Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => Media => Topic started by: jumbo_nth on September 05, 2008, 21:41:55
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guess what ....
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~nthaar/Shipsim2008_040.jpg)
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Looks like a new ship. O_O
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looks like the Agile's bridge.
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What ship is that?
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Agent Austin: new ship for sure
Trains: not the Agile
Minime: that's the question
all will be revealed, whatch this space, more tomorrow evening,
but keep those guesses coming... I know you lot can do better than this....
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From the picture it looks like a semi-submersible heavy lifting ship.
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good point. jumbo, i was stating that the bridge looks like the agile solution's.
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Just tell us what it is, I can't wait
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Is it the Elbe? Oh well. Probably not. But its just as good as you guys's guess.
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Is it the Elbe? Oh well. Probably not. But its just as good as you guys's guess.
You don't know what elbe looks like do you.. -.-
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You don't know what elbe looks like do you.. -.-
Yes i do. It was just a random guess. it was no better nor Worse than your or anyone elses guess.
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Hi there,
I think it could be something like this. (see pic.)
JUMBO SHIPPING: THE HEAVY LIFT SHIPPING COMPANY
Love to see those here in SS08 ;)
vr. gr. / kind regards Erik
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Yes i do. It was just a random guess. it was no better nor Worse than your or anyone elses guess.
Mine was new ship?
Elbe looks like this:
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,8727.0.html
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Mine was new ship?
Elbe looks like this:
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,8727.0.html
I already said Is it the Elbe? Oh well. Probably not. But its just as good as you guys's guess.
I ALREADY SAID I KNOW WHAT THE ELBE LOOKS LIKE. I EVEN SAID "PROBABALY NOT"
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I already said I ALREADY SAID I KNOW WHAT THE ELBE LOOKS LIKE. I EVEN SAID "PROBABLY NOT"
THE RULES ALREADY SAID DON'T YELL. :) (Learn how to spell PROBABLY)
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THE RULES ALREADY SAID DON'T YELL. :) (Learn how to spell PROBABLY)
HOW CAN YOU HEAR ME YELLING? I DIDN'T RECORD A VOICE CLIP. lol PROBABLY* uAHHH....
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Hi ,
I quite, your ego's are greater then the universe, good luck !
vr. gr. / kind regards Erik ;D
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I just want to know how come you guys think it's a new ship so much when the screenshot was taken in Ship Sim? :-\
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I KNOW WHAT IT IS!!!! It is the Agile Solution but with cargo on it!!!!!
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I KNOW WHAT IT IS!!!! It is the Agile Solution but with cargo on it!!!!!
Those cranes arn't the agile!
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Those cranes arn't the agile!
Whatever, My opinion, right now it seems like ever answer i guess you have a problem with it. but i HAVE seen pics of the Agile and it Does have thoses cranes but whatever. You are just going to argue with it...
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Whatever, My opinion, right now it seems like ever answer i guess you have a problem with it. but i HAVE seen pics of the Agile and it Does have thoses cranes but whatever. You are just going to argue with it...
The agile's cranes are white and have the boom swept down the side. I have it!
(http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/526/agilesolution20mo2.jpg)
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allright, last picture of the Agile definately rules that one out.
Mastcranes on this one are a kind of yellowish (sandcolour) and it got the jibs stowed in a vertical position.
Unfortunately you can't see the hull colour yet, but that might improve later on.
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The agile's cranes are white and have the boom swept down the side. I have it!
(http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/526/agilesolution20mo2.jpg)
I knew you were going to show a picture. Whatever. You seem to know what it is (or you thnk you do ::))
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Hi there,
I think it could be something like this. (see pic.)
JUMBO SHIPPING: THE HEAVY LIFT SHIPPING COMPANY
Love to see those here in SS08 ;)
vr. gr. / kind regards Erik
I have to go with Evis on this one. It looks very similar to the shiff. But I am quite baffeled by the bridge in the first picture. It looks as though it is facing the shiff as the agile solution's bridge does.
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This looks interesting. It definetly isn't the Agile or the Elbe ( ::) ) but looks to be based on the Agile in a way.
Maybe something new for the shipyard.....
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My guess is there is more than one ship in that picture
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If you care to look carefully at the first picture and compare with that which Eviss shows I think it looks quite obvious. There is a mast in front of the bridge just as Eviss's picture shows. But I can't see why the need to get upset about things, cool down folks. >:(
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That's what I've been thinking all along but I can't figure out which ships.
I think the super structure is from the "Small Container ship" and not the Solution because the solution has it's exhaust on the side of the structure which would be in plain view in this picture.
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Looks like a giant barrel near the Stern.
(http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/836/80676673md0.png) (http://imageshack.us)
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i think it's this one. i think Vstep made it for shipsim08.
am i right?
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=cEiSwPztUeI
maritiem
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No, definetly not, the bridge is at the front of the ship in that video.
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No, definetly not, the bridge is at the front of the ship in that video.
maybe she drives backwards? thought?
maritiem
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hmmmm, looks like there is a new ship? maybe that explains why the Elbe is late, because V-Step are working on something else....Are we allowed to know more about this ship yet?
Jack.
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Maybe this is a pipe layer like the Solitaire:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/smittug/revfik/SOLITAIRE5.jpg
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BTW where did you actually get this picture from jumbo?
maritiem
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BTW where did you actually get this picture from?
maritiem
What ^^ that one? It suddenly came to me that the ship looks like a pipe layer so i found a random image of a pipe layer in google.
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What ^^ that one? It suddenly came to me that the ship looks like a pipe layer so i found a random image of a pipe layer in google.
i was forgotten to write the name down to who i was writing too. :-X ;D
maritiem
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the ship looks like this ship expect the colors ofcourse and that the cranes are standing on the other side of the ship.
maritiem
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You could also google for "jumbo javelin", for instance, and you could find some references to the ship.
Regards,
Luc
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http://www.thamesshipsociety.org.uk/images/Images2007/Jumbo-Javelin-17-June-2007.jpg
Well that just gave it all away ;D
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So that's the ship will it be a part of SS08?
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So that's the ship will it be a part of SS08?
I'm guessing that, since 2 developers have posted here, it is in the SS08 section and the screenshot is from SS08.
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Yes maybe it's a surprice for us
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Yes maybe it's a surprice for us
That's the way everything VSTEP makes for the Shipyard should be, secret.
If they announce it in the early stages, it may take so long to be released that we all have lost interest in it when it finally appears.
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Yes it would be much better if we never knew what to see in the shipyard. But like we got now we should get som hints on some of the ship that were coming
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Yes maybe it's a surprice for us
let it hope so.
maritiem
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well guess most people now know what it is, more info on http://www.jumboship.nl/ (http://www.jumboship.nl/)
and another picture just for fun;
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~nthaar/Shipsim2008_025.jpg)
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nice, do you know when it will be ready for download?
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WOW, that's good detail. Best bridge in SS08..?
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I can't wait to try that ship. looks so nice and detailed
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My God, thats amazing!!!! I love you v-step!!!!!! *hugs computer*
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i have no words for it.
maritiem
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Amazing!
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Gentlemen,
There has been a topic on the Jumbo Javelin for about a month. It’s old news.
Marty
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Oh, we need to catch up "on the gossip" then!
Is there a link at all please?
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http://forum.shipsim.com/index.php/topic,9548.msg112117.html#msg112117]
This is The Jumbo Javelin
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Many thanks :)
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mvsmith;
might be old news, but not that many people saw the screenshots yet.
hope they are appreciated.
will post a fullpicture tomorrow, including the vacuumtower as loaded on board the vessel.
If there's anything people like to know about the Jumbo Javelin (the ship) just ask and I see if I can answer it. Or maybe open a seperate topic for it in an appropriate group, like development?
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Hi Jumbo_nth.
I’m glad that you have broken the news. I didn’t want to go too far without an announcement from VSTEP. That will certainly be an interesting vessel to play with.
Regards,
Marty
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The bridge really looks good. Where did you obtain the in-game pictures?
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the captain;
The Jumbo Javelin is probably the most detailed ship created sofar and therefore requiring a high spec computer to get the best out of it. This is only the front part of the vridge, in fact is a rather big area where you cna walk around and even look at the cargo stowed on deck.
Also walking on deck is supported, but there is no engineroom available.
Pictures were taken when I was playing the two dedicated jumbo missions available.
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Ohh. And the jumbo is going to be in the shipyard?
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I really don't know yet, surely hope so :P. Because I would love to sail the other ports as well, for now it's only Rotterdam (her maiden port) and the ocean.
But as Rotterdam is a very big area indeed there is plenty to explore.
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That is true, but I was really hoping that they would only have it in SS 09 :(. Ahh, all the shiffs they are going to make are going to be made are going into the shiffyard, and then are going to be included in SS09. That is my opinion of things at the moment.
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Would we be able to have some screen shots of Jumbo soon? i'd love to see what she looks like properly.
Jack.
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Would we be able to have some screen shots of Jumbo soon? i'd love to see what she looks like properly.
Jack.
yes me too!
maritiem
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And me!
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This year, next year, some time, NEVER
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well guess most people now know what it is, more info on http://www.jumboship.nl/ (http://www.jumboship.nl/)
and another picture just for fun;
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~nthaar/Shipsim2008_025.jpg)
It has a bow thruster! YAY. Easy docking this one!
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And I think it only have one thruster :-\. Awh man :(. Oh well, best enjoy it anyway ;D!
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It's not gunna be like ocean star with the same images of stuff stuck around the cabin (forgotten the right word) and reversed?
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And I think it only have one thruster :-\. Awh man :(. Oh well, best enjoy it anyway ;D!
Firestar likey thruster :D *Touches thruster then backs his hand away quickly in fear of getting hurt. Touches it again...* *Waiting for his FSX Demo do finish downloading becuase its at 75%*
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I don't really think there is no need for stern thrusters on a vessel with 2 props.
The Sherpa has 2 because it makes it useful for her job.
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I don't really think there is no need for stern thrusters on a vessel with 2 props.
The Sherpa has 2 because it makes it useful for her job.
I cant wait. This vessel looks like a sure hottie :)
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I agree, can't wait for this one ;D
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I agree, can't wait for this one ;D
ERRRR IM TOO EXITED. PLEASE POST ANOTHER PICTURE FOR US!!!!;)
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ERRRR IM TOO EXITED. PLEASE POST ANOTHER PICTURE FOR US!!!!;)
I think you should stop using Caps, it's considered shouting on the web ;)
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I think you should stop using Caps, it's considered shouting on the web ;)
Sorry. :'( Im just SO EXITED! yay. please post another pic. This vessel's bridge is nice. Its bridge kinda looks like the Agile's but it is cooler. I can tell this one will be popular on MP!
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How can i post a pic ::)
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Ok, here is another picture showing all of the vessel without cargo this time.
Regarding thrusters the following;
our J-types (4) are standard fitted with a single bowthruster and two main engines, however two of them are adapted to be used as offshore vessels and are DP2-capable. This meant an additional bowthruster and a sternthruster (azimuth) is installed.
The Jumbo Javelin is offshore-capable and in game we have two engines, a bowthrust and the azimuth thruster at the stern. However during normal sailing (including mooring) it is never used in real live.
Enjou the picture
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~nthaar/Shipsim2008_066.jpg)
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Wow, that looks fantastic. Can we have another picture of the bridge?
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Ok, here is another picture showing all of the vessel without cargo this time.
Regarding thrusters the following;
our J-types (4) are standard fitted with a single bowthruster and two main engines, however two of them are adapted to be used as offshore vessels and are DP2-capable. This meant an addiotnal bowthruster and a sternthruster (azimuth) is installed.
The Jumbo Javelin is offshore-capable and in game we have two engines, a bowthrust and the azimuth thruster at the stern. However during normal sailing (including mooring) it is never used in real live.
Enjou the picture
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~nthaar/Shipsim2008_066.jpg)
How can i post a pic ::)
Yes Yes Yes! This pic is AWESOME! ThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyouThankyou!!!
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OK, I will be posting pics regulary no need to ask.
Regarding the bridge it's modelled as the original bridge from the vessel including decorations, computer screens and such based on photographs and videos. Therefore it is very close to the real thing.
You can also visit the website for some information on our ships and even more pictures altough that is mostly about loading/discharging cargo.
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OK, I will be posting pics regulary no need to ask.
Regarding the bridge it's modelled as the original bridge from the vessel including decorations, computer screens and such based on photographs and videos. Therefore it is very close to the real thing.
You can also visit the website for some information on our ships and even more pictures altough that is mostly about loading/discharging cargo.
Will we be able to load cargo on it with CRANES?
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Wow, that looks fantastic. Can we have another picture of the bridge?
Sure Nathan, heres a pic of the Bridge: Enjoy! (http://www.xs4all.nl/~nthaar/Shipsim2008_025.jpg)
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i hope they will put it in the shipyard instead of puting it in SS09 cause i can't wait too play with it! ;D
BTW jumbo nth are you working for jumbo shipping?
on more question wich cargo can be transported (in the game)? and can you ofload the goods by your self?
looking forward too see more pictures! ;)
kind regards maritiem
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Sure Nathan, heres a pic of the Bridge: Enjoy! (http://www.xs4all.nl/~nthaar/Shipsim2008_025.jpg)
You have been getting very annoying recently. What was the point of that >:(
Wow, that looks fantastic. Can we have another picture of the bridge?
Use your brain....
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You have been getting very annoying recently. What was the point of that >:(
Use your brain....
lol. It was a joke Nathan ::)
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lol. It was a joke Nathan ::)
lol. I didn't ask for a Joke i asked for a bridge pictures ;)
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That looks lovely, can't wait. :)
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Great ship you to Go to your seperat computers *Yells at Nathan|C and Firestar12
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Great ship you to Go to your seperat computers *Yells at Nathan|C and Firestar12
Can you make some sense please?
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I said stop arguing and go to your sepertte Computers
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I said stop arguing and go to your sepertte Computers
So you're saying we were sharing a computer??? That would of made it a little awkard being 20000 miles away from each other.
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no just saying like go to you seperate room but like go to your seperate computers ;D just being silly ::) :P ;) :D :)
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no just saying like go to you seperate room but like go to your seperate computers ;D just being silly ::) :P ;) :D :)
Yes..... ::)
More off topicness and unpleasentness for the forum then.
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Maritiem:
I'm working for Jumbo Shipping and was involved in development of our game as well.
The cargo that must be loaded in the Rotterdam harbour mission is a vacuumtower,
part of it can be seen on the first picture in this thread. It's an item we have transported before on our ships and was available in autocad/3dmax at the time. I'll see if I can get a picture when walking on deck (with the cargo), that's something different.
The object of the mission is to berth alongside a barge which has the cargo on it. When that's done the cargo will be magically transfer to the ships deck. So no, you can't control the cranes.
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Maritiem:
I'm working for Jumbo Shipping and was involved in development of our game as well.
The cargo that must be loaded in the Rotterdam harbour mission is a vacuumtower,
part of it can be seen on the first picture in this thread. It's an item we have transported before on our ships and was available in autocad/3dmax at the time. I'll see if I can get a picture when walking on deck (with the cargo), that's something different.
The object of the mission is to berth alongside a barge which has the cargo on it. When that's done the cargo will be magically transfer to the ships deck. So no, you can't control the cranes.
Sounds just like what SS08 is missing. Can't wait for this.
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Maritiem:
I'm working for Jumbo Shipping and was involved in development of our game as well.
The cargo that must be loaded in the Rotterdam harbour mission is a vacuumtower,
part of it can be seen on the first picture in this thread. It's an item we have transported before on our ships and was available in autocad/3dmax at the time. I'll see if I can get a picture when walking on deck (with the cargo), that's something different.
The object of the mission is to berth alongside a barge which has the cargo on it. When that's done the cargo will be magically transfer to the ships deck. So no, you can't control the cranes.
ok thnx looking really forward to this ship! and the pictures ofcourse.
so you don't know if it comes in the shipyard or in the next SS09?
maritiem
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Maritiem:
I'm working for Jumbo Shipping and was involved in development of our game as well.
The cargo that must be loaded in the Rotterdam harbour mission is a vacuumtower,
part of it can be seen on the first picture in this thread. It's an item we have transported before on our ships and was available in autocad/3dmax at the time. I'll see if I can get a picture when walking on deck (with the cargo), that's something different.
The object of the mission is to berth alongside a barge which has the cargo on it. When that's done the cargo will be magically transfer to the ships deck. So no, you can't control the cranes.
It sounds brilliant, I also was going to ask the same question as maritiem.
Jack.
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You can't get it, thats what we are all waiting for to hear: when will we will be able to sail it.
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Hi there,
I think it could be something like this. (see pic.)
JUMBO SHIPPING: THE HEAVY LIFT SHIPPING COMPANY
Love to see those here in SS08 ;)
vr. gr. / kind regards Erik
why argue AA Erik haw right her you cant win all the time AA
Sorry if the English spelling are to bad
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2urkwee.jpg)
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can we see some more pics please?
maritiem
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Where can i get it or when does it come to the shipyard ???
Greetings,
eggy1991
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Where can i get it or when does it come to the shipyard ???
Greetings,
eggy1991
Hi Eggy, this has already been asked and answered in the same topic ! For now, you can't get it. It might be available one day in the shipyard, but this hasn't been planned for now.
From what I know, this ship will be released as a stand-alone version of Ship Sim, it's a special command from Jumbo Shipping.
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Thanks for the reply, i hope it comes out ever.
eggy1991
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Another picture from the bridge
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~nthaar/Shipsim2008_089.jpg)
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now that's nice.
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Yes that's so nice even a training bike, that's what I call good modelling
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I can not wait for this. I worked all summer for my grandfather and he didn't pay me. not at ALL. I suppose i have to find another way for money. Great ship. By the way, can you go in lookout nest? Please post another picture.
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Please post another picture.
Yes, It´s a great ship!!
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I don’t see the coffee maker. No coffee, no deal. I can’t hack that Dutch gin.
Marty
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I don’t see the coffee maker. No coffee, no deal. I can’t hack that Dutch gin.
Marty
Um...Super random? Lol. You might bring your coffe maker anyways to make it trhrough the night.
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They must have a coffee maker somewhere on that ship, it's like a standard equipment on ships
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Wow, that is the best bridge ive seen so far.
Great ship!
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Coffeemaker; it was left out as the bridge (in fact the whole ship) was already very very detailed. It is located next to the sink.
Dutch gin; in the old days when the ships were made of wood and man of steel it was the next best thing, nowadays with all these regulations and the steel ships ... ;D
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Hi Nico,
Was it not the introduction of the gyrocompass that brought about the switch to coffee?
Regards,
Marty
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do you have some more pics please.
maritiem
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Maritiem; another picture. Forgot to take the screenshots but still had this one on my harddisk.
Jumbo Javelin is departing just after loading the vacuumtower on deck, check out capt. Bluebeard's picture of the real thing a couple of messages earlier on this page.
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~nthaar/Shipsim2008_098.jpg)
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Maritiem; another picture. Forgot to take the screenshots but still had this one on my harddisk.
Jumbo Javelin is departing just after loading the vacuumtower on deck, check out capt. Bluebeard's picture of the real thing a couple of messages earlier on this page.
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~nthaar/Shipsim2008_098.jpg)
Do the cranes work?
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The object of the mission is to berth alongside a barge which has the cargo on it. When that's done the cargo will be magically transfer to the ships deck. So no, you can't control the cranes.
In regards to "do the cranes work?"
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In regards to "do the cranes work?"
What is her top speed?
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What is her top speed?
Yes. What part didn't you understand.
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Yes. What part didn't you understand.
What is her top speed?
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more info on http://www.jumboship.nl/ (http://www.jumboship.nl/)
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cranes:
in real life the cranes work ;D
in shipsim the cargo is magically transferred from storage to ships deck as mentioned on page 4
speed;
from the cranes or the vessel?
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cranes:
in real life the cranes work ;D
in shipsim the cargo is magically transferred from storage to ships deck as mentioned on page 4
speed;
from the cranes or the vessel?
Speed of ship. And woud you be able to transfer to another ship or in MP?
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Speed of the vessel is upto 18knots but with the current fuel prices you really don't want to do that last knot.
The Mission for the Javelin only allows for loading the cargo onto the ship.
I don't think multiplayer is supported as the ship isn't available in the regular ShipSim2008 version.
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Speed of the vessel is upto 18knots but with the current fuel prices you really don't want to do that last knot.
The Mission for the Javelin only allows for loading the cargo onto the ship.
I don't think multiplayer is supported as the ship isn't available in the regular ShipSim2008 version.
Where is it avaliable. :P
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i dont know. where?
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It's not avalaible for our SS08 yet.
VSTEP made a custom SS08 version for Jumbo Shipping, with one of their ships in it.
The vessel might be released to us aswell, but as I understand it, at present, no concrete information is available on what, when, how, etc... So we'll have to wait and see.
If VSTEP decides what to do and when, we'll all surely hear about it in an announcement right here on the forum.
I hope that answers the "when are we getting this?" side of things. :)
Regards,
Fred
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Then may I be the first (in this sense) to say I really hope we get this ship soon. :)
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Mee too, it looks fantastic ;D
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don't forget me ;) ;D
maritiem
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don't forget me ;) ;D
maritiem
meeeeeeeee tooooooooo Im very sorry nathan. Im talking about when vstep releases it.
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Read above Firestar, there is your answer.
It's not avalaible for our SS08 yet.
VSTEP made a custom SS08 version for Jumbo Shipping, with one of their ships in it.
The vessel might be released to us aswell, but as I understand it, at present, no concrete information is available on what, when, how, etc... So we'll have to wait and see.
If VSTEP decides what to do and when, we'll all surely hear about it in an announcement right here on the forum.
I hope that answers the "when are we getting this?" side of things. :)
Regards,
Fred
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Why don't you just combine those 3 post into one firestar?
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Why don't you just combine those 3 post into one firestar?
Good idea!
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Any Chance you could make a video and put it on youtube? (Sorry if the topic is too old)
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cranes:
in real life the cranes work ;D
in shipsim the cargo is magically transferred from storage to ships deck as mentioned on page 4
speed;
from the cranes or the vessel?
Cranes won't be working even on this ship?! :o :o :o :o :o :o Then that's not interesting for me anymore! >:( >:( >:( :'(. I think we have to wait for ~ Ship Simulator 2010, or 2015, or even 2020 to have all working things in this game! ;)
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firestar12: sorry no videos
foyen: this one isn't for you anyway and who know's what vstep is planning for the next release.
I think if we can sail the Jumbo Javelin in ShipSim2008 it would already be a big step ahead, such a shame the year 2009 is only 3 months away.
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Cranes won't be working even on this ship?! :o :o :o :o :o :o Then that's not interesting for me anymore! >:( >:( >:( :'(. I think we have to wait for ~ Ship Simulator 2010, or 2015, or even 2020 to have all working things in this game! ;)
Remember, the name of the game is SHIP simulator.
I think the ship is great!
And I don't care about the cranes not working, do you play a lot with the crane?
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Remember, the name of the game is SHIP simulator.
I think the ship is great!
And I don't care about the cranes not working, do you play a lot with the crane?
You got a big good point there Sam.
its more than great to use cranes on land.
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I mean, I wish to see MORE REALISTIC(!) ;D in this game, but NO :-\ - it's still like SS06! >:(
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its far away like SS06.
You should look at the SS08 Features and SS0 Features,
SS08 is no way like SS06
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its far away like SS06.
You should look at the SS08 Features and SS0 Features,
SS08 is no way like SS06
But imagine for example, you're playin on this ship, approaching the harbour, docking, loading/unloading heavy cargo with cranes (like loading containers with help of the crane in one of the missions), then you're ready to leave the harbour.... I think it's more realistic & interesting than just sailing & docking. Who knows, if, for example, during the loading operation your ship will be overloaded, it'll capsize right near the dock - just like in real life....
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But imagine for example, you're playin on this ship, approaching the harbour, docking, loading/unloading heavy cargo with cranes (like loading containers with help of the crane in one of the missions), then you're ready to leave the harbour.... I think it's more realistic & interesting than just sailing & docking. Who knows, if, for example, during the loading operation your ship will be overloaded, it'll capsize right near the dock - just like in real life....
Then Buy Crane Simulator.
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Then Buy Crane Simulator.
like, another silly post from firestar12....
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FOYEN,
The question of working cranes on vessels has been beaten to death before. Parroting the same suggestions made by others will not make it more likely that they will be implemented. Firestar put it bluntly, but he has a good point.
There are much more important features for VSTEP to concentrate on at this point.
Marty
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Ok, question closed, will search for a better game....
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Ok, question closed, will search for a better game....
Good luck on finding one better than SS08 ;)
You'll need it....
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I mean, I wish to see MORE REALISTIC(!) ;D in this game, but NO :-\ - it's still like SS06! >:(
You can't drive the little baggage tractors in FSX, you can only fly PLANES in a FLIGHT simulator. So here you drive SHIPS in a SHIP simulator.
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And a crane and a duck :D With some addons you can drive cars on flight simulator as well but they're not very realistic
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Well, If you want the cranes to be realistic, you will need to play the game a few hours, beceaus in real life, loading a +- 1000T load isn't done in a few minutes.
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Well, If you want the cranes to be realistic, you will need to play the game a few hours, beceaus in real life, loading a +- 1000T load isn't done in a few minutes.
Gonna be more then 1000T. The average 20ft container is 20 tons. Although most are 40ft now that are loaded up to 30 tons. But even then they seem to LOVE to overload those things.
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And a crane and a duck :D With some addons you can drive cars on flight simulator as well but they're not very realistic
The duck is an easter egg. Those are always fun. I like the Fire one (Hence my username) Where on like every tug you can just type Flames and they will appear (Every tug Including RPA, Excluding Bugsier 2 and Igor K.)
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Gonna be more then 1000T. The average 20ft container is 20 tons. Although most are 40ft now that are loaded up to 30 tons. But even then they seem to LOVE to overload those things.
The Jumbo Javelin is a Heavy lift ship like the agile solution.
I don't think that they will use their cranes for loading containers, beceaus each crane can lift 800T.
I am talking about loading one big (+1000T) load.
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guess what ....
(http://www.xs4all.nl/~nthaar/Shipsim2008_040.jpg)
Is it The offshore drilingplace with the agile ?
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Hi svenuske1,
You'll see that it was answered long ago, if you scroll through these pages.
It's the Jumbo Javelin, made (as yet) exclusively for Jumbo Shipping
Fred
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I don't mean to sound nosy, but, what are Jumbo Shipping going to use their own personal SS for? would it be for advertisement purposes? Either way, I assume it works on the same principal as our SS08? meaning it shouldn't be too hard to convert it IF they said "Sure, go ahead".
Just guessing there.
Jack.
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Perhaps as a free give away demo for future seaman at maritime schools. There is a big shortage on crew, so this would be a orginal way to attrackt them. Atleast it's would be better than the last advertising from Jumbo, a picture from the Die Hard movie with Bruce Willis with the text on it "He got the X factor but not the Jumbo factor" or something like that written on it. :P
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I don't mean to sound nosy, but, what are Jumbo Shipping going to use their own personal SS for? would it be for advertisement purposes? Either way, I assume it works on the same principal as our SS08? meaning it shouldn't be too hard to convert it IF they said "Sure, go ahead".
Just guessing there.
Jack.
Jack
I am sure that somewhere in this thread, or another one (!) it says that Jumbo commissioned this as a training aid for their staff?
Rgds
Mike
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I don’t suppose it could be for demonstrating the capabilities of their vessel to prospective clients. Most likely it is a Christmas present for the CEO’s kids.
In any case, they paid for it, and it is theirs to do with as they wish. It is really not our business.
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Strange that there was a locked server on MP tonight with Jumbo on it, I wonder why and how many people can use it?????
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Strange that there was a locked server on MP tonight with Jumbo on it, I wonder why and how many people can use it?????
i was see the server. but there was only 1 there.
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Terry was testing something...
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Terry was testing something...
do you have Jumbo Javelin?
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do you have Jumbo Javelin?
Probably. He IS a Mod. And i know a few things that i dont know if im allowed to say about them and their relationship with VSTEP so ill stop there.
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Terry was testing something...
Terry, Terry, Terry..... you know it's mandatory to have a look out at the bridge.... next time when you take her out for a ride i will volunteer for this hard job... :P
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WOOOOW, Bottman placed some really nice pics of the Javelin ;D
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,10332.msg125222.html#new
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WOW! I have seen a few ships like this at sea..What a great addition.. Will it be available soon?
Best Regards,
Galen
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Hopefully! There is just some fine tuning left... :D
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Hang on, i'm confused :P
I thought this wasn't going to be for everyone? I thought it was just for Jumbo Shipping?
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Nope, it's for the masses - soon.
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Ooh, thanks :)
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If Bottman is suggesting this will be available to us through the shipyard, let me just say this;
I'm 'aving that!
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LOL, same ;D
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Probably. He IS a Mod. And i know a few things that i dont know if im allowed to say about them and their relationship with VSTEP so ill stop there.
Now, I'm not saying I do have Javelin. But if I did, it wouldn't be because I'm a moderator. Those two events would not be linked, even though they may both exist.
Or not.
Possibly.
And if I did have it, I might say that it is indeed a worthy vessel.
Assuming I had it.
Which I might not.
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Now, I'm not saying I do have Javelin. But if I did, it wouldn't be because I'm a moderator. Those two events would not be linked, even though they may both exist.
Or not.
Possibly.
And if I did have it, I might say that it is indeed a worthy vessel.
Assuming I had it.
Which I might not.
Very convincing terry ::)
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Now, I'm not saying I do have Javelin. But if I did, it wouldn't be because I'm a moderator. Those two events would not be linked, even though they may both exist.
Or not.
Possibly.
And if I did have it, I might say that it is indeed a worthy vessel.
Assuming I had it.
Which I might not.
Suspicious ;D
I Don't know what to believe....
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http://jumboship.arrowgraphics.nl/shipsimulator/
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Wait. Now I dont get it either. It is FREE? According to that link it is. PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME THE TRUTH.
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i dont know. i getted a link to download it but that wasn't working.
I think we have to wait. Ever i hope it comes in the shipyard of in a free update/patch
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It would seem that they are using it for recruiting. If you can convince them that you are seriously considering a career with them, and that you are someone they might consider employing, you get to play with the Javelin. I don’t know how many cabin boys they need.
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It would seem that they are using it for recruiting. If you can convince them that you are seriously considering a career with them, and that you are someone they might consider employing, you get to play with the Javelin. I don’t know how many cabin boys they need.
I wanna be a cabin boy! "HEY WHAT DOES THIS BUTTON DO"
"Uh..Pleas don.."
KABOOOOOOOOOOM
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Hmmm....Well, I think that Bottman wouldn't have the Jumbo Javelin if it wasn't going into SS08. Maybe they let him have it as a thankyou, but since he's said "It will be available for the masses" I'm starting to wonder if Beta Testing is happening.
Only time will tell.....
Jack.
p.s. been doing some detective work! :o :D translated what Bottman said in the German forum!
It hasn't turned out 100% correct, since its Google Translator, but i thought i'd try it and got these results.
"Man, this is a whole bouquet of questions!
So, you can just bridge deck and the main perpetrators. And of course the back and Schanz. Drive? Correctly suspected! In the original, the boat an retractable pod and two bow thrusters.
When? Hopefully soon! As written, there are still some fine-tuning required.
The loading and unloading is done, unfortunately, as by magic, or in other words, the vacuum tower will be sent to and from the deck gebeamt. The cranes are not taxable. Other specialized cargo is not yet available.
I like the ship is therefore very good, because it was modeled very realistically. I think the "Jumbo Javelin" still ticking even better than the "Elbe", so even the reflections on the bridge windows have been also many details on the bridge. And this drive is relatively large ship is also very good. Only the Podantrieb is only taxable on the mouse - and this is not always possible. But also because exercise makes the Masters, especially since the main drive already has sufficient power.
Wait worth it!
Gruß"
Obviously some of it dosen't make sence, but either way, thats basically what is happening!
And more translations of text further down:
"Well, there's no doubt that the "Jumbo Javelin" on the next ship at The Shipyard will belong! We create even the first missions to do so.
Gruß"
Again, some of it hasn't been translated perfect.
I'm starting to get excited! :D ;D
Jack.
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Suspicious ;D
I Don't know what to believe....
And if I had Jumbo Javelin, which I might not, I might be beta testing it myself.
Or maybe I'm not.
And if I did have it on my server th eother evening, which I might not have done, I might be writing missions for it.
Possibly.
Or maybe not.
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Now, I'm not saying I do have Javelin. But if I did, it wouldn't be because I'm a moderator. Those two events would not be linked, even though they may both exist.
Or not.
Possibly.
And if I did have it, I might say that it is indeed a worthy vessel.
Assuming I had it.
Which I might not.
And if I had Jumbo Javelin, which I might not, I might be beta testing it myself.
Or maybe I'm not.
And if I did have it on my server th eother evening, which I might not have done, I might be writing missions for it.
Possibly.
Or maybe not.
Careful you don't contradict yourself Terry!!
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Hey, what a strange discussion! I'm a Beta-Tester - yes. And I've got the "Jumbo" for creating some missions for it's launch in The Shipyard - and other mission creators too. And we've got the permission from VSTEP's technical director (chief developer) to inform the forum about the vessel. All in all it's the same procedure as it has been with every other Beta-Version. No secrets... ::)
Best regards
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Wait. Now I dont get it either. It is FREE? According to that link it is. PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME THE TRUTH.
That link is the training version made by VSTEP especially for Jumboship. It probably only contains the Javelin and 2 enviroments. As Bottman said in his German post and the one above, we'll get it in the shipyard ;D (Probably for a small price though, which i never mind)
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Hey, what a strange discussion! I'm a Beta-Tester - yes. And I've got the "Jumbo" for creating some missions for it's launch in The Shipyard - and other mission creators too. And we've got the permission from VSTEP's technical director (chief developer) to inform the forum about the vessel. All in all it's the same procedure as it has been with every other Beta-Version. No secrets... ::)
Best regards
You know I'm a tease! It's due to all the Marmite.
Or is it?
Possibly.
Or maybe not.
But seriously, Javelin is an excellent vessel. Just wandering around it will take a lot of time, never mind the missions, which I know will be entertaining and challenging. Lots of interesting places to go and interesting things to see.
I think it will be well worth the small amount of money that will be asked for it.
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Do you have some picture's for us Terry? If not, no worries (assuming you have her from your post?)
Thanks v-step/mods! :)
Jack.
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I have a question about the azipod on the aft, is it mainly for the DP system?
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Yes it is. But it's not realised for the simulation, unfortunately.. ;)
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Do you have some picture's for us Terry? If not, no worries (assuming you have her from your post?)
Thanks v-step/mods! :)
Jack.
If you google "Jumbo Javelin", you'll find a lot of images of the real thing. The Vstep model is a pretty good model of reality.
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i have one question. is it possible to play with this ship in multiplayer?
maritiem
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Of course! But it's the same as before with the other Shipyard vessels - you couldn't see them, if you don't have them. Guess, there are special servers on duty then...
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Of course! But it's the same as before with the other Shipyard vessels - you couldn't see them, if you don't have them. Guess, there are special servers on duty then...
ok thnx
maritiem
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I have a question about the azipod on the aft, is it mainly for the DP system?
Here is a screenshot, showing the bow thruster in combination with the retractable azimuth thruster as parts of the DP. Well, this one isn't retractable in the game of course... ;)
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Thanks Bottman. I already thought it was for the DP system, otherwise it would be a very expensive stern thruster :P I wanted to know it for sure, thats why my question.
Thanks for the screenshots :)
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Indeed the link given earlier is showing our companies (Jumbo) version with two missions in the Rotterdam/Northsea area. It is given free to people who are interested in sailing with our company (and off course are qualified to do so) and some commercial relations as well as all personel.
I do hope it will show up in the Shipyard soon as it is a very detailed model and a lovely ship to sail.
The azimuth control is indeed part of the DP2 system the ship is equipped with altough this is only used for offshore installation jobs and NOT during normal sailing and cargo operations. Therfore to get the best sailing experience don't use it !
Any questions about the ship or company feel free to ask or check www.jumboship.nl (http://www.jumboship.nl)
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Hi Jumbo_nth,
there I have found the attached drawing. There can be seen, that the single retractable azimuth thruster is located much more forward and it looks, as if the vessel has just a single screw arrangement. What's wrong now?
Regards
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Bottman;
The ship is build with a double bowthurst, dual engine (at the stern) and a azimuth (retractable) at the 'nearly' aft. The picture you show should not be on our website and I'll check on that tomorrow.
FYI originally the ship was built conventional with a single bowthrust and dual engine. Later a DP2 modification was carried out and another bowthrust and a rectractable azinuth (aft) were installed. The picture you show was probably one of the 'probable' solutions which didn't make it.
We will soon have four ships in this J-type class, two with the conventional single bowthurst/dual engine concept and two featuring DP2. The 3rd vessel will enter service in november this year (now being outfitted with the cranes) and the 4th by mid next year.
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In the game, does she have an azimuth and the normal rudder/propellor system? Or is it just one of those?
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if you watch the topis "Shipyard News" on the german forum, there is a picture with the controls on it.
There you can watch the controls.
Gr,
eggy1991
This was my 100st post, fun ;D ;D
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She has both Nathan, but the azipod can only be operated with the mouse.
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Found it Eggy1991,
Thanks to you both, that azimuth should be useful for docking!
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I looked at the jumboship.nl page and I found this video about the Jumbo Javelin and the company : http://www.jumboshipping.nl/awm/downloads/JumboOffshore%2014min.wmv (http://www.jumboshipping.nl/awm/downloads/JumboOffshore%2014min.wmv)
I thought it could be interesting to see the ship in action :)
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[hintfordevelopers]
I also posted it on the German forum, but that barge with deckload would also be very nice to tow! ;)
[/hintfordevelopers]
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I filled in the form and got a mail with a downloadlink from jumboship, but it doesn't work ???
To bad, did anyone else download the Jumbo Javelin simulator?
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I just sended a message to jumbo ship. I will tell you when it is possible to download.
Until now you cant download it.
Gr,
eggy1991
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I just sended a message to jumbo ship. I will tell you when it is possible to download.
Until now you cant download it.
Gr,
eggy1991
nice that you have sent a message to they :)
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Which ship is this? :) :P
(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3518/ship2tb3.jpg)
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Which ship is this? :) :P
(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/3518/ship2tb3.jpg)
that is an IWT ship, an standart AI ship.
Gr,
eggy1991
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I can't help but notice that in above picture, there's a rather large barge with one of the gas thingies that go on the Jumbo, on it. Will that be available for towing etc?
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I understand from some of the posts that the "tower" on the barge can be loaded onto Jumbo Javelin. Not sure about towing the barge though, we'll just have to wait and see.
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It's a large pontoon for oversea duties with the vacuum-tower on top. Until now (beta status) it's not towable. And of course, you can load the tower onto the "Jumbo Javelin", but this is just beaming, not loading.. ::)
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It would be a shame if you can't tow it.
It would be perfect for the sherpa.
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OK Guys: Who stole the @#%! coffee pot?
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OK Guys: Who stole the @#%! coffee pot?
It Couldnt be other person that TERRY ;D
I think he belive that it is a Marmite Pot :D
No. im only Joking ;D
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OK Guys: Who stole the @#%! coffee pot?
*Calls Terry in for explanation* - Probably likes his tea more ;)
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We had to move it, because the hypertransport to the lower deck is next to it.
PS Terry doesn't drink tea. Coffee only......
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Why doesn't Vstep create such a nice bridge interior to all ships from ShipSim?
maritiem
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It's a question of money! The "Jumbo Javelin" sponsoring allows VSTEP to improve their usual quality to meet the sponsors expectations. :)
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The wheelhouse looks very good that's for sure! If new ships is getting this level of interior I'm 10% more positive to Ship Simulator 2009. 8)
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Wow. This is great. Its gonna be all MINE. But im probably not going to use it how its supposed to (I will use the azipod for speed ;D(But hey, Thats just me) I am really impressed VSTEP. You guys can do anything. But whats is this i hear about not being able to tug it?
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I dont think that the azipod will give you that extra speed with the main engines at full trottle. ;)
Bridge looks great indeed! ;D
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But whats is this i hear about not being able to tug it?
Guess this statement was made according to the large pontoon, not to the "Jumbo" itself. Hopefully. Gonna test it...
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Javelin can be towed like any other player ship. The pontoon can also be towed, but the current dynamics make it difficult. Bug2 can get it above 1 knot; Sherpa about twice that.
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Javelin can be towed like any other player ship. The pontoon can also be towed, but the current dynamics make it difficult. Bug2 can get it above 1 knot; Sherpa about twice that.
Im missing something. What pontoon?
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The pontoon where your load is on.
Like, the vacuumtower wich u can load onto the ship.
Just look a few pages back.
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Until now you will need the pontoon as a game play element for loading/unloading the vacuum tower to the "Jumbo Javelin". Hopefully we will get the pontoon for towing means, for other payload and at least the vacuum tower to be load/unload at every normal quay. Hopefully... ::)
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Ship Simulator actually is making a ship that has been on the great lakes!?!? :o
well i dont know about this exact ship but ships of the Jumbo heavy lift company have been on the great lakes
i never thought this would happen,
this has to be the best thing since sliced bread ;D
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It's the best thing since the Titanic was added!
Now all they need is the Edmund Fitzgerald and the Great Lakes! ;D
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It's the best thing since the Titanic was added!
Now all they need is the Edmund Fitzgerald and the Great Lakes! ;D
Don't Forget Andrea Doria And The Empress! Then it will be ghost simulator. :D
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Don't Forget Andrea Doria And The Empress! Then it will be ghost simulator. :D
They never went on the Great Lakes, now did they?
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Hi Jumbo_nth & V Step,
Well have missed these posts and the gossip hehehe,
will say this will be a great ship for shipsim08 from the shipyard when it is ready.
Also say many thanks to Jumbo shipping for doing this and will also say V Step
another great job by you again.
Cheers Timbo :) :) :)
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That looks like a very nice ship and should make a great addition to the sim, this is the sort of thing that I''d like to see much more of.
Well done to all concerned from the initial idea, permissions and development through to the implimentation of this ship in to the sim.
It's nice to see shipping companies being so enthusiastic and involved in sharing their data with shipsimulator.
pigdog
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Is there any word when this ship will be released? I am really looking forward to seeing it! Thanks!
Best Reagrds,
Galen
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Jumbo shipping has made the link to download jumbo ship simulator.
Go to http://www.jumboshipping.nl/shipsimulator/ and fill in the paper to get an email within the link.
Gr,
eggy1991
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Jumbo shipping has made the link to download jumbo ship simulator.
Go to http://www.jumboshipping.nl/shipsimulator/ and fill in the paper to get an email within the link.
Gr,
eggy1991
That is ONLY If you are going to soon be working for Jumbo shipping. As mart said, They dont need all those cabin boys.
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Jumbo shipping has made the link to download jumbo ship simulator.
Go to http://www.jumboshipping.nl/shipsimulator/ and fill in the paper to get an email within the link.
Gr,
eggy1991
The link doesn't work for me..
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The link doesn't work for me..
Works fine for me
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I want too download it but I can't before I come home and I believe that won't be soon
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Works fine for me
Isnt that for only people who are working for Jumbo Shipping? Should i try it?
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Works fine for me
What code did you enter at the bottom of the download form?
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"SHIPSIMULATOR" there was
This is not a valid code, it's too long
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OK, have it now!
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On the subject of towing the pontoon:
We are testing missions that involve towing the pontoon with B2—which can be done successfully, with some pain.
There is also a mission where the VT is loaded directly from the dock, without using the pontoon.
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I filled out the questions..and Jumbo Ship sent the link..however, the link does not work? Any ideas?
Thanks,
Galen
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same thing with me they sent the link i filled out the bogus info (except the email) and it says page cannot be found :-[ after i click the link
i knew it was too good to be true :D
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On the subject of towing the pontoon:
We are testing missions that involve towing the pontoon with B2—which can be done successfully, with some pain.
There is also a mission where the VT is loaded directly from the dock, without using the pontoon.
MVSmith,
I have went to the site, and tired to download, but the link page is faulty. Is there anyway to get this vessel? Maybe a zip file or something. I would love to sail her, since I have seen these types of ships while out to see. Please feel free to contact me here or off line via pm. Thanks
Best Regards,
Galen
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I think Jumboship have seen this topic and removed the download link. They don't want you to have it for free when they can make money out of it in the shipyard ;)
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I think Jumboship have seen this topic and removed the download link. They don't want you to have it for free when they can make money out of it in the shipyard ;)
I would gladly pay for it! I enjoy new vessels and missions!! ;D If they are not going to release it, I would like to know. I see some folks have it, and if it is "freeware", I would like to possibly get a zip file, and try it out ;)
Thanks for the response.....maybe somwone can clue us in!
Best Regards,
Galen
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MVSmith,
I have went to the site, and tired to download, but the link page is faulty. Is there anyway to get this vessel? Maybe a zip file or something. I would love to sail her, since I have seen these types of ships while out to see. Please feel free to contact me here or off line via pm. Thanks
Best Regards,
Galen
The way to get her, along with missions for her, is to wait until she is offered in the shipyard. That package is still in beta test.
Most likely the reason that link is dead is that the dynamics for JJ are still being finalized and what you would have got would not have been satisfactory. She might have scared off any legitimate officers applying to sail her.
Another possibility is that you have confused Jumbo with Dumbo; they can see that your “applications†are obviously bogus.
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Does it work to you??
when i save the file on my desktop i cant open it. it says that there is a file missing.
Gr,
eggy1991
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Does it work to you??
when i save the file on my desktop i cant open it. it says that there is a file missing.
Gr,
eggy1991
same problem ???
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same problem ???
The link works and the download works too, the only thing is when you try to unzip the file you get an error message saying it's not a valid zip file!!
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This looks a jumbo ship in san fransisco.
Maybe i can tell you more tomorrrow ;D
Wow! How have you got the Jumbo? :o ???
Jack.
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Read above Jack ;)
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This looks a jumbo ship in san fransisco.
Maybe i can tell you more tomorrrow ;D
Eggy
Did you manage to unzip the file? I sent an email to Jumboship about it and got no reply>>>>
Mike
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Eggy
Did you manage to unzip the file? I sent an email to Jumboship about it and got no reply>>>>
Mike
Like I and mvsmith said above, Jumboship probably aren't that "thick"......
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I downloaded the file and installed it and it worked perfect!
BTW, u need winrar to unzip it.
Just search for winrar on google and download it, it is free.
Here are some pictures I toulk from the Jumbo Javelin Simulator.
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download again, zip file working
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Is it free? :P
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Now i'm not sure what to do, Download or wait for it to be in SS?
Jack.
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Now i'm not sure what to do, Download or wait for it to be in SS?
Jack.
And I dont think Vstep would be so happy about this, don't you think?
maritiem
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And I dont think Vstep would be so happy about this, don't you think?
maritiem
What, about him asking a question? I think you were meant to quote Sams post...
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What, about him asking a question? I think you were meant to quote Sams post...
No, I am just saying something. not blaiming him. :)
maritiem
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I have to ask, are we going to be charged for this ship? I'm not bothered by paying £3 for something like this, but I find it odd the way you can get it for free right now. Is this going to be a nice surprise for everyone I wonder?!
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And I dont think Vstep would be so happy about this, don't you think?
maritiem
I dont think it's a big deal, the true SS fans will buy it anyway because in SS you have more extra missions, free roaming, multi player enz enz. I also read on the German forum that they are still tweaking it, so the SS version might be better :)
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The link worked for me now im downloading it right now
hopefully it doesn't have any viruses with it ;)
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The link worked for me now im downloading it right now
hopefully it doesn't have any viruses with it ;)
I bet itl say its not a Valid .zip file like it did to me.
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firestar12, can you explain then why it works on my pc? Just look at the previous page and read my last post.
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firestar12, can you explain then why it works on my pc? Just look at the previous page and read my last post.
Well, Idk. I dont know why it wont work. EDIT OH WINRAR. THANK YOU. I HOPE THIS WORKS. Oh, And is it a seperate game? Or does it go into the SS08 and NH?
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it is a separate game with two missions in the rotterdam enviroment.
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it is a separate game with two missions in the rotterdam enviroment.
Does It have Open Sea? And what about Free roam.
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Yes free-roam. Has Rotterdam and the north sea. Includes 2 missions.
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It works! Need a real workable server on MP with Jumbo & other SS ships (but without Furie & Elbe ::) ), so it'll be possible to sail on it there! ;D
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Here is an interesting shot of Fairpartner passing the Maaslantkering, which you can compare to the developers’ version in the Rotterdam environment.
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I dont think it's a big deal, the true SS fans will buy it anyway because in SS you have more extra missions, free roaming, multi player enz enz. I also read on the German forum that they are still tweaking it, so the SS version might be better :)
You are correct, Ballast: The CMMs are testing the mission now, and Luc and others are adjusting the dynamics. The VSTEP version will have many more missions, and the ship should perform quite differently. It will also be supported on this forum.
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Really amazing ship. Nice texturing and accurate bridge. Very very funny play with her
Thank you vstep
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Well, good ship & very detailed. Just of curiosity, will be there any other deck cargo to transport?
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A very good point, Mike,
Given the delight among the juveniles in sinking ships and displaying their handiwork, Jumbo has a very specific reason for not allowing their Javelin to be copied into SS 2008: They do not want to see something like this on YouTube:
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A very good point, Mike,
Given the delight among the juveniles in sinking ships and displaying their handiwork, Jumbo has a very specific reason for not allowing their Javelin to be copied into SS 2008: They do not want to see something like this on YouTube:
Hehe. If you even remember what happened to the one of their ships in 2007 - Jumbo Challenger....
So-called "Operation: Jumbo Drop" :D
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Hello gentlemen,
Certain posts regarding illegal use of content have been removed.
It's not allowed to use it in this way, and the ones who have come forward with it, might have to accept the consequenses now. Anyone else who takes that path will face that too.
I trust all involved understand why I removed their posts.
Thanks!
Regards,
Fred
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Hehe. If you even remember what happened to the one of their ships in 2007 - Jumbo Challenger....
So-called "Operation: Jumbo Drop" :D
What happened to the Challenger? I was on the bridge of the PoR when we were in radio contact with them in Hull, that;s the only reason i know that name.
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What happened to the Challenger? I was on the bridge of the PoR when we were in radio contact with them in Hull, that;s the only reason i know that name.
Go there: http://www.cargolaw.com/2007nightmare_jumbo_challe.html
By the way, it's a great site about the ship accidents.
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What happened to the Challenger? I was on the bridge of the PoR when we were in radio contact with them in Hull, that;s the only reason i know that name.
Another site ;)
http://www.piersystem.com/go/doc/834/145146/
;)
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Go there: http://www.cargolaw.com/2007nightmare_jumbo_challe.html
By the way, it's a great site about the ship accidents.
'Great' and 'ship accidents' don't go very well together in one sentence :'(
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Ok, "it's a site about ship accidents" then :P
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A little picture of the Jumbo from me :)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/2wn1k0j.jpg)
EDIT: Another one of the bridge ;)
(http://i38.tinypic.com/2f0evbt.jpg)
(Jumbo Simulator)
Jack
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so wait...i can't get the game unless i want a job on the real thing? dang it. i'm too young to go out to sea. or is that just a joke?
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Hello to All the Moderators..
Let me get this right so I do not violate any rules.
1. If we recieved the "Jumbo Javelin" from Jumbo Ships, can we post pictures?
2. What content can we post about it? ie; pictures, remarks, etc..
I must say.. if I did get it...I would say "WOW..great work guys!" And I promise you..I will be paying for the "Jumbo" when it comes out in the "Shipyard"!
I just hope you will create a geared bulker of the 500-600 foot range with that kind of detail. Just a regular everyday ship!
Thanks to All!!
Best Regards,
Galen
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Hello to All the Moderators..
Let me get this right so I do not violate any rules.
1. If we recieved the "Jumbo Javelin" from Jumbo Ships, can we post pictures?
2. What content can we post about it? ie; pictures, remarks, etc..
I must say.. if I did get it...I would say "WOW..great work guys!" And I promise you..I will be paying for the "Jumbo" when it comes out in the "Shipyard"!
I just hope you will create a geared bulker of the 500-600 foot range with that kind of detail. Just a regular everyday ship!
Thanks to All!!
Best Regards,
Galen
Hi.
I don't see any problems with posting pictures or comments.
But, in the event that anyone gives hints, tips, advice on adding it to Ship Simulator, the post will be deleted and the poster will almost certainly be banned.
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You are not supposed to get it in the first place unless you are honestly interested in applying for a job with Jumbo Shipping. Doing so might compromise the relationship between VSTEP and Jumbo Shipping and make any further arrangements to model their ships impossible. This could affect the willingness of other shipping companies to cooperate with VSTEP.
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You are not supposed to get it in the first place unless you are honestly interested in applying for a job with Jumbo Shipping. Doing so might compromise the relationship between VSTEP and Jumbo Shipping and make any further arrangements to model their ships impossible. This could affect the willingness of other shipping companies to cooperate with VSTEP.
I gave "Jumbo Shipping" my actual info. I have a US 3rd Mates ticket unlimited, as well as a Panama Offshore Masters... I currently hold a job ashore.. I just do not want to post anything which would upset the forum... I really enjoy the game as well as the discussions here.. And I am a BIG supporter of "payware"... Lets get some "detailed" Bulkers!! ;D You guys let me know.
Best Regards,
Galen
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Were you seriously considering leaving the Lakes for the Netherlands? Did you disclose to Jumbo that you were A SS 2008 user and that you intended to use their free Javelin in that simulator? I don’t think it was Jumbo’s intention to open the possibility that they would see videos of Javelin sinking on the Internet.
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Were you seriously considering leaving the Lakes for the Netherlands? Did you disclose to Jumbo that you were A SS 2008 user and that you intended to use their free Javelin in that simulator? I don’t think it was Jumbo’s intention to open the possibility that they would see videos of Javelin sinking on the Internet.
And the fact that seeing videoes of ships in Ship Simulator sinking could keep us from having as many ships as we could, I am now against the idea!
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Were you seriously considering leaving the Lakes for the Netherlands? Did you disclose to Jumbo that you were A SS 2008 user and that you intended to use their free Javelin in that simulator? I don’t think it was Jumbo’s intention to open the possibility that they would see videos of Javelin sinking on the Internet.
Those questions were not asked... And I have never posted anything negative here or on YouTube?? Where does that come from. As for employment... Well, I keep my doors open, and the "highest bidder" wins...even my wife knows that. At 42 yrs of age..I believe that my judgement is good, and my wife expects all.. As for leaving for the Netherlands...most sailors today sail under a "flag of convience". I lived in VA, NC, MI, and Italy, and never "homeported" out of anyone of those locations...
Ship Simulator is a fun thing for me..I have sailed most of the places "For Real" in this game... It is a great way to spend an evening at home.. I don't understand why all the negative comments... I have never had this here?
Best Regards,
Galen
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Can the file be re-posted? I don't care if it is innaccurate, I just like new things! ;D
And I mose certainly will NOT put videoes of her sinking on the internet! >:(
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What file are you talking about?
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What file are you talking about?
The Javelin Files i think....
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If anyone is complaining about the jumbo Javelin.
Here is a picture of the containership from ss2006 and the Jumbo Javelin.
You can see how much Vstep has improved!
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Hi.
I don't see any problems with posting pictures or comments.
But, in the event that anyone gives hints, tips, advice on adding it to Ship Simulator, the post will be deleted and the poster will almost certainly be banned.
Terry
Thank you for that, perhaps Mad_Fred will put my post back again now!!
Mike
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I think that they might wait until beta testing is complete.
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Just wait patiently, they will announce it when it's finished. If they set a release date but have to delay it for a reason, people start to screaming again that Vstep isnt doing what they promised and the world is going to end blablabla.
It's in our own benefit that they put all the extra time in it ;D
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Since everyone else is ignoring my posts of complaint, and people are already using the Jumbo Simulator as a kind of "demo", i may as well try it out.......
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It seems a great pity to me that so many folks have no patience. When Jumbo Javelin is issued on the Shipyard she will be worth a bit of patience. Why upset a serious shipping company with silly requests when very soon there will be no need to do this? As has been said, I should think that Jumbo Shipping will be getting very incensed about this sort of thing which could, in the extreme, end up with a refusal to let Vstep issue Jumbo Javelin at all. Please have some sense and let this lie, I've said it before and I will repeat it again here. PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE which is sadly lacking in many people.
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It seems a great pity to me that so many folks have no patience. When Jumbo Javelin is issued on the Shipyard she will be worth a bit of patience. Why upset a serious shipping company with silly requests when very soon there will be no need to do this? As has been said, I should think that Jumbo Shipping will be getting very incensed about this sort of thing which could, in the extreme, end up with a refusal to let Vstep issue Jumbo Javelin at all. Please have some sense and let this lie, I've said it before and I will repeat it again here. PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE which is sadly lacking in many people.
ALL and agree with you Traddles,
This is mainly to Jumbo Shipping please don't let stupid people who download
the link as a demo put you off,as they know it's for vacancies for your company and your workforce think read somewhere.
We all want better ships for shipsim we don't want to put anybody off,as this is the BEST shipsim you can get anywhere!,we all thank the Jumbo Company for there time and money spent.
For V Step,
Just thought of this as to the post about sinking the Jumbo ship on youtube,never liked the sinking bit myself but that's another story.Anyway my point is this if jumbo wants they ship in the ship yard they could make it so you could not sink it,think that would solve the problem as you could understand why a shipping company would not like it very much.Also there might be other shipping companies who would like to give they workforce something like this as a xmas present or something like this.
Will say again thank you Jumbo Shipping for paying for the work involved in making this ship for shipsim.
Cheers Timbo :) :) :) :) This is my nickname!,Tim :-)
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Hi Timbo,
Good post. Jumbo did, indeed, ask that Javelin not be subject to damage, and VSTEP complied with that request. It is not possible to damage Javelin in the simulator.
However, it is possible—easy, in fact—to sink a ship without inflicting damage. That, I’m sure, will be corrected before Javelin is made available on the Shipyard. But it is the reason for concern that the “free†Javelin might be used in SS 2008 without the protection against sinking.
As has just been demonstrated, there are a few irresponsible people who delight in doing such things, and lack the judgment to know what they should not do.
Regards,
Marty
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I'm a little bit puzzled because of the two mentioned simulators, so pls. let me ask:
Will VSTEPs overhauled "Javelin" for Ship Sim 2008 suffer visible damage and will it sink after inflicting damage?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of the "sink-fetishists", but it would be quite astonishing if there would be made an exception for the "Javelin".
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I'm a little bit puzzled because of the two mentioned simulators, so pls. let me ask:
Will VSTEPs overhauled "Javelin" for Ship Sim 2008 suffer visible damage and will it sink after inflicting damage?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of the "sink-fetishists", but it would be quite astonishing if there would be made an exception for the "Javelin".
I'm sure that mvsmith is saying the ship has been disabled from damage in both simulators, to save any embarrasment.
Think how P&O felt when they saw this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ayL-wu-Do8
Or how Red Funnel felt when they saw this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQAg12Tu-_I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7S-FQsXeZY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ascy_9lALU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jyOw5dxeRg
I bet they wish they'd never agreed into SS2008 ;)
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I'm a little bit puzzled because of the two mentioned simulators, so pls. let me ask:
Will VSTEPs overhauled "Javelin" for Ship Sim 2008 suffer visible damage and will it sink after inflicting damage?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of the "sink-fetishists", but it would be quite astonishing if there would be made an exception for the "Javelin".
Why do think it is an exception? ;)
I've had Freedom 90 run down by Ocean Star and pushed 20 foot under water, then crushed against Latitude and finally leaping over ski ramps into cliffs at 50kts. No damage whatsoever.
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Hi Penguin,
I thought I made it clear in my last post: Javelin can not suffer damage. I am sure she will be fixed so that she cannot be sunk. I doubt that Jumbo will allow her to be in SS 2008 if people can post videos of her sinking.
I do not know what the situation is in Jumbo’s “free†package because I have never seen it. I assume that Javelin cannot be damaged there. Sinking is not an issue because there is no mission editor in that package.
For any who have not studied mission creation: There are two ways a ship is caused to sink. If she suffers damage below the water line, she will sink.
A ship can be sunk in a mission via a trigger_sink invisible “waypointâ€. This neither requires nor causes damage. By that I mean that she goes down without registering damage on the HUD or in mission statistic. It is possible to watch her go all the way until her mast head is under—if the depth permits.
I do not yet know how the developers will prevent sinking Javelin without removing that capability from all ships.
I would think that, having set this precedent with Jumbo Shipping, any future permission from other shipping companies would also require the same restrictions.
Regards,
Marty
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I would not call it an “exceptionâ€; that would imply that VSTEP had a policy requiring that a ship must be able to be damaged or sunk before it could be included. That is clearly nonsense.
As Terry pointed out, many ships are invulnerable because of their function. Atlas, for instance, can actually sail through some quays.
If you are somehow dismayed by this precedent, you can thank the irresponsible idiots who have insisted on sinking ships in public. They are apparently incapable of understanding the possible reaction to their productions by ship owners. One might think that they are dumber than a box of rocks.
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I thought I made it clear in my last post (...)
No reason to become impatient, Marty, pls. remember Traddles' comment in post #315:
"PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE". ;)
Thx for your info, mates! :)
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Maybe we should try removing videoes of ship sinking off of Youtube?
Also:
Naughty, naughty, mvsmith; you double posted! ;D
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Naughty, naughty, mvsmith; you double posted! ;D
No he didn't.
There was a post inbetwen to which Marty was responsing. But having seen the error of his ways, the poster removed that post.
If only all erroneous posters would have the courage to do that, eh?
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Why can't people just wait!
To be honest if their actions lead to shipping companies withdrawing ships or refusing permissions to allow ships to be added to shipsimulator in the future then ban them NOW!.
As for people posting videos of ships sinking in shipsimulator on youtube which is most certainly a worry for shipping companies, surley this falls within copyright laws if not from shipsimulator or VSTEP who own the rights to the sim then the shipping companies themselves and the use of their logo by bringing it in to dissrepute or showing it in a bad light.
Now I'm no copyright expert but I know that there aren't that many loopholes in copyrighting material of any kind be it audio or visual so maybe someone with copyright knowledge can shed some light on this.
My advice, just wait till it comes out for the sim and avoid the risk of upsetting a shipping company.
THINK PEOPLE THINK!
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Why can't people just wait!
To be honest if their actions lead to shipping companies withdrawing ships or refusing permissions to allow ships to be added to shipsimulator in the future then ban them NOW!.
As for people posting videos of ships sinking in shipsimulator on youtube which is most certainly a worry for shipping companies, surley this falls within copyright laws if not from shipsimulator or VSTEP who own the rights to the sim then the shipping companies themselves and the use of their logo by bringing it in to dissrepute or showing it in a bad light.
Now I'm no copyright expert but I know that there aren't that many loopholes in copyrighting material of any kind be it audio or visual so maybe someone with copyright knowledge can shed some light on this.
My advice, just wait till it comes out for the sim and avoid the risk of upsetting a shipping company.
THINK PEOPLE THINK!
just one comment if vstep didnt want us to sink ships to have companies remove there ships from vstep (dont allow us to use them) then why would they even put the ability to sink
think man think
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just one comment if vstep didnt want us to sink ships to have companies remove there ships from vstep (dont allow us to use them) then why would they even put the ability to sink
think man think
Because they naïvely thought that the users would act responsibly, despite overwhelming evidence on the forum that a large percentage of the vocal minority are too immature to do so.
Sinking is something that happens in the real world—much more often than most people realize—and, in the interest of realism, and for the purpose of certain missions, that capability is included in the simulator. Why should the majority of responsible users be penalized for the actions of a few idiots?
My own feeling is that VSTEP should act more aggressively in banning those who abuse that facility, and take legal action, where possible, against those who publish their efforts on the Internet.
Failing that, the responsible members of the forum should impose social sanctions against those who jeopardize their enjoyment of the simulator.
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Because they naïvely thought that the users would act responsibly, despite overwhelming evidence on the forum that a large percentage of the vocal minority are too immature to do so.
Sinking is something that happens in the real world—much more often than most people realize—and, in the interest of realism, and for the purpose of certain missions, that capability is included in the simulator. Why should the majority of responsible users be penalized for the actions of a few idiots?
My own feeling is that VSTEP should act more aggressively in banning those who abuse that facility, and take legal action, where possible, against those who publish their efforts on the Internet.
Failing that, the responsible members of the forum should impose social sanctions against those who jeopardize their enjoyment of the simulator.
i agree with u 2 its just that from what i understood its like even if u accidently sink your banned
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That is not the case. If you are talking about what happens in Multi-play, some rammings are unavoidable accidents due to “lagâ€. Deliberate attempts to ram, of course, should be punished.
Otherwise, I don’t understand what you mean by “accidentally sinkâ€. You can certainly sink in a mission if you accidentally hit something and sustain damage below the waterline, but that does not happen in public view.
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The purpose of the simulator is to move your ship around without getting damaged as it is in real life, otherwise any idiot could go out and captain a supertanker, the difference here in the sim is we do have idiots that sail around with the intent of sinking themselves and others in the process, if you are one of these idiots then you are probably too stupid to realise that posting your video showing a real life shipping company's vessel either in distress or sinking or not being used for it's intended purpose on the internet via youtube or any other medium outside of shipsimulator, is wrong and could lead to shipping companies taking action against you and VSTEP therefore ruining the the chance of them ever granting permission for their ships or logo's to be used again, this will also put other shipping companies off allowing models of their ships in to the sim.
What happens in the simulator including multiplayer is not on view to anyone outside of the game, so only those who have paid for the game can witness ships sinking, the minute it goes outside of this bubble I'm pretty sure that is not what the shipping companies intended when they gave permission for their vessels to be used, most shipping companies especially those who carry passengers don't even allow their crews to be seen drinking alcohol in a public place wearing any company uniform or logo even when off duty and they definitely don't like their employees posting videos of their ships or the goings on onboard their ships when crew are on or off duty, so i guess they won't be overjoyed with seeing the pride of their fleet doing flips, sinking and ramming other ships do you?
Think Idiots think!
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Come on chaps.
I can understand the level of frustration, but let's keep it civil, please.
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Some How it does'nt work on mine and mine is Windows Vista why won't it work????
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What is it that “does not work� What, exactly do you mean?
If you want answers to your questions, you should learn how to ask them in such a way that others can understand them. You must also ask them in the correct place.
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It says i dont have an up to date version of ship simulator 2008 i bought it not long since
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This question should be in Technical Support or General discussion, really.
But you need version 1.4.2 installed. Build 1038.
If you have any further questions, please start a new topic in the appropriate area.
See the Posting Guidelines for further information.
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