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DVOMarineDesign

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Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« on: July 24, 2008, 13:16:32 »

Hello everybody,

My question will be simple and short: Do some of the below ships would be of interest to you in Ship Simulator?

Please note that some of them may need to be downgraded and some specific (and sometimes extensive) work for beeing converted to Ship Simulator use. Note also, this thread is by no means a commitment from the author of these models or from VSTEP. Of course, VSTEP will also be the only ones who will take or not the final decision to make them orsome of them available for Ship Simulator.
This thread is only there for the purpose of evaluating if the below ships would be a plus and of interest to you, with all the functions and missions that Ship Simulator would bring to them for your enjoyement.
In short, the more favourable feedback they get here, the more chance you'll have to see them sailing into Ship Simulator in the future.

SS FRANCE, the famous 1962 French Line' liner:







RUNABOUT (to be named), a 33ft long runabout of my invention:







HANDLE WITH CARE, a raft of my invention:







OCARINA, a 262ft long yacht of my invention:









Thank you for reading this and for your feedback.
Best regards,

DVOMarineDesign.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2008, 13:33:04 by DVOMarineDesign »
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llamalord

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2008, 13:29:56 »

Welcome to the forum,  And what a BANG to start

I could see these vessels in ship simulator with so much ease I couldn't imagine not having them. ;D

All of them look as detailed if not more than some of the ships we currently have, I don't know if V-STEP will accept the raft... :-\ but all the others are the pinicle of what "we" have been asking some one to make.

Great Work,
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Minime

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2008, 13:31:02 »

Did you make those models? If so with what program?
I would really like to see those vessels in the game, the are very detailed to.
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NathanC

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2008, 13:43:18 »

That is AMAZING!!

I'd love to see the Yacht in the game, and SS France looks brilliant!!
Are these ships available for download?
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Denis

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2008, 15:06:23 »

Bienvenue à bord

Magnifiques réalisations, le France a ma préférence, mais tous sont absolument splendides !

bonne chance pour emporter la décision de rendre ces merveilles disponibles dans ShipSim !!

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Welcome aboard,

Wonderful creations, Ss France is my favorite, but all are really splendid !

Good luck , I hope some of thoses beauties will be one day available in ShipSim !


Regards,

Denis
« Last Edit: July 24, 2008, 15:09:26 by Denis »
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pauljanaway1

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2008, 20:59:49 »

they look like vs models?
and i dont see why they would need to be downgraded to go into ships sim we like the littel details
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IRI5HJ4CK

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2008, 07:36:28 »

Very nice, to reply to Paul: Yes i wouldn't have thought they would have to be downgraded? i thought it would be the complete opposite?

Jack.
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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2008, 07:40:39 »

Yes Id realy like these in SS. These are some of the most detailed ships ive seen in virtual sailor. ;)
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IRI5HJ4CK

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2008, 07:45:24 »

Yes Id realy like these in SS. These are some of the most detailed ships ive seen in virtual sailor. ;)

Yes, they certainly are, lots of the user created content in VS is really bad, to be quite honest. Some of the time vessel's don't even have any interior, and if they do, its usually really bad.

Jack.
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pauljanaway1

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2008, 09:40:50 »

we like detail in ship sim the more the better
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agt1980

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2008, 12:06:33 »

one word.............. brilliant! :D
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John Carter

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2008, 13:09:57 »

fantastic m8

how about a battleship as well

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pauljanaway1

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2008, 13:11:23 »

no battel ships as people would want guns
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llamalord

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2008, 14:20:45 »

how about a battleship as well

If you want to fight this battle ;)

Go fight it in the navel ships topic not the eligent yacht topic. :(
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captain03

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2008, 19:18:05 »

I would like see this car ferries


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sonarman

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2008, 00:46:14 »

I'd very much like to see SS France in the game, she is one of my most favourite vessels especially in her original CGT state before she was "transformed" into the much less beautiful SS Norway. I think in her original state she was the last truly beautiful liner built before function over took form and turned ships into the ugly shapeless boxes we have today.

Your model looks amazing Dom and is obviously a labour of love, Can't wait to see her & your other magnifique vessels in the game.
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The Captain

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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2008, 02:43:15 »

I whould love to see that french cruise liner :)! Great ship. How did you take a picture like that? Is there a system you put that ship in to get that amazing view?
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IRI5HJ4CK

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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2008, 08:20:54 »

I whould love to see that french cruise liner :)! Great ship. How did you take a picture like that? Is there a system you put that ship in to get that amazing view?

That background looks like Virtual Sailor to me, the good thing about VS is that you can test out your ships there pretty easy aperently.

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DVOMarineDesign

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2008, 10:08:03 »

Hello everybody,

Thank you all for your comments and questions.

- To reply to all the above requests and to summarize, yes I did build all these models from A to Z of course. Had it been differently, I would have credited the eventual author(s).

- As mentionned by some persons above, images of FRANCE, Runabout and Raft are not just simple renderings issued from a 3D program but are actual screenshots (not retouched) of fully sailable and working models into a competitor game.
There's a heck of a lot of work between a 3D models for renderings or static presentations and models for a game, with the simmer being able to go everywhere onboard (very close to any objects or parts of the ship) and with all the dynamic, in-game and lighting/specular/reflection features. SS FRANCE needed about 2 years to be completed (the bridge have yet to be done) and has about 240,000 polygons (that's why I said, shape wise and details wise, it may need to be downgraded in order to fit ShipSim requirements).
Modeling a very large passenger liner with sheer within hull and superstructure is a real headhache to model, in order to obtain a fair compromise between accuracy true to reality and number of polygons. With sheer, no or very few perfectly longitudinal homotethy or coordinates translation are allowed and the slight curvature of everything (bulkheads, walls, decks, railing...) have to match every parts together. Should we don't care about polygons number and implementation into a game, the task would still be long and meticulous, but far easier to achieve. Add to that nearly everything in this ship isn't straight with seldom right angles and you'll understand the complexity and commitment (sometimes abnegation) to model such a ship with accuracy and details. No pothole, window, vent grid or railing's bar is there by chance.
The raft and runabout needed about 2 weeks each, so far easier.

You can see more detailed and larger actual screenshots on these pages:
SS FRANCE: http://www.dvomarinedesign.com/france3d/VS1.htm
Raft: http://www.dvomarinedesign.com/france3d/VS2.htm
Runabout: http://www.dvomarinedesign.com/france3d/VS3.htm
SS FRANCE trailer (25min long video, large file, so please be patient):
http://www.dvomarinedesign.com/vs/ss_france_forever-632-90.wmv
Runabout short video (first sea trials) while building it:
http://www.dvomarinedesign.com/vs/video-runabout-1.wmv

The yacht OCARINA, designed and 3D-built in 2002 is still at a more basic rendering and modeling stage and has never been brought into a game or dynamic evironment yet.

- I've used Rhinoceros 3D for pure modeling (great program for that) and then Gmax (lite version of 3dsMax as some f you know) for texturing/materials and then exporting to DirectDraw format.

I think some of these ships would be nice if implemented into Ship Simulator because this sim has some nice feature lacking in the competitor software, for instance water motion (waves) is better. Some graphics or feature are better whislt other ones are not, but that's not the problem and the purpose of this thread since any maritime game would benefit from any additional ships for staying alive, especially during the gap between the initial release of the game and a future version release, and any ships models would benefit from beeing implemented into as many programs as possible.

A few additional screenshots, with all the already in-game implemented models gathered too:











I'm currently working on proposing something of use for ShipSim' team. It may probably need a few weeks for a first model (probably the runabout first). Then, understandably, ShipSim' team will evaluate if this is doable for implementing it into the sim. Our common goal is to propose something nice and of interest to you, but remember, as I've said on my first post above, the final decision and work will be theirs, so I'm of course not speaking for them here.
Remember as well, the more large and favourable feedback here, the better for reaching that objective.

Best regards,

DVOMarineDesign.
« Last Edit: July 26, 2008, 10:10:15 by DVOMarineDesign »
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John Carter

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2008, 10:34:52 »

all i can say is wow wow wow

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NathanC

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2008, 12:04:10 »

I'm downloading the SS France right now  ;D
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topguncap

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2008, 12:44:17 »

can you get the ss france on ship simulator
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pauljanaway1

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2008, 12:46:28 »

can you get the ss france on ship simulator

no the ship is only in vs
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Capt. Le Velle

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Re: Would you like to see these ships in Ship Simulator?
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2008, 22:26:43 »

i love the detail envolved i think they should add all of them ;D, but i dont think they will accept the raft
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NathanC

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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2008, 08:26:27 »

but i dont think they will accept the raft

Agreed  ;D - or maybe as a hidden feature, like Ducky  ;D
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