Topic: Channel Queen - the continuation... (Read 47796 times)

The Ferry King · « **Reply #125 on:** September 12, 2011, 15:54:10 »

Like my previous two picture up there^^^(second ones down)

I read on a page that it could make the ship turn faster and causes less drag.

clanky · « **Reply #126 on:** September 12, 2011, 19:21:55 »

The idea of the becker rudder is that for every degree of rudder angle you put on the flap will move around 2 degrees, which turns it into a wing shape and gives much better manoeuvrability.

The downsides are:

- if you put too much helm on the rudder can stall in the same way as a wing (this can happen with ordinary rudders too but it is not as bad as a becker)

- it is more moving parts under the water and if it breaks it means either divers, if you are lucky, or a drydock

- when you go astern at any more than a crawl the forces on the flap are huge (see above regarding divers / drydock)

If you ask most captains they will tell you that Becker rudders are great, if you ask most chief engineers they will swear at you.

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #127 on:** September 12, 2011, 19:23:20 »

OK thanks

So your opinion is it worth having one on a D-C ferry?

(The Spirit of France has them)

clanky · « **Reply #128 on:** September 12, 2011, 19:26:58 »

Dover - Calais is probably one of the few routes where the gain in manoeuvrability outweighs the disadvantages, so much as it pains me, I would probably have to say yes.

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #129 on:** September 12, 2011, 19:40:23 »

hehe OK

i will have a look then

The Ferry King · « **Reply #130 on:** September 12, 2011, 19:42:15 »

Good Idea TFM, It would great

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #131 on:** September 12, 2011, 20:07:44 »

OK

Does this look OK/right

Thats the main rudder with flap shut for first three pics and open to 40' on the last two

clanky · « **Reply #132 on:** September 13, 2011, 14:51:21 »

No, the flap should be much smaller, think along the lines of the flaps on aircraft wings.

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #133 on:** September 13, 2011, 14:52:09 »

OK

Um...

how big are airplane flaps...?

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #134 on:** September 13, 2011, 14:55:30 »

Quote from: The Ferry Man on September 13, 2011, 14:52:09

OK

Um...

how big are airplane flaps...?

Depends upon the size of the aircraft.

clanky · « **Reply #135 on:** September 13, 2011, 15:00:31 »

Quote from: The Ferry King on September 12, 2011, 15:54:10

This flap is the trailing edge part.

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #136 on:** September 13, 2011, 15:02:01 »

Ahh OK

Thanks

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #137 on:** September 14, 2011, 12:42:01 »

OK improved rudder design (Take 2)

gain the flap is at 40' in the final two pics

clanky · « **Reply #138 on:** September 15, 2011, 14:31:55 »

Sorry I haven't replied a bit sooner, yeah, that looks about right.

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #139 on:** September 15, 2011, 14:33:11 »

No Problem

OK thanks

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #140 on:** October 29, 2011, 14:47:25 »

You didn't think I forgot her

OK folks some updates

She is currently in a beta stage now, although it turns out VS Doesn't like my SS required Texture maps so it comes out wierd... :/

but it pointed out a few errors that have been fixed

According to the kerkythea plug in for SU, she is about 30,000 triangles below the maximum, which is good, although is Kerkythea accurate?

so here are some screenshots and renders

General SU Shots:

Bridge Interior:

Fresh renders:

The one texture that is less impressive is the doors/portholes :/

Anyone got any suggestions? if I am running light on polys I could make them...

clanky · « **Reply #141 on:** October 29, 2011, 15:00:26 »

Looks fantastic TFM.

Rbsanford · « **Reply #142 on:** October 29, 2011, 16:37:13 »

looks great!

but u wer asking for help on doors/windows... try adding more texture. like that door in the bridge with the porthole. u could probably make the porthole frame stick out a bit and add a new texture to the window.

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #143 on:** October 29, 2011, 17:17:48 »

Thanks guys

Improved door:

henry14 · « **Reply #144 on:** October 30, 2011, 19:33:32 »

Very very nice!!!

Rbsanford · « **Reply #145 on:** October 30, 2011, 20:19:37 »

why is the knob square?

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #146 on:** October 30, 2011, 20:36:36 »

Thanks

The knob isn't square

The square is the outline and cut out with the doorknob inside

It still doesn't look quite right though, but I am not sure why...

VirtualSkipper · « **Reply #147 on:** October 30, 2011, 22:08:35 »

Quote from: The Ferry Man on October 30, 2011, 20:36:36

Thanks

The knob isn't square

The square is the outline and cut out with the doorknob inside

It still doesn't look quite right though, but I am not sure why...

Is it a door where you must pull down the yellow bar to open it?

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #148 on:** October 30, 2011, 22:08:59 »

yes

VirtualSkipper · « **Reply #149 on:** October 30, 2011, 22:09:15 »

Quote from: The Ferry Man on October 30, 2011, 22:08:59

yes

Ah, OK.

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