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Agent|Austin

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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #75 on: July 11, 2008, 22:28:26 »

No, in real life if I captain was having trouble maintaining the ship, they would in fact add something to the ship to make it stable. Perhaps a stern thruster or a second engine ;D.

I do. What made you think otherwize?

But they can't just take it into a dry dock and slap a new thruster on. It takes allot of money and allot of time to add something to a ship that wasn't designed to have one.

And if a captain was having problems, they would probably get a new captain before modifying the ships.
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The Captain

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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #76 on: July 11, 2008, 22:28:59 »

Nice idea. Or as I said. A cargo ship is just a massive tonne of metal floating in the sea carrieing evil poisonus and toxic gasses and smelly crude oil in the depth.  

Well you said "Not I"

Well, I said not I because I wanted to keep discussing the topic ;).

Cargo ships might be that, but without them, america would not get stuff from china ;D.
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pauljanaway1

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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #77 on: July 11, 2008, 22:30:31 »

yes adding another truster and a engine is not a small job in real life cargo ships are made in a way so that it has the larges cargo space avaluble why would they want to wast sapce with another engine and truster when what they have allready works so well
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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #78 on: July 11, 2008, 22:31:00 »

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pauljanaway1

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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #79 on: July 11, 2008, 22:33:17 »

why do you keep going off topic
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Gloat

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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #80 on: July 11, 2008, 22:33:46 »

oops

wasnt really off topic

we were discussing what cargo ships were for with the captain

until now

SO, what have we learn't from this extreamly short thread, folks?

NEVER BECOME A CARGO SHIP CAPTAIN!

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D >:( :D :D :D
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pauljanaway1

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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #81 on: July 11, 2008, 22:35:59 »

we were discusing why the vermass dose not need a second engine or more trusters
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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #82 on: July 11, 2008, 22:37:18 »

So, this is what it takes for Captain Titanic to crawl out of the woodwork.
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Gloat

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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #83 on: July 11, 2008, 22:37:36 »

No. We were discussing why the vermaas does need a second engine or a stern thruster
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pauljanaway1

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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #84 on: July 11, 2008, 22:39:44 »

there are 10,000's or members of ships sim and 2 think it dose need it added
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Agent|Austin

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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #85 on: July 11, 2008, 22:41:08 »

there are 10,000's or members of ships sim and 2 think it dose need it added

25,408 members 2 witch "want" it.

that leaves 25,406 more captains that can pilot this vessel correctly!
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« Reply #86 on: July 11, 2008, 22:41:18 »

Thats because we havent heard the thoughts of the 10,000 people. There are only 3 or 4 people discussing it now. and If 2 out of three are in favour of a stern thruster, thats pretty good
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pauljanaway1

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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #87 on: July 11, 2008, 22:42:12 »

there is 4 me you, captain and agent that makes 4
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Gloat

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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #88 on: July 11, 2008, 22:42:48 »

no, you don't count.
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pauljanaway1

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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #89 on: July 11, 2008, 22:44:00 »

i do as i am one of the people discsing it so i count as one
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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #90 on: July 11, 2008, 22:44:24 »

I count as 2
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Gloat

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« Reply #91 on: July 11, 2008, 22:45:47 »

I count as 99... So be quiet.

Paul, seriously. no sence of humor....

Well goodbye guys im of to Turkey for summer holidays tomorrow... need to get to bed. I will only temporarily have access to a computer there. Bye!
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TerryRussell

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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #92 on: July 11, 2008, 22:46:08 »

I really wouldn't want to see bow or stern thrusters on vessels that aren't supposed to have them.

I get a block vote of 5,000,000.  ;)
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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #93 on: July 11, 2008, 22:48:18 »

That's good then, maybe whilst you are away you will mature, (like cheese, it makes more scents when it is older).
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« Reply #94 on: July 11, 2008, 23:09:57 »

I count as 999,999,999,999... oh nevermind. I count as ∞

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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #95 on: July 12, 2008, 02:22:57 »

25,408 members 2 witch "want" it.

that leaves 25,406 more captains that can pilot this vessel correctly!

Not neccisarily, not all"25,406" have read this topic you know ;D. There could be another 3,000 members that want this feature.







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« Reply #96 on: July 12, 2008, 04:07:45 »

So far you have wasted nearly five entire pages on a silly idea that will never happen.
And folks wonder why they are ignored by the developers.
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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #97 on: July 12, 2008, 05:22:39 »

Hi guys,

I think this "yes, but if..."  part of the discussion doesn't lead anywhere.

Even with the 'fake' vessels, they will NOT add unrealistic features or control methods.

The Vermaas, for example, might not really exsist, but ships just like her do in fact exsist in real life. Fake name, real ship. period.

Those ships do not have stern thrusters, so the Vermaas will not have one. Because it is supposed to be a realistic model of that type of ship.

Captains in real life have to make do with what they have, and so do you PC Captains. That's why it is a sim, not an arcade game.

And it indeed takes a whole lot of work to add such a feature to that one ship. it's not like "sticking in a virtuel prop on, and here we go!".  A load of coding is involved, testing, etc.. 

I don't care if you think that the ones that don't need them won't have to use them, they are not there in real life, so they won't be there in the simulator.

Then they could be adding all sorts of silly things to the ships to make it easier for the ones that don't know how to handle them, or are unwilling to learn properly.

Period, end of story, not going to happen. Learn to sail her better and that's about enough of this constant ignorant repeat of a futile request by some of you that cannot take a hint!

Sorry if that sounded really grumpy.... it was meant to.. 

Regards,
Fred
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Agent|Austin

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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #98 on: July 12, 2008, 07:21:48 »

Hi guys,

I think this "yes, but if..."  part of the discussion doesn't lead anywhere.

Even with the 'fake' vessels, they will NOT add unrealistic features or control methods.

The Vermaas, for example, might not really exsist, but ships just like her do in fact exsist in real life. Fake name, real ship. period.

Those ships do not have stern thrusters, so the Vermaas will not have one. Because it is supposed to be a realistic model of that type of ship.

Captains in real life have to make do with what they have, and so do you PC Captains. That's why it is a sim, not an arcade game.

And it indeed takes a whole lot of work to add such a feature to that one ship. it's not like "sticking in a virtuel prop on, and here we go!".  A load of coding is involved, testing, etc.. 

I don't care if you think that the ones that don't need them won't have to use them, they are not there in real life, so they won't be there in the simulator.

Then they could be adding all sorts of silly things to the ships to make it easier for the ones that don't know how to handle them, or are unwilling to learn properly.

Period, end of story, not going to happen. Learn to sail her better and that's about enough of this constant ignorant repeat of a futile request by some of you that cannot take a hint!

Sorry if that sounded really grumpy.... it was meant to.. 

Regards,
Fred


Thanks for explaining to them, since they won't listen to me.
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TerryRussell

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Re: stern thrusters question
« Reply #99 on: July 12, 2008, 09:49:20 »

Well said, Fred!

PS I still want vertical take-off jets for Latitude. Then I can get her into Portsmouth Harbour...  ;D
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