Ship Simulator
English forum => Development corner => Topic started by: Captain Darling on October 18, 2007, 13:41:46
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hi, at the minute i am building a SeaCat in Sketchup... its my first build :D, i have done a bit, i have only started this today, but i tried doing it last night but it wasnt to scale and that one hull was bigger than the other... pics are below..
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/ScreenShot00030.jpg)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/ScreenShot00029.jpg)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/ScreenShot00028.jpg)
Comments please...
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looks good! ;D
great start
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Yeah that's pretty good. A ship like the Sea Cat is probably areally good place to start avtually because it has so few curves.
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a update...
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/ScreenShot00033.jpg)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/ScreenShot00032.jpg)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/ScreenShot00031.jpg)
comments again please?
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Actually, I don't think that's bad thus far.
I'm not a fan of sketchup models and find them usually poor. However, you have caputured the look of an Incat quite well. Whether it is scaled correctly, I don't know but it has the feel of being right.
Stu
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yeah it is scaled correctly.. it took time though, as the first time went rather wrong... which isnt a bad thing because it was my first go at Sketchup :)
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another update..
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/ScreenShot00037.jpg)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/ScreenShot00038.jpg)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/ScreenShot00039.jpg)
feedback please?
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I honestly do think that's progressing very well. I know you say that it's to scale, but does APPEAR too long. But that could be an illusion.
I certainly think you have captured the feel (as I said before). And no, at its present standard (as you said yourself) Vstep isn't going to put it in the sim. But if you keep working at it, or when finished start on version 2. I think you could have a very popular boat.
Stu
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at this minute my aim is to finish the ship to high quality and for it to be a model, not for Vstep to include it into the SS, but if it is popular enough then maybe, but thats not my aim.. Also you would need Sea Containers permission to include it into the game as the livery which i am applying to it would be the SeaCo livery. it does look a little too long, but thats the measurements i have got.. 74metre Incat catermaran..
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hi, does anyone have plans of an SeaCat? because that could be usefull..
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There IS someone on the forum who was/is part of the coastguard authority and has plans of ships in the English Channel for use in SAR situations.
Anyone remember who it is?
Stu
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I would just say that either the bridge is too large or the body too small, they look disproportional.
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in the next update which is when the exterier is done, i hope it will look more proportional, but it looks like that because the back end isnt complete in that picture.
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There IS someone on the forum who was/is part of the coastguard authority and has plans of ships in the English Channel for use in SAR situations.
Anyone remember who it is?
Stu
i dont know who it is, but i would like to know though :)
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SeaCat "Isle of Man"? Looks impressive! ;)
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SeaCat "Isle of Man"? Looks impressive! ;)
thanks ;D
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I really love the InCat 74m-type! I enjoyed some journeys on board the "SeaCat Danmark" several years ago, sailing between Denmark and Sweden. ;)
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ahh yeah, well the seacat IOM was sold to Sea Express being Sea Express 1, but it went back to the steam packet and this year had a collision on the mersey in liverpool, and is still on the mend at birkinhead in liverpool. I know this well because my Grandparents was onboard when it happened.
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Nobody injured, hopefully... :o
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well there was 3 minor injuries, it happened because it was foggy. My Grandma is adament she doesnt ever go on such a small boat, because she doesnt feel safe on it ::)
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Hello,
If anyone of the design team need any help with the Dover - Calais, Dover - Dunkirk or anything to do with the Dover Strait then please contact me. I am a Coastguard working at Dover and have a extensive collection of photographs or can just get new photographs straight away. The Coaastguard at Dover operate the Vessel Traffic Service (VTS) for the Dover Strait and therefore I can give you as much information as you need.
Best regards
Gordon
Luc
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Hello, Luc
ahhh thanks! ;D
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Trust Luc to know :D
Thanks Luc. That wasn't the post I was looking for (as helpful as it is).
He posted some schematic diagrams of the ships (inc. Pride of Bilbao that I was working on)
Stu
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Actually, I don't think that's bad thus far.
I'm not a fan of sketchup models and find them usually poor. However, you have caputured the look of an Incat quite well. Whether it is scaled correctly, I don't know but it has the feel of being right.
Stu
i knew it. you just hid it.my models DO suck
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Hello Stu,
Enjoy my friends.
(http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/5327/prideofbilbao18jc.th.jpg) (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prideofbilbao18jc.jpg)(http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1491/prideofbilbao26xn.th.jpg) (http://img113.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prideofbilbao26xn.jpg)(http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/3227/prideofbilbao33du.th.jpg) (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prideofbilbao33du.jpg)
(http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7055/prideofbilbao49wa.th.jpg) (http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prideofbilbao49wa.jpg)(http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6348/prideofbilbao52xg.th.jpg) (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prideofbilbao52xg.jpg)
All my plans are available here:
http://hangsim.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1466
???
This one perhaps?
Luc
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Okay, and here she is as a very nice model - sorry, seems to get off topic now... ::)
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Nice model boat! :)
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...like the vessel on your own sign... ::)
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Just like a copy! :o
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Hello Stu, ???
This one perhaps?
Luc
I vote LucAT for president of the world. Any objections?
Thanks Luc. I was hunting for ages for that. Well done.
Stu
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Okay, and here she is as a very nice model - sorry, seems to get off topic now... ::)
Yes, sorry another O/T
Nice model of the worlds best ship. Damned expensive last time I looked though!
Stu
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a update on SeaCat
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/ScreenShot00049.jpg)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/ScreenShot00050.jpg)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/ScreenShot00051.jpg)
comments please?
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Looking good James :)
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An update of the SeaCat.. updates include the back end.. the car deck.
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/seacat.jpg)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/seacat2.jpg)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/seacat3.jpg)
Comments please..
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I honestly do think that's progressing very well. I know you say that it's to scale, but does APPEAR too long. But that could be an illusion.
I certainly think you have captured the feel (as I said before). And no, at its present standard (as you said yourself) Vstep isn't going to put it in the sim. But if you keep working at it, or when finished start on version 2. I think you could have a very popular boat.
Stu
I havent altered the length at all, Does it still look to long?
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it looks really good!
I got a model (not verry detalid) but if you need I can fix pictures.. ;)
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Or look at the following book:
incat
The first 40 years
Baird Publications PTY LTD
ISBN: 0-9587013-6-9
www.baird.com.au
Pictures, plans, specs, everything...
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it looks really good!
I got a model (not verry detalid) but if you need I can fix pictures.. ;)
you have a model? it would be nice for some pics please?
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I havent altered the length at all, Does it still look to long?
No. Now that you've added the detail it looks closer. I'm not an expert on these things. It looks really good. It's one of the better ones to come from sketchup.
Stu
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I can get pixtures if a week or so (sorry, but I'am going away for some time)
hope it will be okey..
Like I said, it is not a very detalied model but it shore shows some good things :P
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ok thanks :)
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Its been a while since last update, so this is an update, it includes interia pictures ::)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/ScreenShot00057.jpg)
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/ScreenShot00058.jpg)
Main lounge:
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/ScreenShot00059.jpg)
Bridge:
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/ScreenShot00060.jpg)
Blue riband lounge lounge:
(http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee13/jdoo8/ScreenShot00061.jpg)
There will be stairs where the box is in the main lounge going up to the Blue riband lounge, which is connected to the bridge. Soon i'll be making stairs from the back to the main lounge deck.
Comments please?
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looks really good!! ;)
I'm terribly sorry but I can't fix pictures of my model.. :-\
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looks really good!! ;)
I'm terribly sorry but I can't fix pictures of my model.. :-\
Thanks for the comment, not to worry ;) , im customising it abit, due to i can't find any deck plans, and the incats had different interias in them anyway :)
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James, I think that is one of the better sketchup models I've seen. You've worked methodically through it.
I hope you will continue to completion with as much enthusiasm.
May I suggest though that rather than do the interior, go back over the exterior and try and add some of the smaller details. Normally I wouldn't even bother with a sketchup model, but I think this one is worth it.
Stu
EDIT: From what I remember of Hoverspeed (HS GB???) It was open plan with a viewing area behind the bridge which looked out aft over the main roof. There was a bar area in the middle and the toilets and car deck access were at the back.
Have a look on google. I'm sure you will find drawings and photos.
Stu
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Here are you seeing the real one.
Master Cat are a ship that seiling betvin Kristiansand Norway and Hanstholm Denmark in record speed about 120 min. The ferrys can take ca 180 Cars.
ca 660 passasjerer. The ship is 91,3 meter long wide 26 meter, seadepth 3.75 meter. buildingplase Tasmania, Hobarth, in 1998. Owner Master Ferries
http://www.masterferries.com/de/An_Bord/Bilder.aspx
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Hi,
James, I think that is one of the better sketchup models I've seen. You've worked methodically through it.
I hope you will continue to completion with as much enthusiasm.
May I suggest though that rather than do the interior, go back over the exterior and try and add some of the smaller details. Normally I wouldn't even bother with a sketchup model, but I think this one is worth it.
Stu
EDIT: From what I remember of Hoverspeed (HS GB???) It was open plan with a viewing area behind the bridge which looked out aft over the main roof. There was a bar area in the middle and the toilets and car deck access were at the back.
Have a look on google. I'm sure you will find drawings and photos.
Stu
Thanks Stu for the comment :)
Here are you seeing the real one.
Master Cat are a ship that seiling betvin Kristiansand Norway and Hanstholm Denmark in record speed about 120 min. The ferrys can take ca 180 Cars.
ca 660 passasjerer. The ship is 91,3 meter long wide 26 meter, seadepth 3.75 meter. buildingplase Tasmania, Hobarth, in 1998. Owner Master Ferries
http://www.masterferries.com/de/An_Bord/Bilder.aspx
yeah thanks for that :) but that is a different model. The one im building is a 74m Wave Piercing Catamaran.
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Hi
That are a werry beutifull ship to, you are werry good i 3d grapic making, my self can't i hope you get finish with the ship, mybe we will see hear in the next ship sim :)
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Hi,
Thanks Stu for the comment :)
yeah thanks for that :) but that is a different model. The one im building is a 74m Wave Piercing Catamaran.
Well James to say is the first tim i have seen this topic that ship is coming on fantastic. I hope u do release this ship as i been after it some time.
Thanks
Dan
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Basing on the last update, what exteria features would you like to see on the SeaCat ???, the reason why i am asking is because lots of these SeaCats were built with different exteria designs, and also can you provide a real life based pic of the feature thanks :)
I havent been working on the ship for a while because im busy. So not much has changed since last update. ;)
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Basing on the last update, what exteria features would you like to see on the SeaCat ???, the reason why i am asking is because lots of these SeaCats were built with different exteria designs, and also can you provide a real life based pic of the feature thanks :)
I havent been working on the ship for a while because im busy. So not much has changed since last update. ;)
Seacat Isle Of Man and Seacat Danmark As it's the ship i used to work on
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ahh, so you've worked on the route douglas to liverpool?
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Hi Jamesd01
I know that this post is a bit late now, but what I always find easier is to do the colours at the end, because you might miss out some detail which you need to do. Especilally if it was black or grey. I think thats why the first time it went rather wrong as you said in an earlier post. It happend to me with my Nore Challenger tugboat when I wanted to add the tyres in but had to delet a whole set of colours. Your model looks grand though!
Captain T.
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Seacat Isle of Man became Sea Express 1 and (after the incident in the Mersey) has been renamed to Snaefell. She is due to return to service on the IOM-Dublin/Belfast routes in April.
Would absolutly LOVE to see this vessel in Ship Sim, come on VSTEP :D
Have just travelled on Viking back home from Liverpool to Douglas this morning. Have travelled on her 3 times so far since the beginning of March. Would certainly love to have the old SCIOM in SS though
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Hiya Guys,
I'm begining to work on this ship again ;), an update coming soon ;)
Seacat Isle of Man became Sea Express 1 and (after the incident in the Mersey) has been renamed to Snaefell. She is due to return to service on the IOM-Dublin/Belfast routes in April.
Would absolutly LOVE to see this vessel in Ship Sim, come on VSTEP :D
Have just travelled on Viking back home from Liverpool to Douglas this morning. Have travelled on her 3 times so far since the beginning of March. Would certainly love to have the old SCIOM in SS though
She's back in service now :) Should I rename the project to Snaefell?? With the new colours??
Went on the Viking once when it was called SuperSeaCat 2, great journey :)
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Looking forward to seeing your model updated!!
http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=condor+10&gbv=2
We've got a 74m Incat operating in our waters - Condor 10. Nice boat and the most reliable out of the whole Condor Fleet! They have two other Incats, both 86m!
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Are you working from this plan?
http://www.incat.com.au/domino/incat/incatweb.nsf/0/80CE9D79F8463464CA257300001AF745/$File/4832001.pdf?OpenElement
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i so cant belive you are making this! its my joint favortie vessel along wit the viking! hehe i got sea sick on the one you are making lol, theres a picture of this in my sig lol, i wanted to take a look at the plans for evacuation because they are almost like blueprints. hehe i love these its looking great, hope to see this in SS08 soon!
just a question!: will it be Snaefell now as that is what its called now or its old name superseacat 1 or Sea Express 1?
some info about it: http://www.ferry-site.dk/ferry.php?id=8900012&lang=en
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSC_Snaefell
videos: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8_zusx9XpXA
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2BVQF8m4WA&feature=related
edit: pictures: http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42085000/jpg/_42085630_seaexpressone203.jpg
http://k41.pbase.com/o4/44/403544/1/54713296.111062.jpg
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Hiya Guys
Are you working from this plan?
http://www.incat.com.au/domino/incat/incatweb.nsf/0/80CE9D79F8463464CA257300001AF745/$File/4832001.pdf?OpenElement
No, That is a different model. Thanks for the plans anyway. :)
i so cant belive you are making this! its my joint favortie vessel along wit the viking! hehe i got sea sick on the one you are making lol, theres a picture of this in my sig lol, i wanted to take a look at the plans for evacuation because they are almost like blueprints. hehe i love these its looking great, hope to see this in SS08 soon!
just a question!: will it be Snaefell now as that is what its called now or its old name superseacat 1 or Sea Express 1?
Well if you get a chance to get blueprints or plans, I would very much appreiciate it if you could send me them?
I'm not sure if I will do it as Snaefell or SeaCat IOM, Im thinking of making a new model of the SeaCat IOM, As the one above is made in Sketchup and cannot be put in SS08, So hopefully I'll make a new model of it in better software like Gmax.
James
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Sorry, i dont have blueprints for the seacat at this time, i only have blueprints for the superseacat 2/Viking with seating plan
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If you are going to go ahead with this James, then can I just say I can't wait either, and that you should keep up to date with it, and call it Snaefell. :)
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I am thinking of making a model of VIKING. I would really appreciate it if you could send those plans to me, could you?
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Good luck
http://www.filefront.com/17023407/HSC_VIKING_General_Arrangement_Updated_April_2007.pdf
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Here are plans for SNAEFELL. http://www.steam-packet.com/NR/rdonlyres/8BFC4C85-6897-4435-B140-ECE21DD33B07/958/Snaefell_Menu.pdf
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its impressive,
i am very poor to sketch up models.
i really appreciate to all for this new idea.