Ship Simulator
English forum => Vessel Design Group general => Development corner => Active Projects => Topic started by: MMMMMM on July 09, 2008, 10:28:58
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This Horn Pack will be devloped by: Trains, Llamalord, MrRoboville & Me
Some of you are asking for a Fog horn We hope to see this Horn Pack in a Future Update with a key for a Fog horn Thankyou we will keep u updated As of now We are working on Steamtugboat Furies Fog Whistle, Pushboats Fog Horn and Vermass Fog Horn is Done
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good luck with the project, looking forward to see it done
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Thanks
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here is a small sample of Vermass Fog Horn
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I like that horn
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Thanks
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Cool MMMMMM i love the sound
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We've discussed your proposal and have come to the conclusion that it would be a nice addition to SS08, so go right ahead with your Fog Horn pack and keep us posted.
Kind regards,
Frank
This Morning i got this Messege From Frank And read what it says This means its OFFical we are going to be makeing the fog horn Pack Me, Trains, LLamalord, MrRoboville and IRI5HJ4CK will now be making the pack now Here is a another Horn This will be the last Sample
And tell me wich one you like best Titanic or Vermass
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great News MMMMMM! i hope the pack will be good. and you did got IRISHJACK with you. :D Good luck!
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Ok Somebody what Ship could this go to i cant Figure It Out
Tell me what ship it would best fit please help cause your going to make it work
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Ok Somebody what Ship could this go to i cant Figure It Out
Tell me what ship it would best fit please help cause your going to make it work
Elbe? Furie. Agile Soulation?
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Not Furie That Ship will have a Fog Whistle Some Ships wont get a Fog Horn Like
P6, Pilot Boat or Arie Adviser any small ships all big ships will have them i have the Perfect Ocean Star One
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Err... I don't want to sound stupid, but the big ships allready have pretty nice horns. Well, that is, if you are using the hornpack that Terry and I made. ::)
;D
Fred
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Err... I don't want to sound stupid, but the big ships allready have pretty nice horns. Well, that is, if you are using the hornpack that Terry and I made. ::)
;D
Fred
Yea. but it need FOG horn to boat
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Hello,
Perhaps a question of vocabulary, but foghorns are navigation aids to be used to warn ships of the danger, sound devices emitting specific patterns at low frequencies. Ships have whistles, and also carry in their spare equipment sound devices to be used should the main whistles be down, sometimes (improperly?) called foghorns.
Is the device that you intend creating not more or less redundant?
Regards,
Luc
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what Its Just Fog Horn For the Big ships the small ones wont have one there horn alredy have loud enough horns
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I think Agile Soulution
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how would be be abule to use both horns
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theyre going to add "F" key for Fog horn
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theyre going to add "F" key for Fog horn
Say who, when?
You just made that up, didn't you? ;D
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well thats what were hopeing to do I told Frank thats what we wanna do not replace your pack but Add Fog Horn Key "F" hopefully
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I suggest that you don't say things will be when there is no promise of such a thing. You'll only get people disappointed hwen it doesn't happen. :)
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Hello,
What I told was probably not clear enough: There are no "Foghorns" aboard ships.
Bells and whistles are used in low visibility situations, and the foghorns that you listen to in the mist, are those coming from The Needles, Nab Tower (both 2 sounds every 30 sec) or other Calshot (1 each 20s) lights, to stay in Shingles or the Solent.
So that there is no need of an F key, the default H is more than enough. But of course you can also ask for an orchestra on board, and use an O key for that.
Also, an example of diaphone (http://homepages.manx.net/fredd/diaphone.html), kind of foghorn too. And Portland Bill (http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=bdi7t475F0s&feature=related)...
Regards,
Luc
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may be you didnt read the meessge from frank it realy dosnt matter what you think
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Well, I know nothing of that, but I know that there are whistles on board of ships and no Fog horns.
My answer was to this
Yea. but it need FOG horn to boat
Making a second user soundpack for the game is surely nice, but I wanted to remind that the Colregs tell all what ships have to do at sea regarding bad visibility, (as do inland regulations too). Your rudeness is as unnecessary as your proposal is superfluous.
may be you didnt read the meessge from frank it realy dosnt matter what you think
Regards,
Luc
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I wasnt trying to be rude sorry :D
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You can't have horns and fog horns in the game, installing these would overwrite the old horns :-\
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not of Vstep approvs to include "F" to sound Fog Horn
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not of Vstep approvs to include "F" to sound Fog Horn
Witch they WON'T because they have better things to do then fiddle with worthless ****. Maybe the development of shipyard ships and SS09/10 would be a better decision. Instead of spending worthless hours on something no one will ever use.
Sorry to sink your boat but it is a dumb idea. I hate to say it but, grow up, you act like your 5.
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Witch they WON'T because they have better things to do then fiddle with worthless ****. Maybe the development of shipyard ships and SS09/10 would be a better decision. Instead of spending worthless hours on something no one will ever use.
Sorry to sink your boat but it is a dumb idea. I hate to say it but, grow up, you act like your 5.
Oh nice, just dash the ideas of 3 people..Have some manners.........
ok, it's ok to voice your opinion, but something constructive instead of plain rude would help..how about
"I don't think they would do that in SS2008 but maybe if you keep developing until SS2009 it would be nice for the shipyard"
Grow up, at least hes trying to make something for our entertainment ;)
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Thaanks Nathan but Frank emailed Me it would be a nice adition to SS08 He disscused it with vstep and there very intrested in this Fog Horn Pack and adding "F" key please dont be mean :'(
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Well aren't we all the best of friends here! ;D
Seriously, there's no need for harsh comments, I think.
I'll throw in my 2 cents. There probably will not be an extra foghorn button, nor an additional horn for each ship. If you look at LucAtC's input, you might see why. I think Frank meant that a horn pack would make a nice addition, just like the allready released pack did.
Plus, it's not just a matter of "just making a new keystroke". You have to link it to the horns, make it play the correct sound sample, etc.. I wont pretend I know about that programming, but it would take some time and effort to make it happen.
On the other hand of course, user created content like that is very welcome, then people can choose which horns they want to use for their ships, can customise their game, etc.. So that's a good thing for sure.
But it would probably be a replacement pack, not an additional horn. But that should not stop you from creating it, obviously.
Austin, please mind the language if you will.. if you have to censor yourself with asterisks, it was probably not such a good thing to write in the first place. censored swearing is still a form of swearing, you could easily write a more friendly word there instead. ;)
Cheers guys,
Regards,
Fred
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thank you mad fred
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Hi chaps.
Good luck with the foghorns.
A few things that you need to bear in mind that may make things go easier:
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When you make the sounds, try testing them on systems with small speakers and por-quality sound systems as well as with ultra hi-fi systems. With horns, a lot of the energy is in the low frequencies So the horn will sound quiet on a poor-quality system. If you try to increase the volume, it will merely distort.
There is no perfect balance. Some sounds on some systems won't be as good as you'd like.
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Bear in mind the Maritime regulations bearing frequency as an indication of vessel size. Bigger vessels have deeper sounds.
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Very importantly, remember that you can't simply trawl (pun!) the internet and record other people's sounds. The person who recrded them (or possiby the site where you obtained them) owns the copyright. If your sounds are not your own work, Vstep won't be able to use them, or else they could be in breach of ciopyright.
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When you're perfectly happy with them, let someone else play with them and then be ready to change it all again!
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Hope this is of some use.
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Fellas, there is no need to be rude. We're all adult people with a passion for the same game, so keep it civilized.
Let me clarify the situation, so you guys can go ahead and develop something nice!
We at VSTEP very much approve the idea of user generated content. The most important rule for user generated content is that the content should be in sync with the realism of Ship Simulator 2008. As you are undoubtedly well aware, before you start developing, you should do research about ships and their fog signalisations. Like Luc rightly mentioned, most ships have only one horn and so it is not necessary to develop a new horn.
We don't want to replace the current horns and the new user created horn sounds pack by TerryRussell, as they are really very nice.
It would be very nice and an excellent addition however to develop the fog systems aboard these ships (bells, whistles, etc.) when they have one besides a standard horn, and that would add to the realism very nicely. And yes, in that case we would add an 'F' key to be used for that.
Once again, we've already got horns, but if a ship has a secondary fog alarm like a bell, whistle, or even a second dedicated fog horn besides the standard horn, it would make a nice addition to the game. It is however imperative, that before developing you make sure the fog systems you develop for a ship are in fact the real systems used. As long as it is the case, we'll be more than happy to make this fog patch available for the community and add even more realism to the Shipsim.
I hope this clears up the matter.
Kind regards,
Frank
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Thankyou Frank Thankyou Verry much
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Im not negative with this. i hope this will be added. I have no problems with it. If you have problems. why not leave install the fog horn pack. and to they wanna have Fog horn pack install it. isnt it so easy?
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Sorry to bring up the topic of rude members again but i wasn't being rude, i was just protecting what i think is a nice idea for the game ;)
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NAthan C, Captain Best and Frank are being nice but read what Austain Said
Witch they WON'T because they have better things to do then fiddle with worthless ****. Maybe the development of shipyard ships and SS09/10 would be a better decision. Instead of spending worthless hours on something no one will ever use.
Sorry to sink your boat but it is a dumb idea. I hate to say it but, grow up, you act like your 5.
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I know, read just after Austins comment, i made it clear what we all think of his amazingly rude comment ;)
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I know, read just after Austins comment, i made it clear what we all think of his amazingly rude comment ;)
I am glad you find my comment amazing.
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I am glad you find my comment amazing.
In the wrong way.......read my comments again, you may notice it the second time.
End of discussion, no comment on anything else in this topic for me.
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C'mon chaps! Lighten up. Whether anyone likes these sounds or the idea of the sounds, or not, no-one will die from it. No-one will become ill or get injured. In fact, if they're good, people will enjoy them.
Anything that adds to the sum of human happiness is welcome! ;D
Look out. Outbreak of smilies: :) :D ;D ;D :D :) ;D ;D
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C'mon chaps! Lighten up. Whether anyone likes these sounds or the idea of the sounds, or not, no-one will die from it. No-one will become ill or get injured. In fact, if they're good, people will enjoy them.
Anything that adds to the sum of human happiness is welcome! ;D
Look out. Outbreak of smilies: :) :D ;D ;D :D :) ;D ;D
Comptely agree, i was just wondering why Agent thought otherwise :)
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Hi Nathan.
As this is about bells and whistles and smilies, can you smile and whistle at the same time? ;D ;D
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Look out. Outbreak of smilies: :) :D ;D ;D :D :) ;D ;D
REPORTED!!! :D :P ;D
As this is about bells and whistles and smilies, can you smile and whistle at the same time? ;D ;D
I can't whistle so no. :P
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Hi Nathan.
As this is about bells and whistles and smilies, can you smile and whistle at the same time? ;D ;D
I can try ;D
Actually, no, i can't whistle and i find it difficult to smile too ::)
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REPORTED!!! :D :P ;D
I can't whistle so no. :P
Ah, well it wasn't a post that consisted entirely of smilies, so it would be wrong to report it. I'd hate to end up telling myself off. I'd have to pig out on marmite sandwiches... (There! Mentioned it in this thread!)
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marmite sandwiches...
Yuck.
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That's not a great inducement, to be honest.
To me, ramming is an absolute betrayal of every seafarer that risks their life on the waters and of every seafarer that has lost their life while working on the seas.
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I apologise, didn't mean to cause any upset :-[
As you can tell i sometimes suck at having a conversation without offending anyone :(
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Hey Nathan.
No offence taken, my friend. I was just explaining why I don't do the ramming. It's a personal view only.
Your contributions (and Agent|Austins) are greatly welcomed by me and I find them generally interesting and intelligent.
No need to have erased your kind offer to let me sink you in exchange for marmite sandwiches! ;D
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How are the foghorns progressing?
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Verry Well acualty very well
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Well aren't we all the best of friends here! ;D
Seriously, there's no need for harsh comments, I think.
I'll throw in my 2 cents. There probably will not be an extra foghorn button, nor an additional horn for each ship. If you look at LucAtC's input, you might see why. I think Frank meant that a horn pack would make a nice addition, just like the allready released pack did.
Plus, it's not just a matter of "just making a new keystroke". You have to link it to the horns, make it play the correct sound sample, etc.. I wont pretend I know about that programming, but it would take some time and effort to make it happen.
On the other hand of course, user created content like that is very welcome, then people can choose which horns they want to use for their ships, can customise their game, etc.. So that's a good thing for sure.
But it would probably be a replacement pack, not an additional horn. But that should not stop you from creating it, obviously.
Austin, please mind the language if you will.. if you have to censor yourself with asterisks, it was probably not such a good thing to write in the first place. censored swearing is still a form of swearing, you could easily write a more friendly word there instead. ;)
Cheers guys,
Regards,
Fred
Well said Fred!!!!
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How's it goin with the Fog Horn Pack?
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Hmmmmm, i was wondering, as Frank said earlier, is it worth me developing other things that ships have, like the sound of the bell on the Igor k?
Jack.
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i tweaked the sound what ''we-don't-know-were-to-add-it-to''
i made a bass in it and changed the tone height, this could be a nice sound for the ocean star or the latitude
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i tweaked the sound what ''we-don't-know-were-to-add-it-to''
i made a bass in it and changed the tone height, this could be a nice sound for the ocean star or the latitude
Nice horn Mr Robville. i love it. its perfect to Ocean Star ;D
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Nice horn indeed, but a bit on the high pitch side for a vessel as big as the Ocean Star, I think.
One little note; for people to use it, it has to be a .wav file, so to save users the work of converting it, it might be nicer to offer it here allready as a .wav so they can rename it, and stick it in their game.
Nicely done!
Fred
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thanks you like it ;D
i can modify it a bit, and try making it longer.
the reason why i upload mp3 formats is because it's smaller, ofcourse if you guys want i can post wav. files here ;)
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I'm part of this project and I didn't even see this topic until today! ;D
I gotta get to work. :-\
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I'm part of this project and I didn't even see this topic until today! ;D
I gotta get to work. :-\
haha. off you to work ;D
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No, I have been working just not over night. ;)
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i tweaked the sound what ''we-don't-know-were-to-add-it-to''
i made a bass in it and changed the tone height, this could be a nice sound for the ocean star or the latitude
that are more horn for vermasse i think
TJK
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I'd love to share my "Red Jet" horn with you guys but I just PM-ed MMMMMM and told him about it so I don't know if he wants me to yet. :-\
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Hmmmmm, i was wondering, as Frank said earlier, is it worth me developing other things that ships have, like the sound of the bell on the Igor k?
Jack.
Hiya Jack, a bit late with the reply, but I missed that post of yours initially.... Yes it's worth it indeed, and actually, if you read Frank's comment again, it would actually only be worth doing the sound systems things a ship might have, if you aim for these things to be released as an official patch, like the horn pack Terry and I did. Because the normal horns are allready present.
Of course you can always make a normal horn pack too, to replace the current ones, but then you'd have to just release it on the forum, as Frank mentioned they did not really want to replace the ones we have now.
Untill now, I've not seen anything to do with foghorns or secondary sound systems as such, but merely seen and heard about the 'normal' horns.
Which is of course cool aswell, the more stuff users have to play around with, the better, but if you guys want to make a patch that VSTEP will release officially, you'll have to focus on secondary systems rather than normal horns.
Here's a bit of what Frank said to recap;
....Like Luc rightly mentioned, most ships have only one horn and so it is not necessary to develop a new horn.
We don't want to replace the current horns and the new user created horn sounds pack by TerryRussell, as they are really very nice.
It would be very nice and an excellent addition however to develop the fog systems aboard these ships (bells, whistles, etc.) when they have one besides a standard horn, and that would add to the realism very nicely. And yes, in that case we would add an 'F' key to be used for that.
Once again, we've already got horns, but if a ship has a secondary fog alarm like a bell, whistle, or even a second dedicated fog horn besides the standard horn, it would make a nice addition to the game. It is however imperative, that before developing you make sure the fog systems you develop for a ship are in fact the real systems used. As long as it is the case, we'll be more than happy to make this fog patch available for the community and add even more realism to the Shipsim.
So yeah, the secondary systems would be very nice to have indeed. It would make a great addition!! :)
Regards,
Fred
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I went and re-did the Furie's Fog Horn just to get out another version and see which one you guys like better. :-\
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This "re-done" Furiehorn is really nice. I like ship horns that are very deep pitched and "boomy" like the classic trans-atlantic liners. Now if somone could replicate QE2's whistles that would really be nice.
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This "re-done" Furiehorn is really nice. I like ship horns that are very deep pitched and "boomy" like the classic trans-atlantic liners. Now if somone could replicate QE2's whistles that would really be nice.
Why would anyone do that as QE2 is not in SS08??
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that would make a great horn for furie llamalord
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Thanks, That is what I was shooting for. ;)
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It may just be wishful thinking but I've already made a horn for my new ship "The Iron Flounder"-in the active projects section.
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Nice Fog hors sounds everyone. ;)
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One Ocean Star Fog Horn. ;)
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One Ocean Star Fog Horn. ;)
I did like it very much. ;) :D
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Thanks
Please make Ocean Star's Loud. Like not too loud. Just not as quite as its horn is.
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It may just be wishful thinking but I've already made a horn for my new ship "The Iron Flounder"-in the active projects section.
this i like as ocean star horn
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When is the horn Pack Expect to be finish :)
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well me and lamalord are working very hard testing and changeing file so expected by the end of Nov.
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Sorry for the delay guys but Here is the line up So far
Mr.Roboviles Horn for Ocean Star will be used in Vermass & Laditude
Lamalords Iron Flounder Horn will be for Ocean Star
Lamalords Ocean Star Horn will be for Agile Soulution
Lamalords Furie is Furie
MMMMMMs Boat Horn02 will be Push boat
MMMMMMs Vermas horn will be for P&O and Jumbo Javelin
So there is a total of seven ships that will get thease Fog Horns
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Ok Guys TOPIC CLOSED FILL FREE TO CELEBRATE WE FINISHED THE FOG HORN PACK WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!1 :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'( :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'( YHA WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Thanks every One for the support the Project was by
Mr.Roboville
Lamalord
MMMMMM
Thankyou
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If you guys want it email me at 995789@gmail.com or you can pm me your email
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You wanna just email it to me, if you view my profile, my email address is not hidden, so just send it to me, please and thank you.
Jonah
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what are you two on about???
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the question is what r YOU on about?
if u had read the topic u would understand..... ::)
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exacly when i first read this i was like i think hes trying to raise his posts :police:
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me i dont care about posts they are just numbers that people use as virtual forum ego`s
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Should I look into if Titanic had a fog horn, and if it did, what it would have sounded like?
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As has been said so many times, fog horns do not exist on ships.
A "fog horn" is simply a very long blast of the normal ship's horn.
On some buoys, they have a bell fitted or a horn that can be heard at night, at day and of course therefore in fog. It is useful for small vessels, but no large vessel would ever hear the sound, I suspect.
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I wanted to photograph a large ocean buoy once. (10-15 feet high above sea level) I took the shot and I turned away from the sun to look at it (digital camera) and then I heard a REALLY loud bell. When I looked I had drifted within about a foot of the side of it. :o ;)
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That was handy, then!
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I wanted to photograph a large ocean buoy once. (10-15 feet high above sea level) I took the shot and I turned away from the sun to look at it (digital camera) and then I heard a REALLY loud bell. When I looked I had drifted within about a foot of the side of it. :o ;)
Can we see the photo?
And terry: Since fog horns dont exist does that mean neither will this patch?
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Can we see the photo?
And terry: Since fog horns dont exist does that mean neither will this patch?
Well I'm not Terry, but since it's clear in Frank's initial comments on this horn pack, there will not be an official patch, unless it is something unique and new to the game.
And sorry, but this just isn't. It's just another 'horn replacement pack'.
So don't expect an official patch to be made of this, indeed.
Regards,
Fred
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Thanks Fred run my dreams :'(
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHY WHY WHY WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
LOL
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Heh.. :P
Your dream doesn't have to be ruined yet.. Just find something else to add, maybe a real secondary sound system, bells perhaps, and make another pack.
Or if you find evidence for any of the ships in the game to have some other horn, whistle, bell, sound other than what's in the game, add that...
As long as it is unique and realistic, you can still make something that might end up as an official user-made addon.
Fred.
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Heh.. :P
Your dream doesn't have to be ruined yet.. Just find something else to add, maybe a real secondary sound system, bells perhaps, and make another pack.
Or if you find evidence for any of the ships in the game to have some other horn, whistle, bell, sound other than what's in the game, add that...
As long as it is unique and realistic, you can still make something that might end up as an official user-made addon.
Fred.
Like Titanic's whistle! I hear they have replicas out there that are just WAITING to have high quality recordings taken of them ;D
I wonder if the whistles on the Titanic Museum in Branson, Missouri are functional....
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Heh.. :P
Your dream doesn't have to be ruined yet.. Just find something else to add, maybe a real secondary sound system, bells perhaps, and make another pack.
Or if you find evidence for any of the ships in the game to have some other horn, whistle, bell, sound other than what's in the game, add that...
As long as it is unique and realistic, you can still make something that might end up as an official user-made addon.
Fred.
Yes, Like we know Titanic had a bell, MMMMMMMMMMMMM (lol?) You could make that. ANd im sure Furie has a bell.
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Actually, Titanic had 3 bells according to my rigging plan here!
a 9 inch bell hanging in front of the navigation bridge
a 15 inch bell hanging from above the crow's nest (I bet we all know this one!)
and a 23 inch diameter bell hanging from just above the base of the foremast
None of these bells have been rendered yet, but if you want to do a bell, take your pic ;D
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It may just be wishful thinking but I've already made a horn for my new ship "The Iron Flounder"-in the active projects section.
That sounds like the horn of the ocean dream (pullmantur cruises)