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The Ferry King

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Re: Titanic II
« Reply #125 on: May 04, 2013, 10:33:53 »

Nah, save money first, safety second.  ;D

SO: 1) Efficiency first (save lots of money),
2) add a few bits to keep passengers mildly safe,

I have seen that nearly everywhere,
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danny

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« Reply #126 on: May 04, 2013, 14:15:59 »

For example, the front of the ship has slightly more flare, perhaps in part due to the safety deck, but what the added hull height (from the Safety Deck) and additional flare do for Titanic II is make her more capable of slicing through rogue waves.

The flare won't be of much use if you hit a rogue wave, you're still going to end up with half of the wave sitting on the foc'sle until the scuppers get rid of it. Really, if you're slicing through waves you want very little, if any flare.

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There are also measures being taken to make her less likely to suffer major damage in ship-ship collisions.
Have they printed "Please don't hit us! We're an ocean liner!" On the side?
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RMS Gigantic

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Re: Titanic II
« Reply #127 on: May 04, 2013, 19:16:02 »

The flare won't be of much use if you hit a rogue wave, you're still going to end up with half of the wave sitting on the foc'sle until the scuppers get rid of it. Really, if you're slicing through waves you want very little, if any flare.
To quote the company's sales director directly, "Rogue waves are carefully considered in the design. We have a good understanding of the North Atlantic wave conditions as we have e.g. all the data collected by QE2 of all her voyages. But first of all the hull of Titanic II will be higher (additional safety deck) and seakeeping characteristics will be carefully studied, simulated and tested. Modern flare will be applied even though the stem will be as per the original design."
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danny

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Re: Titanic II
« Reply #128 on: May 04, 2013, 19:19:22 »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS-KZXiV8DQ <- And that's with the QE2's high prow, and flare...
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RMS Gigantic

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Re: Titanic II
« Reply #129 on: May 07, 2013, 13:11:22 »

It looks like the Titanic II has her crewing agency: http://bluestarline.com.au/2013/05/6228/
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clanky

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« Reply #130 on: May 07, 2013, 13:33:32 »

It looks like the Titanic II has her crewing agency: http://bluestarline.com.au/2013/05/6228/

V. Ships leisure will do more than supply crew, they will technically manage the ship as well, so they will ensure that she is operated within budget, they will provide spare parts, organise ports facilities, provide deck and engine crew (and probably hotel crew as well, but that may be done by a specialist hotel management company), basically they will operate the ship in every respect but selling tickets.

Other services such as onboard entertainment, hair and beauty salon and photography are likely to be outsourced to other separate companies.
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RMS Gigantic

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« Reply #131 on: May 07, 2013, 13:44:31 »

Ah, thanks ;D I'm very unfamiliar with the term "ship management services," so I appreciate that clarification :2thumbs:
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RMS Gigantic

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« Reply #132 on: May 09, 2013, 07:12:32 »

Pardon the double post, but there's been an update on this crew business: according to Clive Palmer, there's already been a flood of applications for working aboard the ship, including 8 people willing to be captain, including cruise ship captains and supertanker captains ;D

Interestingly, Professor Palmer also said that Titanic II crew members would be paid a similar wage to other cruise ship crews, but the jobs on Titanic II would come with unique perks (first class 20-course meals, cabin accommodations comparable if not superior to those of the passengers, old fashion takes on jobs such as chef or activities director, etc.).
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hansgutana

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Re: Titanic II
« Reply #133 on: May 17, 2013, 11:59:02 »



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RMS Gigantic

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« Reply #134 on: July 18, 2013, 12:51:42 »

There's been an update on the Titanic II front: it turns out Lloyd's Register has been appointed to assist with the Titanic II project as well. This company didn't register Titanic, but they made a note of her in their list of ships that year. It looks like Lloyd's Register has a marine office in Liverpool, so there's a pretty good chance that this partnership could mean Titanic II will have Liverpool as her port of registry!

Source: http://bluestarline.com.au/2013/07/6248/
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The Ferry Man

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« Reply #135 on: July 18, 2013, 14:31:59 »

What I don;t get is why they need azipods?  ???
A lot of modern cruise ships still use ye olde time propellers...  :doh:

RMS Gigantic

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« Reply #136 on: July 18, 2013, 15:49:01 »

I imagine it's for maneuverability and subsequently, to some degree, safety.
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The Ferry Man

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« Reply #137 on: July 18, 2013, 17:49:08 »

I imagine it's for maneuverability and subsequently, to some degree, safety.

but, as I said, most modern cruise ships still DON'T have them

Azure (2010) doesn't...
AIDALuna (2009) doesn't...


So why does Titanic 2 have them?

saltydog

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« Reply #138 on: July 18, 2013, 18:03:06 »

The Costa Concordia didn't have them.
With azipods she may have been able to avert or minimize the damage..
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Rbsanford

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« Reply #139 on: July 18, 2013, 19:43:54 »

I think Titanic II would feel much more authentic with screws (and steam engines!). I've never been on an azipod-powered vessel, but I'm guessing with pods there is less noise and vibration, therefore screws would give a more vintage sailing experience for a remake of a 1912 ocean liner.
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RMS Gigantic

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« Reply #140 on: July 18, 2013, 20:24:44 »

I think Titanic II would feel much more authentic with screws (and steam engines!). I've never been on an azipod-powered vessel, but I'm guessing with pods there is less noise and vibration, therefore screws would give a more vintage sailing experience for a remake of a 1912 ocean liner.
They've redesigned the ship since the website design was relevant: the stern of Titanic II should now much more closely match the original shape, meaning that passengers won't be able to tell the difference unless they know what's under the hood (er, waterline). It should also be noted that Titanic II has 3 azimuth thrusters instead of an even number which is more typical of modern ships.

Also, I am sure that it is to allow the ship to leave harbors on her own, by being able to move sideways without needing cargo tugs.
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gregoriy

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Re: Titanic II
« Reply #141 on: July 20, 2013, 05:56:18 »

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Sith Lord

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« Reply #142 on: July 20, 2013, 12:34:02 »

All of P&O's fleet have propelers and stern thrusters but some require tugs for saftey reasons. :doh:
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Jake_Savage

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Re: Titanic II
« Reply #143 on: July 20, 2013, 12:38:02 »

I don't disagree with him making a cruise but why titanic? Can't he just let everyone who perished rest in peace?

Come up with your own idea you lazy sod!!!!!
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Mad_Fred

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« Reply #144 on: July 20, 2013, 16:34:01 »

He might be a lot of things, but he's not a lazy sod with all that he's done and achieved, I would at least say.

And since when is the use of a well-known icon to make some money something out of the ordinary, anyway?  ::)

Well besides that.. please mind the attitude a wee bit, it's not nice to throw insults around like that.  ;)


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Jake_Savage

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« Reply #145 on: July 20, 2013, 16:48:09 »

Im not disagreeing with you Fred its fine to use historic icons but not ones where so many people died. Surely it would be more respective of their peace and their families to make a new cruise boat. if hes a billionaire surely he could make a ship to compete with Oasis of the seas in size and fame, especially since that hasnt sunk.
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VirtualSkipper

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« Reply #146 on: July 20, 2013, 17:42:49 »

Also, I am sure that it is to allow the ship to leave harbors on her own, by being able to move sideways without needing cargo tugs.

Lol, just because it is TITANIC? THE MIGHTY UNSINKABLE TITANIC? Nope, indeed there are safety reasons which is mandatory for any ship depending on the length. I believe there was such a rule for long ships which would visit Rotterdam but I can't find it anywhere right now.

Also, people know you're a big fan of Titanic but please leave your own opinions about it outside reality...  ;)
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Mad_Fred

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Re: Titanic II
« Reply #147 on: July 20, 2013, 19:10:50 »

Im not disagreeing with you Fred its fine to use historic icons but not ones where so many people died. Surely it would be more respective of their peace and their families to make a new cruise boat. if hes a billionaire surely he could make a ship to compete with Oasis of the seas in size and fame, especially since that hasnt sunk.

So many people died? Compared to what? World War One? World War Two? Any other war, Other more costly shipwrecks or disasters? Titanic is by no means a high death toll event compared to the much worse events in our history.

Have you not seen that there's tons of things that we have made into commerce, from anything well-known in the past, everywhere all the time?

War movies, disaster movies making millions at the box office, museums full of things to do with death and suffering in the past, theme parks with rides or attractions based on some such things, heck any idea how many people visit mount rushmore every year and pay lots and lots of money to get into the park, to buy souvenirs.. and that's basically, partially a 'monument' to the destruction of a whole people, the native North Americans, if you really think about it.

Remember, it's not REALLY the titanic that they are building. Now if they would somehow make an underwater-dome theme-park on the seabottom right on the actual wrecksite and thus gravesite, then I would fully agree with you. But this is just a brand-new lookalike boat, not really even connected to the deceased. And their relatives have accepted their demise by now, I can pretty much guarantee you that. After all the papers, books, documentaries, movies and what not over the last hundred years, they won't really be too upset about people taking rides on a floating museum/hotel.  ;)
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Jake_Savage

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« Reply #148 on: July 20, 2013, 19:57:01 »

I still Respect that Fred (and I think it's great we can debate the matter) but I stick by my guns. And about your point of WW2 no one would recreate that or the Concordia so why this?

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ci

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« Reply #149 on: July 20, 2013, 20:41:47 »

I still Respect that Fred (and I think it's great we can debate the matter) but I stick by my guns. And about your point of WW2 no one would recreate that or the Concordia so why this?



Hi Jake i don`t normally get involved in these topics and post every now and then. but i do agree with Mad Fred what he has said. The amount of money made out of WW1 and WW2 and the Titanic only goes to show the world moves on and people accept it ( yes upsetting to some ) but thats life the way it is. Why do you think he is making the Titanic II just to make money , how long that will last we will see. And yes you are entitled to your own opinion on this ( and i respect that )  that is your right but remember we all have different ones as well. As for the Costa Concordia i wouldn't be surprised if a movie wasn`t  in the making already if not it will happen because thats the way life is am afraid.

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