Titanic sunk by steering blunder, new book claims!

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[RMS Gigantic]

I would agree, but wouldn't the bow tip over enough- just enough- that the water in the foward compartement spill over towards the next, and so on, still dooming the ship?

Titanic was designed to have three or four of her front compartments flood, and still remain afloat. If you look at the Ship Simulator model of the ship, 3 compartments goes to the middle of the forward well deck, four takes you to the middle of the bridge. That's a pretty far way for an iceberg to go in a head on collision, even at 22½ knots.

[x19Titanic12x]

Titanic was designed to have three or four of her front compartments flood, and still remain afloat. If you look at the Ship Simulator model of the ship, 3 compartments goes to the middle of the forward well deck, four takes you to the middle of the bridge. That's a pretty far way for an iceberg to go in a head on collision, even at 22½ knots.

But don't they go up as far as E-deck, so they weren't really watertight?

[Third Mate]

Gentlemen, gentlemen I have at home a documentary about the Ship, It's called Titanic, the complete Story. Special Commemorative Edition. Do you think this holds the key?

[Mad_Fred]

Of course it doesn't. None of it really does. 

The key is... and don't tell anyone, cause it's a secret..

The bally thing sunk.. it's gone, it's been almost a century and no lesson yet still to be learned about that faithful night will change anything in modern shipping any more, all it does is make so-called Titanic buffs argue on message boards and make other people a lot of money by selling their books and DVDs.

And that's all there is to it.   

[RMS Gigantic]

But don't they go up as far as E-deck, so they weren't really watertight?

Even so, Titanic was still designed to have as far back as her well deck, or even bridge, flooding, and live to tell about it.

[Mad_Fred]

Too bad that didn't really help, though. 

[RMS Gigantic]

I've heard it tossed around a couple times that it makes her able to take more flooding than most modern ships

[Third Mate]

Of course it doesn't. None of it really does. 

The key is... and don't tell anyone, cause it's a secret..

The bally thing sunk.. it's gone, it's been almost a century and no lesson yet still to be learned about that faithful night will change anything in modern shipping any more, all it does is make so-called Titanic buffs argue on message boards and make other people a lot of money by selling their books and DVDs.

And that's all there is to it.   

This Ship has made quite a reputation for itself, plus as the media butted in and added in fancy words like practically unsinkable. Not putting many life boats because back in those days all people need it to know is that ships are unsinkable. They just added those lifeboats just for the hell of it so people could of gained a sense of safety. The finale tonnage of the ship as you all know was 45,000 Tons after they made some modifications to the ship to personalize it to suit people's basic needs. So after all this publicity, books, DVD's claiming to tell the truth, once again we are back to square 1

[Third Mate]

By the way, RMS Gigantic was RMS Mortanium, probably you already knew that

[RMS Gigantic]

The reason they added the lifeboats is because the thought at the time was that if a ship were sinking, another ship would be near enough to rescue the passengers, with lifeboats there in case they needed a second trip. Thing is, that isn't that far off, considering that a ship widely believed to be the Californian was close enough to the Titanic as she sank to gain a visual on her. The thing is, the Titanic's last message to Californian was a rather rudely worded one in response to Californian's operator nearly deafening Titanic's, without even properly formatting the message it was sending.

By the way, RMS Gigantic was RMS Mortanium, probably you already knew that

What on Earth do you mean by that?

[Mad_Fred]

I've heard many things tossed around about her that are really just nonesense, to be honest, RMSG.  

She did take a lot of flooding though, I grant you that..

Just about 100% I think.. in the end.

[Third Mate]

What on Earth do you mean by that?
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The Boss who was in Charge of these 3 Monster ships, decided to change the name

[RMS Gigantic]

I have never heard of the "RMS Mortanium"

[Third Mate]

I have never heard of the "RMS Mortanium"

Sorry spelled it worng, it was Mauretania

[Mad_Fred]

This Ship has made quite a reputation for itself, plus as the media butted in and added in fancy words like practically unsinkable. Not putting many life boats because back in those days all people need it to know is that ships are unsinkable. They just added those lifeboats just for the hell of it so people could of gained a sense of safety. The finale tonnage of the ship as you all know was 45,000 Tons after they made some modifications to the ship to personalize it to suit people's basic needs. So after all this publicity, books, DVD's claiming to tell the truth, once again we are back to square 1

Actually, the 'unsinkable' stuff is from AFTER the disaster... before, only one reported had said something like that when he mentioned she looked as if she was 'practically unsinkable', but this was not the general feeling about her with the public. That took on a life of it's own only after she sunk. When people smelled there was money to be made, cause disasters sell, easy as that.

[Mad_Fred]

Sorry spelled it worng, it was Mauretania

RMS Mauretania (also known as the "Maury") was an ocean liner built by Swan, Hunter & Wigham Richardson at Wallsend, Tyne and Wear for the British Cunard Line.

The Olympic-class passenger liner, RMS Titanic was owned by the White Star Line and constructed at the Harland and Wolff shipyard in Belfast, Ireland.

The three Olympic class ships were built to rival the Cunard Line ones, Maury and Lusitania and Aquitania. And there was one that was changed, name wise, in the Olympic class, but that was the Gigantic which actually became the Britannic.

You're getting things mixed up I think, mate.  

[Third Mate]

RMS Mauretania (also known as the "Maury") was an ocean liner built by Swan, Hunter & Wigham Richardson at Wallsend, Tyne and Wear for the British Cunard Line.

The Olympic-class passenger liner, RMS Titanic was owned by the White Star Line and constructed at the Harland and Wolff shipyard in Belfast, Ireland.

The three Olympic class ships were built to rival the Cunard Line ones, Maury and Lusitania and Aquitania. And there was one that was changed, name wise, in the Olympic class, but that was the Gigantic which actually became the Britannic.

You're getting things mixed up I think, mate.  

Just like oats mixed up with berry's and honey.Funny thing I ran out of those

[Captain Cadet]

what sunk it was the captain and when it hit the material what it was made out of cracked and then the shockwave sent 3 million rivets lose

[IRI5HJ4CK]

what sunk it was the captain and when it hit the material what it was made out of cracked and then the shockwave sent 3 million rivets lose

 

[Mad_Fred]

Finally we know! 

[x19Titanic12x]

This Ship has made quite a reputation for itself, plus as the media butted in and added in fancy words like practically unsinkable.

Most (or all) ships called 'unsinkable' sunk tragically. Just thought I'd share.

[x19Titanic12x]

I've heard many things tossed around about her that are really just nonesense, to be honest, RMSG.  

She did take a lot of flooding though, I grant you that..

Just about 100% I think.. in the end.

The one thing that made no sense to me was a theory that Bruce Ismay and Captain Smith were Jesuits and they intended to sink the ship.

[Mad_Fred]

It didn't make sense to you, because it is nonesense.     

That is wrong on so many levels, the one responsible for it should be ashamed of him or herself.

[x19Titanic12x]

It didn't make sense to you, because it is nonesense.     

That is wrong on so many levels, the one responsible for it should be ashamed of him or herself.

I agree. Just some nutcase desperate for public acknowledgment

[Third Mate]

The one thing that made no sense to me was a theory that Bruce Ismay and Captain Smith were Jesuits and they intended to sink the ship.

Yeah, it's like Bruce Ismay told the Captain  "YOU MUST BREAK THE SPEED RECORD CAPTAIN SMITH, OR SINK THE SHIP TRYING" OTHERWISE YOU ARE FIRED( no the exact words). At the time Captain Smith, must of had a lot on his mind therefore he was weak minded and the words controlled him throughout the journey. Some people say, he made it off the ship....in a discusied so no one will see him. In the movie I remember, Ismay approached the captain and was questioning him why aren't they going top speed? That must of pressured the captain and eventual gave in. In one of the scenes you can see Ismay looking back at the Titanic from a lifeboat with a very guilty look on his face like "what have I done" expression.