Topic: The computer topic (Read 36384 times)

dexter7 · « **on:** July 15, 2011, 18:36:29 »

I was just thinking of getting a new processor for my laptop. Is this a good one?

vin_sun · « **Reply #1 on:** July 15, 2011, 20:39:18 »

The Core i3 (in the Dxdiag) is a more powerful one but it has a low clock speed (for SSE). The AMD processor's clock speed is a lot better. It is a known fact that AMD processors tend to generate more heat than Intel processors. A USB cooling pad would be useful then for your laptop.

dexter7 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 15, 2011, 21:43:27 »

so vin your are saying i found the right processor?

vin_sun · « **Reply #3 on:** July 15, 2011, 21:57:01 »

Yeah, Dex .... it should be good. If you see the System Requirements of SSE the emphasis is on the clock speed of 3 Ghz (Intel or AMD equivalent ). My desktop has an AMD processor and it has been performing well but I had to replace the stock fan it came with, with an aftermarket cooling fan. Just keep monitoring temperatures. SSE does make quite a demand on the processor.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa ...... just a moment ! Your laptop has an Intel processor right now isn't it ? Then I quite doubt if the motherboard will be able to accept an AMD processor. The sockets are different.

Sorry ... it did not occur to me earlier !

I also see from your Dxdiag that you have on board graphics. SSE requires a separate graphics card !!

dexter7 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 15, 2011, 22:04:27 »

I'm not going to argue with you like in the computer topic

but is there an Intel processor out there for a reasonable price and clock-speed?
uh-oh another question... what do you mean by "SSE requires a separate graphics card !!"?

vin_sun · « **Reply #5 on:** July 15, 2011, 22:26:36 »

Well Dex ...... I checked out and there are Intel processors for laptops. I saw in the Intel website that they don't seem to have a 3.0 Ghz processor for a laptop. It was a quick look though. Let me check again later.

As for the graphics .... there is always support for graphics on the motherboard. But this is not good enough for gaming. Newer laptops come with a separate graphics card and this is what SSE requires. Your laptop does not have this "separate" graphics card.

Generally speaking, laptops are not recommended for graphic intense gaming

dexter7 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 15, 2011, 23:28:13 »

Yeah I've heard that many times before. Man I should have bought a computer that had the right stuff.

dexter7 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 15, 2011, 23:41:38 »

yep i bought the wrong computer http://www.intel.com/products/processor/corei7ee/mobile/index.htm this is intel best processor...

dexter7 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 16, 2011, 03:14:11 »

Alright vin... i found a good desktop, slim and sleek, but don't know about the graphics card

512MB DDR3 AMD Radeon HD 6450 [DVI, HDMI. VGA adapter]

1GB DDR3 AMD Radeon HD 6450 [DVI, HDMI. VGA adapter]

1GB DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GT520 [DVI, HDMI, VGA adapter]

2GB DDR3 NVIDIA GeForce GT 530 [DVI, HDMI, VGA adapter]

vin_sun · « **Reply #9 on:** July 16, 2011, 06:32:22 »

Graphic cards with I GB Video RAM has almost become "entry level" these days. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th graphic cards in your list are good ones.

dexter7 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 16, 2011, 10:59:50 »

well obviously i want the cheapest that actually works so thanks vin!

vin_sun · « **Reply #11 on:** July 16, 2011, 13:23:46 »

Quote from: vin_sun on July 16, 2011, 06:32:22

Graphic cards with I GB Video RAM has almost become "entry level" these days. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th graphic cards in your list are good ones.

Hi Dex,

Sorry, I had rushed into that answer. On the contrary, though those cards are reasonably priced, their ranking is way below compared to the HD 4850 that is recommended for SSE.

If you are opting for an HD Radeon you can consider the HD 5670 ($ 75) or the HD 5750 ($ 115) or the HD 5770 ($ 120)

Among the GTs, you can consider the GTS 250 or the GTS 450 (both $ 100)

Hope this suits your budget.

Regards
vin_sun

dexter7 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 16, 2011, 20:09:47 »

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa! Hold on a second, is there a possible way to change the mother board so it can house the Radeon processor?

Because I don't want to go buying a new computer not knowing mine can be saved

vin_sun · « **Reply #13 on:** July 16, 2011, 21:22:19 »

Dex ..... I need some more information about that desktop you found. Can you give me a link to it ?

dexter7 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 16, 2011, 21:44:41 »

http://www.shopping.hp.com/series/category/desktops/s5xt_series/3/computer_store?jumpid=in_r329_personalization/browse1/home_SDP
but vin,

Quote from: dexter7 on July 16, 2011, 20:09:47

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa! Hold on a second, is there a possible way to change the mother board so it can house the Radeon processor? Because I don't want to go buying a new computer not knowing mine can be saved

vin_sun · « **Reply #15 on:** July 17, 2011, 07:17:46 »

Hi Dex,

Branded desktops (the bigger names) are not ideally suited for gaming. HP never gives a mid range graphics card with their desktops. The choices for the graphics are those which you had mentioned earlier and I had confirmed that they do not suit SSE. Though replacing the card is another option, this particular desktop (in your message above) has another hitch and that is it has a low powered PSU (power supply unit) - only 220 watts. Graphics cards are dependent on a stable and high wattage units and I personally consider 500 Watts and above for a gaming computer.

What is your budget ? I could look around and recommend components - but you will need somebody to assemble it. Would you also require a monitor and Windows 7 ?

Regards
vin_sun

dexter7 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 18, 2011, 05:11:43 »

I have a least 700$ (i make money fast

) and yes i have a very good friend that could assemble it.

vin_sun · « **Reply #17 on:** July 18, 2011, 06:31:36 »

Quote from: dexter7 on July 18, 2011, 05:11:43

I have a least 700$ (i make money fast ) and yes i have a very good friend that could assemble it.

OK Dex .... give me some time and I'll rig up something for you. Do you need a monitor & Windows 7 too ?

dexter7 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 18, 2011, 06:44:21 »

win.7 is a must and i do have a rather small moniter

but remember this isn't final

vin_sun · « **Reply #19 on:** July 18, 2011, 21:26:56 »

Hi Dex,

Please see the config in the attachment. I must admit I could not squeeze it all in your budget of $ 700. I have referred to www.newegg.com for pricing.

Regards
vin_sun

dexter7 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 25, 2011, 22:30:03 »

Alright I'll take note on that. Thanks

Master Captain · « **Reply #21 on:** July 30, 2011, 04:01:16 »

just to bounce back on your original post, that amd processor is not going to work in your laptop as you currently have an intel system. AMD and intel use 2 different socket types, and it would be a totally different motherboard

dexter7 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 30, 2011, 05:04:58 »

vin_sun beat you to that

Quote from: vin_sun on July 15, 2011, 21:57:01

Whoa, whoa, whoa ...... just a moment ! Your laptop has an Intel processor right now isn't it ? Then I quite doubt if the motherboard will be able to accept an AMD processor. The sockets are different.

Sorry ... it did not occur to me earlier !

I also see from your Dxdiag that you have on board graphics. SSE requires a separate graphics card !!

Master Captain · « **Reply #23 on:** July 30, 2011, 05:32:36 »

Ah missed that

dexter7 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 30, 2011, 05:46:47 »

alright, just letting you know

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