Topic: The computer topic (Read 37446 times)

vin_sun · « **Reply #50 on:** August 08, 2011, 15:35:29 »

Quote from: dexter7 on August 08, 2011, 14:12:43

Wait why did you say Radeon? I have a GeForce.

Yes, I am aware of that. Geforce and Radeon are two big names in the graphics card industry. You can choose either of them. Any of them will fit into the slot provided for the graphics card on the motherboard.

dexter7 · « **Reply #51 on:** August 08, 2011, 15:41:27 »

Great!

dexter7 · « **Reply #52 on:** August 22, 2011, 16:37:59 »

Is CyberPower a good brand for gaming computers?

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #53 on:** August 24, 2011, 10:38:04 »

Looking on Amazon, I was looking at this i5 processor (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-Sandybridge-i5-2500-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B004FA8NNW/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2WQJLNVY924UI&colid=Y40X6VY62ET7)

However, under the recommended for you section it come up with this

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003FVI2KQ/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0GHY8JZDCG41GWVP9Y2M&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294)

3.2GHz, and SIX Cores! and cheaper then the i5

BUT

does anyone know if it is any good...?

Many Thanks

TFM

vin_sun · « **Reply #54 on:** August 24, 2011, 11:37:51 »

AMD processors are good but Intel does have an edge over them.

AMD processors are cheaper than Intel ones.

Heat build up in AMD is higher and you may have to invest in an after market cooler fan to replace the stock fan which comes with the processor.

AMD sockets on motherboards retain their size so it is easier to transfer an AMD processor from one motherboard to another (in the event you are upgrading the motherboard). Whenever Intel releases a new processor there is a probability that it may not fit in the socket of your existing motherboard and you may have to change the motherboard too. (Motherboards are manufactured either for the AMD processor or the Intel processor. The socket dimensions vary)

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #55 on:** August 24, 2011, 12:59:23 »

Ahh OK thanks

would the six cores be better then the four i5 cores?

vin_sun · « **Reply #56 on:** August 24, 2011, 15:19:27 »

Hi TFM,

Reading this may explain some things .......

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/power_six

Regards
vin_sun

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #57 on:** August 24, 2011, 16:25:55 »

Ahh thanks very much

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3D Modeling
This is the where the Phenom X6 1090T shines the brightest. The 1090T aces both the Core i5-750 and Core i7-860 in Cinebench 10 and 11.5, and POV Ray 3.7. It even manages to outpace the $562 Core i7-870 in POV Ray and Cinebench 11.5.

Very handy...

dexter7 · « **Reply #58 on:** August 25, 2011, 03:22:00 »

ahh the way people ignore me

If cyberpower is a decent gaming computer manufacturer, I put together a little thing for a surprising 699!

here you go, can I call you vinny?

Case: CoolerMaster Elite 430 Mid-Tower Gaming Case with Side Panel Window
Internal USB Extension Module: None
Neon Light Upgrade: None
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Default case fans
Noise Reduction Technology: None
CPU: IntelÂ® Coreâ„¢ i3-2100 3.10 GHz 3M Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 [-96]
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: No Overclocking
Cooling Fan: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: Standard Coolant
Motherboard: * [CrossFireX] GigaByte GA-Z68A-D3-B3 Intel Z68 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ Intel Smart Response Technology & 7.1 Dolby Home Theater Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, 2x SATA-III RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 3 PCIe X1 & 2 PCI (All Venom OC Certified)
Intel Smart Response Technology for Z68: None
Memory: 4GB (2GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module (Corsair or Major Brand)
Video Card: AMD Radeon HD 6770 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card (Major Brand Powered by ATI)
Freebies: None
Video Card 2: None
Video Card 3: None
Dedicated PHYSX Card: None
Multiple Video Card Settings: Non-SLI/Non-CrossFireX Mode Supports Multiple Monitors
Power Supply Upgrade: 600 Watts - XtremeGear Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready
Hard Drive: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
Data Hard Drive: None
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None
External Hard Drive (USB3.0/2.0/eSATA): None
USB Flash Drive: None
Optical Drive: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
3D Vision Glasses: None
Freebies: None
LCD Monitor: None
2nd Monitor: None
3rd Monitor: None
Speakers: None
Network: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
Network Switch: None
Keyboard: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
Mouse: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
Mouse Pad: None
Gaming Gear: None
Extra Thermal Display: None
Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: None
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless 802.11 B/G/N Access Point: None
Bluetooth: None
Flash Media Reader/Writer: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
Video Camera: None
Headset: None
Printer: None
Cable: None
Power Protection: None
Surge Protector: Ultra U12-40629 7 Outlet Surge Protector Black 6 Individual On/Off Switch [+20]
IEEE1394 Card: None
Internal USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
USB Port: None
Operating System: None - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None
Office Suite: None
Games: None
Ultra Care Option: None
Service: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
Rush Service: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS

vin_sun · « **Reply #59 on:** August 25, 2011, 06:42:58 »

Hi Dex,

Sorry, I could not comment earlier by just the brand name. Now that you have given details of the config I can say it is good .......

- The processor is at 3.1 Ghz
- RAM is adequate at 4 GB and I am sure it can be increased if required
- Graphics card - Radeon Series 6 ..... good
- Hard disk - good capacity at 1 TB
- PSU - no mention about one fitted but I suppose the right one has been fitted .... check if it is at least 500W
- MoBo - Gigabyte is a good brand and is used in gaming computers
- Cooling system - liquid cooling systems are efficient but have a projection behind the casing which is the tank which holds the coolant. Make sure you have adequate space in the location where you intend placing the computer casing to allow for this protrusion. Hope you are comfortable with liquid passing by in pipes inside the computer. You have to keep a check on the coolant level in the tank.
- USB ports - no mention, but there should be some USB ports which have easy access. Normally they will be on the front panel of the casing. Do confirm.
- OS (Windows) - not included! This will be an additional expense for you.

Regards
Vinny

Ralphy · « **Reply #60 on:** August 25, 2011, 09:51:34 »

Quote from: dexter7 on August 25, 2011, 03:22:00

Power Supply Upgrade: 600 Watts - XtremeGear Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready

Dexter...after a quick google it seems that XtremeGear PSU's are not that reliable and is advisable to change it to a well known brand that is known for quality such as Corsair.

Apart from the PSU everything looks good

vin_sun · « **Reply #61 on:** August 25, 2011, 10:09:11 »

Ralphy / Dexter

You may notice, the Xtremegear PSU is being offered as an 'upgrade'. In my opinion, since it is a Coolermaster casing, the PSU being supplied may be a Coolermaster too and of about 500 Watts. It may be for this reason that an upgrade to a 600 Watt is being offered.

Ralphy · « **Reply #62 on:** August 25, 2011, 10:34:13 »

Just been looking on the website that he's useing and the defualt is a 450W, there are quite a few options for PSU's and one stood out was a 600W Coolermaster which is 80 plus gold rated so will be suitable for long periods of time on high loads

dexter7 · « **Reply #63 on:** August 25, 2011, 12:11:55 »

no i just checked and it's 600W
also there goes my $699!

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #64 on:** August 25, 2011, 19:47:39 »

OK my PC is really playing up, so planning on upgrading now...

so

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3.20GHz (http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/AMD+Phenom+II+X6+1090T+3.20GHz+Black+Edition+%28Socket+AM3%29+Processor+-+Retail+?productId=40096)

Motherboard (http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/AMD+AM3%2B+%28900+Chipset%29/ASUS+M5A97+PRO+AMD+970A+%28Socket+AM3%2B%29+DDR3+PCI-Express+ATX+Motherboard+?productId=44770)

RAM (http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Memory/DDR3/Dual+Channel+1600MHz/8GB+Corsair+Memory+XMS3+DDR3+1600+MHz+CAS+9+Dual+Channel+Desktop+-+CMX8GX3M2A1600C9+?productId=43431)

Does this look OK? Will it play SSE ok? Also will it fit my Asus nVIDIA 3D GeForce GTX 550 TI DirectCu Graphics Card (1GB)?

And Will my 500 Watt Power be enough?

Thanks,

TFM

Ralphy · « **Reply #65 on:** August 25, 2011, 19:59:02 »

CPU (http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/CPUs+%2F+Processors/AMD+Phenom+II/AMD+Phenom+II+X6+1090T+3.20GHz+Black+Edition+%28Socket+AM3%29+Processor+-+Retail+?productId=40096)

You will have to pay an extra Â£4 now as the superspecial deal is over. But apart from that it should be ok. and just to warn you there is only 1 keyboard/mouse connection in that so either the mouse or keyboard will have to be USB

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #66 on:** August 25, 2011, 20:01:04 »

Mouse is already USB

vin_sun · « **Reply #67 on:** August 25, 2011, 20:30:29 »

Hi TFM,

The choices are good and will be suitable for running SSE.

The PSU is about adequate. I figured from an online PSU calculator, you will require a minimum of 471 Watts.

MoBo is good too but I notice these days that they don't come with on board video. This does have a slight disadvantage as in the event of a graphics card failure you will get no video signals. If you did have on board video you can connect the video cable of your monitor to the MoBo and continue using the computer, but of course you will not be able to play any graphics hungry games.

vin_sun

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #68 on:** August 25, 2011, 20:31:56 »

Ahh

OK Thanks

is it worth getting one with a onboard graphics card?

vin_sun · « **Reply #69 on:** August 25, 2011, 20:38:39 »

Quote from: The Ferry Man on August 25, 2011, 20:31:56

is it worth getting one with a onboard graphics card?

Let's say with 'on board graphics' .... it's not a card as such but there is a kind of a graphics processor which is embedded into the motherboard and will be good enough for doing regular stuff like Office applications, surfing the Net, watching DVD movies and may be even burning disks.

Personally, I would always opt for a motherboard with on board graphics as it is a sure shot solution for a busted graphics card.

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #70 on:** August 25, 2011, 20:39:53 »

Ahh OK thanks

vin_sun · « **Reply #71 on:** August 25, 2011, 20:46:20 »

@ TFM

Here is a MoBo with on board graphics

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #72 on:** August 25, 2011, 20:48:39 »

Ahh OK Thanks

How is this one? (http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/AMD+AM3%2B+%28900+Chipset%29/ASUS+M5A99X+EVO+AMD+990X+%28Socket+AM3%2B%29+DDR3+PCI-Express+ATX+Motherboard+?productId=44760)

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Graphics interface: 2 x PCIe 2.0 x16 slots (Single@x16 speed; Dual@x8/x8 speed)

Also, will I be able to fit my Graphics Card and my USB expansion Card?

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Expansion Slots: 1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 slot (Black@x4 speed), 2 x PCIe 2.0 x1 slots, 1 x PCI slot.

vin_sun · « **Reply #73 on:** August 25, 2011, 20:53:27 »

No on board video on the - ASUS M5A99X EVO !!!!

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #74 on:** August 25, 2011, 21:00:07 »

Ahh OK

I think I have found one

Motherboard (http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Motherboards/AMD+AM3%2B+Ready/Asus+M5A88-M+AMD+880+%28Socket+AM3%29+DDR3+PCI-Express+Motherboard+?productId=45540)

Any good? Surprisingly the cheaper ones have them, and the expensive ones don't (not that I am complaining... xD)

Will it fit my Graphics Card and my multi-USB that fits in the Expansion slot?

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