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Title: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: VirtualSkipper on April 15, 2010, 14:59:59
Today, the 15th of April, the Titanic sunk 98 years ago on 15th of April, 1912

(http://2liesenborghs.be/6B/images/stories/artikels/marschall_-_rms_titanic_-_passage_to_eternity.jpg)
(http://chandrakantha.com/articles/indian_music/filmi_sangeet/media/1985_ship6.jpg)
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Wave Music on April 15, 2010, 15:02:39
May she rest in peace.
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: McGherkin on April 15, 2010, 15:08:01
Not to mention those who died aboard her.

RIP.
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Wave Music on April 15, 2010, 15:15:35
May she rest in peace.

Though people always ignore that & continue disturbing her peace every day.
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: saltydog on April 15, 2010, 15:16:20
A music..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MYzkBiJn5Y&feature=related
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Wave Music on April 15, 2010, 15:42:39
If someone needs to say something "useful" & "not heard before", bear in mind that it has been mostly all said here (http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,13724.0.html) & there (http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,7070.0.html).   So think of something new/interesting/original every year.  Otherwise it'll be plain boring. 
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Captain Best on April 15, 2010, 15:57:28
Though people always ignore that & continue disturbing her peace every day.
   Im sure if she wouldn't be founded at the ocean you wouldnt and other's won't even think or be interested about the story. The found of Titanic is the best thing happend to her. And the bodies in the ship is gone. The sea has removed it
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: saltydog on April 15, 2010, 16:01:35
Some guys found her some years ago and made a docu, since then she rusts in peace..
The Britannic looks more alive, with all kinds of marine-life growing on her..
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Wave Music on April 15, 2010, 16:03:48
   Im sure if she wouldn't be founded at the ocean you wouldnt and other's won't even think or be interested about the story.

The good side will be that there won't be > 40 pages of results after searching by "Titanic".
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: matt5674 on April 15, 2010, 20:07:28
Titanic will never be forgotten. I think that is why VStep put her in Ship Simulator, to keep her story alive. She set history on a different course after a loss of 1517 passengers.
(http://wormstedt.com/Titanic/titanic5.jpg)
Rest in Peace Titanic
1,517 Lost
706 Survived
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: darkcapilla on April 16, 2010, 00:22:49
 :(  :-[ :'( :'(
we must never forget. the Titanic and the Passengers. Who Lost Their Lives by over-confident. about the dangers of the ocean. :captain:
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: RMS Canada on April 16, 2010, 01:24:52
RIP Titanic and her passengers.

Also Millvina Dean (2 February 1912 – 31 May 2009).
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Shipaddict on April 16, 2010, 10:07:46
Titanic will never be forgotten. I think that is why VStep put her in Ship Simulator, to keep her story alive.

Or perhaps it was a good money earner as everyone knows about Titanic and they'd want to buy the game more. :P

RIP everyone who died.
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: sadsid († 2016) on April 16, 2010, 11:54:34
Hi All
My own thoughts on this titanic as a player vessel is of no value at all there are very few
missions that have been made or include her.
So if v-step were to leave the old lady out of extremes and put something more usable I
for one would be very happy.
                                                                                                    Eric
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: saltydog on April 16, 2010, 12:01:03
Blasphemy..!   :evil:
But I agree..It was nice to have the old lady in SS08, but I don't need to see her in future editions..
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on April 16, 2010, 12:11:04
Hi All
My own thoughts on this titanic as a player vessel is of no value at all there are very few
missions that have been made or include her.
So if v-step were to leave the old lady out of extremes and put something more usable I
for one would be very happy.
                                                                                                    Eric

Agreed!

Titanic is an FPS Killer, on multiplayer in particular. Maybe yes, she's a benefit to the game, because the vast majority of people know of the Titanic (Ie, the Movie ::)), and draws sales from that particular audience...The model is fantastic, but, I personally do not feel, as you say Eric, that she has great use, or significance, with the vast majority of the community here....I think.

I personally feel in exchange for Titanic, it would be nice to see for example, another Ferry. Something that people will use. Especially with the new Dover/Calais Environment!

Jack :)
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Wave Music on April 16, 2010, 12:17:13
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Agreed!

They could put her on Shipyard instead of including in SSE or in future. 
More place would be for floating cranes, dredgers, average tankers, VSP escort tugs, SR.N4 (beat you, Magerkin!), new AHTS, PSV, CSV, stand-by vessels...
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: saltydog on April 16, 2010, 12:18:13
The SS United States would be nice too, or the SS Rotterdam..
But I have a soft spot for VSP's, so it would be great to have a VSP tug in the future.. :)
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: McGherkin on April 16, 2010, 13:04:00
SR.N4 (beat you, Magerkin!)

No you didn't. I just wouldn't be posting ship requests on a topic which is in rememberance of those who died on Titanic.
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: saltydog on April 16, 2010, 13:07:17
It was broadly posted, also on the German, French and Dutch forum..
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: McGherkin on April 16, 2010, 13:12:40
So? It's still a rememberance topic.
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: saltydog on April 16, 2010, 13:17:37
Yes, that would explain why there are no replies there..
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Wave Music on April 16, 2010, 13:18:08
Then why not to use any of these 2 mentioned topics, change the title & continue posting there than starting every year a new one to repeat all what was said before?

http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,7070.msg250093.html#msg250093

If someone needs to say something "useful" & "not heard before", bear in mind that it has been mostly all said here (http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,13724.0.html) & there (http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,7070.0.html).   So think of something new/interesting/original every year.  Otherwise it'll be plain boring. 
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: saltydog on April 16, 2010, 13:36:48
So I guess May 6 is next..
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Wave Music on April 16, 2010, 13:40:25
So I guess May 6 is next..

SD, many topics are awaiting to be started everyday:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_maritime_disasters


 :-X

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_disasters
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: saltydog on April 16, 2010, 13:56:16
Masses of people die needlessly every day..  This Titanic thing is all romantic humbug..
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: whitestarline1912 on April 16, 2010, 14:30:52
Masses of people die needlessly every day..  This Titanic thing is all romantic humbug..

that is mean  >:(
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: saltydog on April 16, 2010, 14:52:23
Things  happen..

Adjusted for unecessary language.

Traddles.
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: McGherkin on April 16, 2010, 14:53:16
Pardon?
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Wave Music on April 16, 2010, 15:05:30
Shit happens..

You meant "Ship happens" ?  ;)
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: saltydog on April 16, 2010, 15:08:33
Yes, that's what I meant..Sometimes ships happen to bump into icebergs..
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Wave Music on April 16, 2010, 15:09:47
Yes, that's what I meant..Sometimes ships happen to bump into icebergs..

True.  (And no, I'm not Captain Cadet)
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: captain mcenzi on April 16, 2010, 16:57:51
Yes, that's what I meant..Sometimes ships happen to bump into icebergs..
It's horrible to die at sea, just think, you can't see nothing but your sinking ship, and whatever it struck. No offense, Salty but that was disreaspectful to those lost onboard the Titanic.  :-\
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: saltydog on April 16, 2010, 17:12:39
I feel sorry for those that drowned with Titanic, I feel respect for all soldiers that fought in WWII..
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: captain mcenzi on April 16, 2010, 17:22:59
you should respect both, both deserve it.
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: darkcapilla on April 17, 2010, 01:32:43
in remove the Titanic in future games. Have a buyer less. Know That You Can add more ships Without Removing Others That This Is Not GTA mod.  :-[
would remove Pride of Rotterdam for example? :-\
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: matt5674 on April 17, 2010, 19:09:05
So I guess May 6 is next..
May 6th is the Hindenburg disaster and exactly a day after is this:
(http://www.flatrock.org.nz/topics/history/assets/lusitania_7_may_1915.jpg)
And I don't know why everyone is wanting Titanic out of Extremes. VStep can get rid of high poly stuff from her, including the 2nd class staircase at stern. They can add a usable ladder that leads from a to b decks. I did notice that Mose of the whole Titanic kind of take some fps, but the 2nd Class Stairwell on slow or fast computers shows a fps drop.
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Minime on April 17, 2010, 19:56:33
just remove the ship from mp and an option for which ships to be installed when you install the game.
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Nathan|C on April 17, 2010, 20:02:10
I would rather have VSTEP spending time working on new interesting stuff (like a floating crane) than removing Titanics staircase :doh:
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Wave Music on April 17, 2010, 20:12:22
I would rather have VSTEP spending time working on new interesting stuff (like a floating crane) than removing Titanics staircase :doh:

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Nathan|C on April 17, 2010, 20:18:37
2nd one would suit me best :2thumbs:
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: mvsmith on April 17, 2010, 20:32:28
And I don't know why everyone is wanting Titanic out of Extremes. VStep can get rid of high poly stuff from her, including the 2nd class staircase at stern. They can add a usable ladder that leads from a to b decks. I did notice that Mose of the whole Titanic kind of take some fps, but the 2nd Class Stairwell on slow or fast computers shows a fps drop.

You are forgetting the many Titanic Fanatics who want Jason to add even more interior. You can’t please everyone.
I think a sensible compromise would be to leave Titanic out of the release and to make it available from the Shipyard for those who want it enough to purchase it.
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: McGherkin on April 17, 2010, 21:55:21
Considering they had to rebuild all the ships, they aren't going to rebuild Titanic if nobod yuses her. They would rather build something people WILL use. Like SR-N4...

That said, I do think there should be a liner of that period, but perhaps one of the faster ships to please the less experienced users.

I like Marty's idea of releasing Titanic through the Shipyard, at Vstep's leisure.
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Wave Music on April 17, 2010, 22:05:56
Cough!

They could put her on Shipyard instead of including in SSE or in future. 
More place would be for floating cranes, dredgers, average tankers, VSP escort tugs, SR.N4 (beat you, Magerkin!), new AHTS, PSV, CSV, stand-by vessels...
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Nathan|C on April 17, 2010, 23:52:38
Here's what I don't get: How does it HARM you to have the Titanic included? If someone doesn't like it, then just don't use it. A lot of people are like "I hate SS because it has Titanic". How does that make it any worse? Like, seriously. If you don't like it, just don't use it. I've never seen someone say "I don't like SS because it has the Pride of Rotterdam". They just do it to get the Titanic fans upset or so that they won't seem like 'all the rest'.

Isn't it better to have MORE ships available by default? Don't forget, a lot of people bought this game for the purpose of sailing the Titanic. A lot of people won't admit it, but it's true. I'm sure SS didn't loose any customers because it had Titanic included..::)

It "harms" us because we suddenly get a forum full of Titanic topics such as "campaign for a whole new light on the Titanic!" and "oh no! a bench is missing on the Titanic! change it or I will force a boycott against all VSTEP products!". Besides, she doesn't add any value to the game as a simulator. Not many people training for a career at sea are going to be working on a steam powered ocean liner. As people have said before, it would benefit more players if VSTEP were to spend time on things that are of use such as floating cranes and general cargo ships instead of modifying Titanic which I think is required to get the ship from SS08 to SSE?. The only downside I can see at the moment is that the large amount of time that has been spent on the current model would be put to waste. But, going back to the beginning of my post, Titanic really is just eyecandy in my opinion.

P.S I don't not like Titanic, it's a beautiful ship.....and that's it ;)
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Nathan|C on April 18, 2010, 00:01:03
WM, Ive opened a new topic here to continue the discussion

http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic,18500.new.html
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: mvsmith on April 18, 2010, 00:52:43
Hi Nathan,

You could add another irritation: Those endless demands for her sisters. Especially from those that claim it requires only a simple repaint, oh and maybe some more lifeboats and removing the enclosure of the promenade deck. 
I had to explain to someone via PM that the lifeboats aren’t painted on.

Actually, Titanic is one of the better ships for learning to navigate well, but I suspect few people bother. There have been few good missions for her, except for the plethora of mission the CMMs receive consisting only of one or more Titanics and one or more icebergs.

It is a beautiful model, but it requires a large amount of work to get it into Extremes. If she were actually used, I would say it might be worth the effort.

Regards,
Marty
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: darkcapilla on April 18, 2010, 00:55:16
good as ye are steamed to remove the Titanic ship simulator.
this is not my place I leave the forum. and more after seeing this: http://80.95.161.114/shipsim/forum/index.php/topic, 18500.new.html  :'(
it seems that you are making me very badly without goodbye I'm out of here. I will not buy SSE.
Good luck to you all. here anyway no one understands me. :'(
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: darkcapilla on April 18, 2010, 01:19:02
Please do not leave. :)

I can assure you, they are not taking Titanic out of SSEx. It's just a few members here who like to get people upset by claiming VSTEP should remove her. Clearly it's worked to drive people away. >:(

but in the end you want to remove the Titanic games get better future can not be here when that happens. and why not by The Shipyard, because there are people like me who do not have a credit card or PayPal to buy it. why can not buy or Elbe nor Furie.  and I can not play them funny.  :-[
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on April 18, 2010, 10:03:08
that is mean  >:(

No it isn't...

That's the harsh reality of life, people die...Granted, Titanic was a big maritime disaster, but it was almost 100 years ago, and there have been greater losses of life both at sea and on land :-\

As SD said, 'Titanic' was jazzed up by the movie, the idea of two people who never existed falling in love and all that lot...Sure, She was one of the biggest floating objects on the sea in her time, and she sank. That makes news. And it still does. It was tragic. But if it were not for the movie, I do not think Titanic would of captured peoples imaginations as it has done now - not in the 'Modern World', so to speak.

Jack.
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Traddles on April 18, 2010, 11:43:20
Marty has a very valid point there. How many of the "Titanic" fanatics have actually sailed a "Titanic" mission? ??? Looking at the records, the answer to that question could be answered by totting up the number of fingers on two hands. Out of 49,000 members, who are presumably players, :P that amounts to vitually none. Actually handling the model, rather than feasting ones eyes on her, is an excellent way to learn how a large vessel without bow thrusters and all the modern aids, actually was navigated. The model is highly detailed and looks wonderful, but as a player ship she is hardly ever used.
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: mvsmith on April 18, 2010, 15:31:00
Hi Shane,

I don’t think “removed” is the right word. Extremes is a new game that initially had no ships to be removed. Ships are added with considerable effort.
It is a question, rather, of omitting or postponing the addition of a ship for technical reasons based upon weighing the utility of the ship versus the difficulty and the possible impact on the release date.

Regards,
Marty
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: darkcapilla on April 18, 2010, 18:57:53
one thing I have to say. I'm no fan of the movie. I knew him. in photos and their investigations of series. I started drawing him almost always. :angel:
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: Kapn Jonah on April 18, 2010, 19:01:28
Him..? If your referring to the vessel its her, people make this mistake often and try to argue, however, ships are never "Him" or "He" (Masculine) they are "Her" or "She" (Feminine).
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: McGherkin on April 18, 2010, 19:34:32
Note that they are not referred to as 'it' either.
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: mvsmith on April 18, 2010, 20:09:36
I think the question here is whether or not she's worth the effort. What do you think, Marty?

She’s an excellent ship, Shane, and worth an effort to put her in the simulator. The question is: Can the developers make that large effort now, while they have a very large swamp to drain.
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: darkcapilla on April 18, 2010, 21:29:56
Him..? If your referring to the vessel its her, people make this mistake often and try to argue, however, ships are never "Him" or "He" (Masculine) they are "Her" or "She" (Feminine).
mm if i related to Titanic. errors in the translators.
Titanic anyway not to blame for the delay. anyway just changed the waves pss see if there is a big change and pass a vessel of the same graphics engine almost costs nothing. and less if you do not put anything back to the ship. watching videos and pictures remain the same no change in sight :(

I worked in different engines and graphics and does not cost me anything to change it to another.
the trouble is that most things are put on ships. that is another thing .. :evil:
Title: Re: 98 Years Titanic
Post by: mvsmith on April 18, 2010, 22:35:16
Has anyone questioned whether or not the effort has made a huge dent? I mean, as far as I know I haven't heard that she was the cause of any delays. Is there something I'm missing? ???

Yes you are missing something, but I’m bound by a Non-Disclosure Agreement not to discuss the details.
At the proper time VSTEP will enlighten you.