Ship Simulator
English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: [RWP]DJM on May 09, 2008, 13:27:29
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Hiya all :)
Just in case you didn't know, Windows XP Service Pack 3 is now available ;)
You can use Windows Update to obtain it:
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
There is also a full standalone installer for it, available from the Microsoft website :)
Regards.
DJM.
Edit: WARNING!!! Please read these articles before installing this Service Pack:
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9086118
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9087199
Thanks to saltydog for the links :)
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There have been discovered some problems with SP3 on HP computers and computers with AMD cpu...at least in the Norwegian SP3 I don't know if it is the same with other languages.
The problem is that the computer is just rebooting itself all the time.
Fortunately I don't have this problem since I have Vista(which I surprisingly haven't had any problems with yet)
Just thought I should mention the SP3 potential problems ;)
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Hiya Lanedre :)
It's always good to get feedback on problems that could happen, so thanks for that ;D
I've actually had no problems with SP3, even when I tried the RC's a short while before the official release. I've noticed a small increase in speed since I installed it a couple of days ago too, so maybe I'm one of the lucky ones ??? :-\
I obviously use the English SP3 though, so maybe that's why everything seems ok ;)
Regards.
DJM.
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I also have installed Windows XP Service Pack 3, two days ago, without any problem.
Regards
Thanasis.
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Thanks for the message. Installed the Dutch version this afternoon, works fine. My laptop also seems to be a bit faster.
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Apparently, XP SP3 surpasses Vista SP1 in every aspect of performance ;)
I wonder why I haven't upgraded my OS yet.................. :D
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Apparently, XP SP3 surpasses Vista SP1 in every aspect of performance ;)
I wonder why I haven't upgraded my OS yet.................. :D
Because your dumb and don't like vista for all the flaws that people report that don't exist? :D
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Because your dumb and don't like vista for all the flaws that people report that don't exist? :D
:P
I'm clever, after the problems with XP (pre-SP1/SP2), so :P :D
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Hiya all :)
Just in case you didn't know, Windows XP Service Pack 3 is now available ;)
You can use Windows Update to obtain it:
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
There is also a full standalone installer for it, available from the Microsoft website :)
Regards.
DJM.
what is new in the SP3?
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You can see an Overview of the new features, at the Microsoft site ;)
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=68c48dad-bc34-40be-8d85-6bb4f56f5110&displaylang=en
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Maybe it was just me, but the first thing I tried after installing it was Ship sim. As long as that works ok, then that's fine with me. :P
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LOL, always a good thing to check ;)
I actually checked all my network settings, and all the boring tecchie stuff........maybe I should rethink my strategy, and have more fun ;D
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LOL, always a good thing to check ;)
I actually checked all my network settings, and all the boring tecchie stuff........maybe I should rethink my strategy, and have more fun ;D
i thnk i got the SP1, and im love the sp1. so i dont have problems ;D
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i thnk i got the SP1, and im love the sp1. so i dont have problems ;D
I'm surprised you can even run Ship Simulator :o
Service Pack 2 at least is essential now, but SP3 would be better ;)
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I'm surprised you can even run Ship Simulator :o
Service Pack 2 at least is essential now, but SP3 would be better ;)
i cant. im have too old Video Drivers :-[ :o
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I can't really help you out here, but if you post in Technical Support (after searching ;)), I could possibly help you out with any problems ;)
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I can't really help you out here, but if you post in Technical Support (after searching ;)), I could possibly help you out with any problems ;)
i have posted for long time ago. im gonna update the video drivers as soonest. ;D
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MS upgrades: Rule 1. NEVER EVER download an update until everyone else has tried it, found it doesn't work, bashed their heads against a wall and then found a workaround.
A few more months and I may even TRY to upgrade to windows 98 ;D
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A few more months and I may even TRY to upgrade to windows 98 ;D
LOL, that would just be seriously 'sad' using Win '98 or prior now :P :D
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Babbage differential calculation machine EVERY time :o
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Charles would be proud :D
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When I was in London last month, I went into the science museum (suffering badly due to the governments insistence that it can not charge) and actualy spoke to one of the engineers making a duplicate for the americans (apparently their engineers couldn't follow the plans... so he said) when they were building the one in london, they werent even sure it would work until it was built.
They did computer simulations which were, hmm, inconclusive.
Did you know half of Charlies brain is preserved in london? The other half powers the pentium 5
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On one of my earlier computer courses, I had to go into full research-mode for the history of the Babbage 'Analytical Engine'. Very interesting stuff ;)
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Ah thats a good point. Sorry for taking this OT... Was that the differential or analytical machine in London...
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They are one and the same ;)
It was called 'The Difference Engine, and 'The Analytical Engine' ;)
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Yes, but I can't remember which one was which.
And I can't get on wikipedia to check.
I'm using one of these wireless broadbands from vodafone... as soon as I try to access a second page it dies...
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Just to say I have a HP computer here in the UK and service pack 3 crashes it in fact it won't even load up XP afther installing it >:(
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Like I say, NEVER be the first to try an upgrade...
Have you had a look at micromush help site to see if there's any help there?
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LOL, that would just be seriously 'sad' using Win '98 or prior now :P :D
Oh dear. Guess who has Win 98 SE still running.....
Serious Sad Terry.
Mind you, I also have XP SP3 installed from about 6 weeks ago and no problems whatsoever. And I have Vista SP1 installed, also with no problems.
I have to say that in both cases, I didn't see much effect at all.
The Vista update" had been hailed as spectacular non-event, anyway.
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Not sad at all. Other than the Amiga (compare it to pc THEN, not now) Win 98 was the first decent OS to come on the market, imo.
The problem is that there are too many combinations of hardware all designed by different manufacturers who all have slightly (or greatly) different standards.
I say about the Amiga for a good reason. Back then, there was a choice of about 3 CPUs, bog standard graphic and sound (worked compared to a pc of that era) and there was seldom this sort of problem with upgrades.
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Im very happy that i have XP. Just look at the 95 background and xp background.
(http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/taouu/html/graphics/win95createdocs.png)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2vrzmma.jpg)
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I cant see the top one.
Still, I think it's more about what it does than what it looks like, personally.
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But in any case, my 98 SE desktop is spectacular. I have a picture of the world that rotates in real time. See piccy.
The ONLY benefit of Windows 2000 was that I no longer needed to reboot the PC every couple of days. Otherwise, there's little difference. With XP, there is absolutely no gain over Windows 2000. With Vista it's many steps back into the snake infested swamp.
I made 2000 look like 98. I made XP look like 98 and even my Vista looks like 98. So, I'm comfortable.
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Terry, I just had a snoop around for your background, and can't find anything like it. Do you know of a link where I can get it from (it looks gorgeous)? :)
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I made 2000 look like 98. I made XP look like 98 and even my Vista looks like 98. So, I'm comfortable.
Oi, Terry! I thought I had the 100% monopoly on being akward ::)
How do you get your backdrop to run an animation then? Is it native to windoze or some special programme? :o
Just because I'm akward (more so than you, OK ;D ) I'm going to set up my own server so I can run my website from the office- even though it's more expensive and slower than a commercial supplier.
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Oi, Terry! I thought I had the 100% monopoly on being akward ::)
How do you get your backdrop to run an animation then? Is it native to windoze or some special programme? :o
Just because I'm akward (more so than you, OK ;D ) I'm going to set up my own server so I can run my website from the office- even though it's more expensive and slower than a commercial supplier.
It took a bit of programming, but hey, I program using machine code, even for Windows. (Real men use Machine Code, not softie programs like C# or VB or .Net!).
Anyway, you're nowhere near as awkward as me. All of our servers run on PCs sat near to me (some here in office 1, others 8 miles up the road in Office 2). I also have my own Unix Server, located in London Docklands and watched over by Demon Internet for me (they re-boot it if it locks up completely - which is almost never).
I still use NT4 server as the PDC for all of our offices around the world. It has VPN and VNC channels, plus it run Apache Server and Filezilla FTP Server and Argosoft Mail Server and so on. I spend very little on server software, as you can see.
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Terry, I just had a snoop around for your background, and can't find anything like it. Do you know of a link where I can get it from (it looks gorgeous)? :)
Hi Jayshun.
It exists on my system in a strange format so that Windows 98 can use it. I'll take a look and see if I can either convert it or find the original source, then I'll post it here.
Back soon...
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Here it is:
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Go to the XP backgrounds via
Control Panel => Display => Desktop tab.
Select "Space" as the background and you may see this image.
I cannot recall if this was a background I added or if it came with XP, so you may not have it. If not, use the file below.
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I still use NT4 server as the PDC for all of our offices around the world. It has VPN and VNC channels, plus it run Apache Server and Filezilla FTP Server and Argosoft Mail Server and so on. I spend very little on server software, as you can see.
I'm sorry, Terry... But did you realise that this is the english forum... :o
I think a trip to peecee wurld is in order to buy a book "the idiots guide to deciphering Terrys technology"... Joking aside, yes, I've heard most of the terms but no idea how to set it up. Hopefully I will run out of enthusiasm for it before I start :D
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I'm sorry, Terry... But did you realise that this is the english forum... :o
I only speak Borg (see avatar)
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I only speak Borg (see avatar)
"PERsistence is futile"
Or as a MUCH better programme once put it "Resistance is USELESS" (when being evicted from a Vogon ship, anyway)
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I only speak Borg (see avatar)
When I eventually change the image in my avatar, that comment will look so stupid...
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When I eventually change the image in my avatar, that comment will look so stupid...
Only once you've changed your avatar? ???
;D
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Yeah. At the moment it looks like the supreme achievement of high intelligence.
If I change my avatar to an image of small wollen cardigan, the comment would look daft.
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But since you've written the statement "I only speak Borg" in English... ;D
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That's because of the universal translator of course. ::)
010010011111000 00111100001010010101 1001010101010 101111000000101010 111000000010101010 0001010101010 000010111101010100111010101010001010101010 010101010100010101 0101010101 0111110000010 10101010101111111 00000000000 111111111111111111000000
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That's because of the universal translator of course. ::)
I should have seen that coming. :-[
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010010011111000 00111100001010010101 1001010101010 101111000000101010 111000000010101010 0001010101010 000010111101010100111010101010001010101010 010101010100010101 0101010101 0111110000010 10101010101111111 00000000000 1111111111111111110000010
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[universal translator=on: benefit:Earthlings&otherLowIntelligenceLifeForms]
I have some "Space" screensavers. Planesoft make some excellent ones.
My wife buys them for me on my birthday and other occassions.
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[universal translator=on: benefit:Earthlings&otherLowIntelligenceLifeForms]
Earthlings AND low intelligencelifeforms?
Why imply disparity where there is none?
I tell you it's the last time I visit this damned planet. Planet Vogon is so much nicer at this time of day
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Earthlings AND low intelligencelifeforms?
Why imply disparity where there is none?
I tell you it's the last time I visit this damned planet. Planet Vogon is so much nicer at this time of day
{translator mode=on}
Actually it was Earthlings and other low intelligence life forms. I was including Martian scriglets and woophahs of course. Plus your fellow Vogon rimplzrghs! That goes almost without saying.
{translator mode=off}
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Did you see on the bbc news website about the auction of the worlds worst poetry-
some clever sod had in the comments section that the poet WASNT the worst and we all know the worst poet is paula nancy millstone jenings.
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*Cough* Service Pack 3 topic :P
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Yes, sorry DJM. :-[
Can I ask though, does SP3 come with added Marmite? ;D
OK Back on topic.
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Right, where's my gun :P
We should start calling you Mr. O/T ;)
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We should start calling you Mr. O/T ;)
That's an improvement over some of the names lately... :o
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Well, how about "Cuddlywuddlykins"? That was one a girlfriend used to call me (and still does).
There isn't a smiley icon with a wincing expression, is there?
By the way, SP3 is worth installing. It does seem to bring a little improvement in speed.
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Well, how about "Cuddlywuddlykins"? That was one a girlfriend used to call me (and still does).
There isn't a smiley icon with a wincing expression, is there?
By the way, SP3 is worth installing. It does seem to bring a little improvement in speed.
Maybe you can use some of this Terry
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goto this address and you haw 1000's of smiles http://planetsmilies.net/
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As mentioned before, SP3 apparently may cause problems on some computer-systems, as described in this article I just came across.. Don't know if there is a patch for it yet..;)
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9086118
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Some serious issues there saltydog :o
I noticed another article on that site, relating to Symantec products too, not a good situation at all ::)
Thanks for the link ;)
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I've now updated my first post in this topic, with a warning :)
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I've installed SP3 on eight different PCs now, ranging from Laptops to Desktops, 1GB processors with 2GB Ram up to Quad core 4GB RAM. Norton 2003, 2004, 360, AVG 7 and AVG 8. Not had any problems yet.
I have had a couple of clients report problems, but each time, it turned out that the problem was caused by some other underlying problem (disk errors and "iffy" RAM).
By and large the SP should work OK for the vast majority of people. That doesn't help if you're one of the tiny minority of course...
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Same here Terry. I've installed Service Pack 3 on this PC, and my server without any problems ;)
2 members of my family have also installed it, same result :)
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I think I'll just wait for Microsoft to "flip the switch" for the automatic update.. ;)
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A sound plan saltydog ;)
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I think I'll just wait for Microsoft to "flip the switch" for the automatic update.. ;)
That process is already under way. As usual, the English / American language ones go first and the other languages get updated over the following weeks. It should be with you soon!
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Running SP3 no problems ;)
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Running SP3 no problems ;)
Dito :)
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mee to. i did install i a few weeks ago ;D
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Running SP3 no problems ;)
I can say the same.
Running Vista Ultimate no problems. :P ::)
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And just to break the jolity, my wife installed SP3 on her Rockwell Gaming Laptop and it screwed up completely! ::) :'(
There is a bug with Laptops particularly (although it could affect other PCs) which can mess up the biosinfo.inf file. When that happens you can't even get to safe mode.
I had to boot it using a special version of Unix that I've developed that can access NTFS and bypass all the security settings. I then had to do a sector edit and hand-insert the missing file. Then we had to re-install Windows XP as an over-write function.
The vast majority of people in this situation would have had to wipe the machine, loose everything and reload Windows. Not good.
So, SP3 can cause problems. The other 10 machines I've done it with were OK.
I did some reasearch and Microsoft have a page in their knowledgebase that sort of relates to this. It looks like you should manually disable your antivirus when installing SP3 to avoid this problem. I'm not going to test that, though. It took hours to fix it the first time!
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Hi terry when this happened did it happen straight after installing sp3?Recently my computer (after i cleaned out the fans etc)powers up but doesnt boot theres no bleep and no picture (its not the monitor or the graphics card ive tried swapping them) I installed sp3 a while ago so could it have messed up my BIOS?
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No, this was when restarted after the installation, it was immediately dead. All of the problems relating to SP3 seem to show immediately.
In any case, there's no way that a Windows update would stop you getting to the BIOS start up sequence (beeps, lots of writing on the screen etc before the "Starting Windows" sequence)
When you cleaned the fans you very probably moved a card or a memory chip by accident. It is almost always down to something coming loose.
If you know what you're doing, try pushing them down into their slots (carefully). If you're not absslutely sure, get someone who does know to do it for you. Don't risk it otherwise, as you might permanently damage your PC.
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i tried swapping out the 7600gs for my old 5500 card and still the same.Tried just 1 stick of memory still the same so im pretty stuck ???I also made sure i was touching the case BEFORE touching any components in the pc everytime so its unlikely anythings been fried by static
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ONLY IF YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING: Try taking the memory sticks out completely (observe proper anti-static precautions whenever you touch anything inside the PC, of course).
If the PC beeps, then you've found the problem. Try reinserting carefully.
If that fails, it's probably worth taking it to a computer shop and getting them to wiggle things around for you.
It is possible that something came loose and its blown some other component. Could be anything from processor downwards. Could even be a missing voltage from the PSU if something got shorted out.
Sorry. :'(
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Okay yeah im pretty sure its busted but thanks anyway.Im building up a new PC now anyways so w/e lol