Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => General discussions => Topic started by: RMSGreatBritain on September 13, 2008, 08:07:13
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Hi everyone, I'm new here. But I was just thinking about what I would like to see in the next installment of Ship Sim. Here Is what I came up with:
More Passenger ships: Alot of people are thinking the same way I think. Passenger ships is the only key part of ship sim that needs to be improved. There needs to be the great liners and cruise liners in history such as The SS Normandie (which by the way I think is the most beautiful ship ever), RMS Queen Mary, RMS Queen Mary 2, Aquitania, Freedom of the seas, P&O Ventura, SS France and Color Magic. Plus another P&O ferry that does the Dover-Calais route like the pride of kent or pride of Calais.
Now thats alot of extra ships, so I would like to see some of the ones that I dont seem to use very much gone to save space like the Arie Visser, Pilot boat, Water Taxi, Tugboat and Freedom 90.
Environments: I'd like to see the one more environment but with some differences. First of all, I think we can drop padstow, Hamburg north sea, San francisco Pacific ocean and Marsielle Mediterraenean Sea. I would like these to be replaced by Felixstowe and Harwich (the uk's biggest and busiest containor ports and harwich is a key port for Scandinavian cruises), Miami (major port for cruise ships doing the carribean), Singapore (one of the worlds largest ports), Some of the carribean islands (For proper cruise routes of the carribean), Sydney (Massive cruise destination)
But now Its your turn to post your ideas, you never know VStep might listen.
PS: I know dropping padstow could be contriversal so what about your ideas of what we could rid of to make way for.
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Welcome to the forum!
I'd like to see the Port of Hull.
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Hull is a good idea, then you could do the Hull-Rotterdam line with pride of Rotterdam.
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Yes, that would be the great thing about having Hull in the game. Agile Solution would be great in Hull too, passing through the locks.
About "Dropping" the enviroments, it's likely some will be carried over and some will be scrapped. Rotterdam and Hamburg are quite popular enviroments, so i believe they will be carried over.
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I think there should be three UK ports: Hull, The Solent, and Felixstowe/Harwich
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I'd like to see more historical ships, like say a Clyde Puffer. And although i'm not a passenger liner lover, for the people that do love them, i think i'd like to see more, i suppose i have to look at it in that it gives me more to tow ;D :D
I'd also love to see the port of Fleetwood (England) and the port of Dublin (Republic Of Ireland)
I would also like to see more trawlers, and maybe some crab boats in the future, i think that is also an area v-step can expand on, but for now, I think v-step are making great progress! :)
Jack.
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I've never heard of Fleetwood port (I've heard of fleetwood mac though). Is that a big port or what?.
PS: What do you think about Hull and Felixstowe/Harwich.
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I've never heard of Fleetwood port (I've heard of fleetwood mac though). Is that a big port or what?.
PS: What do you think about Hull and Felixstowe/Harwich.
Fleetwood is a port on the west coast of England, next door to Blackpool. Stena line run a Fleetwood-Dublin freight ferry service.
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Oh I see. Sounds interesting. Thanks IRI5H J4CK!
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Fleetwood has quite a history, it was once England's main fishing port, although now, its still busy, its VERY quiet now compared to years ago.
Jack.
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i would like to see way more bridge control, like giving orders to the crew (just choosing an order from the menu) improved environments like when you head too open sea a few dolphins swimming beside the bow,moving cars,birds, people walking onboard and working...etc
working cranes (wich are standing onboard like the agile solution) so you can on and ofload the goods by yourself. using the lifeboat when the ship starts sinking. an alarm when the ship starts sinking. an even more realistic water structure. when it is dark that you can push a button and the ships lights up. (even the town has to have lights) fire on ships and working waterhoses on the rpa 12. some stuff like that would make shipsim much more fun too play with than just steering the ship.
ships i would like too see:
an icebreaker (kapitan khlebnikov), the pushboat that goax is making right now, the queen mary 2, a medium-sized cruiseship like the easycruiseOne, a dredger and some whole other ships that will all surprise us. some totally other ships. ;D
maritiem
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I like your ideas maritiem, not sure about easycruise one though, I wouldn't say thats medium sized I would say thats small. Nowadays a medium sized cruise ship is like the Ocean Village or Ocean Village 2.
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yes they are very small. well i would like too see a yacht cruiseline like the ship: seadream or easycruiseLife.
what i'am also missing is a high detailed inland cargo vessel. (also fun is the easycruiseTwo)
maritiem
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I also forgot to mention that I think that being able to lower lifeboats would be a great feature, then being able to use them. And, I also think ships sink way to quickly, I think that the ships should sink at a realistic rate of speed, then SOS's would be more realistic, thats my opinion anyway.
Jack.
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I agree IRI5HJ4CK
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RMSGreatBritain,
Why should any environments be dropped? You have no idea of the tremendous amount of work that is involved in making those environments. You should read what has been said on this forum about ships and environments before starting yet another topic on the same thing.
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MV Smith, I understand your comments, and you do have a point, but it depends on the size of the game. If the game can handle 3 or 4 new environments without having to drop any, then that would be awesome, ofcourse I dont want any environments to be dropped, but you have to make sacrifices sometimes. I may be wrong, VStep might not have to make any sacrifices for the next game, and if thats the case I hope I'm wrong. But I was merely making a compromise for the good of the game, and if thats offended you, then I'm Sorry.
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Hi RMSGB,
It is not that easy to offend me. Driving me into a violent rage is much easier.
Environments occupy their own folders within the game, so a user can, in principle, decide which environments he has space for. Rotterdam takes about 80Mb, most other ports take about half that, and the oceans much less.
There are already a few long lists of requested environments. It would probably take VSTEP a decade to satisfy them all. They will probably give priority to the larger world ports, or those like Padstow that are different in what they offer. There is little chance of seeing ones favorite harbor, or ship, if it is much like others.
Regards,
Marty
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I would like to see some tide features in ss09/10, that would make it very interesting especially padstow. You could have a mission where you have to finish before the tide goes out.
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Vessels:
Personaly, I would like to see one of the big SR.N4 Hovercrafts, The Princess Anne / The Princess Margaret. Also, a few more passenger ferries, such as Norfolk Lines Maersk Delft/Dover Dunkerque, and maybe a searunner class freight ferry. Also, maybe some refrigerated Cargo vessels?
Environments:
I would love to see Dover Calais/Dunkerque represented - DUnkerque also has good facilities for freight ships. Also, Hull would be nice to complete the Hull-Rotterdam voyage, as stated by others. Harwich and Felixstowe could be good as well, since we coul have vessels going from Harwich to the Hook. Also, maybe we could get an expanded Solent, with the Portsmouth Naval Base and Continental Ferry terminal included.
A tide feature is a good idea as well - especially when crossing in the Freedom 90 with a low tide, there is a great run along the pier in sand at low water.
The Ferry Man
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i would like to see voice over ip there is no contact with others on servers and for ships how about carriers and if not mentioned like the panama canal or that type would be cool as well
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Maybe On-Board Cranes. You could do that in multiplayer and then transfer to another ship! Maye Cars that go off your ferry when you dock, and roll on.
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Vessels:
Personaly, I would like to see one of the big SR.N4 Hovercrafts, The Princess Anne / The Princess Margaret. Also, a few more passenger ferries, such as Norfolk Lines Maersk Delft/Dover Dunkerque, and maybe a searunner class freight ferry. Also, maybe some refrigerated Cargo vessels?
Environments:
I would love to see Dover Calais/Dunkerque represented - DUnkerque also has good facilities for freight ships. Also, Hull would be nice to complete the Hull-Rotterdam voyage, as stated by others. Harwich and Felixstowe could be good as well, since we coul have vessels going from Harwich to the Hook. Also, maybe we could get an expanded Solent, with the Portsmouth Naval Base and Continental Ferry terminal included.
A tide feature is a good idea as well - especially when crossing in the Freedom 90 with a low tide, there is a great run along the pier in sand at low water.
The Ferry Man
Great ideas Ferry Man!
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Better sinking system. I know that sinking ships may not be interesting, but I like it. ;D ;D ;D
Ships always sink the same way.
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Not always:
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I would like to see more opportunitys to use the Crane operations, both on shore and on bord the ships. Plus I would like to see more ships with the capacity to perform in this manner. Thank you.
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I would like to see slightly bigger waves and have the option for more then 1 person to join the same vessel and be able to share the controls, like in Flight Simulator X.
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I agree with the waves - i'd like to see them upto 15m
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I agree with the waves - i'd like to see them upto 15m
Then you will haw big problem's with the POR Nathan, she nearly can handle 4M waves
PS sorry for my bad englsh
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I think 15m is a lil too much, 6 or 7m is more like it.
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I think 15m is a lil too much, 6 or 7m is more like it.
Agree with you there, but watt is so important with big waves? it's more important things, working lighthouse boies light, lights from the citys and pleases sailing bay, more super ships more harbors etc.
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Then you will haw big problem's with the POR Nathan, she nearly can handle 4M waves
PS sorry for my bad englsh
True, but it would be interesting ;D
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True, but it would be interesting ;D
That so ;D
BDW Natanc you haw got you server http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,10424.msg122425.html#msg122425
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That so ;D
BDW Natanc you haw got you server http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,10424.msg122425.html#msg122425
Thanks so much :)
Me and IRI5HJ4CK will definetly use it :)
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Thanks so much :)
Me and IRI5HJ4CK will definetly use it :)
That's good, maybe i will come in from time to time,and the rolls are the same as
v-step's so if there are something your se pm me and i will react right away
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I would like to see a couple of Canadian ports on Ship Simulator 2009.
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I would like to see a couple of Canadian ports on Ship Simulator 2009.
Agree with you there watt about Vancouver harbor i lived in Canada for 17 years in a place Cal's squeamish not far for Vancouver and i love the pleases special the squeamish aria, but Vancouver is a fantastic city and has a fantastic harbor
TJK/Capt.Bluebeard
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There needs to be more Ships from North America like Canadian and American Ships all we have in the game is New York and San Francisco >:(
we need to have American/Canadian Ships
these ships in my opinion are the best
and I'm sure many others can agree
also ships/environments from the Great Lakes
like Montreal, Thunder Bay, Detroit and Duluth
these are some of the busiest ports in the world
im not saying that the ships already in the game are bad
its just the game needs more variety
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There needs to be more Ships from North America like Canadian and American Ships all we have in the game is New York and San Francisco >:(
The only british enviroments are The Solent and Padstow. So, i think we need somewhere else, maybe Hull, Dover or Dublin.
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There needs to be more Ships from North America like Canadian and American Ships all we have in the game is New York and San Francisco >:(
we need to have American/Canadian Ships
these ships in my opinion are the best
and I'm sure many others can agree
also ships/environments from the Great Lakes
like Montreal, Thunder Bay, Detroit and Duluth
these are some of the busiest ports in the world
im not saying that the ships already in the game are bad
its just the game needs more variety
You are so right!
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Not always:
Was there wind when you sunk there?
PS: Sorry I took so long to anwser.
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More boats/ship: Cargo, passenger, private.
Map: Better terminals and more ship/water signs.
Boats: More buttons and screens too look at.
Online: Radio talk with other players.
Grafic: water and waves
:P
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I was thinking about a new ship in a later Ship Simulator, the Oceanos, a passenger cruise ship that sunk just south of South Africa,cause of her sinking is still unknown. We do need more cruis ships than just the Ocean Star.
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Dont like all the Cruise ships, i want a small passenger ship, more fun in waves.
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I was thinking about a new ship in a later Ship Simulator, the Oceanos, a passenger cruise ship that sunk just south of South Africa,cause of her sinking is still unknown. We do need more cruis ships than just the Ocean Star.
Ya, and i heard that Oceanos's captain and crew abandon the ship leaving the passengers. They should be ashamed.
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they were ashamed once they and all the survivors were on dry land. i also heard two men had got some people into some lifeboats and they were complimented by the survivors.
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Hi.
It is a same topic about SS09 Wishes/request.
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,6837.0.html (http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,6837.0.html)
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People ask why it's important with big waves, well I want to be able to see how the ship boats react in 10-15 meters waves + there could been made some fun missions whit rescue operations and stuffs like that.
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Hi Minime,
That is one good reason why wave high is restricted. The ships do not react realistically to higher waves because of limitations in the dynamics. Take Arie Visser out in the North Sea in max waves and wind, and then tell me how much fun you need.
Marty
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I don't mean all the time 15 meters high waves, but maby 8 meters, but then sometimes a large wave would come, where you had to react fast, and try to save the vessel with your skills
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Things in SS'09 needed (in my opinion)
1) Functional radar and ARPA
2) Realistic-looking, functional ECDIS (plotting, routing, etc.), containig complete navigational information (buoys, fairways, leading lights, lighthouses and beacons, racons, etc.)
3) Autopilot (course/track control)
4) Navigation lights, vessel and deck lighting, possibility to switch it on/off
5) Buoyage, leading lights, (with additional lights)
6) Realistic vessel and water dynamics
7) Environments with several ports on the same chart, so that is possible to sail between a number of ports without switchover between two or more environments
8) Wawe height not restricted at the coastal sailing areas
9) More large vessels and environments
10) Improved AI
11) Tides and currents
12) Advanced mooring system
13) Detailed bridge interior, possibility to switch on/off lighting on the bridge
14) Possibility to change weather during the simulation
15) All berths equipped with mooring boulders
16) Improved mission redactor
I know, that is very hard to do it all, but with that all functions game will be a real navigation simulator! :)
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:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Now that is a LONG list! If we could see all that in the game, :o :o :o the game would be REALLY cool! :o
I think of some stuff when I play, but when I get here I don't remember anything... :( :P
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To add on another thing, We should have More realistic waves, and the waves' height restriction to be higher. We all know VSTEP is perfectly capable of creating realistic waves. But do they want us to have them?
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You are absolutely right firestar,
In the weekly Developers Newsletter they keep saying “Let the little *****s scream their ***** heads off. We are going to keep those 20 meter waves just for our own private versions.â€
Actually, I don’t think you are missing that much. I find that if I crank the height much over 16 meters Javelin has a tendency to broach to and capsize.
Marty
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You are absolutely right firestar,
In the weekly Developers Newsletter they keep saying “Let the little *****s scream their ***** heads off. We are going to keep those 20 meter waves just for our own private versions.â€
Actually, I don’t think you are missing that much. I find that if I crank the height much over 16 meters Javelin has a tendency to broach to and capsize.
Marty
You have Javlen? And did VSTEP really say that? If so it makes me feel like they hate us and are after just money (That part might be true)
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I wish I knew who was putting whom on. Nobody can be that s…er…naïve.
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firestar12,
Where on earth is your sense of humour? Did you lose it amongst all the questions?
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firestar12,
Where on earth is your sense of humour? Did you lose it amongst all the questions?
OHHHHHHHH. It was a joke. Great Job Marty. You are like some computer joke guy. U are funny. (I think we should get back on topic)
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About the bigger wave thing on the forums, could there be bigger waves in shipsim09 or 10? It's because of this... Click me! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH_ORoNq550) and me! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skuvZkpuDUg)
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About the bigger wave thing on the forums, could there be bigger waves in shipsim09 or 10? It's because of this... Click me! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH_ORoNq550) and me! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skuvZkpuDUg)
No, well, there will be Larger Waves on 09/10 I believe, but that is NOT FOOTAGE OF IT. That was done with an illegal file edit to make them larger. So forget all about abcabcabc5000 and his videos. lol.
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i think poole and christchurch harbor would be good with brownsea island
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but that is NOT FOOTAGE OF IT.
I know it's not. I just wanted to show people some videos of what happens in waves that are way too high.
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I know it's not. I just wanted to show people some videos of what happens in waves that are way too high.
Wait. Are you abcabc5000?
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NO! Just found these videos and linked to them.
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i just wanted to know if the wave system for 2008 pro is going to be used for 09
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i just wanted to know if the wave system for 2008 pro is going to be used for 09
I heavily doubt it ;) The wave system in 08 Pro puts much more pressure on the system. I even doubt SS2009 will have waves as good as 08 Pro ;)
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I heavily doubt it ;) The wave system in 08 Pro puts much more pressure on the system. I even doubt SS2009 will have waves as good as 08 Pro ;)
ok thx nathan
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No Problem :)
The operating requirements for waves like that are very hard, but we still have this "new weather system" in SS2009 to look forward to.
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No Problem :)
The operating requirements for waves like that are very hard, but we still have this "new weather system" in SS2009 to look forward to.
ohhhh and one more thing i wanted to know if a 2.8 ghz and a gforce 7600 graphics card would run shipsim correctly and 2 gb ram
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ohhhh and one more thing i wanted to know if a 2.8 ghz and a gforce 7600 graphics card would run shipsim correctly and 2 gb ram
Well that's certainly better than my PC, and i can run it fine ;)
So, it looks like it.
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Well that's certainly better than my PC, and i can run it fine ;)
So, it looks like it.
ok good cause im gonna send in my pc and get it upgraded to that ohhh and wanna play mp
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Well I recived a newsletter telling me that Ship sim are going to release ship sim 2009! Yay!
They say there is going to be Tornadoes and hurricanes and stuff, unless I misred my newsletter.
But I would like to see these things all the same :) :
NOT the pride of Hull. If you look at the ship designs the Pride of Hull and the Pride of Rotterdam are virtually the same. Unless, like 2006-2008, VSTEP could add the pride of hull in instead of the pride of rotterdam. That would make a good difference. Queen Mary 2 or Queen Victoria. Maybe even the Queen Elizabeth 2 would make my day.
Olympic and the Britannic would make life a bit better.
As for environments, ISTANBUL. CERTAINLY ISTANBUL! Its the same size as Rotterdam and streches over two continents! I think ship sim 2008 have too much "Rotterdam" ships in their game.
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Things in SS'09 needed (in my opinion)
1) Functional radar and ARPA
2) Realistic-looking, functional ECDIS (plotting, routing, etc.), containig complete navigational information (buoys, fairways, leading lights, lighthouses and beacons, racons, etc.)
3) Autopilot (course/track control)
4) Navigation lights, vessel and deck lighting, possibility to switch it on/off
5) Buoyage, leading lights, (with additional lights)
6) Realistic vessel and water dynamics
7) Environments with several ports on the same chart, so that is possible to sail between a number of ports without switchover between two or more environments
8) Wawe height not restricted at the coastal sailing areas
9) More large vessels and environments
10) Improved AI
11) Tides and currents
12) Advanced mooring system
13) Detailed bridge interior, possibility to switch on/off lighting on the bridge
14) Possibility to change weather during the simulation
15) All berths equipped with mooring boulders
16) Improved mission redactor
I know, that is very hard to do it all, but with that all functions game will be a real navigation simulator! :)
Well, maybe these ideas would do better in Ship sim 2009 PROFESIONAL instead :D
AW Great... double posted again. Im so bad. I planned to merge this topic into the last one but then I couldnt find a delete button. If a moderator comes along... I am very sorry and if they wouldnt mind merging my two posts that would be great
Sorry!
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Well I recived a newsletter telling me that Ship sim are going to release ship sim 2009! Yay!
They say there is going to be Tornadoes and hurricanes and stuff, unless I misred my newsletter.
But I would like to see these things all the same :) :
NOT the pride of Hull. If you look at the ship designs the Pride of Hull and the Pride of Rotterdam are virtually the same. Unless, like 2006-2008, VSTEP could add the pride of hull in instead of the pride of rotterdam. That would make a good difference. Queen Mary 2 or Queen Victoria. Maybe even the Queen Elizabeth 2 would make my day.
Olympic and the Britannic would make life a bit better.
As for environments, ISTANBUL. CERTAINLY ISTANBUL! Its the same size as Rotterdam and streches over two continents! I think ship sim 2008 have too much "Rotterdam" ships in their game.
Well, Rotterdam ships makes since since VSTEP is LOCATED IN Rotterdam So they are not going to have a bunch of french ships.
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You have an exellent point there. But I would quite dissagree when you say they are "not going to make a bunch of French ships. One would get quite insulted if they are viewing from France now. (Though this is the English board) If VSTEP want to sell more ship simulators around the world they would need to even out every major country like America, England, Istanbul, France, Germany and so on.
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You have an exellent point there. But I would quite dissagree when you say they are "not going to make a bunch of French ships. One would get quite insulted if they are viewing from France now. (Though this is the English board) If VSTEP want to sell more ship simulators around the world they would need to even out every major country like America, England, Istanbul, France, Germany and so on.
Well, I wasn't Saying anything about ANY country in particular, I was just trying to point out that they are more likely to have Rotterdam ships Such as Pride of Rotterdam Because they are more easy access. Like they wouldn't want to travel across the world because some member suggested that one ship has a tiny thing wrong with it. So remember, I wasn't saying anything about any specific country, Just would like to point that out. ;)
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Whats a google images then?
But I agreee, they cound use google images for all ships and the walkabout stuff
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Whats a google images then?
But I agreee, they cound use google images for all ships and the walkabout stuff
Google Images is an Image search Engine. They wouldn't want to use that for walkthrough mode. Trust me. Half the time you can even find what your looking for. (http://images.google.com/) (You could type "Cat" Or "Kitty" If thats what you were looking for but try not to type in phrases because they search by keyword and that makes it confusing.
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Wait. Are you abcabc5000?
A little late i know but i just found this. THIS (http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php?action=profile;u=18308) is abcabcabc5000.
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How about some ferries? Like BC Ferries? Tsawwassen terminal has five berths for their main ferry termainl. Or how about passenger ferries? This way people could try docking the ferries in various conditions.
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i would like some candian ports, such as North sydney, NS,, St. Johns NFLD, Halifax NS, PEI, NB, Vancouver B|C
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You have an exellent point there. But I would quite dissagree when you say they are "not going to make a bunch of French ships. One would get quite insulted if they are viewing from France now. (Though this is the English board) If VSTEP want to sell more ship simulators around the world they would need to even out every major country like America, England, Istanbul, France, Germany and so on.
well accepting the fact that i am part french that does offend me
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I'd like to try sailing a Great Lakes freighter in Canadian and American ports in that region. The conditions there are notoriously worse than what one would experience in salt water (save for the North Atlantic in the winter).
I agree with Kapn Jonah.
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Better sinking system. I know that sinking ships may not be interesting, but I like it. ;D ;D ;D
Ships always sink the same way.
Also when a ship capsizes, well it doesn't really i just comes back to the surface
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I would like to see differences in "loads." If I complete... say... a docking procedure involving a cargo vessel in SS09, it'd be cool to have the second leg of the voyage be a now empty vessel (riding high and having a little drag at the stern) with some current and wind situations to challenge a departure or a coastwise voyage.
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In SS 09 I'd like to see the new ships of Costa Crociere and of MSC and i'd like to see improved waves because in SS 08 they are dreadful (it isn't a joke).
From the moment that Vstep sells all dearly (from the game to the vessels in the shipyard), I demand at least that the new game will be acceptable and that the game will be a real "simulator", seeing that the last versions were not very realistic.
Regards
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I suggest you refrain from using the word “demandâ€. Neither you nor anyone on this forum can demand anything from VSTEP. They have their own vision for the simulator—for the most part, beyond the repetitive suggestions on the forum.
If you had bothered to explore the forum, you would have learned that SS 20009 will include a new sea model, and could have viewed a preview of it.
If you choose to join those who merely snipe from the sidelines rather than make any real contribution to the forum or actively take part in the improvement of the sim—as many members do, then you will eventually find yourself ignored by those who are in a position help you.
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There are of course numerous other threads in which people have stated what they would like to see in Ship Simulator 2008 & Ship Simulator 2009/2010.
Basically these threads include requests for just about every ship that has ever been made, many that have never been made, every port in the world, evey estuary, every lake and almost every pond and puddle.
Also just about about every possible configuration of weather condition with waves that would stretch to the moon, modified versions of the existing vessels (in almost every case, the vessel is criticised for being both too fast and too slow, as well as turning too fast and too slow by various posters, few of whom have any actual data, only "feelings").
A big hint - the Search button is easy to use. Just type a word and click that button.
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dear mvsmith, well said. As you said Vstep has its own vision of the simulation. I'm a forum member like you and like you i have the right to speak about quality and problems of the game. However maybe you misuranderstood my words. I didn't want to be arrogant and I didn't offend Vstep but those were some critical advises to improve the game in order to avoid that, at least in Italy, Vstep loses other customers. In the shop where I bought the game, Ship Simulator lies unsold. Perhaps United States (as your flag says) and Italy have different opinions about simulation.
Regards
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Well my requests for Ship Simulator 2009 would be:
- Moorage Bollards on multiplayer (places to moore)
- A couple more vessels, perhaps some Irish ferries but not the actual company logos and stuff
- Port of Dover,holyhead and some minor ports/environments
- More rescue missions ofr the likes of Me :P :D.(Rescue)
- Snow as a weather
I think that's it from me. I have already said what i want in many other topics lol. If your so interested just look for them.
Regards
Lilfirefighterbailey
SSN Admin/Founder
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Hi Andrea,
I don’t object to suggestions, or even criticism, if it is original and not a repetition of something said many times before on this forum.
Nor should it be about a problem that VSTEP has announced that they are addressing. They are remaking the simulator to include an entirely new ocean model. There has been information posted on that subject.
Requests for features should take into account what is actually feasible at the present stage of development of the simulator. Waves are one example. Operable locks, tides, variable draft, etc. are others that have been explained on this forum in the past.
To be blunt, the developers, alone, are the ones in a position to assess the work required to implement features and to assign priorities. They are also constrained by the requirement to keep the sim playable on computers that users can be reasonably expected to own.
I have seen very few suggestions made on this forum that the developers had not already considered, assessed, and assigned priority to. They are, after all, developers of professional training simulators for the marine and other professions.
Also, they are in Rotterdam, where there are boats—which the Dutch have been messing about in for some time.
How can you state that they are losing customers? Their sales figures certainly don’t look too shabby.
Sales in a particular country depend on the efforts of the publisher for that market, the amount of advertising and exposure, whether there is a localized version in the language, and other factors. Many prefer to purchase directly from VSTEP on-line.
Regards,
Marty
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Hello, personally I would just like to see the games present ships and harbours made more realistic, rather than add more ships and environments.
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you would have learned that SS 20009 will include a new sea model
How long will we have to wait until that game? ;D ;D ;D ;) ::)
Super fast powerboats! Yeah!
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First quarter, 2009 from what I understand.
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First quarter, 2009 from what I understand.
mvsmith wrote SS 20009.
That's ~18001 years from here.
I think of stuff for the game when i'm playing, but then i don't remember anymore!
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I'm hoping they don't release it eary due to pressure because then it might not be as good as it could be, I'm prepared to wait a little longer for a better game
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I'm hoping they don't release it eary due to pressure because then it might not be as good as it could be, I'm prepared to wait a little longer for a better game
How many time is that? 18000 years? ;D ;D ;)
Ok, now i'm being annoying. Sorry Marty.
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you would have learned that SS 20009 will include a new sea model,
How long will we have to wait until that game? ;D ;D ;D ;) ::)
Super fast powerboats! Yeah!
We might have Terry's
with waves that would stretch to the moon
By then!!!
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How many time is that? 18000 years? ;D ;D ;)
Ok, now i'm being annoying. Sorry Marty.
That’s OK. I didn’t want to commit VSTEP to a schedule they couldn’t keep.
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Yeah, that's a good idea. ::)
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I think a great candidate is the P&O ferry 'Pride of Bilbao' it sails between Portsmouth and Bilbao in Spain and is a viable alternative to the 'Pride of Rotterdam'.
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Isn't it more or less the same as the Pride of Rotterdam? Looks kind of the same. If they would offer more places to walk on the Pride of Rotterdam I'd be game with that too.
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They don't look the same. Don't have a pic. of the Rotterdam, but here is the Pride of Bilbao (seen in Portsmouth)
The Bilbao would be great if they put Portsmouth Continental Ferry Port onto the Solent map - where it should be is out of bounds and empty.
The Ferry Man
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Yeah I can see the difference now... from memory they both looked the same as far as I remembered.
Not sure if this was mentioned in previous posts, but the ability to work off lines while docking would be super. I know from experience that if you give me a spring line or any other line in the right place at the right time, I can work magic. This "damage" percentage has got to go... unless you slam head on into a dock or another vessel. Brushing against things is a tugboats JOB, so "damage" and sinking caused by working off the hip is absurd.
Also enable the taking in or letting out of slack on mooring lines and tows. It improves maneuverability.
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They don't look the same. Don't have a pic. of the Rotterdam, but here is the Pride of Bilbao (seen in Portsmouth)
The Bilbao would be great if they put Portsmouth Continental Ferry Port onto the Solent map - where it should be is out of bounds and empty.
The Ferry Man
I've been on the Pride of Bilbao a few times as a passenger. On most of the trips it was just a few days holiday, watching the sea go by, with the odd pairs of dolphins swimming in the bow waves and so on. Then a couple of hours in Spain and back home. On one occasion though, it was in some horrendous weather, and I really though the ship was going to flip over several times during the night.
There was no food available for quite a while,as the crockery went everywhere and most of the cooking staff were very sea-sick. I was OK and just wanted my breakfast, so I ended up cooking scrambled eggs and bacon for my son and myself (my wife was very green, in bed). A couple of the crew smelled it and asked if I would make some for them, but I think there were only four of us who felt like eating that day!
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are there any information about the release of ss2009???
I dont have ss08 yet and want to know if i should buy it or wait for 09?
cheers
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SS 2009 is called SS 2010 in the Captain’s Journal included with Collector’s Edition. This does not necessarily mean it won’t be released in ’09.
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ok...
in ss2010(or how it will be called) I would like a luxury yacht like there was in ss06
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I am just really glad they fixed things up since SS2006.... I was afraid this game was done for after playing that one. :-\
Another thing I thought was maybe a use of fenders for the docks so that damage is reduced when bringing the vessel in. And give tugs more realistic HP so that when they have to actually tow something the size of a containership it doesn't take 15 minutes to reach a waypoint that is .4 nautical miles away.
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I only have been in the Pride of Bilbao once, and had the flu for the whole journey :(
With tugs, how about the ability to push boats into berths. whenever I try to nudge boats in with a tug, I end up getting a lot of damage, or if I go to slowly, the tug just turns to one side.
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With tugs, how about the ability to push boats into berths. whenever I try to nudge boats in with a tug, I end up getting a lot of damage, or if I go to slowly, the tug just turns to one side.
Exactly. Allow work on the hip, nudging, and NORMAL towing of larger vessels.
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I also forgot to mention that I think that being able to lower lifeboats would be a great feature, then being able to use them. And, I also think ships sink way to quickly, I think that the ships should sink at a realistic rate of speed, then SOS's would be more realistic, thats my opinion anyway.
Jack.
Ya it would be cool to see passengers and tell them to board lifeboats and choose when to launch them. It would be cool if you had a radio and could communcate with the ship control and other ships. It would be cool to have the Coast Guard too, and could warn ships about their location.
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Overall though I think the best thing to do is sharpen the AI on the surrounding traffic. It sucks when you're blatantly doing a maneuver with a barge or vessel and boats that can see you from way the hell down the channel barrel on down without a clue. If I sound my horn or turn into a berth, they should stop and wait. Sometimes they do it now, but in the "Garbage Barge" mission I was turning into the slip and from behind me a jackassy motorboat ran into my stern and down the port side of the barge. This was just PAST the Bay Bridge, so he had all the room in the world to pass around my stern and onto my starboard side.
Rules of the Road would be a welcome feature.
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It's much better than it used to be. They do at least try to slow to a halt now (in the right circumstances).
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Some people in my town could stand to learn the "Rules of the road" (And some people on the St. Lawrence Seaway here too :)). Anyway, I am agreed on that one.
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I've been on the Pride of Bilbao a few times as a passenger. On most of the trips it was just a few days holiday, watching the sea go by, with the odd pairs of dolphins swimming in the bow waves and so on. Then a couple of hours in Spain and back home. On one occasion though, it was in some horrendous weather, and I really though the ship was going to flip over several times during the night.
Hi all,
I worked on the 'Pride of Bilbao' for 2 years, (from 1998 to 2000), and the majority of the trips were OK, (a bit lumpy now and then) and as Terry said quite terrifying sometimes, (the Bay of Biscay can do that sometimes). I think that this route, (Portsmouth to Santurzi), would be really good for the new sea model. A ferry has to keep to its schedule and can't really avoid bad weather. I would like to see the Portsmouth Ferry Port and the Port of Santurzi in SS??
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Hi Dave.
That was about the time that I did four to six trips each Spring - Autumn. Did I ever cook you breakfast amongst a load of smashed crockery on the way back from Bilbao?
That WOULD be a small world!
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I doubt it was seasickness that stopped the crew from cooking, anyone who's worked on her will know what I mean.
Here's some typical winter weather at the outer breakwater.
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Looks like great fun for the wheelhouse gang. :D
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I doubt it was seasickness that stopped the crew from cooking, anyone who's worked on her will know what I mean.
There were a lot of very seasick canteen staff. Also, I suspect some broken bones. It was VERY rough. But as a lifeboatman in my time, I have some sea legs (I keep them in a cupboard at home).
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How long is a crossing in those ferries?
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yes looks fun from the bridge not so good if your trying to secure the anchors.
She really takes a battering during the winter she used to sail from Portsmouth around 8pm and arrive in Santiritzi around 5am 33 hours later then sail at noon to arrive back in Portsmouth 4pm 28hours later but that depends on the weather and if she has no technical problems it's been known for her to be 30 odd hours late due to bad weather. Her schedule changes all the time recently don't know what she does now.
You do need your sealegs with you most of the time on her Terry if not at least a set of stabilisers LOL.
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Hi pigdog, she has a much easier time now. The Pride of Bilbao doesn't go to Cherbourg on a Saturday anymore.
She arrived early this morning, (Tuesday), and will leave this evening. When she arrives in Santurzi she will spend a day there. I think it might be a 4 day round trip now.
She has either had a bad paint job on the last refit or she has been through some very bad weather. The front of the superstructure has large patches of rust and 'rust runs' all over the place.
Regards, Dave
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Thanks for that Dave it sounds much more relaxing doing that than it used to be especially with that party cruise to Cherbourg now dropped.
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Hi pigdog, she has a much easier time now. The Pride of Bilbao doesn't go to Cherbourg on a Saturday anymore.
She arrived early this morning, (Tuesday), and will leave this evening. When she arrives in Santurzi she will spend a day there. I think it might be a 4 day round trip now.
This is just an update;
The Pride of Bilbao didn't leave on Tuesday night. According to ' http://www.shipais.com/showship.php?mmsi=308835000 ' she left tonight, (Wednesday), at 19.00 and is currently in the channel on her way to the 'Bay of Biscay'. Speed is 16.6 knots and heading 234 degrees SW.
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Isn't it more or less the same as the Pride of Rotterdam? Looks kind of the same. If they would offer more places to walk on the Pride of Rotterdam I'd be game with that too.
Don't look the same to me ;)
(http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/909/800pxprideofbilbaofd1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/1931/prideofhull1eg6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
I always thought the Pride of Bilbao was the bigger of the two, seems i'm wrong (215.1m VS 176.8m)
Maybe the PoR will replace the Bilbao when she retires....
There are actually more places to explore outside on the PoR in game than real. The Helipad is blocked off in real (The Captain of PoR explained this was because the deck below is home to the crew, and they don't like being woken up at 6:00am after a long night shift). Deck 8 and 7 are blocked off too because of equipment such as lifeboats, and trash like boxes are all over the place ready for recycling. Not really much to see on those decks.
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I suppose from memory the shape was all I remembered... they still resemble one another to me, better go get myself some glasses.
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and what about liverpool