Topic: Dover - Calais WILL be in the same environment. (was The HQ of the "Dover-Calais (Read 185404 times)

Nathan|C · « **Reply #151 on:** August 25, 2009, 14:15:18 »

"The HQ of the 'TFM For President' campaign team"

Traddles · « **Reply #152 on:** August 25, 2009, 14:22:07 »

Quote from: The Ferry Man on August 25, 2009, 10:37:26

Okay, lets have some of the things we can do with a Dover-Calais Environment

Dover:

Cruise Terminal for Cruise Liners, eg Ocean Star
Ferry terminal for berthing Ferries
Marina
Dover Cargo terminal - Agile Solution
Tug Haven - Useful for mooring cargo/cruise liners, and ferries in bad weather
Eastern Arm, end is used for mooring vessels
Hoverport - Freedom 90

Calais:

Ferry terminal
Hoverpad (2, if you include the one inside the port)
Large Freight Area
More tugs
Can moor Anchor Handling Tugs
Another Marina
Drydock

Dover-Calais Environment:

Ability to do cross channel services. Not just with ferries, but you could have the Agile Solution, or maybe a tug pull a barge from Dover-Calais, Personal Yachts going from one marina to another...

The possibilities are endless!

You also have a genuine RNLI station to operate from.

Tomaten · « **Reply #153 on:** August 25, 2009, 14:34:56 »

this could be some serios fun in MP

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #154 on:** August 25, 2009, 15:49:12 »

Quote from: Traddles on August 25, 2009, 14:22:07

You also have a genuine RNLI station to operate from.

true, I knew I'd forget something

there are also Pilot vessels in and out all day

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #155 on:** August 25, 2009, 15:50:18 »

Updated Version

Dover:

Cruise Terminal for Cruise Liners, eg Ocean Star
Ferry terminal for berthing Ferries
Marina
Dover Cargo terminal - Agile Solution
Tug Haven - Useful for mooring cargo/cruise liners, and ferries in bad weather
Eastern Arm, end is used for mooring vessels
Hoverport - Freedom 90
RNLI Lifeboat Station
Pilot/Patrol vessel
Harbour Tour Vessel

Calais:

Ferry terminal
Hoverpad (2, if you include the one inside the port)
Large Freight Area
More tugs
Can moor Anchor Handling Tugs
Another Marina
Drydock
Pilot Vessels

Dover-Calais Environment:

Ability to do cross channel services. Not just with ferries, but you could have the Agile Solution, or maybe a tug pull a barge from Dover-Calais, Personal Yachts going from one marina to another...

andyfinn · « **Reply #156 on:** August 25, 2009, 17:44:06 »

when i was on my work experiance at Dover port and i went up to port control and they told me that the seafrance moliere can only go on 9 berth even thought 8 berth is the same it doesn't fit.

andyfinn · « **Reply #157 on:** August 26, 2009, 16:45:19 »

i found this on the shipsimpro website which says calais is in the pro versions so it mite be in next ship sim

http://www.shipsimpro.com/public/files/products/downloads/11/Ship%20Simulator%20Professional%20v20%20specification_280709.pdf

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #158 on:** August 26, 2009, 16:51:46 »

Quote from: andyfinn on August 26, 2009, 16:45:19

i found this on the shipsimpro website which says calais is in the pro versions so it mite be in next ship sim

http://www.shipsimpro.com/public/files/products/downloads/11/Ship%20Simulator%20Professional%20v20%20specification_280709.pdf

I think that proves the are in different enivorments though

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5. Dover, United Kingdom
6. Calais, France

and Also the English Channel

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #159 on:** August 26, 2009, 16:56:53 »

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On request, customer specific environments can be created and integrated into the simulator. Contact us at info@shipsimpro.com for all your environment requirements and we will supply you with a tailored price quote.
3.

Maybe they could make one up for us......

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #160 on:** August 26, 2009, 17:01:13 »

Quote from: Wave Music on August 26, 2009, 17:00:09

Prepare all that you have to pay them for including Calais.

But They are already made, so shouldn't be too difficult

Put it into the Shipyard...

Captin Button · « **Reply #161 on:** August 28, 2009, 13:26:02 »

I think it would be great to have both ports in the game but apparently VSTEP arn't porducing any ferries that opperate from Dover into the game wjich i think spoils it a bit.

Captain Darling · « **Reply #162 on:** August 28, 2009, 14:02:10 »

Quote from: Captin Button on August 28, 2009, 13:26:02

I think it would be great to have both ports in the game but apparently VSTEP arn't porducing any ferries that opperate from Dover into the game wjich i think spoils it a bit.

Where exactly did you find that out? $:-\$

Captin Button · « **Reply #163 on:** August 28, 2009, 14:14:45 »

It was in the topic, "what addons do you want to see in ship simulator", in the development corner on the last page.

Captain Darling · « **Reply #164 on:** August 28, 2009, 14:19:02 »

Quote from: Captin Button on August 28, 2009, 14:14:45

It was in the topic, "what addons do you want to see in ship simulator", in the development corner on the last page.

That's just speculation in my mind. Something that wasn't officially announced. Just feelings from a member of what a dev has posted.

Traddles · « **Reply #165 on:** August 28, 2009, 17:03:37 »

http://www.shipsimpro.com/public/files/products/downloads/11/Ship%20Simulator%20Professional%20v20%20specification_280709.pdf

It might be worth pointing out that The English Channel is included in the list of environments here. There are two sides to the Channel.

Please remember that SSPro is NOT a game and never will be. It is a serious aid for the training of professional seafarers.
Whilst it is nice to speculate about this, all, except the published details by Vstep, is pure speculation and nothing more.

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #166 on:** August 28, 2009, 17:04:36 »

Quote from: Traddles on August 28, 2009, 17:03:37

http://www.shipsimpro.com/public/files/products/downloads/11/Ship%20Simulator%20Professional%20v20%20specification_280709.pdf

It might be worth pointing out that The English Channel is included in the list of environments here. There are two sides to the Channel.

That isn't a good sign, is it...

Captain Darling · « **Reply #167 on:** August 28, 2009, 21:23:11 »

Quote from: The Ferry Man on August 28, 2009, 17:04:36

That isn't a good sign, is it...

What do you mean by that? I think he's hinting with the "There are two sides to the channel" that the closest section of the two sides are in PRO..

But as Traddles said, it's in PRO but that isn't a game version that costs around Â£20...

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #168 on:** August 28, 2009, 21:25:39 »

Quote from: Captain Darling on August 28, 2009, 21:23:11

What do you mean by that? I think he's hinting with the "There are two sides to the channel" that the closest section of the two sides are in PRO..

But as Traddles said, it's in PRO but that isn't a game version that costs around Â£20...

I thought he was hinting at them being seperate, but we shall see...

I would love to see what Calais looks like in SSPro...

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #169 on:** August 29, 2009, 16:49:40 »

As much as I don't like speaking for others, I doubt Traddles was hinting at anything as I really doubt he knows (with great respect to him) much more than we do.

I seriously doubt vstep is overly bothered by SS as it has suffered from a lack of attention for quite a while... the regular release of ships and environments for a reasonable price... There are so many cobwebs in 'the shipyard' that I think the entire cast of arachnabphobia is living there.

Everyone makes repeated reference to the difference in price between PRO and SS; however, the number of ships and environments ISN'T what accounts for the justification of the price differential. An environment in either may LOOK superficially the same and the same for the ships, but as said already they are leagues apart in terms of the technical specification.

So if Calais was added or available as an add on, would Commodore of XYZ shipping line complain that he's been ripped off because SS has the same Calais environment as his X000 Euro version? Hardly... as the technical side of it just isn't comparable. Whatever will be with vstep will be.

Captain Darling · « **Reply #170 on:** August 29, 2009, 17:07:07 »

Quote from: Stuart2007 on August 29, 2009, 16:49:40

As much as I don't like speaking for others, I doubt Traddles was hinting at anything as I really doubt he knows (with great respect to him) much more than we do.

I seriously doubt vstep is overly bothered by SS as it has suffered from a lack of attention for quite a while... the regular release of ships and environments for a reasonable price... There are so many cobwebs in 'the shipyard' that I think the entire cast of arachnabphobia is living there.

Everyone makes repeated reference to the difference in price between PRO and SS; however, the number of ships and environments ISN'T what accounts for the justification of the price differential. An environment in either may LOOK superficially the same and the same for the ships, but as said already they are leagues apart in terms of the technical specification.

So if Calais was added or available as an add on, would Commodore of XYZ shipping line complain that he's been ripped off because SS has the same Calais environment as his X000 Euro version? Hardly... as the technical side of it just isn't comparable. Whatever will be with vstep will be.

Never before have I agreed with you this much.

Matthew Brown · « **Reply #171 on:** August 30, 2009, 15:22:17 »

I completely agree that they should both be in the same enviroment!

I was just thinking though, if a solent crossing from Cowes - Southampton on Red Eagle takes as long as it does, (which is nearly the actual crossing time in real life) how long would this route take??

Traddles · « **Reply #172 on:** August 30, 2009, 16:09:50 »

Hi Brown,
The length of time the crossing would take depends upon which ship you are sailing on. But whichever ship it was it would be realistic in relation to the ships speed.

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #173 on:** August 30, 2009, 16:52:02 »

Quote from: Brown on August 30, 2009, 15:22:17

I completely agree that they should both be in the same enviroment!

I was just thinking though, if a solent crossing from Cowes - Southampton on Red Eagle takes as long as it does, (which is nearly the actual crossing time in real life) how long would this route take??

The Red Eagle is a slow ferry, only 14knots. The Dover Calais is operated at 20-24knots, and it takes 1 hour 30 minutes berth to berth

Freedom 90/RJ4 should take less then 1hr

Master Captain · « **Reply #174 on:** August 30, 2009, 21:22:44 »

if it takes that long in real time, i wouldn't expect it all in one environment, as that would be alot of terrain then i'd assume. guess i die now

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