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Author Topic: Ferries for Dover-Calais?  (Read 28902 times)

clanky

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2010, 10:23:13 »

*And if you feel sorry for me, think about the Crew on the Former St Catherine, a similar vessel, who are sailing from Portsmouth to Italy, and have had to traverse the Bay of Biscay in a vessel similar to RE, and at about 8 knots...  :-\

As horrible as Biscay can be, I have had far more calm and pleasant crossings of the bay than bad ones.
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The Ferry Man

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2010, 10:54:44 »

As horrible as Biscay can be, I have had far more calm and pleasant crossings of the bay than bad ones.

That's good  :thumbs:

But would you really want to have a bad crossing in this:



clanky

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2010, 11:07:30 »

I wouldn't want to cross the Solent on a summer's day in that.
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Matthew Brown

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2010, 12:35:57 »

I have had a bad crossing on that!  :doh: (Well, similar ship)
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Biggles1975

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2010, 12:55:51 »

I hope they hand out sickbags on that thing :) But it is nice that we now have a the choice to do along crossing. I know it's not everyones idea of fun but think of it this way there are flight simmmers that do 10hour flights and they have nothing but sky to look at and have nothing to do as the plane flys itself so at least spending just over a hour doing this is not as bad as that. I hope Vstep can come up with a deal with P&O to prehaps do a ferry pack as a addon for this  as i'm sure there are quite afew of us that would buy such a pack. But for me thease cross channel crossings are what I will be doing the most so thanks to vstep for adding it in :2thumbs:
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Nathan|C

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2010, 13:05:40 »

The thought of POR in Dover just seems too big :(   It would to me seem like getting the Pont Aven to do the Poole to Cherbourg route.

The length of POR is not really a problem...The Seafrance Moliere is only 10m shorter than the POR, and can berth in Dover and Calais with ease. P&Os newbuilds are exactly the same length as POR, too.
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Denis

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2010, 13:53:22 »

Hi Nathan,

The lenght of the PoR is not an issue for both harbours, but you can be sure a ship like the PoR will never (in real life) be chartered on this line :) Not a question of length, but of ship design : PoR transports 260 cars (which is very little) and 530 cabins which would be a non-sense on a 1 hour and 30 minutes cross :) The Sea France Moliere accepts 660 cars and has no cabins (they ave been removed after her refit)  :)
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Nathan|C

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2010, 13:56:56 »

Exactly, one whole deck of the POR is dedicated to Cabins, which would be totally unneccassary for D-C :doh:

The Seafrance Moliere used to be an overnight ferry, and it has been said that her interior design is totally wrong for Dover and Calais. Also the POR does not have bow doors which would mean the ship would have to turn around in each port  :doh:
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--tractorman--

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2010, 14:07:14 »

a 112m incat would be perfect  !:)
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The Ferry Man

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« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2010, 14:08:55 »

a 112m incat would be perfect  !:)

or a 74m InCat...

or a Fincaterri SuperSeaCat

--tractorman--

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2010, 14:13:33 »

or a Fincaterri SuperSeaCat

That would be very nice.. :)

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laganviking

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2010, 14:24:32 »

It would spend more time with the bonnet open than sailing :doh:
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The Ferry Man

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2010, 14:25:23 »

It would spend more time with the bonnet open than sailing :doh:

lol

well currebtly there are 5 HSC with engine problems in UK waters

Ballast

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2010, 19:22:19 »

The Dover - Calais run would be rather dull without any AI ships.
Bearing in mind it is one of the busiest shipping passages in the world I would be very suprised if VSTEP haven't added any AI ships.

Most PC's wouldn't be able to handle all the AI traffic if you would try to simulate a realistic crossing  ;)
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Ncena1

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #39 on: August 08, 2010, 22:48:40 »

But it would be good to have atleast 10 ships crossing like there are in free roam  :thumbs:
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Pride of Dover

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #40 on: August 14, 2010, 20:34:16 »

well, any ferry from the Dover-Calais fleet would be great  :2thumbs:
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The Ferry Man

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2010, 20:39:53 »

With 32 ships, lets hope at least one is suited to the route  !:)

The Ferry Man

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #42 on: August 17, 2010, 14:26:55 »

Maybe they will tell us that, after the 9 august, I am not sure about the pride if rotterdam, can sail into calais and dover.

Well...

Apparently not  :doh:

Denis

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2010, 14:52:38 »

I don't see why the PoR could not sail into calais and dover ? Not talking about internal commodities, but about sailing ?

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The Ferry Man

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2010, 14:53:28 »

PoR would be fine sailing to either port

Its just the berthing arrangements...

Dover and Calais have highly specialised berths

dodweb

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #45 on: August 17, 2010, 14:58:42 »

So basically, you could sail the PoR into either port, but not actually do anything useful with it there (like loading cars or passengers for example)?

But it is nice that we now have a the choice to do along crossing. I know it's not everyones idea of fun but think of it this way there are flight simmmers that do 10hour flights and they have nothing but sky to look at and have nothing to do as the plane flys itself so at least spending just over a hour doing this is not as bad as that.

32 hours, PBY-5, Perth, Australia to Colombo, Sri Lanka, recreating "the flight of the double sunrise" route flown by Quantas every week from June '43 to July '45. 3600nm and no (reliable) autopilot. Or GPS. Or radio. Had a friend stand in as copilot and flew on shifts.
Also flew around the world in a Cessna Caravan with extended fueltanks, landing at least once in every country. Took nearly a year with a little flying every evening. Was often caught during lunch breaks with approach maps and load balance sheets.

I'm for one is looking forward to the ability to actually go from somewhere to somewhere else without making it into a mission and seeing loading screens. I am not familiar with the area, but I would assume that it requires at least a minimum of navigation to hit the harbor entrance dead on when taking out a course after setting out from the opposite side? Would probably be more worse if we had currents and winds shifting us about making us follow a course rather than just a heading (you really dont want to mix those up on a long trip..).

I would also like to see some AI traffic during the crossing. Depending on rendering distance, you could get away with only rendering 10-15 ships at one time and still experience a crowded shipping lane. Like in GTA, where the city appears full of cars, but in fact it only actually renders the cars you can see.

It would aslo be nice with an authentic D-C ferry of course, even though I'm more of a cruiser than a working person.
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The Ferry Man

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« Reply #46 on: August 17, 2010, 15:00:50 »

So basically, you could sail the PoR into either port, but not actually do anything useful with it there (like loading cars or passengers for example)?

Well you could berth at Berth 1, in Dover, but cannot think of any suitable berths in Calais

its a case of using the imagination for that all important refit to allow her to work as stern only (:/ I wanted to berth bow in at Calais) on the route...

Denis

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #47 on: August 17, 2010, 15:03:00 »

You definitely can berth the PoR, both sides, in any available berth ...
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andyfinn

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #48 on: August 17, 2010, 15:04:18 »

you could berth her in the car carrier berth in calais if you only used her as a stern loader.
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The Ferry Man

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Re: Ferries for Dover-Calais?
« Reply #49 on: August 17, 2010, 15:05:42 »

You definitely can berth the PoR, both sides, in any available berth ...

It has no cow-catcher though...

*then again from the pics she has no name either  :-\
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