good...
Are you sure its not too poly heavy - my Channel Queen is a empty shell and it is way too heavy :-\
You can keep down the railings and still have them detailed in SU :) A lot is posible in SU I have made some models for MSTS and they can't be many polys, if you build the right way you can make it :) Like my superseacat I don't eaven have 1000polys and I have finnised the hull :)
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ok, time for some updates!
i have added some ramps and stairs which connect the pool deck to the sundeck and the top deck.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/ramp12.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/ramp5.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/ramp4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/ramp3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/ramp2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/ramp1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/ramp6.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/ramp10.jpg)
made sure nothing was glitchy
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/ramp9.jpg)
also i don't remember if i have showed earlyer, but a fog bell is added:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/ramp8.jpg)
railing on top deck added aswell:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/ramp7.jpg)
and i added some extra bars on the sundeck staircase railings.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/ramp11.jpg)
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May I suggest to make that ramp to a FlowRider, Mr robville :angel:
Like RCCL has them:
(http://www.cruiseincentiveagency.com/images/07flowrider_surfing.jpg)
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a flowrider is planned for a diffrent location, if i have enaugh polygons ;)
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it`s a great project i can`t wait for another pictures!!! keep it up :2thumbs: :captain:
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EXTRA UPDATE!
I like it!! :2thumbs:
The flowrider would be an extremly great object on the ship, let's hope there will be enough polys.
Kepp going!
Kind regards!
Capt. Mitch
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ok ok i will make one... ::)
nah just kidding, here it is ;)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/flow1.jpg)
if it doesn't look complete yet, or something is missing, let me know. i made this one from scratch. ;D
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ok ok i will make one... ::)
nah just kidding, here it is ;)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/flow1.jpg)
if it doesn't look complete yet, or something is missing, let me know. i made this one from scratch. ;D
Its missing something vital I think...
Can you guess what it is yet...
Clue: H2O
:doh:
Looks really good though :thumbs:
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h2o?! what is that?! ;)
nah, the flowrider is just not in use right now. but i think i can make a static water texture using the alpha map.
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hehe
Looks good though :thumbs:
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ok i made something that's supposed to be water, but what's currently just a bunch of lines.
my photoshop talent is not that great you know so this texture is very likely to be changed some day.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/flow2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/flow3.jpg)
it looks a little sketchy :D
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this is looking 500 times better then my four engine freighter on sketchup
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do you have any screenshots somewhere?
maybe i can figure something out something nice you can add making your vessel unique aswell. ;)
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finally! halelujah!! ;D
all railings of the ship are done now!
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftss4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftss5.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftss6.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftss2-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftss1-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftss3-1.jpg)
as the top decks are quite a big part of the ship and im halfway done of making them i decided to add some 5% to the completion bar.
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pool WIP, still a lot of things to add like showers, ladders, railings....( :'(), and other small details.
if there's some room left there will be a waterslide added.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/P5.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/P1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/P2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/P3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/P4.jpg)
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Hehe that sure looks like a nice place the captain can chill whilst in bora bora :evil:
Good work! :2thumbs:
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thanks!
more details added:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/p6.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/p8.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/p7.jpg)
stairs and ladders, railings, and very importand! pool information! ;)
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Very impressive work mr robville, the detail is wonderful :2thumbs:
Great work Sir, I love it! :thumbs:
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thanks!
and last but not least:
the showers
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/P9.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/P10.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/P11.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/P12.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/P13.jpg)
also for some stupid reason, my PC decided to delete the alpha texture i made and change it for a empty black image.... thank god i made the backup to my laptop. but now i lost the flowrider water texture.
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Do they have showers?
The Aurora didn't that I saw...
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some cruiseships have, others not, QM2 and norwegian Epic do have showers.
also the orient star has them, but it's pool is a exact replica of QM2's one on the aft.
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Ahh OK :thumbs:
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ok last update for tonight, lampposts and deckgames! ;D
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/L4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/L3.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/L2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/L1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/L5.jpg)
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It's another cruise ship. :sleepy:
We need something different!
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It's another cruise ship. :sleepy:
We need something different!
Hrmmm... Mr. Robville, is this excellent ship a cruise ship or an ocean liner?
Casey13: This ship is infinitely superior to the Orient Star.
No offence to the OS' creators!
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Another Cruise Ship?
Theres only one other Cruise Ship in the game :P
And look at the topic name, "Fictional Oceanliner MS Oceana" :thumbs:
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Another Cruise Ship?
Theres only one other Cruise Ship in the game :P
And look at the topic name, "Fictional Oceanliner MS Oceana" :thumbs:
Oh whatever. I am just saying that I don't want a large vessel, because I have a slow-ish computer.
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Oh whatever. I am just saying that I don't want a large vessel, because I have a slow-ish computer.
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right.. :D
it's indeed an Oceanliner. not a cruiseship. ;)
the poll says cruiseliner though, but that's because the project was first intended to be a cruiseliner.
don't worry Casey, if your computer can handle SSE, it can handle the Oceana, because i stay within modelling limits for the game.
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Oh whatever. I am just saying that I don't want a large vessel, because I have a slow-ish computer.
I detect a note of sarcasm in your message Casey. Just because YOU don't like larger vessels, it doesn't mean to say everyone else doesn't like them too.
The game caters for all kinds of people whether they like small tugs or large ocean liners. Ohh and just before you ask, my computer runs slow too, so we're both in the same boat! :)
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indeed,
this morning i made some new progress, the ship is now real close to completion!
a bar has been added, all deckchairs and tables, a running court, aft pool, and some doors and windows on the walls.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/crs5-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/crs1-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/crs2-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/crs3-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/crs4-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/crs10-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/crs7-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/crs8-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/crs9-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/crs6-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/crs11.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/crs13-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/crs12-1.jpg)
current polycount:
303474 polygons
polygons left:
13966
i am affraid i can't add any waterslides anymore as this will ruin the ship's appearance.
i do plan to make a stage at the aft pool area. and maybe some other details.
as far as the ship itself concerns. consider it Done ;D
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hey, nice model!
how's the ship gonna be controlled normal or azimuth?
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azimuth
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:'(cant control azimuth....
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so can't i.
luckely this ship has a steering wheel instead of those strange controlls.
which makes the ship much easyer to controll.
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Firstly, I must say it's looking spectacular!
Also, if its got a normal steering wheel, how is it going to be Azimuth ???
Isn't that sort of impossible lol, there would then be no need for azimuth :doh:
Sorry if I'm wrong! :lol:
K. Regards
Matthew
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Could you make a/some stair(s) which leads to the bow deck? :)
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so can't i.
luckely this ship has a steering wheel instead of those strange controlls.
which makes the ship much easyer to controll.
yay!
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Could you make a/some stair(s) which leads to the bow deck? :)
that's the staircase from the bridge, this image shows all walkable areas onboard the ship:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/lines.jpg)
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great news guys, some final modifications made and now the ship is complete!
dancefloor added and disco lights:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dance1.jpg)
and a stage with speakers and lights:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/dance2.jpg)
if i feel lucky im going to add some more details to the stage. ;)
+-2 weeks of modelling the ship, 305629 polygons, an interior, bridge, sundeck, boatdeck, aft and bow sections and much more.
in case i might come up with some other small modifications i will make them, but officialy, this ship is done now!
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/SH2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/SH1.jpg)
i will make some nice vray renders, and make a topic at the CCC board so people know about this entry to the CCC.
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WOW thats really impressive :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
200.000/10 ;D
Love it.
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Congratulations, looks stunning! :2thumbs:
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Looks great - fantastic work Mr Robville - Well Done :thumbs:
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congrats
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Hi robville
Very impressed :2thumbs: famous ships and vey good work, I wish you suc6 with the contest ;D :2thumbs: :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
rgrds
jomach
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thanks!
badly enaugh i can't make some nice vray renders because nowhere on the PLANET seems to be a tutorial which explains how to use alpha channel in vray. nowhere.
the only one i constantly get linked to is one of kraphik3d, but that link doesn't work.
if anyone knows a tutorial that works on how to use vray, feel free to let me know.
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Hello all!
WOOOOW! I haven't been here for 2 days, and the whole ship is done??? Damn you'r fast!!! :2thumbs:
THE SHIP LOOKS APBSOLUTLY AMAZING!! I CAN'T STOP WATCHING THE PICTURES OF THE SHIP!
The sun & the pool deck looks impresive! It is so nice, and rich ( full of things ) what makes it look much, much better!
I like all the things on the ship! I can see, that will be MY FAVORITE SHIP! I'l operate these ship every day in SSE! ;D
WELL DONE mr.robvill! Amazing job! :2thumbs:
Well, if there are some polys left and you are watching for some ides for details, i may have some if you are for.
1: The Rock Climbing area.
(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/8096/updatesformvoceana.jpg) (http://img838.imageshack.us/i/updatesformvoceana.jpg/)
And on your ship it can be set somewhere around here:
(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/1465/ideasforupdatesofmvocea.png) (http://img828.imageshack.us/i/ideasforupdatesofmvocea.png/)
And also i have an IMPORTANT question ( at least for me ).
WHAT ABOUT LIGHTS??
That is the thing what really dissapoints me in all Ship Simulator versions, there were some updates for Ship Simulator 2008 by some members like TJK, and in Ship Simulator Extremes there are options for lights in each cases, but an luxury, modern cruise ship like Orient Star in night in ocean looks like a cruise ship from hell... it's scary!!
(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4789/cruiseshipinnight.jpg) (http://img109.imageshack.us/i/cruiseshipinnight.jpg/)
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4707/cruiseshipdecksinnight.jpg) (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/cruiseshipdecksinnight.jpg/)
I hope it will look like these some day. :'(
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(speechless)
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thanks! ;D
well, i added all the models of lightposts, wallights ect. it's up to vstep to make all lights shine in it's full glory, i hope that they will make some light effects aswell!
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Nice one Mr Robville! :2thumbs: :2thumbs:
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Congratulations for the big work done.
But, among this ocean of compliments Mr Robville, would you accept some observations from a nit picker?
Dom.
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Thanks!
i think i could use some help for detecting problems. i did some work myself, i converted the ship for virtual sailor
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Vs2010-11-0421-47-05-39.jpg)
(no im not going to release it for VS!) and flew with the camera trough the ship, i detected a lot of small glitches that were invisible for the 3d tool, some of them:
wall-ceiling connection not good
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Vs2010-11-0420-49-02-60.jpg)
windshield-deck connection not good
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Vs2010-11-0420-49-42-95.jpg)
beam-ceiling connection not good
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Vs2010-11-0420-51-53-09.jpg)
gap between interior & exterior
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Vs2010-11-0420-53-07-50.jpg)
exterior ceiling sticking trough
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Vs2010-11-0420-57-43-26.jpg)
bar reversed:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Vs2010-11-0420-59-17-78.jpg)
and some more.
let me optimize the model so i can send it to you, to you only.
what filetype must it be?
i also fixed the alpha map issue, so im going to make some nice renders now.
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I detect a note of sarcasm in your message Casey. Just because YOU don't like larger vessels, it doesn't mean to say everyone else doesn't like them too.
The game caters for all kinds of people whether they like small tugs or large ocean liners. Ohh and just before you ask, my computer runs slow too, so we're both in the same boat! :)
Well, true. Can't really argue with fairness.
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Thanks!
i think i could use some help for detecting problems. i did some work myself, i converted the ship for virtual sailor...
let me optimize the model so i can send it to you, to you only.
what filetype must it be?
Thanks for the reply and I'm honoured you think about sending the model to me. I'll then be glad to do an extensive (and long) beta testing process in order to track some defaults like the ones you've just discovered in your above screenshots (If I remember well, I 've seen another one in vertical frames of some windows not connecting properly to the ceiling in one of your previous screenshots a few pages ago I think).
But for now, I'd like to put aside the pure modeling/texturing aspect of the model and in my previous post, I had in mind to concentrate on the design of the ship itslef.
But first, now you've completed it, I'd like to send again my congatulations to you. It is quite an achievement to build such a model and I value the work involved for the details there.
At the risk of being hated by all the admirers here, I've a few observations to put here. From your above post, it seems you've understood it is meant to be constructive observations, so don't be impressed by sometimes the direct tone of my words.
For a change, I won't really comment on the quality of the modeling and texturing themselves now (we'll see later when you'll send me the model from which I'd help you finding flaws), but rather on some architectural and technical issues with your model (since you said becoming a naval architecte is one of your objectives). It is my technical background, years to study ships (and a few to sail them) and a dose of common sense that speaks there.
- First, the "glass wings":
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/crs8-1.jpg)
Please tell me how these glasses are held together? Can you imagine the vibrations on the top of these high, large and thin glass surfaces? Believe me, a ship vibrates quite a lot, even with the smoothest machinery and glasses in the middle or on the top of these surfaces have virtually no chance to survive without breaking. The vibrations on the top of these glass wings were the amplitude is the biggest would be enormous and unsustainable. Besides, the structure of a ship works a lot and the deformations (and dilatation) there will break your numerous glasses. On top of that, it would be a nightmare of maintainance and cost when some glasses break because they're nearly all different and you can't really have a standard stock of them.
I think the above is a case where the aesthetic is too much prominent, far more than the practicality and feasibility (actually I don't aesthetically like them, but that's another story and I respect your tastes).
- Another part where the aesthetic is done to the detriment of practicallity and cost is the eccessive slanting of the aft decks. You lose too much space (more than a row of deckchairs or tables) there and, even if it's a fantasy design, you must keep practicality (and somewhat cost and revenue makers) in the picture if you want your design to be more credible.
- I would relocate the two aft little mast on the highest deck (or near the highest) instead of the second one, in order to be able to deploy lighting bulbs lines or wires without danger for the passengers on these aft decks. Remember, on a ship, even a large one, everything move and vibrate and everything has to be able to sustain dynamic contrainsts, as much as possible and flexible objects like bulb lines are to be kept as far from passengers areas as possible.
- The radar on the top of your main mast need to be fixed on a less high thin pilar. You'd need some tripode base there or the vibrations may be too big for the radar to works properly.
- For an oceanliner that could encounter adverse weather during a crossing, all these large glass windows on the fore part of the superstucture may well be a big problem even with a break-water there. Several ships have had glasses damaged there, even smaller ones. All these rooms there would have to be forbidden to passengers access in case of strong weather.
- The pillars of the extension of the roof of the observation lounge (or whatever room it is there, like spa...) above the bridge seem a bit too thin. Same thing or even more necessary for the ones supporting the sundeck around the amidship pool, it seems to be necessary to strenghten them to avoid buckle.
- Due to wing, the tables and chairs at the base of the fore superstructure will be completely unusable, even at moderate speed. Same thing for all the deckchairs on the above decks of that fore part of the superstructures. You'd need windscreens for being able to use the tables around the circular observation lounge above the bridge as well.
- On your below shot, I don't see why the seats need to translate on a so long distance?
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/don1-3.jpg)
- On the below screenshot, you have 1+1+4=6 stairs along the flowrider to go to the superior half deck when in the same time you have 8 stairs on starboard to directly do that half deck height. So it's 6 vs 8 stairs for the same height, that's wh I think you should add 1 intermediate sair for the two smallest ones, near the flowrider:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftss1-1.jpg)
- It is not clear from the below screenshot so I'm not 100% sure you have it wrong but it looks like your shuffleboards are not true standard.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/L3.jpg)
Indeed, they musn't be placed like it seems you did but by pairs. Players send the puck from one to the other and back to continue the play. There usually (not always though) is a dead line near the numbers grid to not go beyond with your feet when you send the puck. If you allow me, please see sceenshots below for how they were onboard the SS FRANCE and Big U for instance:
(http://www.dvomarinedesign.com/vsf/fr-shuf-2.jpg)
(http://www.dvomarinedesign.com/vsf/fr-shuf-3.jpg)
(http://www.dvomarinedesign.com/vsf/U-shuf-1.jpg)
So here are the few things I can immediately see from your design, although I'm sure some other ones would need rework or improvements but I hope you will take the above ones in a constructive way and you still have plenty of time to improve your design.
To conclude, I'd say I rather like the overall profile, aesthetic and phylosophy of the ship, some ideas are nice (among other things, I like the track idea behind the funnel...), some others I don't really like (the glass wings, the funnel...) and some others would deserve more distance from existing ships (or from movies). Anyway, and although I think more planning and thoughts (use of space, structural and economic constrainsts...), must be spent on such a large ship, I know you've spent quite some time by working and improving during the past 2 years from the starting of this thread.
Feel free to send me the VS model when you'll be ready, if you want to do so as I think it will be the quickest and easiest way for me to efficiently explore it and detect flaws. Again, I'll be glad to offer help with beta testing. Don't worry, I'll of course not redistribute it and I won't request anything in case you win a prize at the contest. ;)
DVOMarineDesign (Dom).
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first of all, thanks a lot for your feedback! that's exactly the kind of feedback that i need!
to get straight to the points you named,
the glass wings,
that's indeed something i was wondering about, there is nothing to support the frame or to absorb the energy of the ship's vibrating and bending, so i will note that one down to my to-do-list. i might add a frame between the 2 wings and a suspension joint on some places.
the aft decks,
this one is going to be tricky, as i do want to keep the slant design of the ship that way, maybe i can figure something below the unused space like lockers or deckchair storage.
the antennas on the aft deck are indeed more logical to place higher.
the radar on the mast can use a fix indeed, i kept the model quite basic without looking to pictures of extising radars.
the windows on the bow,
as it can't be seen on this model, i kept in mind that those windows were made of strengthened glass if not plexiglass that's strong enough to withstand the tons of water rushing against it.
it's something that's never done before and it seemed something completely new to me for ocean liner architecture.
the pilars will be made thicker as that's not a big problem or huge task to fix.
i will see if i can add some windshields on the top deck in front of the tables.
there is enough space for that.
the bridge chairs,
the table in the middle is a chart table, in case the crew want to stand at the table they can move the chairs far enough so it won't bother them or block their paths.
in case they have a meeting or something they can sit at the table aswell.
staircases next to the flowrider,
those 2 small staircases right next to it aren't real staircases, they are more railings for people who have a little more hassle with getting off one of the sun platforms.
the one which is a little bigger next to the flow rider is because that distance between the 2 platforms is too high to just step on it without climbing.
shuffleboard games,
i used a random image from google as reference, so i had no clue if it was right or not. now i know it was wrong i can fix it to the correct numbers and other details.
once again, thanks a lot for your feedback.
i hope i can finish the converting by tomorrow, should i send it to you as a X. file for VS? if yes, i can send the file to you tomorrow morning right away. just don't mind the alpha map issue then.
now im going to take a nap, it's 01:00 here at the moment.
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Congratulations!
You have constructed an excellent model, and it was a joy to follow your development of the MS Oceana.
:thumbs:
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thanks!
i just finished some vray renders, let's compare them to old screenshots of the ship ;)
old:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/vrayoceana11-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceanarend-1.jpg)
new:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc1-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc9.jpg)
old:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceanarend2-1.jpg)
new:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc6.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceanarend7-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc4.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceanarend3-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc7.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceanarend4-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc5.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/vrayoceana12-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc2-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/vrayoceana13-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc12.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/bridge12-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/desks1-11.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc20.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc15.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oceanarend5-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc3-2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Vray_Oceana4-2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc11-2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/Vray_Oceana2-2.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc17-1.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc16.jpg)
and some other nice screenshots:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc8.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc10.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc19.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc18.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc13.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/oc14.jpg)
uploading all these images took more then 30 minutes... thanks photobucket..
Will we see this ship at least in SS Passives or SS20 or SS56 by any chance?
Or it'll be our grand-grand-grandsons that will sail it?
Ship Simulator Extremes to be precise.
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Hello all!
Well, from these shots we can see how huge progress you made mr.robvil, and how complicated job have you done, all your hard work can be seen.
I can't imagine how do you feel? You must be proud on these marvelous work, it is really great, and it is just a question of time when Royal Caribbean International, Cunard, Carnival or some other company will call you interested in your model, trust me, these model is worth investment. :thumbs:
But if the Rock Climbing Wall is to complicated or takes too much polys, i remembered one more important feature of oceanliner/cruise ship you forgot!
On a long cruises across the ocean, peoples can get bored, so they need many features to have some fun, and on of the best things peoples like on cruise ship/oceanliners is the open cinema on the sun deck!
That is excelent for afternoon enjoying during the across the ocean travel, to sit back in the deck chair with the cocktail in you hand watching the movie under the beautifull sunset and wind in you hair.
See how it look
(http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1066/televisiononthesundeck.jpg) (http://img294.imageshack.us/i/televisiononthesundeck.jpg/)
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4518/televisiononthesundeck2.jpg) (http://img820.imageshack.us/i/televisiononthesundeck2.jpg/)
(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7026/televisiononthesundeck3.jpg) (http://img526.imageshack.us/i/televisiononthesundeck3.jpg/)
So if there is more polys, your time, and if youw ant it, you can add id. :thumbs:
Many kind regards!
Capt. Mitch
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Some awesome screenshots there Rob! Don't you just love VRAY! :D
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thanks!
vray is awsome, it reveals the true beauty of 3d models.
@ Captain. Mitch
thanks for the surgestion, i will note it down and as soon as i get back to rotterdam (mondaynight) i will see where i can fit such a screen on the sundeck.
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Nice to hear that mr.robvil, it will definitly looks good, and it will be one feature to make these ship the largest and the most luxury.
Thanks for accepting the suggestions. :thumbs:
Kind regards.
Capt. Mitch
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Hello all!
I know i'm probably annoying with my suggestions, opinions & happynes, but i can't stop watching at these ship, it is so wonderful and i just want to make it better with some suggestions if you think it is OK.
It is nice to hear that you will maybe include the huge flat screen! That is very nice add-on to the ship.
But hey, here i got new idea for the sun deck, a small details if you are still looking for some details... :thumbs:
Small VIP corner:
A small VIP corner on the back of the sun deck would look very nice as a small ship detail. Most of luxury ocean liner/cruise ships have it on the back, and it really nice to be there, that is the wonderful place wich gaves the luxury to the ships and makes it even more luxury and modern wich goes as an compliment for the largest passenger ship in the world.
What makes the small VIP corner?
Well, not much, just two beach umbrellas on each side ( 4 beach umbrellas ), and some luxury chairs and low tables under the beach umbrellas.
Here it is how i imagine these:
Position on your model:
(http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/5621/sundecksuggestion.png) (http://img576.imageshack.us/i/sundecksuggestion.png/)
How the beach umbrella should look:
A white beach umbrella with wooden stick ( like on the picture ).
(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/427/beachumbrella.jpg) (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/beachumbrella.jpg/)
How the chairs should look:
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/866/luxuryoutdoorfurniture.jpg) (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/luxuryoutdoorfurniture.jpg/)
How that looks on some ships:
(http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7016/beachumrellasontheback.png) (http://img638.imageshack.us/i/beachumrellasontheback.png/)
So that is it, i think it shouldn't take so much polys. :thumbs:
:-\ but these is just one more stupid idea, it is just a suggestion, but you can decide, if you had some time, polys, and if you think its good, you may try to do these.
Many kind regards!
Capt. Mitch
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Hey Capt Mitch
Sadly, as posted HERE (http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,22390.msg298499.html#msg298499), the Oceana is actually 200,000 polys too heavy... :(
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yes indeed, however i found a lot of items which can be reduced by polygons redicilously.
but im affraid there are no more details to be added as when this ship is done with optimizing, it might be tight on it's polycount if not a few polygons above.
im trying to do my best at keeping all these details already added.
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Wow, stunning! what an improvement, I envy your skill Mr robville hehe!
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thanks! ;D
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You did not put the bow thrusters on when it says there supposed to be there.
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true, but making just a few simple holes inside a hull takes up about thousands of extra polygons, polygons which i don't have. ;)
maybe i'll make some dark spots on the texture indicating the bowthrusters.
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that will also be nice
anyway you probably wouldnt be able t see them in SSE anyway.
maybe only on bora bora but the black spots will make them look like holes so i think that is a good idea
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it would be terrible if it doesn't win the contest
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She is finally finished!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but good luck, i realy want to sail her in marseile :thumbs:
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thanks! ;D
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i know its late but i was wondering about the glass wings. Did u take them off or add a glass top to make it be like a glass dome/greenhouse. Youre ship is great by the way!! :2thumbs:
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the wings are kept the way they were ;)
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Okay! ;)
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is there an official release date for oceana and the other ccc winners yet?
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Mr. Robville I was wondering, I noticed on the bridge is a bit empty with not so many display screens and buttons, is meant to be like that?
Third
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is there an official release date for oceana and the other ccc winners yet?
Hi there,
There is not official word from VSTEP yet about the release date for the CCC models. Rest assured that as soon as VSTEP know, they will announce it :)
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Mr. Robville I was wondering, I noticed on the bridge is a bit empty with not so many display screens and buttons, is meant to be like that?
Third
the importand displays will be added such as radar's speedometer ect.
i had to remove a few details because of the tight polycount.
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Robville,
What is the total polycount on this model?
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mr. Robville, earlier in this post, i've noticed that you have been making a very detailed engine room with engines. now that the model is done, are there still the engines/engine room?
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Robville,
What is the total polycount on this model?
i don't have the model here right now, but thought it was somewhere in the 320.000 polygons or something that near.
mr. Robville, earlier in this post, i've noticed that you have been making a very detailed engine room with engines. now that the model is done, are there still the engines/engine room?
i still have the models, but it isn't added in the final version because of the tremendous ammount of polygons.
maybe some day if vsteps adds more seperate interior models it can be added.
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Mr. Robville -- I just stumbled on this page and found the Oceana quite impressive! I've been waiting for a new cruise ship for SSE. When do you think this will be ready? I think we would all have a blast sailing this behemoth. Would there be any draft issues?
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Swenson announced it's release on beginning February 2012.
As long as you stay out of shallow waters you should be fine ;)
(draft is 11 meters if I remember right)
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do u know if the tender will also be available individually like the other deployables? ;D
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The tender was sent and accepted as a deployable vessel of Oceana, so it should come packed with the ship.
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Great!
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The tender was sent and accepted as a deployable vessel of Oceana, so it should come packed with the ship.
booyah!
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The tender was sent and accepted as a deployable vessel of Oceana, so it should come packed with the ship.
its inside the ship sooo...
yo dawg, i heard you like ships...
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its inside the ship sooo...
yo dawg, i heard you like ships...
:D
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its inside the ship sooo...
yo dawg, i heard you like ships...
exactly! :D
(http://imagecache.blastro.com/images/feat/Lastfm_Xzibit.jpg)
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wow, i didn't think u guys wood get that. :lol:
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Feel free to use this in your sig ''Were not lame mate :D''
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It is pretty good this ship, but why continue to make non-existent when we ship a beautiful time on earth ship! The most beautiful of them all, as FRANCE, NORWAY, or the (in FRANCE there are many enthusiast who purchase the ship this game if it would be in) or NORMANDIE and for the English Queen Mary, Queen Mary 2 , Queen Elizabeth, Queen Elizabeth 2, or for fans of the big liners ideux Oasis of the Seas
There are times beautiful ships, why invent
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Thanks for the reply and I'm honoured you think about sending the model to me. I'll then be glad to do an extensive (and long) beta testing process in order to track some defaults like the ones you've just discovered in your above screenshots (If I remember well, I 've seen another one in vertical frames of some windows not connecting properly to the ceiling in one of your previous screenshots a few pages ago I think).
But for now, I'd like to put aside the pure modeling/texturing aspect of the model and in my previous post, I had in mind to concentrate on the design of the ship itslef.
But first, now you've completed it, I'd like to send again my congatulations to you. It is quite an achievement to build such a model and I value the work involved for the details there.
At the risk of being hated by all the admirers here, I've a few observations to put here. From your above post, it seems you've understood it is meant to be constructive observations, so don't be impressed by sometimes the direct tone of my words.
For a change, I won't really comment on the quality of the modeling and texturing themselves now (we'll see later when you'll send me the model from which I'd help you finding flaws), but rather on some architectural and technical issues with your model (since you said becoming a naval architecte is one of your objectives). It is my technical background, years to study ships (and a few to sail them) and a dose of common sense that speaks there.
- First, the "glass wings":
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/crs8-1.jpg)
Please tell me how these glasses are held together? Can you imagine the vibrations on the top of these high, large and thin glass surfaces? Believe me, a ship vibrates quite a lot, even with the smoothest machinery and glasses in the middle or on the top of these surfaces have virtually no chance to survive without breaking. The vibrations on the top of these glass wings were the amplitude is the biggest would be enormous and unsustainable. Besides, the structure of a ship works a lot and the deformations (and dilatation) there will break your numerous glasses. On top of that, it would be a nightmare of maintainance and cost when some glasses break because they're nearly all different and you can't really have a standard stock of them.
I think the above is a case where the aesthetic is too much prominent, far more than the practicality and feasibility (actually I don't aesthetically like them, but that's another story and I respect your tastes).
- Another part where the aesthetic is done to the detriment of practicallity and cost is the eccessive slanting of the aft decks. You lose too much space (more than a row of deckchairs or tables) there and, even if it's a fantasy design, you must keep practicality (and somewhat cost and revenue makers) in the picture if you want your design to be more credible.
- I would relocate the two aft little mast on the highest deck (or near the highest) instead of the second one, in order to be able to deploy lighting bulbs lines or wires without danger for the passengers on these aft decks. Remember, on a ship, even a large one, everything move and vibrate and everything has to be able to sustain dynamic contrainsts, as much as possible and flexible objects like bulb lines are to be kept as far from passengers areas as possible.
- The radar on the top of your main mast need to be fixed on a less high thin pilar. You'd need some tripode base there or the vibrations may be too big for the radar to works properly.
- For an oceanliner that could encounter adverse weather during a crossing, all these large glass windows on the fore part of the superstucture may well be a big problem even with a break-water there. Several ships have had glasses damaged there, even smaller ones. All these rooms there would have to be forbidden to passengers access in case of strong weather.
- The pillars of the extension of the roof of the observation lounge (or whatever room it is there, like spa...) above the bridge seem a bit too thin. Same thing or even more necessary for the ones supporting the sundeck around the amidship pool, it seems to be necessary to strenghten them to avoid buckle.
- Due to wing, the tables and chairs at the base of the fore superstructure will be completely unusable, even at moderate speed. Same thing for all the deckchairs on the above decks of that fore part of the superstructures. You'd need windscreens for being able to use the tables around the circular observation lounge above the bridge as well.
- On your below shot, I don't see why the seats need to translate on a so long distance?
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/don1-3.jpg)
- On the below screenshot, you have 1+1+4=6 stairs along the flowrider to go to the superior half deck when in the same time you have 8 stairs on starboard to directly do that half deck height. So it's 6 vs 8 stairs for the same height, that's wh I think you should add 1 intermediate sair for the two smallest ones, near the flowrider:
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/aftss1-1.jpg)
- It is not clear from the below screenshot so I'm not 100% sure you have it wrong but it looks like your shuffleboards are not true standard.
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m104/mrr_03/L3.jpg)
Indeed, they musn't be placed like it seems you did but by pairs. Players send the puck from one to the other and back to continue the play. There usually (not always though) is a dead line near the numbers grid to not go beyond with your feet when you send the puck. If you allow me, please see sceenshots below for how they were onboard the SS FRANCE and Big U for instance:
(http://www.dvomarinedesign.com/vsf/fr-shuf-2.jpg)
(http://www.dvomarinedesign.com/vsf/fr-shuf-3.jpg)
(http://www.dvomarinedesign.com/vsf/U-shuf-1.jpg)
So here are the few things I can immediately see from your design, although I'm sure some other ones would need rework or improvements but I hope you will take the above ones in a constructive way and you still have plenty of time to improve your design.
To conclude, I'd say I rather like the overall profile, aesthetic and phylosophy of the ship, some ideas are nice (among other things, I like the track idea behind the funnel...), some others I don't really like (the glass wings, the funnel...) and some others would deserve more distance from existing ships (or from movies). Anyway, and although I think more planning and thoughts (use of space, structural and economic constrainsts...), must be spent on such a large ship, I know you've spent quite some time by working and improving during the past 2 years from the starting of this thread.
Feel free to send me the VS model when you'll be ready, if you want to do so as I think it will be the quickest and easiest way for me to efficiently explore it and detect flaws. Again, I'll be glad to offer help with beta testing. Don't worry, I'll of course not redistribute it and I won't request anything in case you win a prize at the contest. ;)
DVOMarineDesign (Dom).
That, my French, I dream of sailing on board the ... virtually FRANCE, the ship that thrills many people, the liners must
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It is pretty good this ship, but why continue to make non-existent when we ship a beautiful time on earth ship! The most beautiful of them all, as FRANCE, NORWAY, or the (in FRANCE there are many enthusiast who purchase the ship this game if it would be in) or NORMANDIE and for the English Queen Mary, Queen Mary 2 , Queen Elizabeth, Queen Elizabeth 2, or for fans of the big liners ideux Oasis of the Seas
There are times beautiful ships, why invent
because unfortunately the owners don't want them in game :/
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Just a quick question here, how can the france have owners when she's now several million cans of fizzy pop? Doesn't seem to make sense ::)
Anyway, were starting to drift away from the thread direction, I wounder what the oceana is going to do to most people's computers when they can barely run SSE as it is...
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because unfortunately the owners don't want them in game :/
Yes, and they are wrong ...
Why not not be a system of mods, or people creates free boat for us to navigate!
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If you want Free vessels, you might as well go buy Virtual sailor... This the reason companies DO NOT want their vessels ingame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmDSv9AiU1s&feature=related
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Why not not be a system of mods, or people creates free boat for us to navigate!
Because only VSTEP has the power to do so.
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why invent
Because I design.
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Because I design.
Now I love that answer :2thumbs:
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The CCC was a competition involving money... Mr. Robville won first place! :D
I hope it will be out 'soon' Not VStep soon.
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I'm all in agreement but I know a lot of love boat, and they all tell me that at present the only boats that they like are the TITANIC in 2006 and Pride of Rotterdam! And his what? ships that exist! Existing vessels are values ​​existing course! Can you imagine a kid going into a store and sees the Queen Mary 2 on the cover of the game, he will do what? buy it right away if the parents want! It can as a simulation game with Aibus A380 aircraft on the cover of the game ....
I share this opinion with myself, I think it is the key to success ...
Greetings from France
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My key to succes was obviously because of my design and detail to it.
The fact classic Liners exist must not prohibit me from not design ships myself.
Where would the world be if no one designed something new?
I understand you would like to share your opinion.
But to critisize new designs in a topic of someone who did a new design seems a bit insulting to me.
It would be better if you would post this in some other topic, perhaps one you started new.
As I agree, classic ships look way better than modern day vessels, but as this topic is about the MS Oceana, I don't think it's suitable here for showing disrespects to it in a way of saying new desings are bad.
btw, thanks TFM
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I'm sorry if you understood this, your new ship I really like and I'll gladly buy it when it was released. But I meant was that there are people who prefer the old liners
Cordilament
Théodore
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I appreciate the explanation, I did not really understand your point the first time.
There were some plans by diffrent people to make classic liners during the CCC, but none of these projects made it into the selection rounds or got finished.
Maybe some day more classic ships will be made, but for me, I'll stick with Oceana, I got big plans with her design. ;)
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looks amazing.... but i just think that looks a bit too wide... im guessing that she is meant to be reminant of the oasis but it just looks too wide to me...
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I understand what you mean, it's clearly notable when you put a relevant sized vessel next to her.
But that's Oceana, she's huge, lumpish and excentric, But her sheer size offers a lot of space for interior rooms to design. ;)
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lots of rooms to wander in :thumbs:
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rodger dodger....
I think this game now needs a medium sized cruise ship... like the majesty of the seas.... 70,000 to 80,000 tons range....
Here are some of my ships...
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5093/5537174738_27d4cd008a_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26168844@N07/5537174738/)
Oasis of the Seas Render 44 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26168844@N07/5537174738/) by BIG D22 (http://www.flickr.com/people/26168844@N07/), on Flickr
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5056/5483897654_dc4b617445_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26168844@N07/5483897654/)
Costa Mediteranea Wip (http://www.flickr.com/photos/26168844@N07/5483897654/) by BIG D22 (http://www.flickr.com/people/26168844@N07/), on Flickr
and a vid...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m860RH5l-6E&list=UU4mSnWpZJ7XlWXp1R4n6hog&index=3&feature=plpp_video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m860RH5l-6E&list=UU4mSnWpZJ7XlWXp1R4n6hog&index=3&feature=plpp_video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbc0lYClcho&list=UU4mSnWpZJ7XlWXp1R4n6hog&index=15&feature=plpp_video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbc0lYClcho&list=UU4mSnWpZJ7XlWXp1R4n6hog&index=15&feature=plpp_video)
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the oasis of the seas is to wide.....but we should get back on topic.
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the oasis of the seas is to wide.....but we should get back on topic.
Yeah i noticed that a while ago... i changed it.... that is an older render.
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ahh okay.
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Nice models you got there!
The hull of OotS looks very smooth aswell.
I got something interesting to report. The project goes on, but not for SSE:
http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,27820.new.html#new
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Thanks robville... i am also working on a model of the Celebrity Infinity
http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,27756.0.html
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I have seen that one, great model you made there!
One small notice, a "lifeboat mechanism" is called a Davit. ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davit
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Thanks...
ahhh... thats it... couldnt be bothered googling it.... ;D