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Author Topic: Ferries for Dover-Calais?  (Read 31306 times)

K2rockall

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Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« on: August 04, 2010, 19:27:12 »

Surely there will be some new ferries (either P&O or Seafrance) provided with the Dover to Calais environment in mind? They can't expect you take the Pride of Rotterdam into Dover and consider it to be real can they?
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Nathan|C

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2010, 19:32:24 »

Looks like that's going to be what happens though. At the moment there has been no mention of any Dover-Calais ferries featured in SSE. However we never known until the day we try the game ourselves. We may be pleasantly suprised when we first open the ship selection menu :doh:
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--tractorman--

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2010, 19:32:46 »

Ah another person who has the same view as me :)
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IRI5HJ4CK

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2010, 19:43:48 »

Personally I don't think V-STEP are going to reveal all...but I may be wrong. I think they'll keep a few things to themselves until the game is released. They're not going to keep everything to themselves, because it wouldn't make sense to not promote the game, but I think they might keep some things back. Or, another explanation might simply that they were running short on time - maybe they'll decide to put a model or two in the shipyard?

All well and good talking about it...I guess we'll have to wait and see! ;D

Jack.
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Twistedlordi

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2010, 20:54:43 »

You can just see a game dev from vstep looking at this and thinking "oh cr*P! i forgot about that"  ;D
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Simon Hersom

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2010, 21:05:18 »

Maybe they will tell us that, after the 9 august, I am not sure about the pride if rotterdam, can sail into calais and dover.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2010, 09:12:13 by Simon Hersom »
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Ballast

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2010, 21:07:37 »

On the released screenshots you can see that the Pride fits there  ;)
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--tractorman--

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2010, 21:09:04 »

She only might fit on of the berths in Dover though..

I feel a fight starting..
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Ballast

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2010, 21:32:02 »

She only might fit on of the berths in Dover though..

I feel a fight starting..

Starting a fight over a ferry in a videogame doesn't make any sense at all.  ;)
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Shipaddict

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2010, 21:35:08 »

I feel a fight starting..

Fluffy...white...clouds...and...rubber...ducks...

:P
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The Ferry Man

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2010, 22:36:50 »

On the released screenshots you can see that the Pride fits there  ;)

It would require serious conversion though
Specialised stern cow catchers...
Removal of the stern loading ramp
Inclusion of internal Car Deck ramps...
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K2rockall

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2010, 10:06:12 »

It will certainly be a real shame if there aren't any new ferries included for this route and will spoil the product! Might stop me from buying it ultimately if most of the ships are the same as in SS2008. When I heard about the Dover-Calais route I was quite excited as I live near Dover and often go to see the ferries from the cliff tops. Much as I like the Pride of Rotterdam model I'd like something new and different. They seem to have missed a great opportunity to include the new Pride of Dover/Pride of Calais that will be operating the route shortly in the next year or so!
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dodweb

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2010, 10:16:36 »

Might not be entirely up to vStep, as they need the permission and cooperation of the owners of the vessel, and in the past that has been a problem regarding the ferries as far as I remember... I also think they are mainly focusing on adding variety to the ship lineup, and a new ferry with nearly the same performance and handling as PoR would not do that. Something for the Shipyard perhaps?
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jibemorel

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2010, 10:25:27 »

It will certainly be a real shame if there aren't any new ferries included for this route and will spoil the product!

I fail to see how, since there probably will be so (too) much ferries for you to enjoy.
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Pride of Dover

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2010, 20:59:18 »

I fail to see how, since there probably will be so (too) much ferries for you to enjoy.

there can never be enough ferries in the game, also, we really needs a Dover ferry in the game, the current ships are insufficent for DCITSE, they either dont fit, or are too slow. I'd say we should have either the Pride of Dover for a ship or European Seaway, or any passenger ship from Dover (discluding Seafrance)
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Ballast

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2010, 21:03:20 »

there can never be enough ferries in the game, also, we really needs a Dover ferry in the game, the current ships are insufficent for DCITSE, they either dont fit, or are too slow. I'd say we should have either the Pride of Dover for a ship or European Seaway, or any passenger ship from Dover (discluding Seafrance)

ShipSim isn't all about Dover strait and ferries. You can't please everyone with the available vessels but you can try to get a wide range of different types of vessels.
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--tractorman--

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2010, 21:04:49 »

An Incat is different, maybe one of them  !:)
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Ncena1

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2010, 21:20:09 »

32 Ships in total were mentioned, i made a list of ships that are already confirmed or seen in videos or pictures. I found something about 32 but no Dover - Calais ferrys. Still some interesting new Ships like "Mamba" and " Mare Australie", which i don't know so prepare for some surprises!  :thumbs:
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Ballast

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2010, 21:24:39 »

The Mare Australe is the inland container barge.. also known as Wachthaven III from the mission creators super pack.
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Matthew Brown

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2010, 22:27:21 »

I still think that model tractorman showed us of one of the new P&O ferries would be perfect  :thumbs:
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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2010, 23:53:08 »

I suspect that those who want to make the D – C run more than once will choose Red Jet because POR took over an hour for the run at max speed, not including leaving and entering the ports.
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--tractorman--

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2010, 00:39:07 »

I suspect that those who want to make the D – C run more than once will choose Red Jet because POR took over an hour for the run at max speed, not including leaving and entering the ports.


And? If thats what its like in real, thats how it should be, just because some people might be lazy and wont want to wait that long for the crossing time. I'd do it in Red Eagle if I had to!
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IRI5HJ4CK

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2010, 08:42:36 »

And? If thats what its like in real, thats how it should be, just because some people might be lazy and wont want to wait that long for the crossing time. I'd do it in Red Eagle if I had to!

Unfortunately not everyone would share the same view :lol:

I myself haven't really got a problem with it. But I only really go on long distance voyages when I feel like it.

I remember starting off in Cowes, making my way downstream and out of the environment...then worked my way down the 'coastline' that was there into this little area where the's an entry. You can see nothing around you. Very relaxing..
From there I continued then made my way back into the main channel. But don't forget, that didn't happen fast at 7-8 knots in the Furie!! :doh:.

I think the reason why I did like that though was because I was seeing something...ie green grass and coastline. With nothing around you except for Water on the Dover Strait I think i'd be carrying a little bit of a frown by the time I reached Calais...its not being lazy, it's just there's not much to see. I am very fond of long distance voyages and trips...I did a few right to the edge of the 'invisable wall' at Marseille. I enjoyed that, mainly because I was in a convoy with others...but that number decreased from 6-7 to 2-3 by the time we had reached it.

Jack.
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Matthew Brown

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2010, 09:24:18 »

The Dover - Calais run would be rather dull without any AI ships.
Bearing in mind it is one of the busiest shipping passages in the world I would be very suprised if VSTEP haven't added any AI ships.

And as for the ferry itself well I think most members agree when they say they desire either The Pride of Dover or Spirit of Britain  :thumbs:

The thought of POR in Dover just seems too big :(   It would to me seem like getting the Pont Aven to do the Poole to Cherbourg route.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2010, 09:29:03 by Matthew Brown »
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The Ferry Man

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2010, 09:57:15 »

I suspect that those who want to make the D – C run more than once will choose Red Jet because POR took over an hour for the run at max speed, not including leaving and entering the ports.


It is a realistic run then...

Excelllent  ;D

I am actually planning a run with Red Eagle too...

*And if you feel sorry for me, think about the Crew on the Former St Catherine, a similar vessel, who are sailing from Portsmouth to Italy, and have had to traverse the Bay of Biscay in a vessel similar to RE, and at about 8 knots...  :-\
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