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RMS Gigantic

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Texture errors
« on: August 30, 2009, 02:27:37 »

From time to time in the game, textures, especially on flags, tend to be mapped wrong. The most well known example is Titanic's UK blue ensign, but it happens other times too, as you can see by the upside down UK jack in the attached picture. I am curious if it has happened to ships, etc, too? Otherwise, why do only flags have this issue?
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The Ferry Man

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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2009, 11:03:29 »

From time to time in the game, textures, especially on flags, tend to be mapped wrong. The most well known example is Titanic's UK blue ensign, but it happens other times too, as you can see by the upside down UK jack in the attached picture. I am curious if it has happened to ships, etc, too? Otherwise, why do only flags have this issue?

The flag is upside down? Looks fine to me

RMS Gigantic

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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2009, 11:09:13 »

The UK flag isn't turn symmetrical when rotated 90 degrees ;D

Look at the diagonal red cross at http://www.jdawiseman.com/papers/union-jack/union-jack.html and compare it with the above picture.
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Traddles

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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2009, 11:10:28 »

Hi Ferry Man, You should be ashamed to make that comment. Especially when you are British. The flag on Red Jet as shown is not only upside down, but is of course not the correct flag, which should be a red duster. (with the Union flag the right way up in the top corner!!!!)  Even worse, it takes an American citizen to put you right. :doh:
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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2009, 11:13:08 »

I think I'll keep quite about flags from now on...
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RMS Gigantic

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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2009, 11:15:36 »

Even worse, it takes an American citizen to put you right. :doh:
That's what I had thought, too :P A foreign citizen correcting you on your own nation's flag!

Anyway, why do all these flags have these mapping errors?
« Last Edit: August 30, 2009, 11:18:29 by RMS Gigantic »
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The Ferry Man

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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2009, 11:18:10 »

I think I'll keep quite about flags from now on...

Me too...

I think I have seen the difference, but it isn't something I would have noticed...

RMS Gigantic

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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2009, 11:21:19 »

it isn't something I would have noticed...
It is, indeed, a bit of an issue about the UK flag: flying a country's flag upside down is a symbol of distress, particularly with the American flag. The problem being, flying from a distant ship, the UK flag can be difficult to distinguish if it's upside down!



Also, Traddles, I believe that flag is too short for the texture, as two or three of the quadrilaterals forming the cross of Saint Patrick are actually pentagons!
« Last Edit: August 30, 2009, 11:24:46 by RMS Gigantic »
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Traddles

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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2009, 11:28:21 »

Hi RMSG,
The whole flag is incorrect in size and shape as you point out. Perhaps it was made by an inexperienced person and was not deemed important enough to alter. :o :thumbdown:
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RMS Gigantic

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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2009, 11:29:21 »

Have you also noticed that Titanic's blue ensign does not have a 1:2 ratio?
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Traddles

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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2009, 11:40:12 »

Is this better for you?
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RMS Gigantic

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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2009, 11:41:55 »

Much, but I was talking about Titanic's ensign just now :)
« Last Edit: August 30, 2009, 11:44:00 by RMS Gigantic »
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Traddles

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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2009, 11:49:21 »

Titanics ensign appears differently at different times. ::) Sometimes it is upside down, sometimes back to front and always incorrect, but this is only a game when all is said and done.
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RMS Gigantic

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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2009, 11:51:09 »

Yes, and I have noticed that it didn't quite look right in terms of size ratio even when loaded properly!
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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2009, 14:07:24 »

You're not losing too much sleep over it I hope?  ;D
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IRI5HJ4CK

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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2009, 14:09:36 »

I couldn't care what way the Union Jack Looks :P ;D

Why not put an Irish tri-colour flag on it, that would look just as good ;D :lol: (And plus, it isn't very complicated) ;D

Just my very valuable opinion on that one there :lol: :D

Jack :doh:
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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2009, 14:18:36 »

You can get away with anything if you just say "and that's my opinion"  :doh:
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IRI5HJ4CK

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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2009, 14:19:41 »

"and that's my opinion"  :doh:

Correct ;D :lol:
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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2009, 14:35:45 »

Anything?  ::)
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Traddles

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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2009, 16:04:01 »

Hi Jack,
Does the tricolour have to be the right way round or does that not matter either.  ;)
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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2009, 16:58:32 »

No, That does matter, because then, if it were back to front, It would be the flag of another country!

Jack ;D
p.s. Sorry, I cannot help having a laugh :lol:
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Capt. Matt

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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2009, 17:28:07 »

THe Japanese flag is the easiest I nickname it the target flag (a red circle in the middle of it) Looks the same either way...
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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2009, 18:03:02 »

THe Japanese flag is the easiest I nickname it the target flag (a red circle in the middle of it) Looks the same either way...

Then wait until you see that flag!
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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2009, 18:07:51 »

Just a green flag with nothing? The Easiest flag to remember.  ;D
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RMS Gigantic

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Re: Texture errors
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2009, 19:00:33 »

No, That does matter, because then, if it were back to front, It would be the flag of another country!

Jack ;D
p.s. Sorry, I cannot help having a laugh :lol:
A reversed Irish Flag is the flag of Cote d'Ivoire! Thing is, It's IMPOSSIBLE to fly vertically symmetrical flags like that upside down as distress signals!

Why not use the 46-star US flag and fly it off Titanic's foremast? ;D

The US flag is one of the world's most complex flags. The game would mess it up A LOT! :P

Though the idea of a Titanic with all three flags versus one flag based on location isn't that bad of an idea if you ask me. It would be nice to see the White Star house flag off the main mast, the courtesy ensign off the foremast (UK in British ports, US in American ports, and France in French ports), and, of course, the blue ensign on the ensign staff at the stern (the only flag that stays on when not in port), showing up between 8:00 AM and sunset. I know of a PDF where the sizes of the flags were studied lengthily based on photographs and any surviving flags, as well as specified when the flags were most likely flown: http://titanic-model.com/articles/flags/FLAG_REFERENCE_MultiPage_ver2.pdf

Of course, consider the context! More lag-inducing aesthetics is just what Titanic needs :lol:

But still, for the PCs that can stomach it, it would be a pretty nice feast for the eyes.
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