Topic: I might construct a computer. (Read 45118 times)

Master Captain · « **Reply #25 on:** August 05, 2009, 20:41:22 »

Quote from: Capt. Matt on August 05, 2009, 12:31:26

My uncle did

exactly matt you didn't build it

Agreed jack, you need to know how big of a power supply to get and there is an amount of plug in wires and cables and such. Hardest part is if you have to put the processor on the mother board!

Capt. Matt · « **Reply #26 on:** August 06, 2009, 02:41:09 »

Yea well I watched...anyways I agree he said it is best to have a place do it that way if you plug it in and the motherboard fries you have a warrenty and you dont need to bang your head against the wall because you fried an expensive motherboard

Master Captain · « **Reply #27 on:** August 06, 2009, 03:20:50 »

yes, but if you know what you're doing that shouldn't happen

Sam · « **Reply #28 on:** August 06, 2009, 10:41:36 »

I did it a few times and I'll never do it again.

In these days it is verry cheap to chose the components you want and then let someone from a computer store build your pc and install all the software.

Installing the software yourself will bring nothing but trouble.
I allready had a lot of moments when I wanted to smash my pc into bits and pieces biceaus one driver was ruining everything ect.

So my advice, don't do it unless you really know what you are doing.

You can allso make a good pc at www.dell.com

Captain Spencer · « **Reply #29 on:** August 06, 2009, 11:10:59 »

A custom PC can actually run better than if it was bought from a shop, especially places like dell!

All these companies budles rediculous amounts of software on the system that eventually it takes up space and gets on your nerves. My Girlfriends laptop is massively plastered with DELL everywhere and trial version of Mc Afee and all sorts. Now, she gets loads of popups saying register this, do that!

To be honest I'd rather build my own computer (so long as you know how) and install the software I WANT, not what companies want me to.

Master Captain · « **Reply #30 on:** August 06, 2009, 21:51:51 »

thats why i hate dell, they fill their computers with loads of useless junk

HP is alot better, i've had 2 (my desktop and laptop) and they're great machines and they dont come with much junk either

(warning: austin has been know to attest to HP

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firestar12 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 06, 2009, 21:56:17 »

Yes, because all of HP's startup programs are so not junk, like "HP Advisor" which takes 2,500 K to run when you start up. I hate HP.

TJK · « **Reply #32 on:** August 06, 2009, 22:19:28 »

Here you have som good links for building PC
http://www.daileyint.com/build/
http://www.buildeasypc.com/
http://www.pcmech.com/byopc/

the most important are to ground you self so noting will be demages by static eltricks, all components in a pc are weary sensetive

firestar12 · « **Reply #33 on:** August 08, 2009, 23:28:25 »

Ok, I have begun to spec out the PC.

Operating System: Windows 7, or WinXP (Or both with partitioning)
Processor: At least 5.5 GHz
Ram: Depending on how many bit system it is, 2.5 - 4 GB
Graphics Card: GeForce 9800
Hard Drive: 1 TB

Ok, that is all my basic stuff, does anyone know if that would be possible? Also, please understand that I did not go into complex matters, but if any could tell me if this is practical, let me know. Also, should I go with a Pentium or AMD processor?

saltydog · « **Reply #34 on:** August 08, 2009, 23:32:46 »

I would go for one of the newer nVidia cards, one in the 200GTX range, if I wanted to splurge..

firestar12 · « **Reply #35 on:** August 08, 2009, 23:33:14 »

Alright, will note that. Is that good for shipsim?

saltydog · « **Reply #36 on:** August 08, 2009, 23:41:37 »

Just kidding Firestar, the 9800 will do very nicely (just saying there are newer cards now)..

firestar12 · « **Reply #37 on:** August 08, 2009, 23:59:32 »

Wait a second, when VSTEP said "Pentium 4 2.0GHz or AMD equivalent" did they mean a 2.0 processor? So would a 3.0> work for the game?

Master Captain · « **Reply #38 on:** August 09, 2009, 00:08:34 »

when they say Intel Pentium 4 2.0ghz thats referring to the speed, as far as your thoughts about a 5.5ghz processor i have 2 expressions

a processor of that speed just does not exist right now the highested your can expect without overclocking is around 3.2ghz, 5.5ghz is just way out of the question. Windows 7 is released on a limited basis right now (mainly to the pc makers) So you'd be going with XP right now. 32 bit systems take up to 3gb of Ram, 64 bit is required for anything more. For the g-card you want a 9800, so the most powerful will be the NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GX2 which uses 1gb of shared memory, so make sure you've got plenty of ram. 1TB of HD space is absolutely insane, i suggest you re think that idea and decide if you really need all that space...

firestar12 · « **Reply #39 on:** August 09, 2009, 00:11:00 »

Nothing wrong with too much space, eh?

And they DO sell Hard Drives with 1 TB. So for the processor, would this be good enough?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116027

Master Captain · « **Reply #40 on:** August 09, 2009, 00:15:28 »

yes i know hard drives are made with 1 terra byte of space

For the processor i suggest alot more as thats only a single core and its just barely above the requirement, I'd reccomend atleast an Intel Core 2 duo or better

firestar12 · « **Reply #41 on:** August 09, 2009, 00:18:01 »

But...I thought that single cores were better than multiple cores?

Capt. Matt · « **Reply #42 on:** August 09, 2009, 00:24:46 »

Yes and no... as terry has told me Not all programs can 2 cores so I would say duel is best he said otherwise say a quad core is just a waste of money unless your doing something crazy Wholy **** 5.5 GHZ are you working for nasa?

The most ive seen was 3.2GHz my uncle has a 3.0GHz there is no need to spend that much money though I have a 2.8 Duel and that runs it perfectely no issues whatsoever Oh and may I reccommend a good motherboard...a ases P5Q pro

EDIT I'd say intel never had a problem with them so if it aint broken dont fix it

also Id sayto go for intels CORE processors rather then pentium

TNeves · « **Reply #43 on:** August 09, 2009, 00:25:23 »

Well 5.5Ghz is not something possible to buy

About the graphic card, why a 9800? Try the new GTX275 excellent value for money, around 200â‚¬, and way better than the 9800.

Today you have two different good choices, concerning the CPU maker. AMD with the new Phenon X4 Quad Core CPUs, and Intel with the Core i7 (more will come, like Core i9, i5 and i3). Intel i7 is more expensive, but with more performance, and AMD has a very good performance with lower prices.

Let me just point this, Intel X58 allows SLI and CrossfireX, but first you need to be sure if your motherboard supports it.

As I said before, and there always some misunderstand about that, the 2.4Ghz Pentium is worst than a 2.1Ghz C2D 6400, like mine, frequency isn't everything. Intel changed the CPU architecture, adding more cores, speeding the FSB, increasing cache etc creating a less consuming and more powerful CPU.

One last advise, don't buy a crappy power supply, buy PSU from makers like Corsair, Seasonic, Enermax, OCZ, PC Power&Cooling, Be Quiet, Silverstone.

TJK · « **Reply #44 on:** August 09, 2009, 03:59:02 »

And don't forget the Power supply PSU you need a real big one to run that system atleest CHIEFTEC PSU Super Series 1200W ATX 12V and bdw a cpu Exstreem from intell the biggest today are INTEL CPU Core i7 Extreme 975 3.33GHz S-1366 6.4GT/sec 8MB Boxed it cost about 8500 nok it's about 1100 USD

firestar12 · « **Reply #45 on:** August 09, 2009, 15:24:48 »

Ok, this leaves the PC Specs at this thanks to you guys and some of my friends!

Operating System: Windows 7, or WinXP (Or both with partitioning)
Processor: AMD Dual Core 3.0 GHz
Ram: 3 GB
Graphics Card: GeForce 9800
Hard Drive: 730 GB

Capt. Matt · « **Reply #46 on:** August 09, 2009, 15:31:13 »

Why only 3 gbs of ram id say 4gb

firestar12 · « **Reply #47 on:** August 09, 2009, 15:35:17 »

A 32 bit system can't see 4 GB.

Capt. Matt · « **Reply #48 on:** August 09, 2009, 15:36:46 »

yea it can it cant see more than 4 though
At least Im pretty sure

TJK · « **Reply #49 on:** August 09, 2009, 15:42:43 »

Quote from: Capt. Matt on August 09, 2009, 15:36:46

yea it can it cant see more than 4 though
At least Im pretty sure

Sorry matt 32 bit system can only see and use about 3.4GB memory, if you us a 64 bit system then you motherboard are the limit

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