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Author Topic: Costa Concordia Grounded, taking on water.  (Read 79908 times)

danny

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Re: Costa Concordia Grounded, taking on water.
« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2012, 22:37:08 »

if your the captain your suppost to stay aboard until either the last moment or until all the passengers are safe.
It classes as manslaughter because 3 people died whlist they were under the captains care
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Captain Cadet

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Re: Costa Concordia Grounded, taking on water.
« Reply #51 on: January 14, 2012, 22:40:17 »

oh
so when you go on abord a ship you in a way sing a contract that its the captins falt if you get injured
thats something i leart
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Aidablu

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Re: Costa Concordia Grounded, taking on water.
« Reply #52 on: January 14, 2012, 22:43:22 »

the captain is allways the last person to leave the ship, that's a rule that has around for years +100 yrs but the captain on C cordia was a chicken, i would have been there till i was for sure all passengers was out or till i couldn't see anymore that's for sure, it's shamefull of the captain to just walk off the ship, and then leave the pass to them selfs, i wonder about all the first time cruisrs that was onboard that ship, and the crew was just leaving the ship SHAMEFULL COSTA

I have been crusing alot i was about to try costa cruises, but not anymore, i will cruise american cruise lines only, Royal caribbean, celebrity cruises, Norwegian cruise line, among others
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Captain Cadet

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Re: Costa Concordia Grounded, taking on water.
« Reply #53 on: January 14, 2012, 22:47:34 »

too be onhest there worst than chickens
they shoul not have the stripes off there hands (or sholders)
chickens are better than what they done  :thumbdown:
just makes me feel sorry for who ever lost someone thanks to there "captain"
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Aidablu

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Re: Costa Concordia Grounded, taking on water.
« Reply #54 on: January 14, 2012, 22:53:53 »

So true, as i said, i will from now on only cruise on american owned cruise ships, never Costa or MSC for that sake
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Re: Costa Concordia Grounded, taking on water.
« Reply #55 on: January 14, 2012, 23:00:59 »

still
how do you know they dont have the same problem.
makes me feel that the chance of me becoming a captain is slowly draining away with all these instances :'(
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Re: Costa Concordia Grounded, taking on water.
« Reply #56 on: January 14, 2012, 23:08:23 »

im not saying that the american lines can't have the same problems, but if you look back in history, you'll find out that Sea diamond was sunked by a greek captain on a greek line called Louis cruise line, Now costa Europa has some problems, Costa magica hit a breakwater in DVR had a masive dent in the hull but was able to sail i have seen this in real life, Now costa Concordia... how many american lines have you heard about that took a short cut just because THEY THOUGHT the waters was sailable, i can tell you non....

A captain sould take the route that is the safest not least calmest, not take a short cut because he's as i said THINK and note my big letters on think it was sailable, a captain souldn't think, but know, when my freind that works in royal caribbean heard that he had taken a short cut, he wrote to me, that is freaking horrible....
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Re: Costa Concordia Grounded, taking on water.
« Reply #57 on: January 14, 2012, 23:10:02 »

Just a small point, Costa Cruises is owned by an American company!! Carnival Cruise Lines, just as is Cunard and a number of other companies.

Apologies, the ships owners are in fact Carnival not Celebrity. My sincere aplogies for this mistake.
 
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Re: Costa Concordia Grounded, taking on water.
« Reply #58 on: January 14, 2012, 23:15:35 »

and someone said its a amarican captain :doh:
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danny

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Re: Costa Concordia Grounded, taking on water.
« Reply #59 on: January 14, 2012, 23:52:10 »

Update
Apprently the ship hit the rocks some 40 minutes before she "sunk". they were steaming for a safe location to disembark the passengers when she developed the sudden list and muster stations was sounded shortly after.
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The Ferry Man

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« Reply #60 on: January 15, 2012, 00:02:10 »

Hmm intriguing

Compartment doors failed to shut maybe? I wouldn't have thought the Captain would have moved if he knew she would get a list so quickly

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« Reply #61 on: January 15, 2012, 00:12:46 »

Well, from what I can gather, she struck whatever caused the blackout, power was then restored, and the ship started to make for shallow waters. She then struck something else(?) which caused her to roll heavily, thus developing the list which eventually turned out to be the final nail in the coffin.
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The Ferry Man

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« Reply #62 on: January 15, 2012, 00:13:50 »

Oh a second collision :/

Now depending on the circumstance that must be careless (If they had power back) or real unlucky (If they didn't)...

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« Reply #63 on: January 15, 2012, 00:16:38 »

I'm going off what the costa boss said in a interview, but i'm not sure if he meant what he said, because he wsa having trouble with english...
Does anyone else find it odd that theres been no leakage of fuel/oil? I mean, that hole goes into the engineroom, so surely something must have leaked out...
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« Reply #64 on: January 15, 2012, 00:17:44 »

I would have thought so too...

VirtualSkipper

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« Reply #65 on: January 15, 2012, 00:27:56 »

Just read that the ship might sink another 230 feet within a few days time. Also I am reading on the Dutch newspapers that it is all the captain's fault and charges are now pressed against him.  :o
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The Ferry Man

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« Reply #66 on: January 15, 2012, 00:29:45 »

:O

How can it sink anymore? surly its against the seafloor now?

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« Reply #67 on: January 15, 2012, 00:34:14 »

:O

How can it sink anymore? surly its against the seafloor now?

I guess it is just slipping off.  :-\
Also, on Facebook there is this page which significantly looks like she actually IS slipping down. The bridge was more than the half out of the water just around afternoon, and now the bridge is about 3/4 down in the water. Didn't see much change in the angle of listing...  :-\
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The Ferry Man

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« Reply #68 on: January 15, 2012, 00:37:07 »

Ahh :/

VirtualSkipper

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« Reply #69 on: January 15, 2012, 00:56:16 »

Atleast some good news now! It came just not even an hour ago.  :)

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Brandweerlieden hebben twee mensen levend aangetroffen in het deels gezonken cruiseschip Costa Concordia bij het Italiaanse eiland Giglio. De opvarenden hebben gesproken met de man en de vrouw, maar hebben hen nog niet kunnen bevrijden uit hun benarde positie.

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Fireman were able to locate 2 people in the partially sunken ship Costa Concordia at the Italian island of Giglio. The man and women were able to talk to the rescuers but they weren't able to get them out yet.
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The Ferry Man

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Re: Costa Concordia Grounded, taking on water.
« Reply #70 on: January 15, 2012, 00:59:36 »

That is good to hear :)

VirtualSkipper

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« Reply #71 on: January 15, 2012, 01:01:06 »

That is good to hear :)

Well, it seems this site is the official reporter here.  :doh:

Although, this is quite remarkable:

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6:20pm Update: The following is from a crew member that worked on board the Costa Concordia…

''The captain was seen fleeing ship with the money. Wouldn’t allow staff to abandon ship because it would harm his career. Crew had to arrange the evacuation themselves, hence confusion.''
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The Ferry Man

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« Reply #72 on: January 15, 2012, 01:03:28 »

 >:(

Idiotic Dangerous Captain!

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Re: Costa Concordia Grounded, taking on water.
« Reply #73 on: January 15, 2012, 01:07:00 »

Ooo Negative TFM... Is she spilling any fuel?
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« Reply #74 on: January 15, 2012, 01:09:32 »

Ooo Negative TFM... Is she spilling any fuel?

1400 tonnes of fuel is still onboard the ship as of this moment. Salvage operations may start any moment now.
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