Topic: Greenpeace or Sea Shepherd? (Read 27161 times)

Minime · « **Reply #25 on:** July 01, 2009, 22:20:08 »

how about you look at it from another angle, the green peace vessel is something the sim needs, I'm not very keen either on any of the organizations, but I like that they add the green peace vessel, because of what boat it is, not who owns it.

Jammy · « **Reply #26 on:** July 02, 2009, 01:38:58 »

Quote from: justin36220 on July 01, 2009, 21:49:13

I absoulutly dispise both organisation and dont want to see eaither ship in SS10 but especially not Sea Sheaperds piracy is a hanging crime so why not hang Capt.Paul is his whole dang crew what they do is wrong

-Justin
(norwegian whaling decent)

So you agree in the slaughter of 1000 whales in a Whaling sanctuary for "research" that is just a loophole in an IWC agreement so that they can sell whale meat?

Capt. Matt · « **Reply #27 on:** July 02, 2009, 01:44:59 »

Well Jammy your sig kinda shows your side

matt5674 · « **Reply #28 on:** July 02, 2009, 02:20:49 »

Quote from: justin36220 on July 01, 2009, 21:49:13

I absoulutly dispise both organisation and dont want to see eaither ship in SS10 but especially not Sea Sheaperds piracy is a hanging crime so why not hang Capt.Paul is his whole dang crew what they do is wrong

-Justin
(norwegian whaling decent)

Too late. Esperanza is already built in Ship Simulator 2010. So your wish for both not to be included is Denied. ( think I was brainwashed by Terry

)

firestar12 · « **Reply #29 on:** July 02, 2009, 02:32:03 »

While I am not saying it will be included, how do YOU know it won't be included? I'm not saying I support the idea, (I don't actually) but how do you know for SURE? Are you some sort of VSTEP specialist? Are you there in the office everyday watching them do it? Also,

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So your wish for both not to be included is Denied

I did not know you are building the game...

matt5674 · « **Reply #30 on:** July 02, 2009, 02:51:02 »

I said that because the Esperanza is already in SS10 but I know cause I say the trailer of it and a pic of it.

firestar12 · « **Reply #31 on:** July 02, 2009, 02:53:36 »

I'm saying how do you know for sure that there won't be a sea sheperd?

matt5674 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 02, 2009, 02:58:29 »

It is a anti-Friendly ship. It hunts WHALES for money. Northern Star is fishing for food products so it is okay, but the Sea Sheperd is bad. plus, Ship Simulator 2010 won't have whales for the Sea Sheperd to hunt

Minime · « **Reply #33 on:** July 02, 2009, 03:04:12 »

what you mean Sea Shepard hunts whales? It is also a anti whaling organization, just much more violent than Green peace

justin36220 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 02, 2009, 03:13:58 »

Quote from: Minime on July 01, 2009, 22:20:08

how about you look at it from another angle, the green peace vessel is something the sim needs, I'm not very keen either on any of the organizations, but I like that they add the green peace vessel, because of what boat it is, not who owns it.

your right it is the boat not the oranization that operates it I mean they are nice boats the Steve Irwin would make a helluva nice tuna boat They got that retractible hanger I bet that would make half the captains I know happy

-Justin
George's Bank Lobsterman

justin36220 · « **Reply #35 on:** July 02, 2009, 03:39:03 »

Quote from: Jammy on July 02, 2009, 01:38:58

So you agree in the slaughter of 1000 whales in a Whaling sanctuary for "research" that is just a loophole in an IWC agreement so that they can sell whale meat?

Im not one to pick a fight but i guess i did so ill defend my POV first im gonna guess your not a fisherman but I am and let me tell you how hard it is to make a living from the sea wheter lobstering whaling crabing longline fishing it is dangerous and the last thing these people need is a crazed lunatic attempting to ram them ask your self is a boat full of people (japanese) really worth a couple of whales ill awnser for you no its not because I know what happens out at sea and will highlight some of the risk sea sheaperd imposes prop fouler should that get in the prop and the engine dies then the weather picks up you turn broadside to the wave Capt Paul just KILLED a whole ship full of people (raming risk is obvious ive said my peice and im sure youll say yours

Jammy · « **Reply #36 on:** July 02, 2009, 11:08:30 »

Quote from: justin36220 on July 02, 2009, 03:39:03

Im not one to pick a fight but i guess i did so ill defend my POV first im gonna guess your not a fisherman but I am and let me tell you how hard it is to make a living from the sea wheter lobstering whaling crabing longline fishing it is dangerous and the last thing these people need is a crazed lunatic attempting to ram them ask your self is a boat full of people (japanese) really worth a couple of whales ill awnser for you no its not because I know what happens out at sea and will highlight some of the risk sea sheaperd imposes prop fouler should that get in the prop and the engine dies then the weather picks up you turn broadside to the wave Capt Paul just KILLED a whole ship full of people (raming risk is obvious ive said my peice and im sure youll say yours

Well this is kind of a coincidence, because Sea Shepherd made an article about the issues of safety a few days ago. And let me show you this bit of evidence.
Members of the Whaling Fleet that Sea Shepherd injured = 0
Members of Sea Shepherd that the Whaling Fleet injured = 5
Members of the Whaling Fleet that died whilst whaling = 3
Members of Sea Shepherd that died whilst saving the world = 0

Now tell me, which one is the more violent side?

And as for the whaling industry, it might of been good a few centuries ago, but we're in a world that whaling doesn't belong anymore. You're right when you say you can make a living out of the sea with lobsters, crabbing and long line fishing. But Whales are an endangered species, killing 1000 a year is barbaric. I admit that whaling built the markets of a lot of countries, it built the port of Hull which is very close to me to the standards it is now. But considering Japan's wonderful economy which is advanced greatly to the technological market, I don't see why they should need to whale at all, it's pathetic.

justin36220 · « **Reply #37 on:** July 02, 2009, 15:42:13 »

ok my point is go after the fleets ofices not the fleet not the people just trying to make a living

Nathan|C · « **Reply #38 on:** July 02, 2009, 17:10:21 »

Quote from: matt5674 on July 02, 2009, 02:58:29

plus, Ship Simulator 2010 won't have whales for the Sea Sheperd to hunt

You know this how?

saltydog · « **Reply #39 on:** July 02, 2009, 18:12:32 »

Back on topic: one ship looks like a vessel Darth Vader would command, and the other of course is Luke Skywalker's..
I think the Esperanza looks nicer than the Steve Irwin..

Capt. Matt · « **Reply #40 on:** July 02, 2009, 18:41:34 »

darth vader

as I said before Sea Shepoard li=ooks Bad a** Esperanza looks well cute so I would rather be captain on sea shepoard in the game... I dont know I think they may proote ramming

prussianseas · « **Reply #41 on:** July 03, 2009, 05:10:20 »

Quote from: Capt. Matt on July 02, 2009, 18:41:34

darth vader as I said before Sea Shepoard li=ooks Bad a** Esperanza looks well cute so I would rather be captain on sea shepoard in the game... I dont know I think they may proote ramming

I agree i vote sea sheppard since it looks tyte and BA

. But the esperanza looks well kinda um..... well queer like it's a gay pride boat, no offence.

Mad_Fred · « **Reply #42 on:** July 03, 2009, 06:21:31 »

So that means gay equals bad?

That disclaimer doesn't exaclty make it any less offensive, to be really honest.

Welcome to the forums.. but please.. leave the bigotry at the doorstep. Cheers!

Regards,
Fred

TerryRussell · « **Reply #43 on:** July 03, 2009, 21:22:57 »

I think it best to NOT restart old wars. Link removed.

dudwasup · « **Reply #44 on:** July 03, 2009, 21:44:29 »

this is bull **** terry ive seen some bad video links in the joke post and nothing happens to them god its a little harsh to bann after 1 incedent if you ban him then u better ban me for two weeks

let matt back on

Biggles1975 · « **Reply #45 on:** July 18, 2009, 01:23:19 »

Well done saltydog glad to see someone knew the name of the sea shepherd's ship

The Steve Irwin looks more fitting to a war game painted all black like that. I wonder what his family must think if they ever watched whale wars. But the greenpeace ships are more colourful and more fitting for shipsim.

firestar12 · « **Reply #46 on:** July 19, 2009, 00:53:35 »

^ I agree.
I watched that show last night and they were trying to preform a prop fowl on another whaling vessel. Really for no good reasons other than their paranoia. It ended hilariously when they tried to two or three times and it didn't work and then the whaling vessel's crew pull the net out of the water...

Also, the crew is very inexperienced, they hire some of them right off of the dock and most of them have no maritime experience whatsoever. For example last night when I saw it (I was watching it to see what I could post here about it), the crew didn't listen closely to the captains order and did the wrong attack when the time came, and when the captain ordered them to come back in the RIB boat, because of a storm rising, the crew didn't listen and wanted to wave goodbye to the whaling ship as a joke, causing them to get out of visual contact with their mother ship, and they eventually lost communications. The whole organization is hard to take seriously.

MrFlappy102 · « **Reply #47 on:** July 20, 2009, 05:24:25 »

I don't really care how they do it, I'm just glad someone is doing something about whaling!

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #48 on:** July 20, 2009, 11:07:21 »

Whats all the fuss about whales for anyway?

I went there last month and it rained all weekend. That said, there were a few spectacular mountains to look at.

MrFlappy102 · « **Reply #49 on:** July 20, 2009, 15:47:14 »

Ha ha, but i don't think we were discussing the place Whales.

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Which would you prefer to be in SS10

Author Topic: Greenpeace or Sea Shepherd? (Read 27161 times)

matt5674

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firestar12

matt5674

Nathan|C

TerryRussell

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