Topic: I might construct a computer. (Read 45148 times)

Master Captain · « **Reply #75 on:** August 11, 2009, 18:27:47 »

thats what i've been saying all along, building a computer usually will work out cheaper and better if you know what you're doing, if you dont or just think you do you're gonna run into a world of problems and it'll just be easier to go out and buy a pre built one until you know what you're doing.

firestar12 · « **Reply #76 on:** August 11, 2009, 20:22:34 »

Quote from: Sam on August 11, 2009, 12:35:36

I can only say one thing, and that is: bad choise!

I don't think that building your own pc is a good idea.
As I said before, I did it a few times and will never do it again.

It is much nicer to receive a pc wich works nice (like my Dell) then having a bunch of problems by constructing your own pc. If you don't really know what you are doing.
I don't really think that firestar is up to the job, biceaus in the beginning he was talking about a 5.5gHz processor. And for only a little bit more money you can have a pc, wich is tested, wich is perfectly balanced.

And about the software: if you are handsome enough to construct your own pc, it should be easy to remove the software you don't like without a lot of problems.
I think dell is great quality, good price and easy to use.

The pc that I build myself, is at the moment, running great.
But I had some trouble to get it that way.
And it allso costed me extra money to get it working great.

While ups delivered my laptop one week after I ordered it and everything was on it and worked great.
No extra costs, no headaches.

I was a tiny bit off when I wrote 5.5 GHz processor, if you know what I mean, I had gotten distracted by something on the main page and said that. And I know my PCs. My friend will also help me build it, he built his! And I think that many times, PCs that are built (if you know what you are doing...

) run better than the ones from the store.

llamalord · « **Reply #77 on:** August 11, 2009, 21:02:22 »

The only reason that a computer with parts bought and chosen by a person runs better is because you skip the step in the factory where all the bloat-ware is installed.

firestar12 · « **Reply #78 on:** August 11, 2009, 21:39:12 »

I hate bloat ware. I found a CD Drive on Newegg, and I almost got it, until one customer said it apparently was loaded with bloatware and came up with an ad every time you put a CD in the drive.

llamalord · « **Reply #79 on:** August 11, 2009, 22:00:34 »

There is a way you can deal with that by changing the slave (if that drive is the slave drive) report properties in the systems bios.

firestar12 · « **Reply #80 on:** August 11, 2009, 22:06:02 »

I love modifying computers, llamalord. Have you ever overclocked a PC? Also, do you think a 420W Power Supply would be good for this system?

llamalord · « **Reply #81 on:** August 11, 2009, 22:11:16 »

Far too many times

I think that is good for that machine,

Mine is only a 500 Watt and it serves me fine. $:-\$

firestar12 · « **Reply #82 on:** August 11, 2009, 22:15:48 »

Great, what do you think of the system? How will it run? What FPS on ShipSim do you think I will get?

Master Captain · « **Reply #83 on:** August 11, 2009, 22:30:44 »

Quote from: Firestar on August 11, 2009, 22:15:48

Great, what do you think of the system? How will it run? What FPS on ShipSim do you think I will get?

well what is your final decision on the specs?

firestar12 · « **Reply #84 on:** August 11, 2009, 23:31:11 »

Good question,

Operating System: Windows 7, or WinXP (Or both with partitioning) and just for the record, I would never do garbage Vista.
Processor: AMD Dual Core 3.0 GHz
Ram: 3 GB (After update, starting out with 2 GB)
Graphics Card: GeForce GTS 250
Hard Drive: 640 GB
Power supply: 450W

I didn't include some other stuff like CD Drive because it has not much to do with FPS.

Master Captain · « **Reply #85 on:** August 12, 2009, 01:34:39 »

that sounds good, but FYI windows 7 is vista with clean underpants as terry said.. Windows XP will be hard to get unless you have it already. I reccomend Intel over AMD, otherwise things look good, a 512mb g card is good. I'd reccomend a 64 bit system so you can have over 3gb of ram

Sam · « **Reply #86 on:** August 12, 2009, 10:49:42 »

A home build pc won't run better then a pc from store if they have the same specs.

If you really want to try it.
Just do it.
But make shure that it is a good system, don't rush on choosing parts.
Make shure that every component will work as it should work.

On my last pc, i bought a fast graphic card, but a not verry fast processor. (singel core)
Result: Graphics where awfull, textures where shown all wrong.
And I had to buy a new processor (dual core) wich costed me â‚¬140 just to make the system run good.

And that is why I will never build my own pc again.
If you buy one from dell or hp, all the components work good, they are tuned on eachother and the system works stable.

llamalord · « **Reply #87 on:** August 12, 2009, 14:21:11 »

Quote from: Firestar on August 11, 2009, 23:31:11

Operating System: Windows 7, or WinXP (Or both with partitioning) and just for the record, I would never do garbage Vista.
Processor: AMD Dual Core 3.0 GHz
Ram: 3 GB (After update, starting out with 2 GB)
Graphics Card: GeForce GTS 250
Hard Drive: 640 GB
Power supply: 450W

I think from my past attempts that that current setup will run ship simulator on average at about 15-20 FPS. I think the one difference that could make the biggest improvement would be upgrading to at least 4 or five GBs of Random Access Memory. I have 8 GB in my new computer and I just ordered another 4 GB slots worth.

TNeves · « **Reply #88 on:** August 12, 2009, 14:48:09 »

AMD dual core is not a good choice. If you want a dual core Intel is the choice. AMD have a triple core CPU that is a very good choice too. You can see here AMD CPUs:

http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUResult.aspx

The problem about Intel is that they will change the socket and the technology, replacing 775 socket with the 1156 and some other changes.

To play ShipSim 4GB is enough, there is no need for 8GB. 64bit Windows 7 is a very good choice, with at least 4GB of RAM, it's going to be a very good system!

Capt. Matt · « **Reply #89 on:** August 12, 2009, 17:37:52 »

I recently read an artical that XP will become obsolete not letting programs run on it therefore causing everyone to go from XP to either vista or 7 so just go to 7 I reckon

firestar12 · « **Reply #90 on:** August 12, 2009, 20:21:04 »

I might do windows 7 though. This PC won't be in existence till next year though...plenty of time.

llamalord · « **Reply #91 on:** August 12, 2009, 21:24:32 »

Quote from: Capt. Matt on August 12, 2009, 17:37:52

I recently read an artical that XP will become obsolete not letting programs run on it therefore causing everyone to go from XP to either vista or 7 so just go to 7 I reckon

Yes but you can't believe everything you read on the internet...

Master Captain · « **Reply #92 on:** August 13, 2009, 01:57:47 »

yea really, i believe there is people that still run windows 98, or 2000, XP wont be obsolete for a long time, businesses and schools still use XP as its the only reliable system currently. Who knows when windows 7 will be out for the public. A certain source has told me its only released to the PC makers, and besides windows 7 is to look almost exactly the same as windows vista so i really dont see why you wont use it, i thought it would be junk and its good.

llamalord · « **Reply #93 on:** August 13, 2009, 13:50:32 »

Let me tell you, I was a vista hater for a long time, now I have vista on Three of the Twenty Eight computers in my house. It's not quite as bad as I thought but it is really annoying!!!

The worst part is the random power ups in the middle of the night to install updates.

And the other one is the fact that it warns you that it is going to warn you about something.

Master Captain · « **Reply #94 on:** August 13, 2009, 16:45:25 »

ok dude, you need to get rid of about 25 computers, unless your mom/dad works at a computer repair shop or something you've got waaayyyyy too many computers

llamalord · « **Reply #95 on:** August 13, 2009, 17:51:34 »

Nope, My dad is an Electrical Engineer, doesn't even do all that much in the electrical standpoint anymore.

firestar12 · « **Reply #96 on:** August 13, 2009, 23:06:18 »

NO SUCH THING AS TOO MANY COMPUTERS.
EDIT: Should I go with Dual Core or Single Core?

TNeves · « **Reply #97 on:** August 13, 2009, 23:16:28 »

Quote from: Firestar on August 13, 2009, 23:06:18

NO SUCH THING AS TOO MANY COMPUTERS.
EDIT: Should I go with Dual Core or Single Core?

Dual Core, if Intel E8400. Single Core is dead...

Master Captain · « **Reply #98 on:** August 13, 2009, 23:36:01 »

dual core for sure, single core is absolutly worthless

Go intel

llamalord · « **Reply #99 on:** August 14, 2009, 00:39:33 »

Agreed

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