Ship Simulator

English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: mflare on March 30, 2009, 21:21:19

Title: Shipsim 2010
Post by: mflare on March 30, 2009, 21:21:19
Why is there no news about shipsim 2010 here if it is to come this summer?
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: Shipaddict on March 30, 2009, 21:25:05
Because it helps train people to be patient. :)

We had a teaser back in December, and I'm sure VSTEP are working hard on it. ;)

For all we know some news could be posted tomorrow. :) (I'm not saying that news will be posted tomorrow if anyone read that wrong.)

SA :)
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: RJS87 on March 30, 2009, 21:25:24
I don't have a clue..
i only can tell you, that you'r not the only one dying to know ;p
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: mflare on March 30, 2009, 21:27:35
 ;D
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: Mad_Fred on March 30, 2009, 21:29:00
Hi y'all,

There isn't much to show at the moment, but VSTEP is working really really hard on both the Pro release and SS10.

There will be news, well.. when there is some!  ;D

And the summer.. well, don't expect it to hit the shelves on the first day of summer. That might be too optimistic!


Fred
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: mflare on March 30, 2009, 21:30:21
Thanks for the answer
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: Mad_Fred on March 30, 2009, 21:30:46
No problem!  :)
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: The Captain on March 30, 2009, 21:32:21
And the summer.. well, don't expect it to hit the shelves on the first day of summer. That might be too optimistic!


Fred

Awh man! That means I have to wait like another month untill it is released onto Amazon for the non- European countrys >:( :( ;D.
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: mflare on March 30, 2009, 21:33:26
I was afraid pro version was given priority as it may bring in more money :lol:
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: sadsid († 2016) on March 31, 2009, 07:53:42
Hi All
If you look at play.com and others it says shipssim2010 will be due
Q3 september this year
                                                              Eric
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: matt5674 on March 31, 2009, 08:31:33
Well I think those other places are lying about the due date. VSTEP holds true information and the others know little of Ship simulator
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: mvsmith on March 31, 2009, 08:48:15
It will certainly be no sooner than September, and could be much later.
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: Ncena1 on March 31, 2009, 12:11:35
Doh :-\
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: mflare on March 31, 2009, 13:23:21
as I feared :o
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: Captain Darling on March 31, 2009, 15:09:17
Well I think those other places are lying about the due date. VSTEP holds true information and the others know little of Ship simulator
The release info in the teaser video is only a estimate..
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: Mad_Fred on March 31, 2009, 15:17:41
Indeed it is..

Software development is not an exact science.. You can only plan so much, and draw a conclusion in the form of an estimated release date.

But along the way, all kinds of neat (and most likely not so neat) surprises pop up, that can make the previous estimate a little optimistic. And it usually only works in one way.. shifting the release to a later estimated date.

This is not unusual, it happens with a lot of WIP's that I have seen or been a part of..   

But it's when people on forums, start putting out dates that were mentioned once as very early guestimates and telling everyone it will be released for sure, that people pick up on that and make a fuss..   ;D

Simple fact is, that there are many more developers NOT keeping to the estimated dates, than there are that do manage to pull it off... (and I reckon in the latter case, often there is pressure from certain fronts, that makes for worse quality, and I know what I would prefer..)




Fred.
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: JHB on March 31, 2009, 15:37:14
It will certainly be no sooner than September, and could be much later.

was that a official leak? :D :D
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: mvsmith on March 31, 2009, 16:54:03
was that a official leak? :D :D

Hardly a leak, just a sensible estimate based upon long experience in such matters, and a realization of how full VSTEP’s plate is.
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: mflare on March 31, 2009, 16:56:54
will it be more updates to ss08 before launching ss2010, such as boats?
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: RMS Canada on March 31, 2009, 17:04:21
Urg, don't remind me of SS10.  >:(

Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: Mad_Fred on March 31, 2009, 17:25:52
Urg, don't remind me of SS10.  >:(



That's a weird statement about a game that's not even far enough in it's development for anyone to have a concrete opinion about it..    ::)

mflare; I wouldn't hold my breath...I don't expect any more shipyard releases..


Fred
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: mvsmith on March 31, 2009, 17:32:54
will it be more updates to ss08 before launching ss2010, such as boats?

That would depend upon how much VSTEP wants to delay the completion of SS 2010 in order to add things to SS 2008. One might expect a final update to 2008 to fix some things, but it would make little sense to add anything that is planned for 2010.
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: JHB on March 31, 2009, 17:41:20
I hope VSTEP releases a demo of SS2010 before the final version (just like several other game companies does) so we at least can check if there is any big improvements from last time ;D

*cough* you know, I'm a very sceptical person :D
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: RMS Canada on April 01, 2009, 16:59:06
That's a weird statement about a game that's not even far enough in it's development for anyone to have a concrete opinion about it..    ::)

mflare; I wouldn't hold my breath...I don't expect any more shipyard releases..


Fred

It's because Fred, I may not be able to get a copy once it's releasted.
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: Mad_Fred on April 01, 2009, 17:04:01
How come? Financial reasons?    :-\
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: RMS Canada on April 01, 2009, 17:17:07
How come? Financial reasons?    :-\


No, nothing to do with financial reasons.  The answer, finding it in the first place.  I was lucky enough to get a copy for my birthday last year from EB Games in the Orillia Square Mall.  Since then, I looked in the same store where my copy of SS08 was found and there aren't any more copies.  What's worse, SS08 doesn't seem to be sold in such stores like Walmart, Zellers, Toys 'R' Us, etc.
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: Captain Spencer on April 01, 2009, 17:29:35
No, nothing to do with financial reasons.  The answer, finding it in the first place.  I was lucky enough to get a copy for my birthday last year from EB Games in the Orillia Square Mall.  Since then, I looked in the same store where my copy of SS08 was found and there aren't any more copies.  What's worse, SS08 doesn't seem to be sold in such stores like Walmart, Zellers, Toys 'R' Us, etc.

What's wrong with the download option? You can be playing the game 30 mins after your have paid and downloaded the game. I don't have a disc and I don't mind it that way ;)
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: Ballast on April 01, 2009, 17:36:32
No, nothing to do with financial reasons.  The answer, finding it in the first place.  I was lucky enough to get a copy for my birthday last year from EB Games in the Orillia Square Mall.  Since then, I looked in the same store where my copy of SS08 was found and there aren't any more copies.  What's worse, SS08 doesn't seem to be sold in such stores like Walmart, Zellers, Toys 'R' Us, etc.

I think it will be back in the store for a while when SS10 comes out  :)
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: JHB on April 01, 2009, 18:51:29
Some people don't have VISA card or Master Card you know, you must eat a lot of food and reach a certain age before you can get those cards ;D
So maybe it's time to take another fight with mom and dady over the kitchen table at dinner? :D

*just kidding*
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: The Captain on April 01, 2009, 21:33:55
SS is also sold at Amazon.com about a month after it's release. You can always get it there.
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: J3nsen on April 02, 2009, 00:56:22
Never downloading it, everything in orginal cover! Best way!  :thumbs:
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: The Captain on April 02, 2009, 02:17:17
I agree. That way you get a manual for game information and you don't have to go pull up anything. Then you also don't have to go through the process of installing it by download if you ever want to re-install a game. Too much blah involved in downloading.
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: bsm2003 on April 02, 2009, 02:19:21
I used gamersgate and they allow you to keep the download on your computer in-case you may need to reinstall no re-downloading it and having to wait.
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: The Captain on April 02, 2009, 02:22:52
Never heard of that system before. But if you unistall it, you must get rid of any files relating to the game. How do you keep it on your computer?
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: Captain Spencer on April 02, 2009, 12:04:53
Never heard of that system before. But if you unistall it, you must get rid of any files relating to the game. How do you keep it on your computer?


The download installation file is not removed when you remove ship simulator from your computer. Don't worry about that :)

To be honest guys, if you are able to pay for the game online, and have a fast internet connection I don't see why people should avoid having the 'CD' as it were. As long as you download the game once, and save it either in a safe place or on another drive you should be absolutely fine. If you want to install the game again, just run the installation file you downloaded :)

Simple, isn't it?
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: mvsmith on April 02, 2009, 15:47:59
When downloading some programs—not necessarily SS—the instructions say to “click Run or Save”. If Run is chosen, the installation file is downloaded to a temp location and is removed after the installation is complete. One needs to pay close attention to such directions.
The installation file can be saved to a CD or a DVD, or simply moved to a safer place on the HD—perhaps on a different computer.
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: RMS Canada on April 02, 2009, 17:02:20
People,

For starters, I DON'T ORDER ONLINE BECAUSE I DO NOT HAVE PAYPAL OR A CREDIT CARD TO PAY FOR!!

That's the reason.
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: Mad_Fred on April 02, 2009, 17:12:07
Fair enough, I'd say. That's not uncommon..

Isn't there anyone you know, in your family perhaps, that you can hand the cash, after which they order it for you that way? 

I know a lot of players that solved it that way, because they were either too young to do it themselves yet, or do not trust online shopping, etc..

Just a thought..

Fred
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: RMS Canada on April 02, 2009, 17:25:53
Fair enough, I'd say. That's not uncommon..

Isn't there anyone you know, in your family perhaps, that you can hand the cash, after which they order it for you that way? 

I know a lot of players that solved it that way, because they were either too young to do it themselves yet, or do not trust online shopping, etc..

Just a thought..

Fred

Mmmm, well I have to big sisters who order online, Jessica and Katie. I do have a big brother named Raymond (lives in Ottawa) who tried to get my New Horizons for Xmas 2008 but couldn't find a single copy. 

I may ask my father if he can get New Horizons for my upcoming birthday (he can't order online, but he could drop by EB Games and ask them to order a copy).  I don't know when SS10 is expected to be released and if I plan to get it, I'll have to make sure my PC can handle it (I had to purchase a used computer and upgrade the old graphics it with a new one so I could play SS08). 
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: mvsmith on April 02, 2009, 21:38:38
Hi RMS Canada,

If you are considering getting NH, may I suggest that you see if you can get CE (Collector’s Edition) instead? It has additional material that you may find of interest: A printed Captain’s Journal and a long video showing details of the new features in SS 2010, along with demonstrations by some of the developers. It also makes the updating process simpler if you ever have to re-install.
I mention it because some seem not to have been aware that it is available.
Regards,
Marty
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: TerryRussell on April 02, 2009, 22:18:32
In the real world, if you want it, you gotta pay for it. If you don't pay for it, you don't get it.

Quite simple, really.

Basic principle of trade, is it not? "Fair" is of no relevance at all.
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: TerryRussell on April 02, 2009, 23:22:31
If they want it enough, then yes.
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: Captain Darling on April 02, 2009, 23:36:36
I've been told by a few users that the captains journal isn't very good. And is just paper..
The only thing out of the CE that's even appealing for people is the making of video.

Who in their right mind would buy another copy JUST for the video for €30? I could get 2 much more interesting DVD's for that price..
(Presuming they already have SS+NH and shipyard items.)

Yeah it might be alright if I had a bank full of money, but I don't and I certainly wouldn't waste €30 of my money on another SS+NH just to get that video..
Even though the video appeals to me, the price doesn't.

EDIT: Just to add aswell, I might aswell wait for the SS10 CE comes out for the goodies in that instead of using my money beforehand.
Just means VSTEP will get my money later.... Who knows, they may not even be around then, with this global crises.
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: TerryRussell on April 02, 2009, 23:51:38
Ah, you obviously don't want it enough...  ;)

Who knows? Maybe Vstep will be around, but we won't?  ;)
Title: Re: Shipsim 2010
Post by: RMS Canada on April 03, 2009, 16:47:03
Hi RMS Canada,

If you are considering getting NH, may I suggest that you see if you can get CE (Collector’s Edition) instead? It has additional material that you may find of interest: A printed Captain’s Journal and a long video showing details of the new features in SS 2010, along with demonstrations by some of the developers. It also makes the updating process simpler if you ever have to re-install.
I mention it because some seem not to have been aware that it is available.
Regards,
Marty


That's a good idea; I'll ask my father to get it for my birthday.  And who knows, maybe I'll find a copy of CE while on my New York City trip  ;D

Thanks Marty!!