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Author Topic: are you joking with us?  (Read 23451 times)

groennegaard

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Re: are you joking with us?
« Reply #50 on: May 26, 2008, 23:37:24 »

And now, back to "Where's V1.4.1 gone?" questions.  ;D

 :-X
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JHB

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Re: are you joking with us?
« Reply #51 on: May 27, 2008, 07:55:11 »

...or let 3rd part pro developers to make such configurations or cooperate with some of the yards that make such vessels to request data that can be used within the sim (whenever VSTEP pays for such data or not). Maybe Jens Stoltenberg (Norwegian prime minister) can tell this better than me...

Besides speed isn't everything this game miss :P (ooopsy..omfg ... my tongue)
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ACR

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Re: are you joking with us?
« Reply #52 on: May 27, 2008, 12:45:17 »


If you really want to help improving the dynamics, you can start posting sea trial reports here on the forum. If you have access to a report from a HSC similar to Red Jet 4, that would be really interesting... :)

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groennegaard

not only similar, exact the red jet4. here,s the link with trial results

http://www.nwbs.com.au/net/39.html

35kts service, 38.1 kts max speed full loaded, 41kts max light loaded.

the most realistic value for shipsim purposes would be so 38kts max speed.
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groennegaard

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Re: are you joking with us?
« Reply #53 on: May 27, 2008, 12:54:49 »

Eh...? That is not a sea trial report. That is just base particulars. I would like to see:

  • Turning tests at full/half speed
  • Crash stop
  • Coasting stop
  • Acceleration
  • Zig-zag tests 10 degr./20 degr.

Then it will be interesting to discuss the vessel's performance.

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groennegaard
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ACR

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Re: are you joking with us?
« Reply #54 on: May 27, 2008, 13:10:19 »

well, of course this data is so not available for me. but since even when you would have this data you would not manage to translate it 100% in shipsim, so we are talking besicly here about the top speed.

and for the simply top speed you have from the manufacturer all data you need.
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groennegaard

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Re: are you joking with us?
« Reply #55 on: May 27, 2008, 13:39:20 »

well, of course this data is so not available for me. but since even when you would have this data you would not manage to translate it 100% in shipsim, so we are talking besicly here about the top speed.

If you had some data from a HSC we could compare it to the SS Red Jet and then discuss what would be realistic and what would be a joke. Top speed is, as I have now say numberous times, only one out of hundreds of factors. If you change one factor you will have to consider the model in general and thereby all the other factors as well.

It certainly can be done, but it requires a lot of time and of course detailed data (main particulars are not enough, unfortunately). It has been done to PoR (as I mentioned earlier) and those changes will be released very soon.

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groennegaard
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pauljanaway1

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Re: are you joking with us?
« Reply #56 on: May 27, 2008, 13:54:04 »

If you had some data from a HSC we could compare it to the SS Red Jet and then discuss what would be realistic and what would be a joke. Top speed is, as I have now say numberous times, only one out of hundreds of factors. If you change one factor you will have to consider the model in general and thereby all the other factors as well.

It certainly can be done, but it requires a lot of time and of course detailed data (main particulars are not enough, unfortunately). It has been done to PoR (as I mentioned earlier) and those changes will be released very soon.

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groennegaard

sorry what is happening to the POR
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groennegaard

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Re: are you joking with us?
« Reply #57 on: May 27, 2008, 14:13:33 »

sorry what is happening to the POR

The dynamics have been tuned. When updated, it will react more realistic. The update isn't released jet, but it will be out very soon.

groennegaard
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pauljanaway1

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Re: are you joking with us?
« Reply #58 on: May 27, 2008, 14:35:33 »

what will the update do to the ship will in increase speed, truning or somthing eles
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groennegaard

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Re: are you joking with us?
« Reply #59 on: May 27, 2008, 14:39:42 »

what will the update do to the ship will in increase speed, truning or somthing eles

Pretty much everything. I can't tell you more now. I'll give you more details when it has been released.

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groennegaard
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pauljanaway1

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Re: are you joking with us?
« Reply #60 on: May 27, 2008, 14:42:40 »

ok will wait
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