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English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: Paddy134 on May 25, 2007, 23:00:23

Title: Ocean liners
Post by: Paddy134 on May 25, 2007, 23:00:23
If you favorate ocean liner isnt in my poll just reply.
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: ccr-lover on May 25, 2007, 23:38:02
My favourite will have to be SS Norway (ex. SS France).
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: marcstrat on May 26, 2007, 05:41:54
Greetings,
My idea is the QE2,but i'll vote for the SS Norway,because she is just broken down.Afther so many years of service.
Regards
Marc
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: marcstrat on May 26, 2007, 05:43:47
Greetings,
My idea is the QE2,but i'll vote for the SS Norway,because she is just broken down.Afther so many years of service.
Regards
Marc
I voted others,because the Norway is not in that list.
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: AriesDW on May 26, 2007, 11:01:44
I voted Normandie - however, do note, this is a duplicate topic - I made the original thread to this topic a couple weeks ago.
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: AriesDW on May 26, 2007, 11:03:27
The perfect Classic Ocean Liners Add On Pack (to me)

RMS Olympic
RMS Oceanic
RMS Queen Mary
RMS Queen Elizabeth
RMS Lusitania
RMS Mauritania
SS Normandie
SS France
SS Ile de France
SS Paris
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: Paddy134 on May 26, 2007, 12:00:20
I would love to see the ss normandie and the queen mary. you could recreate the rivelry that existed between the two of them.
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: AriesDW on May 26, 2007, 18:55:03
I UPDATED THE POLES

And I allowed everyone to vote TWICE so that their votes can reflect their interest. I will turn it back to 1 next week.
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: KDS on May 27, 2007, 11:11:30
of course the QM2.  :D
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: marcstrat on May 27, 2007, 11:16:12
Greetings,
For those who are interested,tonight on BBC1,there's a documentary of the "Lusitania".
This just to inform you,guy's.
REgards
Marc
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: AriesDW on May 27, 2007, 11:19:19
Greetings,
For those who are interested,tonight on BBC1,there's a documentary of the "Lusitania".
This just to inform you,guy's.
REgards
Marc

TOO bad I am in the US - it was not playing here.
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: KDS on May 27, 2007, 11:20:32
TOO bad I am in the US - it was not playing here.

I watch it and tell you about it Dave!  ;)
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: AriesDW on May 28, 2007, 00:08:34
I watch it and tell you about it Dave!  ;)
gREAT - THANKS.


I noticed RMS Queen Mary is more popular than RMS Queen Elizabeth. Why?
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: Shipaddict on May 28, 2007, 11:31:13
Queen Mary was considered a more homely ship I think. I read the Elizabeth had darker colours and stuff. :)
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: LucAtC on May 28, 2007, 11:47:05
 8)  SS United States  8)
Last ocean liner Blue Riband holder, landmark during the fifties, like the Superconstellation in the air.
Regards,
Luc
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: Paddy134 on May 28, 2007, 12:13:46
I dont like american ocean liners. They are too bland unlike the lavish european liners.
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: LucAtC on May 28, 2007, 15:32:27
I would love to see the ss normandie and the queen mary. you could recreate the rivelry that existed between the two of them.
That rivalry doesnt need  :-[ to be recreated, I think. It ended with the war, when Normandie was seized by the US, who renamed her to "La Fayette" and then burned  :( her in NY through carelessness. Less dramatic than a shipwreck at sea, it is still a very unhappy and not so glorious  ;D fate, reminding of some hostile and enduring feelings between allied people.
It is only 50 years later that a ship from Brittany Ferries received the same name, and on their site you will read "Named after the French region of the same name..." without  :-[ any reference to her predecessor, and that, although the name of La Fayette has been used by France and/or the US for naval vessels since WWII.
But of course the "paquebot" (packet boat  ;) ..) is a fantastic achievement, as a design and as a mechanical piece of art: steam/electrical propulsion...
My English being what it is, what does "bland"  ??? mean in relation to ships? Is it "soft"? Do you mean "Nordic design", or "Ikea", or "Scandinavian style" vs "kitsch", "1900" or "Victorian" .... I know not much (euphémisme) of design.

Regards,
Luc
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: mporter on May 28, 2007, 17:29:05
"bland" means "smooth", "lacking character," "not distinctive."  W/ reference to food, for example, it means something like "needs more salt."

I think this is a preference for Victorian design over the more "modern" (50s) design of something like the SS United States. That is a debate where there is no winning: "de gustibus non est disputandem".

Cheers,
Michael
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: LucAtC on May 28, 2007, 19:09:52
Thanks Michael, I was not that far... I too prefer cosier furniture than hard seats, and I agree that a Fifth Element interior, à la Mickey of the Disney Magic, or a Victorian one (if such a thing still exists) can appeal more than the Formica style, even for a ship.
The France had also such an industrial design interior, although it was regarded as brilliant.
The interior design of an ocean liner is indeed another factor of approach.
Regards,
Luc
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: Paddy134 on May 28, 2007, 21:52:59
The queen mary and normandie wernt done in the victorian design, they were done in art deco. All european liners after the SS ile de france were done in that style until the launch of the SS France in the 1960's.
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: Jeimii on May 28, 2007, 22:04:51
I would like to see the QM2, or the Poseio (from the 2006 film) ;D
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: LucAtC on May 29, 2007, 12:36:13
Hello,
Thanks to these explanations, I know a bit more over interior design styles, particularly that it is an intricate matter: streamline modern, modern, Art Deco,...
Perhaps do you know how the style of the pre-WWI, the 1900's is called? Golden Age?
And that of the interior of the SS United States? In these years, we said in French that it was "design". A variation from Art Deco of the 20s.
The meaning was somewhat pejorative, it reminded of poor quality fiberboard, cheap laminate, thin aluminium, uncomfortable seats, bad looking colors.
Laudative too: trendy, modern, light, easy to replace, american... (happy days)
Is there name for it? Industrial style?

Regards,
Luc
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: Shipaddict on May 29, 2007, 19:37:45
I'd love to see ALL the Cunard queens. (Elizabeth, QE2, QM2, Mary);D
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: rvm3192 on May 29, 2007, 23:54:56
I would like to see the QM2, or the Poseio (from the 2006 film) ;D

That would be fun projects to make
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: rvm3192 on May 29, 2007, 23:56:37
But maybe there should be an add-on pack for diffrent Lines. One for Cunard, French, Italian, etc. That way people could have the boats they want and more. Or to make it easier on people buying them
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: mporter on May 30, 2007, 00:27:51
But maybe there should be an add-on pack for diffrent Lines. One for Cunard, French Italian, etc. That way people could have the bots they want and more. Or to make ie easier on people buying them

Should? And who is going to model all these ships?

Bottom line is people are going to model the ships that interest them, and so they should, IMHO. It's awfully easy to sit back and say "they" should do this or that. Just remember that someone has to do all these things, and that "they" are baling as hard as they can just to keep up with more pressing problems like vessel dynamics.

So:  make it yourself, commission someone else to make it (big bucks!), or accept what comes along!

Cheers,
 
Michael
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: AriesDW on May 30, 2007, 03:13:41
Michael - what you said was a bit unappropriate. What was said before was merely an expression of ideas. Albiet, I see your point, I also see his. HOWEVER, it was not meant in a dictorial fashion. We, in the end, do have to take what is produced, however, collaborations can be formed as well as down the road, maybe commissions.
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: AriesDW on May 30, 2007, 03:15:50
I'd love to see ALL the Cunard queens. (Elizabeth, QE2, QM2, Mary);D

I would love to see the original Queens, ESPECIALLY Queen Elizabeth.
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: rvm3192 on May 30, 2007, 05:07:48
Should? And who is going to model all these ships?

Bottom line is people are going to model the ships that interest them, and so they should, IMHO. It's awfully easy to sit back and say "they" should do this or that. Just remember that someone has to do all these things, and that "they" are baling as hard as they can just to keep up with more pressing problems like vessel dynamics.

So:  make it yourself, commission someone else to make it (big bucks!), or accept what comes along!

Cheers,
 
Michael


I really think your attitude was just too harsh for just ONE idea. its not like it was the future of shipsim. I just thought of it as a way to keep the ideas collected. And who says shipsim needs 2 make one for every copany? maybe just Cunard or French Line. It was just an idea.
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: AriesDW on May 30, 2007, 05:59:53
I really think your attitude was just too harsh for just ONE idea. its not like it was the future of shipsim. I just thought of it as a way to keep the ideas collected. And who says shipsim needs 2 make one for every copany? maybe just Cunard or French Line. It was just an idea.

Okay. Enough said on this matter. Lets move on.
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: Paddy134 on May 30, 2007, 13:35:41
I think that we all should remember that these posts we put on this web site are just suggestions on what vstep should do next. You michel are making it seem like we are demanding that they comply with all our suggestions e.g an addon pack with ocean liners on it, but were not. If vstep wants to take notice of my post and make this addon then yay ;D, but if they dont, so what.
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: AriesDW on June 01, 2007, 11:22:01
They will take notice, if not already. However, now it is a matter of time and cost analysis before such packs would be produced. These packs would have to be deemed "profitable" before production and marketing were to be put into action.
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: AriesDW on June 07, 2007, 06:29:54
I would, however, like to assemble a group to make this product in collaboration with VStep. So if a team could be assembled, who knows, projects such as this may become a reality.
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: Jeff123 on October 16, 2009, 23:04:32
I voted OTHERS because I would like to see on an addon for Ship Simulator 2008, the Aquamarina, my favorite Great Lakes cruse liner. :captain:
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: RMS Canada on October 24, 2009, 17:39:19
So many great choices, I can't decide on one...
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: Jammy on October 24, 2009, 17:46:07
I find it strange to include the Mauretania, Lusitania and the Aquatinia when they are too similar to the Titanic and would make the ship diversity in the game not very good.
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: saltydog on October 24, 2009, 17:47:45
I would like to see DVO Marine's SS United States.. :)
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on October 24, 2009, 17:51:34
I would like to see DVO Marine's SS United States.. :)

Yeah, That's a lovely model...

I'd also like to see SS United States.

Jack :)
Title: Re: Ocean liners
Post by: Aad The Pirate on October 24, 2009, 18:11:29
SS Rotterdam (IV) and SS United States are my two fav's.
Maybe in SS2020 ?? Considering my age it would be just in time for my 78th birthday  ;D