Topic: Costa Concordia Grounded, taking on water. (Read 83476 times)

VirtualSkipper · « **Reply #225 on:** January 26, 2012, 20:50:42 »

I haven't heared any confirmation from anyone. $:-\$

clanky · « **Reply #226 on:** January 26, 2012, 20:55:26 »

The only way that it will be confirmed is when bodies are recovered, but there is no realistic chance of anyone being left alive on the ship and very little chance of anyone being unaccounted for.

michael_taal · « **Reply #227 on:** January 26, 2012, 21:56:41 »

http://scheepvaartnieuws.punt.nl/index.php?r=1&id=566340&tbl_archief=0#566340

in english
it says that the rescuers had said that it isnt possible anymore to find people alive 16 bodies are recovered and 16 are still missing.

we have to accept that under this conditions theres no hope for finding people alive
said Franco Gabrielli thursday he is leading in name from the Italian protection for human the salvage

I can accept that there will be no more alive i mean almost 2 weeks in a air bubble with no fresh air (you will probably die because when we breathe we produce carbon monoxide and that is venemous for us) and with no water (because if you drink the water from the sea you will de-hydrate bacause it is so salt) and no food.

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #228 on:** January 27, 2012, 15:06:06 »

Quote from: clanky on January 26, 2012, 20:55:26

The only way that it will be confirmed is when bodies are recovered, but there is no realistic chance of anyone being left alive on the ship and very little chance of anyone being unaccounted for.

Given the apparent sloppy ways in which passenger manifests have been compiled (according to media!!!) it's going to take a bit of detective work to establish how many people really were on board. Bodies could be out at sea and never be recovered.

When the Herald capsized in 1987, the resultant change was two-fold: Firstly, a rebranding exercise to P&O Ferries, which it effectively was at the time anyway. Secondly, and most importantly, there was a total change in the way the company operated- the positive reporting system so lacking with TT was implemented, training improved and to its credit PO Ferries today has reaped the "reward" of the changes it put in place.

Though I would lay my overdraft on the idea that there will be a new name at costa- with the same management, same procedures and same lack of care and attention.

(though if Clanky is right there might be some shiny new filing cabinets(

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #229 on:** January 27, 2012, 16:19:42 »

A graphic reconstruction from the black box has been released.

It spent the time since the accident travelling with sideways motion.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16754771

danny · « **Reply #230 on:** January 27, 2012, 17:25:31 »

Hmm, That rock he struck looks like its on the chart to me...

assassinator2.0 · « **Reply #231 on:** January 28, 2012, 02:19:24 »

and if you look at the speed on the top right it goes down from 15kts to 9

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #232 on:** January 28, 2012, 18:15:49 »

Quote from: danny on January 27, 2012, 17:25:31

Hmm, That rock he struck looks like its on the chart to me...

Well if it wasn't at the time, it's likely on every map* now...

(*I know it's a chart not a map, but I just like to see the indignant response of everyone telling me so)

danny · « **Reply #233 on:** January 28, 2012, 21:53:56 »

the 17th body has been found aboard the costa concordia $:-\$

clanky · « **Reply #234 on:** January 29, 2012, 07:19:29 »

Quote from: Stuart2007 on January 28, 2012, 18:15:49

Well if it wasn't at the time, it's likely on every map* now...

(*I know it's a chart not a map, but I just like to see the indignant response of everyone telling me so)

IT's A CHART, NOT A MAP!

We aim to please

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #235 on:** January 30, 2012, 23:37:21 »

Ouch... :/

http://www.ferrypubs.co.uk/product.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=&P_ID=530

Brand new book on Costa Cruises, published Jan 2012

danny · « **Reply #236 on:** January 31, 2012, 17:45:13 »

The search for the missing people has been abandoned.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/costa-concordia-search-abandoned-6297459.html

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #237 on:** January 31, 2012, 18:40:01 »

Apparently the hull is badly deformed under water. It seems it is being supported only in a small number of locations; I'm no marine architect or engineer, but surely this will cause such massive stresses that even if the ship could float, it will be sufficiently weakened to make it a risk.

That and the fact that it might take 10 months to salvage... 10 months sea damage... MV Flushing range 2.

Captain Cadet · « **Reply #238 on:** February 02, 2012, 22:34:10 »

it probily get towed to some ship scarp yard or choped up there.
i think its the end of that boat

VirtualSkipper · « **Reply #239 on:** February 02, 2012, 22:43:56 »

I would also think it will be scrapped on the spot. Just like the Tirpitz...

http://www.bismarck-class.dk/tirpitz/gallery/themes/gallthemetirscrapping.html

Captain Cadet · « **Reply #240 on:** February 02, 2012, 23:12:13 »

To be honest i think they'll move it as they want torist back. Just done some bit on torismum in gog they dont like to wake up in the moring to open there curtens to find a ship sunk just out side the port

not my idea of a holiday anyway

saltydog · « **Reply #241 on:** February 02, 2012, 23:31:01 »

I think all expectations of salvaging the ship are now abandoned. I even doubt they will be able to pump out the remaining oil in the wreck. If not, hopefully there is a plan B: removing the oil from the surface..

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #242 on:** February 03, 2012, 00:46:14 »

No statement on the future of the hull has been given by Smit.

You can review their progress here

http://www.smit.com/

or

http://www.smit.com/sitefactor/page.asp?pageid=1546

Ballast · « **Reply #243 on:** February 03, 2012, 12:51:22 »

Both Smit and Mammoet (known from salvaging the Russian nuclear submarine Kursk) are in competition for the contract, looks like the Dutch will do it once more!

VirtualSkipper · « **Reply #244 on:** February 03, 2012, 14:12:37 »

Quote from: Ballast on February 03, 2012, 12:51:22

Both Smit and Mammoet (known from salvaging the Russian nuclear submarine Kursk) are in competition for the contract, looks like the Dutch will do it once more!

Got some problems which involves water? Call the Dutch ofcoarse!

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #245 on:** February 03, 2012, 14:30:14 »

Quote from: VirtualSkipper on February 03, 2012, 14:12:37

Got some problems which involves water? Call the Dutch ofcoarse!

I have a leaking water pipe at work. A bit of a long way for you to come- when I can employ a local Polish plumber instead/.

saltydog · « **Reply #246 on:** February 03, 2012, 15:26:42 »

According to this Costa Concordia update, 10 companies worldwide have been invited to present plans for the removal of the ship..

http://www.costacruise.com/B2C/EU/Info/concordia_statement.htm

Ralphy · « **Reply #247 on:** February 19, 2012, 12:15:36 »

I've found the video from the bridge after the collision, it does look a bit chaotic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzXTRMIcbSo&feature=player_embedded

w_de_falco · « **Reply #248 on:** February 23, 2012, 00:27:44 »

Eight bodies have been located inside the ship, now the death toll has risen to 25.

On the legal side, seven persons (four Concordia officers and three Costa Crociere's managers) have been put under investigation by the judges inquiring the disaster. Commander Schettino's request for provisional freedom has been rejected and he's still at house arrest.

saltydog · « **Reply #249 on:** March 02, 2012, 18:18:37 »

Reportedly, captain Schettino also had an incident as captain on the Costa Atlantica, when he hit and damaged another cruise ship (the Aida Blu) in the port of Wernemunde in 2010..
He later claimed he was not aware of any speed limits in the port..
How he afterwards managed to be appointed captain of the Costa Concordia, the pride of the Costa fleet..
I have no idea..

http://www.couriermail.com.au/ipad/concordia-captain-had-2010-crash/story-fn6ck55c-1226287913037

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