Topic: The computer topic (Read 37436 times)

dexter7 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 30, 2011, 23:15:18 »

Hello! I am getting an new graphics card for my old desktop but I don't don't know how big it is... $:-\$ Is that something to take into consideration?

I want a good graphics card but not worth a fortune so does anyone have any suggestions? I have a Geforce 7050 / Nforce 620i
The reason I'm changing stuff in my old desktop is that I don't want to buy a completely new desktop for way more than what new stuff would cost.

sadsid (â€ 2016) · « **Reply #26 on:** July 31, 2011, 02:50:18 »

Hi dexter7
There is more to it than that how old is desktop is the power pack in it
big enough to support a bigger card .
For Vin-Sun or one of the others to help you better post dxdiag of desktop
Eric

VirtualSkipper · « **Reply #27 on:** July 31, 2011, 14:21:14 »

Quote from: sadsid on July 31, 2011, 02:50:18

For Vin-Sun or one of the others to help you better post dxdiag of desktop
Eric

He did that at beginning of this topic.

vin_sun · « **Reply #28 on:** July 31, 2011, 17:46:36 »

Quote from: VirtualSkipper on July 31, 2011, 14:21:14

He did that at beginning of this topic.

No VS ........ that Dxdiag was of his laptop !

VirtualSkipper · « **Reply #29 on:** July 31, 2011, 19:32:56 »

Quote from: vin_sun on July 31, 2011, 17:46:36

No VS ........ that Dxdiag was of his laptop !

Oh, my bad.

dexter7 · « **Reply #30 on:** August 04, 2011, 00:49:45 »

here...

VirtualSkipper · « **Reply #31 on:** August 04, 2011, 01:17:24 »

Quote from: dexter7 on August 04, 2011, 00:49:45

here...

The clocking speed is 1.6 wheras 3.0 or higher is required.
Also your video card is a GeForce 7050, while a GeForce 8800 or higher is required.

So because of this, don't hope SSE will run very smoothly.

dexter7 · « **Reply #32 on:** August 04, 2011, 01:30:00 »

I'm all set for the processor, what is a cheap graphics card that is above 8800

VirtualSkipper · « **Reply #33 on:** August 04, 2011, 03:06:08 »

Ehm, you also have to know... processors are never that cheap.
A good processor with a clockingspeed of, let's say, 3.0 GHz can be as much as 400 or 500 euro's here in Holland.

As for the videocard. Those aren't that expensive, but I have a 9600 in my PC and that one was around 150 euro's or so.

dexter7 · « **Reply #34 on:** August 04, 2011, 11:30:02 »

Hmm here (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116385) I found a great 3.2 GHz processor for 76$ on newegg

(I think you can figure out what that is in euros)

VirtualSkipper · « **Reply #35 on:** August 04, 2011, 11:34:41 »

Quote from: dexter7 on August 04, 2011, 11:30:02

Hmm here (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116385) I found a great 3.2 GHz processor for 76$ on newegg (I think you can figure out what that is in euros)

I think Vin_Sun should have a look at this.

dexter7 · « **Reply #36 on:** August 04, 2011, 12:34:35 »

yeah vin_sun is the computer guy

vin_sun · « **Reply #37 on:** August 04, 2011, 13:14:28 »

Hello Dex,

The processor is good. It's a dual core and the clock speed of 3.2 GHz will suit SSE fine. I need to check out other things about your desktop. Will get back to you.

vin_sun

vin_sun · « **Reply #38 on:** August 04, 2011, 14:04:33 »

Hello Dex,

Your Acer Veriton desktop is a bit ancient. Branded PCs are not very "cooperative" when it comes to upgrading.

These are my observations:-

- Though your choice for the processor is good, you have to figure out if the the motherboard can accept it. It has a suitable socket but motherboards have limitations on the clock speeds of the processor they can accept. In a branded computer one never gets to know the brand of the motherboard so it becomes difficult to figure about the processor compatibility. I wonder if you have any literature that came with the PC that can confirm this.

- You are low on RAM too. Further it is DDR2 as I saw for the Veriton on the Net. DDR2 is almost bidding farewell now and has been superseded by DDR3.

- The graphics card is simply too ancient. It ranks way way way down than the GT 8800 recommended for SSE. Then again just changing the graphics card is not the entire solution. It has to have a suitable PSU (power supply unit). I checked on the Net and it says the Veriton has a 200/300 Watts PSU. This rating is rather low for a gaming computer.

You may have to check with the Acer dealer about the upgradability. I know all this is not very encouraging but this is what computers are all about. They become 'old' in a very short span of time. Even I had to sell my earlier PC for a low price and configure a new one just to suit SSE.

Regards
vin_sun

dexter7 · « **Reply #39 on:** August 04, 2011, 14:55:18 »

Ancient, hmm. About the Graphics card, is the GeForce 9400 gt (http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_9400gt_us.html) suitable? And I'll tear up my house looking for any "literature" that came with it.

VirtualSkipper · « **Reply #40 on:** August 04, 2011, 14:56:31 »

Quote from: dexter7 on August 04, 2011, 14:55:18

Ancient, hmm. About the Graphics card, is the GeForce 9400 gt (http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_9400gt_us.html) suitable? And I'll tear up my house looking for any "literature" that came with it.

Yep, that's a better card and is suitable.

dexter7 · « **Reply #41 on:** August 04, 2011, 15:04:03 »

is this (http://support.acer.com/acerpanam/desktop/0000/Acer/VeritonM264/VeritonM264sp2.shtml) what you are looking for?

VirtualSkipper · « **Reply #42 on:** August 04, 2011, 16:12:02 »

No, the clockingspeed and the graphics are again too low.

Just keep in mind that the graphics card has to be NVIDIA 8800 GT or higher and that the clocking speed must be 3,0 GHz or higher.

vin_sun · « **Reply #43 on:** August 04, 2011, 17:37:00 »

@VS

Dexter was making reference to the "literature" I was asking if he had about his PC. It is the same PC his Dxdiag showed.

@ Dexter

Quote

is this what you are looking for?

Well that was the same thing I had referred to on the Net when offering my comments in reply above. When I said "literature", I meant the User Manual. You have to know for sure as to the clock speed limitation of the processor compatible with the motherboard that Acer has installed in the PC. I will see if I can find this info.

As for the Geforce 9400 GT ....... sorry, but still far away from the Geforce 8800 GT that SSE recommends. The 8800 GT's current ranking is 101 and the 9400 GT is at 382.

vin_sun

dexter7 · « **Reply #44 on:** August 04, 2011, 17:50:42 »

can you give me a list of graphics cards with a good ranking?

dexter7 · « **Reply #45 on:** August 04, 2011, 17:59:21 »

Is this what you're looking for?

vin_sun · « **Reply #46 on:** August 04, 2011, 18:31:01 »

Quote from: dexter7 on August 04, 2011, 17:59:21

Is this what you're looking for?

I just ran into the same manual on the Net and unfortunately it is just a general user guide for most of Acers desktops and not the Veriton in particular.

I suggest you call Acer Support in USA and see if they can tell you about the processor limitations I have been stressing upon. However my searches showed that there were Veritons with the Intel Dual Core processor, but the clock speed was at 2.4 Ghz. I cannot tell for sure but it is a possibility that the Veriton M264 cannot accept a processor with a clock speed over 2.4 Ghz.

I will look for a graphics card too (close to the 8800 GT), but I am sure they will need a PSU of a higher wattage. But what is your budget for the card ?

dexter7 · « **Reply #47 on:** August 05, 2011, 01:01:23 »

can you supply me a list of graphics cards suitable for SSE

vin_sun · « **Reply #48 on:** August 05, 2011, 06:39:16 »

Hello Dex,

Here is the link to the website I refer to for rankings. It is updated often. Prices for some cards are quoted but I suggest you check at Newegg or TigerDirect.

http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php

In this website, you can click on any of the column headings and arrange the data in ascending / descending or alphabetic / numerical order. Since the Geforce 8800GT has a ranking of 101 try and avoid going below that. The other recommended card by SSE is the Radeon HD 4850 and that has a rank of 63 but you can choose one with a rank of 70 too. The concept is to stay as close as possible to the cards recommended for SSE. Needless to say, your budget also matters. If you do home down on a card, check its power requirements (watts). As your Acer Veriton has a low wattage PSU, the better cards may not be suitable. Don't ever risk popping in a card whose wattage requirements are high. The capacitors of the card will eventually blow and this is not covered under warranty.

Further, do not select any card which has 'Mobile' or 'Mobility' in it. These are for laptops.

vin_sun

dexter7 · « **Reply #49 on:** August 08, 2011, 14:12:43 »

Wait why did you say Radeon? I have a GeForce.

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