Topic: A whale the world largest ship?? (Read 15270 times)

oceandream · « **on:** July 28, 2010, 23:51:40 »

Hii everybody.
I believe we heard on the news that the "A Whale" is now the worlds largest ship..
She is 340 meters long and has e bean of 60 meters.
I went back too look and saw with my own eyes that berge stahl has a lenght of 342 meters and has a beam of 63 meters..

Now if i hear that A whale is the worlds largest ship that is 340 meters long and berge stahl is 342 meters.
I say that that cannot be right

I say Berge Stahl is now the biggest one, and not a whale.

If theres something that is not right not in the info here please tell me asap..

Kind Regards

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #1 on:** July 28, 2010, 23:52:47 »

But hasn't Berge Stahle been scrapped though

oceandream · « **Reply #2 on:** July 28, 2010, 23:55:34 »

waat??
Why am i not hearing these things

$:-\$

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #3 on:** July 29, 2010, 00:07:00 »

Sorry, I thought she was the Knock Nevis. My mistake

VirtualSkipper · « **Reply #4 on:** July 29, 2010, 00:13:04 »

It's not really the dimensions of a ship that makes it the largest.
It's all about the space within the ship. Length is thereby very different from space.

And maybe the Berge Stahl has greater dimension than A Whale but maybe is that tanker higher than the Berge Stahl

oceandream · « **Reply #5 on:** July 29, 2010, 00:25:51 »

i see...a whale is an oil tanker but also a bulk carrier..
lets say she is 50/50.
Alto i still prefer berge stahl, cause she has a bigger draft

saltydog · « **Reply #6 on:** July 29, 2010, 00:27:59 »

I thought "A Whale" was the ship used for cleaning up the oil mess in the Gulf..

oceandream · « **Reply #7 on:** July 29, 2010, 00:29:26 »

we all thought that...
but now we hear theres no more oil gushing out

Ballast · « **Reply #8 on:** July 29, 2010, 11:54:46 »

Hi Ocean Dream,

A ship with the longest length doens't necessary has to be the largest ship. A vessel might be smaller in length, but can have a larger gross tonnage (GT). Technically she would still be the largest ship.

Ballast

Denis · « **Reply #9 on:** July 29, 2010, 12:42:37 »

Hi all,

if we talk just about length, the Berge Stahl (nor the A whale) aren't the biggest.

The container ship Emma Maerk is 397m long, and the longest (sold for demolition at this time) was the Knock Nevis (458,45m after modifications). Even the Queen Mary 2 is a bit longer (345m) !

And the biggest ship ever build (The Knock Nevis has become bigger only after modifications) was The Pierre Guillaumat : http://www.aukevisser.nl/supertankers/id38.htm , 414m length.

A "fun" fact is when you read the Pierre Guillaumat was build in 1977 ... And scrapped in 1983 !

a few comparisons : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bateaux_comparaison2.svg

matt5674 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 29, 2010, 14:31:24 »

The Pierre Guillaumat was largest for six years?! Why did they scrap a ship that wasn't in service very long? I mean, that ain't right.

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #11 on:** July 29, 2010, 14:33:25 »

It probably took longer to build and design her...

IRI5HJ4CK · « **Reply #12 on:** July 29, 2010, 14:36:59 »

Quote from: matt5674 on July 29, 2010, 14:31:24

The Pierre Guillaumat was largest for six years?! Why did they scrap a ship that wasn't in service very long? I mean, that ain't right.

Tankers tend not to last all that long. Mainly because they pay for themselves very quickly (Particularly a few years ago, looking back there were so many huge tankers built that were scrapped a few years later). Although now I think the way the economy is; tankers might have slightly longer lives...as companies won't be able to afford new builds like they used to.

Jack.

Ballast · « **Reply #13 on:** July 29, 2010, 15:17:25 »

I think there are other reasons involved to scrap a vessel so relative shortly after the vessel got in service. Afterall the owner can really start to make money once the mortgage is paid off. I'm not sure about the regulations abroad, but here owners have to pay less tax if they invest their profit in their company (with others words; the company has to pay more tax if they keep the profit at their bank account). I'm not sure of the reasons in case of the Pierre Guillaumat, but the owner might bought her to ditch some money.

Denis · « **Reply #14 on:** July 29, 2010, 15:41:27 »

Quote from: matt5674 on July 29, 2010, 14:31:24

The Pierre Guillaumat was largest for six years?! Why did they scrap a ship that wasn't in service very long? I mean, that ain't right.

The Pierre Guillaumat had been ordered by SHELL France with 3 sisterships just before the petrol crisis. Shell even thought about cancelling the order due to the crisis. Finally, the 4 ships had been delivered, but only one had a decent life (the 3 others were scrapped beetween 1983 and 1986). The fourth, named Prairial, Hellas Fos, Sea Giant, was scrapped in 2005.

Several pictures of the Batilus (one of the 4 sisters), including bridge and engine control room, can be seen here :
http://www.aukevisser.nl/supertankers/id140.htm

oceandream · « **Reply #15 on:** July 29, 2010, 16:50:03 »

i see.

..
but not too sound rude but...
The topic is A whale...not the other worlds largest ships.

Im now talking about A whale not being the worlds largest ship(CNN said she was the worlds largest ship)and i say thats not true....

Ballast · « **Reply #16 on:** July 29, 2010, 16:58:01 »

Journalist have very often the tendency to be wrong when it comes to nautical news

oceandream · « **Reply #17 on:** July 29, 2010, 17:00:29 »

about i dont know..
Cause i fall asleep when i watch news $:-\$

Well its now emma maersk, the followed by QM2, Berge stahl and then A whale..
A whale is close but that close either

gibby12 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 29, 2010, 17:18:08 »

Quote from: oceandream on July 29, 2010, 00:29:26

we all thought that...
but now we hear theres no more oil gushing out

Your correct on that there is no more oil coming out of the gulf

now they just have to clean it all up but the problem is some of the oil has avaporated which is bad and if it stays in the water to long it will sink to the ocean floor killing all sea life down there

so they need to clean it up faster

oceandream · « **Reply #19 on:** July 29, 2010, 17:20:53 »

i know

...
there was a large red oil rig here some time ago and one of class mates came out of the beach water with oil concevered on here

That oil rig was the other side...around 900 meters at the other side and i believe its oil came into the beach where my classmates were gonna swim

thats the oil rig down there

gibby12 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 29, 2010, 17:31:09 »

oh wow so your freind came out of the water covered in oil?

oceandream · « **Reply #21 on:** July 29, 2010, 17:33:34 »

yes indeed...the oil could be seen in the water...unless you go in and come back out..you will be covered in dirty browblack oil

...
good thing the oil is away now

gibby12 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 29, 2010, 17:39:34 »

yeah thank god

Have you ever been stung by a jellyfish? im just ganna say it hurts like hell

oceandream · « **Reply #23 on:** July 29, 2010, 17:45:56 »

noo....never been stung by a jelly fish

but 2 months ago i stepped on one of these while walking in the water at the better

In dutch is it called a " Zee Appel" and it felt like lava going true my blood..

gibby12 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 29, 2010, 17:49:27 »

OWWWWW!!! looks like it hurt

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matt5674