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English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: Master Captain on January 21, 2009, 00:17:40
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well its official, at just after 12pm Eastern standard time, President obama was sworn in, heres the video,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5-oQ6ouZts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5-oQ6ouZts) he messed up a bit, but i'd imagine hes nervous with 2 million people in DC and millions of others watching on tv. :D
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Yes, he will make a great preisidant, and where all human we all make mistakes ;) so hopefully hell be a great presidant
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yea i think he'll be great ;D
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I'm proud to be part of a nation that has such a great new leader.
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I'm proud to be part of a nation that has such a great new leader.
And such a pretty first lady..... :police:
jk
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I reckon he just rehearsed that little mistake... I think he faked it, so the American public do not have to get used to a President with a proper attention-span right away.. :P :laugh:
Just kiddin'
Anyway, congratulations on your new President, my American fellow forum members!
Fred.
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I reckon he just rehearsed that little mistake... I think he faked it, so the American public do not have to get used to a President with a proper attention-span right away.. :P :laugh:
Just kiddin'
Anyway, congratulations on your new President, my American fellow forum members!
Fred.
What is the dutch president called and how does he transition?
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Considering the many nearly impossible problems he will inherit, his mistake was in showing up. Perhaps he should have sent Bush a note saying: “Unpackâ€.
I think if anyone can handle it, he can. I wish him luck.
It was a long time coming, but I think it has dispelled at least some of the negative feelings about the US.
I thought the Netherlands was a Monarchy.
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We indeed don't have a President, we have a Prime-Minister. Like Britain, we have a Queen, who is merely a figurehead though. We're a 'constitutional monarchy'.
Our Queen is Queen Beatrix Wilhelmina Armgard van Oranje-Nassau, our Prime Minister is called Jan-Peter Balkenende.
The members of parliament are voted for.
Fred
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For me, I love the UK "transition". It is one of the most abrupt in the world. The instant that the voters decision is known, the Prime Minister and Chancellor of the Exchequer leave 10 & 11 Downing Street, to be replaced by the new incumbents. (assuming they lost the election of course). The removal vehicles are always stood ready during a General Election.
Not like the carefully planned movement of Presidents in the USA.
Of course, we don't vote for a Prime Minister. he is simply the leader of the winning political party. He can be changed by a vote within that Party, without involving the electorate. The change from Toothy Blear and Grunty Brown being an exmaple. (Sorry. I meant Tiny Blair and Gordon Brine, didn't I?). They sliced it up between themselves, told the party sheep how to vote, and hey presto, instant new Prime Minister.
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One way in which our transitions are accomplished in a better manner than in the UK:
During the inauguration ceremony, someone changes the sheets in the White House.
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Rofl! They send the monkeys into clean the place up. Beer bottle out of the trash can in the oval office! By the end there would just be bottles of tequila (to-kill-ya) in there though...
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Well I think he made up for his slip up with his great speech. It's almost as if he wasn't reading it :). He's already started with Guantanamo Bay
Congratulations America you've got a great President
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To all US forum members:
Congratulations to your new president.
He is the living evidence that the American Dream can become reality for everybody born in the U S of A
I sincere hope for the interest of all mankind, from every Nation worldwide, that he can do what he promised. And hopefully he will be President for at least 4 years.
Regards
Aad
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Cogratulations from Australia. I hope Dr King was looking down yesterday, for yesterday the dream came true!
God Bless America
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Congratulations USA, the dawn of a new time, Obama will be a brilliant President. :) Better than Mr.Brown of the UK anyway ;D
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I agree with you RMS,plus they know how to do it in style.Not like our boring government. ::)
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I agree with you RMS,plus they know how to do it in style.Not like our boring government. ::)
Our boring government dont know how to do anything, let alone do style! ::) So thats why I say:
JEREMY CLARKSON FOR PRIME MINISTER
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Lewis Hamilton for chancellor. ;D
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Guys Obama was not the one that made the mistake, he had his words down, the guy saying the words for obama to repeat messed up, and Obama was like "what did they change the oath and not tell me?"
Because even after he finnaly said it, he didn't repeat the guy.
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Obama is an upgrade to mister B. I think...
He sure has his work cut out for him.. ;)
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At the end of the day, they're just politicians. Only difference is Obama knows how to work the public approximately 1,000,000 times better than our (Britain's) current leaders. Add to that the fact that they all look like sleazy (expletive of choice), and I've got no motivation to vote because they're all the same. Before someone corrects me on that, I do know the differences, just making a point. :)
EDIT: Congratulations to the yanks here though, he seems like a decent guy. I'll be honest though and say, on a comedic level, I'll miss Bush. There's been many shows on tv over here over the last few weeks, showing his gaffes. I've got to be honest, some of them truly made me howl and I'll miss him for that. That's easy for me to say though because I'm across the pond, and am not affected by it!
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Lewis Hamilton for chancellor. ;D
Great britains new empire:
Minister of Education: Stephen Fry
Minister of Motoring: Richard Hammond
Minister of Food: Gordon Ramsey
Minister of how-not-to-wave-a-flag demonstrations: Boris Johnson
Minister of military affairs: Ross Kemp
Minister of the arts: Sir Michael Gambon
Minister of Sheds: James May
Ministers of Moderation:terry and Fred
Minister of Finance: Carol Vordemon
Minister of Foreign affairs: Sir Ranulph Fiennes
Minister of Justice: The Stig
Minister of Gloating: Gloat
Minister of Maritime affairs: Ellen Mcarthur
Minister of Cycling: Chris Hoy
Minister of Motorsport and Chancellor: Lewis Hamilton
Mayor of London: Me
Overlord and Prime Minister: jeremy Clarkson
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hehe, nice list there :D
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thanx! ;D
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Great britains new empire:
Ministers of Moderation:terry and Fred
I disagree.
I would not be a Minister of Moderation. My middle names are "Nuke- Em" and "Hang-Em"". My nickname is "Flog-Em". I'd have you horse-whipped for not putting a capital T at the start of "Terry"!
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;D
I have to decline, I'm allready the minister of silly walks in Holland.
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You hear about ex-presidents giving well-payed lectures after their term..
I wonder who would pay to hear Bush say anything.. :)
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ha! i'd want him to pay me ::) worst president ever!
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Salty, my mom has had Bush Senior talk at conferences once, he was a very nice guy, although his staff not so much.
They asked if they could film the session he said Sure! his staff said absolutely not!
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RMS it think you mean Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change: Jeremy Clarkson
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I disagree.
I would not be a Minister of Moderation. My middle names are "Nuke- Em" and "Hang-Em"". My nickname is "Flog-Em". I'd have you horse-whipped for not putting a capital T at the start of "Terry"!
Oh thats a shame, Ill make sure i hide behind the sofa if you arrive to have me horse whipped. Maybe You could be minister for Nuking and Hanging?
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I have to decline, I'm allready the minister of silly walks in Holland.
Could you expand your ministrary (if thats a word) to be minister of silly walks aswell? actually, come to think of it, we've already got Basil Fawlty for that! ;D
RMS it think you mean Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change: Jeremy Clarkson
But then who would be overlord?
Oh by the way:
Minister of Business oppurtunities: Sir Alan Sugar
Ministers of Sport: 2003 rugby world cup winning squad
Minister of mispronounceiationism: Jonathon Ross
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I think RMSGB is right on. ;D
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I just have to say I do not like our new President Obama, and I'm not saying McCain would be any better but, I just don't think that Obama will do a good job
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That is interesting to hear. I think he has a good set of moral values behind him and his poices.
(cant spell :-[)
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agreed i dont see him doing a bad job, but everyone has the right to their own opinion. I think he is really gonna turn our country around, i agree with his statment "its time for change" and after 8 years with bush, well anything is better than him ::)
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I'm glad Obama re-took the oath though.
I'm not sure I could live with a million crazy people running around saying that he wasn't actually the president. :D
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But then who would be overlord?
Well, me, of course. :o
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Well, me, of course. :o
Theres a rosey future for us all........... :o
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I'm glad Obama re-took the oath though.
I'm not sure I could live with a million crazy people running around saying that he wasn't actually the president. :D
obama didn't mess up the oath, the guy reading it said it wrong and obama is like "what?" thats why he stopped.
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I think Obama is the future. He's gonna be great :)
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yea i think he'll make a good president ;D
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better than your last president anyway.......
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oh yes, i hated bush, he was the worst president in history :P
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oh yes, i hated bush, he was the worst president in history :P
Well Britains comedians will miss him, they loved mocking bush, mind you they did have alot to work from! :D
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really? aww i never saw that :D
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I really don't wouldn't like to get into politics :laugh:
but Obama whats the U.S. to be in a depression, so he can be like FDR, and it seems like Obama wants to turn the U.S. from capitalism to socialism, and I've just yet to see it work.
and Bush was not the worst president in history that would be Jimmy Carter
Its just because of him being a republican our mainstream media just tore him to shreds even when he tried to please the democrats for the past 2 years, and that is why our country is in the economic shape it is today
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Thus why I'm happy that we don't have crazy people running around every where saying that Bush is still the president.
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They'd have to be crazy if they were saying that now, wouldn't they?
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umm, yup they would, or suffer from short term memory loss ::)
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Well, people arn't judging Bush because he is a republican, that isn't the case by any standards. What people are mad at him for is basicly ruining the economy and getting us into a 4 year war already that has killed thousands of our men. Now Obama has to finish the war and somehow make everyone happy by pulling our troops out at just the right time. His cabinet also was spending a whole bunch of money on themselfs for partys. He wan't the brightest man in the world too. Of all of the presidents we have ever had, he is the one that is made fun of the most, by democrats and republicans alike. The media actually called him making up words"Bushism". He can't say'Nuclear'. Instead he says"Nuculer". Also during the last press confrence, he said that the press may have"missunderestemated" him several times ;D.
Also with Obama's recent bill that was passed tonight, EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN IN THE SENATE voted against the bill, yet the bill was passed anyway. The chief republican also said to all of the republicans not to vote yes on the bill. Many people are enraged at that as well. Look where Obama is trying his best to come up with a bill to please everyone and all of the republicans won't even open up to the idea. Isn't it their brilliance that got us into this economic crisis anyway? I think that they should at least give the bill a shot rather than saying no at the first glimpse. Then they complained that it was a 600 page bill and that each page cost's 1 million each page because of preservation rights.
So now everyone knows where I stand ::) ;D.
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Isn't it their brilliance that got us into this economic crisis anyway? I think that they should at least give the bill a shot rather than saying no at the first glimpse. Then they complained that it was a 600 page bill and that each page cost's 1 million each page because of preservation rights.
I was watching CNN last night and I was actually amazed by thier, once again, ignorance when I heard about it. Do they even want to get out of this depression? Their policy has clearly failed the last 8 years, now there is someone trying to actually make a change but they do not wish to give him even a chance and actually hope he will fail before he even really started.
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all in short, bush well sucked, look where the country is now ::)
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It was the house of representatives, not the senate
I fail to see how Bush ruined this economy
2000-2001 we went into a recession, and how come that hasn't still been going on?
because he cut taxes, which always works to get the economy going
we are where we are today, because Bush tried to please the democrats in the house and senate who came in 2006, and passing liberal views after liberal views, we are in this new recession.
And Obama's liberal stimulus bill, it will never work, and it never will, we have learned from history that things don't work for a reason. this bill is to basically give the government more power over the people, you know what that is called? Communism, that doesn't work, and you think Bush is a bad speaker?, without a teleprompter Obama cannot even say a complete sentence without saying Ummm several times.
Do they even want to get out of this depression?
If you are talking about the Democrats, then no
and we are not in a depression, despite what CNN and MSNBC say,
we are in a recession, which means we had 2 quarters of negative growth.
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Sorry, got the powers messed up.
Well he doesn't have to please anyone. As long as a system works, then it pleases everyone. He ruined the economy because we have a huge national debt to China and we are losing money and jobs. If he didn't ruin the economy, then the stock market wouldn't have plumeted and we wouldn't be losing the auto industries and many other buisinesses.
President Bush was also rated the 2nd worst president, according to poles.
Right before the American civil war, the south branched together and created the Confederacy of America, named after the articles of confederation which they adopted. The articles of confederation stated strong state govornments, and less power to the central govornment. This tactic contributed to why they lost the civil war; their govornment did not have enough power.
So with that being said, a strong central govornment is not a bad thing, and Obama is not considering communism because he also knows that it doesn't work.
Everyone has those during speaches, including Bush. They are required to have it bcause they need to have their speeches at a good view. And Obama doesn't say "um" every sentence. I have seen him durning press confrences, and he does not say um close to every sentence. Everyone says um in some sentences, but not all of them. I think its better if you say um in a sentence than making up words which don't even exist in every press confrence.
To say that the democrats don't want to get out of this recession is just an ignorant statement. Thats like saying that the republicans want us to stay in the recession; it just doesn't make sence. If the democrats didn't then why is Obama making all of these bills? Why has he gone on for the past 2 years having "Change" in his banners while campaigning? It's either he is a really dedicated mastermind trying to crumble the country or he is a devoted person trying to do what is best.
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and we are not in a depression, despite what CNN and MSNBC say,
we are in a recession, which means we had 2 quarters of negative growth.
I know it is a recession (and what it is and means) and not a depression what we have at the moment.. I have no idea why I wrote depression, I think my head might have been somewhere else at the time lol
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President Bush was also rated the 2nd worst president, according to poles.
Did the Hungarians have anything to say? Or the Romanians?
Or did you mean "according to the polls"? ;)
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I live in england and I am 10 so I don't know much about Bush. But I would just say it must be the worlds hardest job, because you can never please everyone. So give the man a bit respect ;D
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I live in england and I am 10 so I don't know much about Bush. But I would just say it must be the worlds hardest job, because you can never please everyone. So give the man a bit respect ;D
lol, you must be one of a few Europeans who thinks like that... I know most of them really dislike Bush and his policy (I am/used to be one of them lol).
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Or did you mean "according to the polls"? ;)
You know I had a feeling that I spelled that wrong ;D.
I live in england and I am 10 so I don't know much about Bush. But I would just say it must be the worlds hardest job, because you can never please everyone. So give the man a bit respect ;D
The point of becoming a president is a hard job, yes, but there comes a point where when everything gets out of line, then there is an excuse to get mad. If the british parlament was making the economy suffer, then people would be mad, wouldn't they?
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I do, feel bad for Bush. Everyone calls him an idiot (I mean, we all know he is) but they can be so cruel to him. Especially when he was bood at the Obama inauguration.
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Yes, booing in my opinion is really just embarrasing, but that is a demonstration of how angry people are :(.
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Personally I think he would get a lot more compassion if he would actually admit that he was not always right with his policy the last 8 years but, instead, he is still fully backing everything up he did.. I guess you can't change stupid.
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Well actually at his last press confrence, he was asked to state things he thought went wrong in his presidency, and he did admit to the failed policies and Iraq and everything. Thats when he invented the word" missunderestemated" ;D.
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missunderestemated
I'm not sure whats worse that or the whole Pretzel shenanigan.
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If the british parlament was making the economy suffer, then people would be mad, wouldn't they?
They are ;D
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Exactly ;D.
I'm not sure whats worse that or the whole Pretzel shenanigan.
Pretzel schenanigan?
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Exactly ;D.
Haha. Yes but are there any complete babbling idiots in the British Parliament? And did any of them choke on a pretzel? Yes George Bush choked on a pretzel.
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Everything in life has its complications but perhaps we just need to trust governments and work with them as a nation and not argue because we are only thinking about the short term affects. I think the press are to blame for most things. For example;
The press publish that northern rock is in danger, Everyone rushes out to withdraw money, Northern rock collapses, it is believed that if everyone would have just continued as normal with banking there it MIGHT not have collapsed.
So work as a nation to trust and support the government, at the end of the day the people voted them in.
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Sorry to sound like I know nothing but could you explain the northern rock siuation to me please ;D?
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Well some economists believe that if instead of rushing out to with draw funds from the northern rock when the danger was first published last year, if people would have just let the government plans happen and trust them, there would have never been an issue.
Others believe it was bad from the start. ;D
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Well let me ask again :P: What is the northern rock ;D?
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A bank in england.
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Oh so the bank went bankrupt? I think thats what is going to happen to one of our banks soon. Washington mutual.
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Everyone calls him an idiot (I mean, we all know he is) but they can be so cruel to him. Especially when he was booed at the Obama inauguration.
Well, Bush is not an idiot, as many would perceive him to be, he was not well liked because a majority of the people that voted for his approval were people who disliked him, as in any questionnaire(the people who are angry are most likely to respond.) And he was booed at the Obamapaloosa because almost everyone their thinks Obama is the new messiah and will save our economy and help world hunger, and we will all hold hands and sing, but, they are just clinging to this very exaggerated tale that our main stream media has come up with. Promises of Hope and Change, very vague words that could mean almost anything to anyone, and that is why he won, Obama made over 500 promises during his campaign. Bush did the best he could during his 8 years, and I thank him that there hasn't been another terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11 and for getting us out of the recession that followed that disaster,
basically all that I have said would never been said anywhere else, because that is not what MSNBC, CNN, CBS, what you to hear, they want you to praise Obama, and keep drinking the Kool-aid
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Well, Bush is not an idiot, as many would perceive him to be, he was not well liked because a majority of the people that voted for his approval were people who disliked him, as in any questionnaire(the people who are angry are most likely to respond.) And he was booed at the Obamapaloosa because almost everyone their thinks Obama is the new messiah and will save our economy and help world hunger, and we will all hold hands and sing, but, they are just clinging to this very exaggerated tale that our main stream media has come up with. Promises of Hope and Change, very vague words that could mean almost anything to anyone, and that is why he won, Obama made over 500 promises during his campaign. Bush did the best he could during his 8 years, and I thank him that there hasn't been another terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11 and for getting us out of the recession that followed that disaster,
basically all that I have said would never been said anywhere else, because that is not what MSNBC, CNN, CBS, what you to hear, they want you to praise Obama, and keep drinking the Kool-aid
You are so right.
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Once again, the argument comes up for him being an idiot because he screwed up the economy. And I say again that if he were to do the right thing instead of trying to please everyone, then everyone would be pleased.
Obama doesn't PROMIS that he will turn the economy back into shape. What he does promis is that he will try his best. You can't promis anything unless you are 100% sure of something, and he is 100% sure that he will try his best.
There is no doubt going to be another terrorist attack on America, both Obama and Bush agree on that. So if they attack during Obama's presidence, then you can thank him for defending us.
The reason for the media taking sides is because stations like FOX are run by republicans. Thats why they don't usually support democratic moves. There is one reporter on one of the democratic stations that hates Bush's guts, and he states some very obvious arguments twoards Bush that are actually completely correct ;D. And what are they supposed to say? That Obama will ruin the economy? You can't expect them to say something bad about Obama because he hasn't done anything bad yet :P.
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he states some very obvious arguments twoards Bush that are actually completely correct Grin
well i can see what your biased are.
There is no doubt going to be another terrorist attack on America, both Obama and Bush agree on that. So if they attack during Obama's presidence, then you can thank him for defending us.
actually I cannot thank him, because the Obama would of been un-defending us, by allowing the U.S. to be attacked.
now if they had stopped it then, yes i would thank him
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actually I cannot thank him, because the Obama would of been un-defending us, by allowing the U.S. to be attacked.
now if they had stopped it then, yes i would thank him
I doubt he would allow anyone to attack the US but fact is that some he doesn't control the world, he cannot stop the fact that some people might open an attack on the US. He can, however, stop the attack while it is taking place and that is most like what poster that you quoted meant.
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Yes, as president of the U.S., your job is to pretect the country and uphold the constitution. Letting another nation attack us would be unconstitutional, and he could be impeached for not defending us. People act as though he is a bad person just because he is a democrat. Well look how many other presidents were democrats and the nation hasen't exactly fallen apart because we came into office at times.
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As a kid my opinion really doesnt matter but i think obama has reinstated that the american dream can be made by all again and that it is not being taking away from the official citizens by foreigners that dont have green cards. He does have a point with global warming and our energy crisis
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Yes, as president of the U.S., your job is to pretect the country and uphold the constitution. Letting another nation attack us would be unconstitutional, and he could be impeached for not defending us. People act as though he is a bad person just because he is a democrat. Well look how many other presidents were democrats and the nation hasen't exactly fallen apart because we came into office at times.
Anything like 9/11 could happen, he couldn't PREVENT that, but he can choose to fight back...
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As a kid my opinion really doesnt matter but i think obama has reinstated that the american dream can be made by all again and that it is not being taking away from the official citizens by foreigners that dont have green cards.
Of course, every time I go to the USA, I am a foreigner without a green card.
My wife, on the other hand, is a US Citizen....
But I do provide well-paid, secure jobs for more than a hundred US citizens through my company, and a number of others who have jobs indirectly.
So perhaps not all foreigners without green cards are so bad?
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As a kid my opinion really doesnt matter but i think obama has reinstated that the american dream can be made by all again and that it is not being taking away from the official citizens by foreigners that dont have green cards. He does have a point with global warming and our energy crisis
I am just a kid too but
no, the American dream is a chance to be successful, to be able to stand out from everyone, and show what you have accomplished to the world, the American dream was built on capitalism, not socialism, Obama has given false hope to everyone, but its not him that I'm worried about as much, its our people that are in control of congress, now there are the crazy liberals that are running this country, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Ried. they had to get a person like Obama into power for people to believe in "Hope" and "Change" but Obama had never specified what he meant by those two words, he left that up to the voters to decide, and many of them meant those words to be what ever they wanted, because they have been almost brainwashed that Bush was evil and the worst president ever, and anyone would be better that him
but mark my words, the next 2 years could lead anywhere and if Obama chooses to go down the wrong path(such as following, what has been done by FDR and Jimmy Carter) I don't know, but there will be change, but probably for the worst.
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I am not so sure on the American dream as you have stated it.
Being successful is good, yes, but standing out in the world kind of in a gloating fashon is dangerous, that is why the terrists hate us. They don't like our way of living and frankly, just think that their way of life is better than eny one elses.
There is a diffrence between socialism and capitalism, and thanks to a new article that was resently published, it PROVES that Obama is not a socialist and is for capitalism, and in his plans it states nothing of socialism and complete capitalism.
In many of his speeches, Obama has stated that change refers to, in his opinion, the making of new jobs, new effecient fuels, and mostly turning the economy around into a prosperious one. I can't remember a speech in which he didn't state what his definition of change was ???.
Probably is not a complete answer, it is an answer of unsureness and regret, and if you have unsureness and regret, then that is what your answer will be. He will, or he won't is a proper answer. No one can say though that he will turn the country around, and no one can say that he won't. However, even in such a sence, being unsure of an opinion is not usually a good thing. It is the buissiness of the American people to concentrate on their lives, on what is affecting them, and to let the govt. handle the breaking points, creaks and cracks in the country. The power is in the branches' hands, and no amount of regret, unhappyness or sympathy can change the control of which the branches deside to exectue. Only with voting can the people do so much. That is why you only vote when you can vote, and watch and not complain.
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Of course, every time I go to the USA, I am a foreigner without a green card.
My wife, on the other hand, is a US Citizen....
But I do provide well-paid, secure jobs for more than a hundred US citizens through my company, and a number of others who have jobs indirectly.
So perhaps not all foreigners without green cards are so bad?
well i know not all foreigners are bad but most think that they could literally come here and like have kids and get on our well fare system just right off the back and countries wonder why we cant pay them but really most foreigners are very loving and well we respect them because they work well on the most part of that but really i love everyone their is no reason to hate but when the cause of all this world crisis is by both illegal and legal immigrants just coming over to this country and taking jobs from legal citizens and then dissing us about how we are lazy but what can we do our jobs are being taken and now we cant get jobs with this recession
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Right now, the Mexicans are not earning a good name for themselfs, seeing as most kidnappings and drug activity comming from Texas and NM are mostly Mexicans. Today a Mexican kidnapped another American and was going to cut his arm off. The police arrived just in time to stop him, but still, just attempting to do that earns your people a bad name.
Well, I myself call most kids lazy. Not so much adults, but adults can be lazy at times. I frown upon most kids because of their lazyness. If there is something next to you, don't call someone in the other room to get it for you ;D! Also in the sence of taking responsibility. Give something to some children to put away, and they will ask someone else to put it away for them. BAH >:(!
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I'm sorry but I reckon this is all getting a bit more political than subjects on this forum really should be. This is not really the place for such things.
I'm going to have to lock this one, I hope you all understand.
Regards,
Fred