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shipfan55

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If the titanic does sink...
« on: September 09, 2007, 04:04:48 »

i hope its sinking is accurate,minus the breaking.if it does,they should make a 2-dimension model and set it in a water physics program and in it add a water pump that would fill it up to calculate the accuracy of the sinking.

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Stuart2007

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2007, 01:01:00 »

a TWO dimensional model? I think a 3d version would be best...

The problem is that even using a sophisticated maths analysis of the design, we still do not know 100% what damage occured and when/how. We don't really know what speed the impact was at.

If all of that was known then a pretty accurate sinking model could be developed, but there is simply too many unknowns.

I do know one fact for certain. Before the impact it was above the water. Some time after, it was below. That's a basic, but perfectly true analysis of the sinking

Stu
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Dev

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2007, 17:26:00 »

there ws a rumour lately that it may have hit an iceberg and this could have been a significant cause of the sinking.
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Al Bundy

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2007, 18:03:15 »

I think that misplaced water was the major factor of the sinking.
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clanky

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2007, 18:04:35 »

Pure conjecture :D

Can I just point out at this time that ships sinking is a bad thing, surely the idea is to keep them afloat guys :)
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Dev

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2007, 19:14:17 »

Or as insurance compaies put "a sudden and unintentional ingress of water"  ::)
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shipfan55

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2007, 20:42:41 »

im sick of sarcasm,dev and Al Bundy. >:(
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Stuart2007

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2007, 23:39:21 »

im sick of sarcasm,dev and Al Bundy. >:(
Oh dear..

Look. It's time for brutal honesty... They got it right at the beginning of the titanic film... someone left the bath tap running.

Stu
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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2007, 00:56:53 »

Can I just point out at this time that ships sinking is a bad thing, surely the idea is to keep them afloat guys :)

All this obsession with sinking takes me back a few decades to a young Woody Allen explaining how immature his wife was:
“She was so immature that she would walk right in while I was in the bathtub and sink all my boats!”

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2007, 20:04:43 »

there ws a rumour lately that it may have hit an iceberg and this could have been a significant cause of the sinking.

It was definitely Leo DiCaprio's bad acting that sank that ship...
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greyhill

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2007, 20:11:08 »

i think the captain was trying to beat sadsid's fastest time on the new york mission
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captseaton

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2007, 20:22:29 »

i think the captain was trying to beat sadsid's fastest time on the new york mission

 :o
Oh, I'll go there...in due time. Thou shalt not run up the Titanic's engines to full speed on a maiden voyage.

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greyhill

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2007, 21:08:15 »

the engines would have been run in at full steam during her sea trials, before her maiden voyage, thus giving her her known maximum speed. one would think anyhow, im not a titanic buff, although i do wonder where she would be now if she never sank, probably would have been a victim of a german torpedo during the 1st world war instead  ::)
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captseaton

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2007, 21:20:55 »

the engines would have been run in at full steam during her sea trials, before her maiden voyage, thus giving her her known maximum speed. one would think anyhow, im not a titanic buff, although i do wonder where she would be now if she never sank, probably would have been a victim of a german torpedo during the 1st world war instead  ::)

Over the course of the Titanic's maiden voyage, it was customary to slowly increase speed with each passing day. If the weather was nice for her final day, they were going to open her up and possibly would have got her up to 24 knots. The day before the incident, they were only up to 21.6 knots.

With that brittle high-sulfur steel, she probably would have made it to the bottom eventually. RMS Olympic collided with a destroyer at around 15 knots and almost sank. The resulting repairs delayed Titanic's completion and maiden voyage. Queen Mary collided with a destroyer at nearly 34 knots, sliced the destroyer in half and kept going. Oh, what a difference a few years makes in shipbuilding technology.
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greyhill

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2007, 21:42:24 »

you learn something new every day ;), just out of interest, do know if she carried out sea trials before her maiden voyage, although she may have just ran through some testing on her way down to southampton from belfast ??
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clanky

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2007, 21:48:40 »

She certainly did have sea trials.

More information here http://www.titanic-titanic.com/titanic_sea_trials.shtml
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greyhill

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2007, 21:55:19 »

She certainly did have sea trials.

More information here http://www.titanic-titanic.com/titanic_sea_trials.shtml

cheers for that, very interesting, just noticed that your a stones throw across the water from me, i'm in stranraer, small world
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clanky

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2007, 21:58:38 »

Did a few weeks agency work on the European Highlander recently.

Was even less of a stones throw away.
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greyhill

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2007, 22:02:30 »

even less if you were on her during the storm, 2yrs ago i think, when she parked on the beach, have a great photo of her sitting next to the main road aground with a road sign stating that the port is 100metres ahead.  :D
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2007, 22:08:29 »

I remember that being on the news, didn't realise that it was the highlander.

Was over in Glasgow on Saturday for the footie, flew though, don't like ships! :D
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greyhill

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2007, 22:17:18 »

i thought the footie fans prefered the boat, more drinking time, especially on the caledonia.   :D give us a shout if your across, we'll gan fur a pint  ;)
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clanky

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2007, 17:11:08 »

I had the kids with me, so it is quicker and easier to fly, and like i said, i don't like ships! :D

Don't think the Caledonia would be such a good idea though :o
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greyhill

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2007, 17:59:05 »

like i said, i don't like ships! :D

i dont like water, people always used to ask why i went to sea then, had informed them that one of the first things you learn is that you never get off the boat unless you really have to, the ships your best lifeboat  :D
unless you were on the Titanic, (thought i'd better get back on topic  :D)
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shipfan55

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2007, 20:23:43 »

*off topic*

anyone like my sig?lawl(h)!!!! :D :D :D
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Stuart2007

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Re: If the titanic does sink...
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2007, 23:00:22 »

I've had to turn signatures off as all I get is half a page taken up by them.

Stu
« Last Edit: September 19, 2007, 23:02:03 by Stuart2007 »
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