Ship Simulator
English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: oceandream on July 28, 2010, 23:51:40
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Hii everybody.
I believe we heard on the news that the "A Whale" is now the worlds largest ship..
She is 340 meters long and has e bean of 60 meters.
I went back too look and saw with my own eyes that berge stahl has a lenght of 342 meters and has a beam of 63 meters..
Now if i hear that A whale is the worlds largest ship that is 340 meters long and berge stahl is 342 meters.
I say that that cannot be right :thumbdown:
I say Berge Stahl is now the biggest one, and not a whale.
If theres something that is not right not in the info here please tell me asap..
Kind Regards
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But hasn't Berge Stahle been scrapped though
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:o waat??
Why am i not hearing these things ??? :-\
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:doh:
Sorry, I thought she was the Knock Nevis. My mistake
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It's not really the dimensions of a ship that makes it the largest.
It's all about the space within the ship. Length is thereby very different from space.
And maybe the Berge Stahl has greater dimension than A Whale but maybe is that tanker higher than the Berge Stahl :)
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i see...a whale is an oil tanker but also a bulk carrier..
lets say she is 50/50.
Alto i still prefer berge stahl, cause she has a bigger draft
(http://images.vesseltracker.com/images/vessels/midres/Berge-Stahl-21442.jpg)
(http://i26.tinypic.com/245llba.jpg)
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I thought "A Whale" was the ship used for cleaning up the oil mess in the Gulf..
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we all thought that...
but now we hear theres no more oil gushing out
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Hi Ocean Dream,
A ship with the longest length doens't necessary has to be the largest ship. A vessel might be smaller in length, but can have a larger gross tonnage (GT). Technically she would still be the largest ship.
Ballast
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Hi all,
if we talk just about length, the Berge Stahl (nor the A whale) aren't the biggest.
The container ship Emma Maerk is 397m long, and the longest (sold for demolition at this time) was the Knock Nevis (458,45m after modifications). Even the Queen Mary 2 is a bit longer (345m) !
And the biggest ship ever build (The Knock Nevis has become bigger only after modifications) was The Pierre Guillaumat : http://www.aukevisser.nl/supertankers/id38.htm , 414m length.
A "fun" fact is when you read the Pierre Guillaumat was build in 1977 ... And scrapped in 1983 !
a few comparisons : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bateaux_comparaison2.svg
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The Pierre Guillaumat was largest for six years?! Why did they scrap a ship that wasn't in service very long? I mean, that ain't right.
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It probably took longer to build and design her...
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The Pierre Guillaumat was largest for six years?! Why did they scrap a ship that wasn't in service very long? I mean, that ain't right.
Tankers tend not to last all that long. Mainly because they pay for themselves very quickly (Particularly a few years ago, looking back there were so many huge tankers built that were scrapped a few years later). Although now I think the way the economy is; tankers might have slightly longer lives...as companies won't be able to afford new builds like they used to.
Jack.
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I think there are other reasons involved to scrap a vessel so relative shortly after the vessel got in service. Afterall the owner can really start to make money once the mortgage is paid off. I'm not sure about the regulations abroad, but here owners have to pay less tax if they invest their profit in their company (with others words; the company has to pay more tax if they keep the profit at their bank account). I'm not sure of the reasons in case of the Pierre Guillaumat, but the owner might bought her to ditch some money.
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The Pierre Guillaumat was largest for six years?! Why did they scrap a ship that wasn't in service very long? I mean, that ain't right.
The Pierre Guillaumat had been ordered by SHELL France with 3 sisterships just before the petrol crisis. Shell even thought about cancelling the order due to the crisis. Finally, the 4 ships had been delivered, but only one had a decent life (the 3 others were scrapped beetween 1983 and 1986). The fourth, named Prairial, Hellas Fos, Sea Giant, was scrapped in 2005.
Several pictures of the Batilus (one of the 4 sisters), including bridge and engine control room, can be seen here :
http://www.aukevisser.nl/supertankers/id140.htm
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i see. :P..
but not too sound rude but...
The topic is A whale...not the other worlds largest ships.
Im now talking about A whale not being the worlds largest ship(CNN said she was the worlds largest ship)and i say thats not true.... :thumbdown:
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Journalist have very often the tendency to be wrong when it comes to nautical news :)
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about i dont know..
Cause i fall asleep when i watch news :-\
Well its now emma maersk, the followed by QM2, Berge stahl and then A whale..
A whale is close but that close either :doh:
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we all thought that...
but now we hear theres no more oil gushing out
Your correct on that there is no more oil coming out of the gulf :2thumbs: now they just have to clean it all up but the problem is some of the oil has avaporated which is bad and if it stays in the water to long it will sink to the ocean floor killing all sea life down there :(
so they need to clean it up faster
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i know :2thumbs:...
there was a large red oil rig here some time ago and one of class mates came out of the beach water with oil concevered on here :o :thumbdown:
That oil rig was the other side...around 900 meters at the other side and i believe its oil came into the beach where my classmates were gonna swim >:(
thats the oil rig down there
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oh wow so your freind came out of the water covered in oil?
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yes indeed...the oil could be seen in the water...unless you go in and come back out..you will be covered in dirty browblack oil :(...
good thing the oil is away now :thumbs:
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yeah thank god
Have you ever been stung by a jellyfish? im just ganna say it hurts like hell
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noo....never been stung by a jelly fish :o
but 2 months ago i stepped on one of these while walking in the water at the better :evil:
(http://home.planet.nl/~ronoffer/duiken/foto/zeeland/stekelhuidigen/zeeappel1.jpg)
In dutch is it called a " Zee Appel" and it felt like lava going true my blood..
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OWWWWW!!! looks like it hurt
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it feels like a thousand knives in your foot :evil:
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Journalist have very often the tendency to be wrong when it comes to nautical news :)
Yeah they do...and it's very irritating as well ::)
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indeed...
if they a whale is the largest thing on the planet and emma maersk is 57 meters longer...it means we got a "POINT" here :doh:
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I thought "A Whale" was the ship used for cleaning up the oil mess in the Gulf..
I thought 'a whale' was a massive great fish.. :-\
It was a throw away comment, not a lesson in marine biology... ;)
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I say this is the a whale :evil:
(http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/gallery/100701/GAL-10Jul01-5040/media/PHO-10Jul01-235653.jpg)
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I thought 'a whale' was a massive great fish.. :-\
*cough a whale is a mammal, not a fish...
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eh?
At my school the teacher of biolegy told us a whale is a veeryy big fish and a mammal is a animal like a wallrus
TFM are you sure about that?
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eh?
At my school the teacher of biolegy told us a whale is a veeryy big fish and a mammal is a animal like a wallrus
TFM are you sure about that?
hehe trust me a Whale and Dolphins are mammals if you observe their tail fins are horizontal, fishes are vertical.
Also fish have Gills, whales and Dolphins must surface and breath air...
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i see....
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/08/19/opinion/19judson_whale480.jpg)
Info remembered...
resuming back 2 topic :evil:
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Well its now emma maersk, the followed by QM2, Berge stahl and then A whale..
Pin the TI class supertankers with the length of 379 m in between Emma Maersk & QM2! :P
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hehehe
Thanks ....i know the TI tankers are big but i just learned a new thing in maratime here :D
Drat!...the topic is awake again :evil:
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a little bit off-topic but read this
Pieter Schelte is the name of a ship that will be built by the Swiss-Dutch offshore company Allseas. The ship is named after the father of Allseas-owner Edward Heerema, Pieter Heerema Schelte, officer of the Waffen-SS and a pioneer in offshore business. With a length of 382 m and 117 m wide vessel will be the largest in the world. Of this size is as large as two supertankers and area equivalent to eight football fields.
Pieter will Schelte large platforms of some 48,000 tonnes at a time from their base to inform and transport, instead of in small pieces as is customary. The vessel will also pipelines for oil and gas can be put to a depth of 3500 m, and with a record speed of over seven kilometers a day.
In 2012, the ship probably in use.
The prognosis for 2011, which Allseas mentioned earlier against the media, can be taken with a grain of salt. This is because since 2001 the ship in principle "for two years" in use will be taken. In November 2008 there was no agreement on a shipyard. The turnaround time for building a ship (and crane systems) of this size is at least 3 years. On October 24, 2008 Allseas was announced that construction delays caused by the credit crisis. In June 2010 Allseas has announced the order with Daewoo. It is a sum of 454.5 million on a total of 1.3 billion euros.
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BTW: (sorry for the double post) There is a ship that is longer and wider its called the vale brasil
specifications
A Whale Vale Brasil
Type ship: Tanker Cargo
length: 340,-M 362,-M
beam: 60,-M 65,- M
Flag: Liberia Singapore
IMO Number: 9424209 9488918
Call sign: A8UA7 9V9127