Topic: Costa Concordia Grounded, taking on water. (Read 83440 times)

VirtualSkipper · « **Reply #25 on:** January 14, 2012, 14:02:05 »

or as the old RMS Queen Elizabeth...

danny · « **Reply #26 on:** January 14, 2012, 14:03:33 »

I'm not sure weither an electrical "fault" was to blame anymore, because for her to roll like that there must have been a large hole below the waterline to allow water in, unless one of her stablisers got ripped of in the grounding...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16558910

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VirtualSkipper · « **Reply #27 on:** January 14, 2012, 14:05:45 »

Whoa! And here stabilizer is sticking out there more towards the bow.

Snakebyte92 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 14, 2012, 14:08:20 »

It did surprised me aswell that I saw the stabalizers out.
But that's for sure. I'm not very familair with SOLAS, but I know that a ship excist of many watersealed rooms, where no water can enter or leave with the doors close. So if it's just one of the many rooms, this would never be happened.

VirtualSkipper · « **Reply #29 on:** January 14, 2012, 14:10:42 »

Maybe an electrical overload caused the ballast tanks to flood. $:-\$

danny · « **Reply #30 on:** January 14, 2012, 14:11:01 »

Have you seen the size of the hole though!?! and don't forget, once you get some water aboard, she's going to start to sit lower in the water/list, which means more water comes aboard, and the cycle starts again.

I doubt that, I think she either hit the reef then lost power, or lost power and hit the reef shortly after.

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Snakebyte92 · « **Reply #31 on:** January 14, 2012, 15:16:57 »

Wow, that's really not nothing... Absolulety incredible

We have to wait for the investigating for the answer to that. Based on the passenger stories I would say they hit first the the reef, and lost power very quick after that. But I really cannot explaining the lose of power than. It doesn't seem they hit the reef at the ER. But we will see $:-\$

VirtualSkipper · « **Reply #32 on:** January 14, 2012, 15:31:48 »

Is it optical illusion or do I see a big chunk of rock in that hole?

Snakebyte92 · « **Reply #33 on:** January 14, 2012, 15:41:50 »

Quote from: VirtualSkipper on January 14, 2012, 15:31:48

Is it optical illusion or do I see a big chunk of rock in that hole?

Nope, you see that right. Atleast I think aswell

VirtualSkipper · « **Reply #34 on:** January 14, 2012, 15:53:05 »

Here's a better view from a helicopter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=515owJy7ooQ&feature=player_embedded

danny · « **Reply #35 on:** January 14, 2012, 16:49:56 »

Italian divers are now searching the hulk to find the 70 people who are still unaccounted for...

Kevinmcg_ships · « **Reply #36 on:** January 14, 2012, 17:01:56 »

Quote from: danny on January 14, 2012, 16:49:56

Italian divers are now searching the hulk to find the 70 people who are still unaccounted for...

That's not a good thing, fingers crossed they find these missing people alive and well.

Cat320DL · « **Reply #37 on:** January 14, 2012, 17:15:11 »

This has got a lot worse since last night when I herd about it on facebook.

Kyle

danny · « **Reply #38 on:** January 14, 2012, 17:34:10 »

Captain Cadet · « **Reply #39 on:** January 14, 2012, 18:31:09 »

Quote from: danny on January 14, 2012, 16:49:56

Italian divers are now searching the hulk to find the 70 people who are still unaccounted for...

just hope most of them jumped off and swimed to shore.
or there save in the ship

Aidablu · « **Reply #40 on:** January 14, 2012, 19:52:38 »

Latest news is that it's only 49 that is missing, that is nice to hear, i hope that number will decrease during the night hopefully will be 0

larsdehaan · « **Reply #41 on:** January 14, 2012, 20:04:15 »

Heard it on the radio but they didnt say the name/owner but i imediatly knew it

btw any plans for her? i mean you cant really leave her there

MokMok · « **Reply #42 on:** January 14, 2012, 21:20:27 »

I have serious questions about the modern cruiseship designs. They are top heavy and thus have a higher center of gravity and a shorter metacentric height. If the ship is taking on water and some watertight compartments below the waterline are flooding, the stability will quickly reach critical levels with capsizing as a result.

Passenger vessels should have a double hull filled with foam below the waterline. If the hull gets ruptured over several meters due to hitting a rock like the Costa Concordia did, the double hull will act as a buffer and it will avoid that a great part with several watertight compartments below the waterline will be flooded. Passenger vessels should have the same seaworthyness and sufficient spare floating capacity as warships do. Such that if a significant part below the waterline gets floooded, the ship will stay afloat on her buoancy of the hull above the waterline.

danny · « **Reply #43 on:** January 14, 2012, 21:47:18 »

Word on the street is the captain of the concordia has been arrested...

Aidablu · « **Reply #44 on:** January 14, 2012, 21:59:15 »

Quote from: larsdehaan on January 14, 2012, 20:04:15

Heard it on the radio but they didnt say the name/owner but i imediatly knew it

btw any plans for her? i mean you cant really leave her there

My surce in Costa atm says that for now they will leave her there, untill the investegations are over, but all in costa thinks that it's the captain or a officer that is to blame, but in the end it's the captainsÂ´responsebility nomatter what happens on the ship, but he's been arrested for murder untill anything new comes up....

Captain Cadet · « **Reply #45 on:** January 14, 2012, 22:14:19 »

Quote from: larsdehaan on January 14, 2012, 20:04:15

Heard it on the radio but they didnt say the name/owner but i imediatly knew it

btw any plans for her? i mean you cant really leave her there

they cant leave her there,
expecaly if boats cant get out of the harbour easy

Quote from: Aidablu on January 14, 2012, 19:52:38

Latest news is that it's only 49 that is missing, that is nice to hear, i hope that number will decrease during the night hopefully will be 0

almost halved.
i bet you at least 40% of them are still safe.
mind you its far fetch for titanic.
lessons have not been learned from the MS Hearld of the Free Enterpirze

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Herald_of_Free_Enterprise

danny · « **Reply #46 on:** January 14, 2012, 22:16:32 »

Lessons HAVE been learned CC, for a start, the enterprise sank because her bow dor wasn't closed, the costa is in this state because she ran agrond, two COMPLETELY different things.

Another crewmember has been arrested alongside the captain.

Captain Cadet · « **Reply #47 on:** January 14, 2012, 22:23:32 »

i get the bit with the bow stuff
BUT the anticapzing unit only needs to be fitted to RO-RO ferries
NOT cruse vessels

danny · « **Reply #48 on:** January 14, 2012, 22:28:49 »

Thats because Cruise vessels normally don't have huge spaces like cardecks that present a huge hazard for capsizing.
And anyway, even if sponsons had been fitted to the costa, she would have rolled regardless.

The 1st officer is the other person arrested on suspicion of abandoning ship whilst passengers were still in danger and multipul manslaughter.

Captain Cadet · « **Reply #49 on:** January 14, 2012, 22:34:01 »

does it class as manslaughter?
i never new abaning a ship for your life was a crime

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larsdehaan