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English forum => Small talk => Topic started by: Pride of Dover on January 23, 2010, 10:43:54
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Hi guys, what do you think P&O should call their Newbuilds? the First is almost ready for launch and is ment to be in service by september 2010. I think that they should be named after their predecesors. That is what P&O Did with the Pride of Kent and the Canterbury. I think they should be named Pride Of Dover(2) and Pride Of Calais(2). It would only be reasonalble to name a ferry after its local surrounding towns and cities like P&O have for Decades. Here are some Pictures of the NB1, that is what P&O staff call it at the moment.
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Hi guys, what do you think P&O should call their Newbuilds? the First is almost ready for launch and is ment to be in service by september 2010. I think that they should be named after their predecesors. That is what P&O Did with the Pride of Kent and the Canterbury. I think they should be named Pride Of Dover(2) and Pride Of Calais(2). It would only be reasonalble to name a ferry after its local surrounding towns and cities like P&O have for Decades. Here are some Pictures of the NB1, that is what P&O staff call it at the moment.
where will it go to
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Calais, there both replacing the Pride of Dover and Pride of Calais in September! What a shame, to have two great ships taken out of service in the month of my birthday.
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I think they should be called either:
"UGLY 1" and "UGLY 2"
Or alternatively
"P&Os part exchange on a new build replacement for the Pride of Bilbao"
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Pride of Dover/Calais (2)
As they are replacing the originals, I can't see them being anything but
Nice pics by the way - where did you find them?
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I doubt P&O's target in constructing these newbuilds was to make them look pretty :doh:
Just as well
I think they should call them Pride of Dover and Pride of Calais, just like the older succesful ships...
Agreed
And here's a very interesting render....(Seafrance Rodin/Pride of Rotterdam mixed into one, anyone?)
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3659/ponewbuild.png) (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/ponewbuild.png/)
Weird... Perhaps though we will see them being called Le Pride de Douvres et Le Pride de Calais...
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Keep ordering ships??? No offence Nathan, but I think that is about as likely as finding intelligent life in the tate modern
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Urgh, Give me the original PRIDE OF DOVER and PRIDE OF CALAIS any time.
I remember when they first entered service, they were criticised for their looks.......20 years on and their replacements are even worse looking.
I dread to imagine what newbuildings will look like in 20 year's time! :doh:
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(http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/PODover2003/PODover01-PO-off.jpg)
NOW, that's a real good-looking ship ;) :2thumbs:
(acknowledgement: url from the Simplon Postcards website)
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I dread to imagine what newbuildings will look like in 20 year's time! :doh:
Newbuilds in 20 years time??? ??? Optimistic...
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Newbuilds in 20 years time??? ??? Optimistic...
if what I want to be comes true, there better well had be... :-\
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if what I want to be comes true, there better well had be... :-\
What do you want to be? Lets hope it is "Master of 'Pride of Bilbao 2' " :)
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And here's a very interesting render....(Seafrance Rodin/Pride of Rotterdam mixed into one, anyone?)
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3659/ponewbuild.png) (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/ponewbuild.png/)
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thats the whole piont of them, modern cross channel ferries based on the Seafrance rodin and the PoR.
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And here's a very interesting render....(Seafrance Rodin/Pride of Rotterdam mixed into one, anyone?)
(http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3659/ponewbuild.png) (http://img46.imageshack.us/i/ponewbuild.png/)
thats the whole piont of them, modern cross channel ferries based on the Seafrance rodin and the PoR.
And a hint of the Ulysees with the car ramps - there is a ramp either side in the bow
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To say that it is based on the 2 seachance sister vessels is a bit like saying every car is a copy of a ford mondeo.
all designers are going to come to the same conclusions from the same results of the same tests, but if you mean that pee and ooh have set out to copy seachance deliberately, I don't think so/
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no, it has an ramp on the stern like the D-class maersk trio and one before the "catflap" door on the upper deck like on the maersk trio. In short run, they are designed with every successful design from the cross channel ferry market build in.
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no, it has an ramp on the stern like the D-class maersk trio and one before the "catflap" door on the upper deck like on the maersk trio. In short run, they are designed with every successful design from the cross channel ferry market build in.
trust me she has a ramp either side of the 'catflap'
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Are you looking at a real ship or that artists impression?
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Perhaps the newbuilds will be called “Pride of Dubai†& “Pride of Abu Dhabiâ€.
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Are you looking at a real ship or that artists impression?
I have seen a different picture which does show a twin ramp to the upper deck (one either side of the Main Deck Door)
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Perhaps the newbuilds will be called “Pride of Dubai†& “Pride of Abu Dhabiâ€.
Marty, I was going to put a >:( at that... but it might be misinterpreted as being at you, not PO... So instead I will be sarcastic
how about Pride of Goingbroke and Pride of RelistedasaproperPLC
>:( Poor old P&O...
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Hi Stu,
Isn’t Goingbroke in Wales?
I don’t know if you remember the big flap here in the US when Dubai Ports bought P&O.
P&O operated large terminals in many of the ports here. There was paranoia over “turning over our ports to Arabs†and, presumably, opening the doors for terrorists to bring in nukes.
Better to leave our ports in the hands of the ILU and The Mob.
DP decided it was the better part of valor to sell the US operations to others.
Regards,
Marty
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Hi Stu,
Isn’t Goingbroke in Wales?
;D
Yes, the DWP problem in America was well publicised here... I thought it a bit odd, since Dubai was about the most western friendly of the Emirates. And also that it would most likely continue to employ largely the same personnel- ie Americans...
That said, the countries around the world mocking America for this stance didn't have a fleet of 767s flown at their key buildings- but that really is a topic we don't want to reopen here...
Beer anyone? ;D
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now that u think bout it, the 3D artists impresion looks a lot like the official one used by P&O and STX europe. maybe they are the Same? They should have taken in my design for the new ferries. I asked them but they havnt said anyfin so I take it there not goin to use it.
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what about naming them after animals?
Pride of Whale and Pride of Pig
Or how about famous figures?
Pride of Obama, Pride of Ghandi
Or how about
Dunpowerboatin'
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Does it really matter WHAT people call them... As they sail past them on their Seachance or LD lines or NorfolkLine ship, whilst they are tied up awaiting someone to prop PO up?
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I would call them something like
Dover Highway
and
Calais Highway
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did anyone see my ship in the issue 5 of SSM?
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Yes, would it perhaps be better to show Molly in LD Lines colours or even Brittany Ferries?
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Well im working on 2 more for the next issue of SSM, the operators would kill for these.
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Lets hop they don't actually 'kill' anyone... that is messy
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Lets hop they don't actually 'kill' anyone... that is messy
And illegal... :police:
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And illegal... :police:
Don't worry- just borrow the Governments Attorney General... If he says it is illegal, just keep asking him until he changes his mind... ;)
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You almost always have it like this way: You have a route Rotterdam - Hull and it has 2 ferry named Pride Of Rotterdam and Pride of Hull.
So what I'm trying say is that a route between 2 ports with 2 ships will be named after the ports name (pride of *name of port*).
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You mean like 'Pride of Bruges' (inland) or Pride of 'Pride of Canterbury' (inland)! ;)
But, yes you are right. PO do tend to name the route flagships after the two main ports on its routes.... Except at Portsmouth where they don't have enough ships... until October anyway, when ALL of their ports on the western channel will have one of their western channel ships named after them...
BTW, if it isn't too far off topic. (and this is serious rather than me again taking the urine out of PO and its urine-poor management)... DO PO actually OWN any ships now or are they all on hire purchase?
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I think you'll find the PoH is also owned by a seperate company.
Nathan, without wishing to contradict you, I am interested to know what source you are quoting for Dover based ships, as that is not my understanding. I understand that only the Dover/Calais 'Chunnel Beaters' were purchased outright (and possibly since subject to a sell/leaseback deal...
No, to say that if PO owned both outright that it would automatically mean both were British crews, is not correct. The country of registration, country of (nominal ownership) do not need to be the same as the (non senior) crew.
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Why not copy the RNLI? Their FCB2 Concept boat (now rejected :doh:) was called EffSeeBeeToo ( ::))
DeeSeeEyeTeeEssEee!
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How about LD Dover and LD Calais- get the names ready for when LD take over PO ;D
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thats if LD take over P&O which won't happen cos P&O are a very large company dont forget and LD only have a 6 ship fleet where as P&O have around 276 ships in total, so thats very unlikely unless LD have £4 million to buy the company. Back to the topic, the ships dont have ramps on the out side of the catflap door look at the pic.
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With all respect, POD
LD lines is only a subsidiary of Louis Dreyfuss Shipping- a pretty hefty company, so I don't quite know where you get '6' from....
Do you wish me to list the number of times a small company has performed a 'reverse takeover' of a larger rival?
As for £4 million- what has that to do with it? £4 million for PO? That would unlikely cover the legal costs of the sale!
I am interested to know where you get the figure of 276 ship in PO. Really interested, in fact...
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Oh, i forgot bout it being a subsidary. I got the number from the "P&O: the fleet book" that I got on the Pride of Dover, that was the recorded number for 1999. that number has proboly grown. the six was from Norman Arrow, Norman Spirit, Norman Voyager, the soon to be Norman leader and Sorreto
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P&O grown? ??? I think not.
P&O ferries is no longer the same as P&O cruises and P&O Princess.... so knock those ships out. PO Portsmouth/Le Havre have gone. Several of the Irish sea freighters have been sold to Stena. P&O Scotland has gone. Do they now not operate less ships on Dover straits? Their freighter/tanker joint venture has been sold off.
NEED I say any more about it? P&O is finished now. It is just a waiting game; I think they will be floated off seperately from the ports business and then they willl need to find a merger-partner as they are too flimsy to survive. POD, business is a jungle at the moment and the weak will not survive.
I really hate to say it, as I was very loyal to P&O before, but they've lost it big style.
I very much doubt you could list all of these alleged 276 ships!
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P&O expanding with more ships? Vs not being as big as before.
Please make up your mind, Nathan...
Perhaps you are right and P&O are doing really well... Time will tell.
I notice you aren't making any references to how badly P&O did in Portsmouth...
Believe me, I do not like talking down P&O. I would like nothing more than a powerful, competent CEO to takeover the board and build P&O back up. But it isn't going to happen.
Guess what? P&O is still listed as a private limited company. Even though it is foreign owned, it is still registered in Britain at companies house (237626)- you can download their latest accounts (I take it you do know about this...). Buy it (£5) and read... Then tell me P&O is getting stronger.
You are right that they are the best known ferry company in Britain. However, trading on inertia is what kills off most old dinosaur companies in the end. Sad, but true.
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moving on. I have managed to aquire more pics of the NB1. very interesting, especially the one with the trailor lift( ???). :2thumbs:
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moving on. I have managed to aquire more pics of the NB1. very interesting, especially the one with the trailor lift( ???). :2thumbs:
Great Pics
I think it is a internal ramp, to connect the two lorry decks.
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The name on this new ship most be
Pride of NathanC :2thumbs:
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it may be the ramp, but im sure it is a lift of some sort to a trailor deck out the way of the main car/freight decks. If you think about it from the pictures, these ships are gona be rather big.
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Dover-Calais isn;t really a unaccompanied trailer route - to short with too quick turnaround time
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they do take some trailors tho, ive seen them plenty of time, they go on fist after unloading at the same time as the foot passengers do. You think that in SSE there will be realistic crossing time or the crossing taking 50 mins?
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they do take some trailors tho, ive seen them plenty of time, they go on fist after unloading at the same time as the foot passengers do. You think that in SSE there will be realistic crossing time or the crossing taking 50 mins?
Not enough to demand an extra deck ;)
As for SSE, well I suppose it depends what boat you take ;)
But it should still take the right time, depending what route you take
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not an extra deck, side decks like where all of the foot passengers luggage goes and the animals. dont forget these new ships have two freight decks and one car deck like the Maersk trio
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There is a similar lift (RAMP!) on the seachance Molly... Although that was designed to allow 2 decks to be used from a single deck link span on its original route.
I don't think it leads off to some hidden deck somewhere in doctorwhos tardis...
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Hello everyone, bit late to the party but I have only just recently purchased Ship Sim and registered on here. Ive wanted to find some pictures of the new builds for a while so this thread is a great find! :thumbs:
In relation to the namings, I agree with others in that they should keep the names of their predecessors. No need to come up with new names unless P&O were retaining the older ships. Loving the artist impressions too, remind me a lot of the Pride of Hull/Rotterdam.
Slightly off topic, I recently read in Ships Monthly that P&O have put plans to replace the Pride of Brugge/York on hold, does anyone know what 'plans' they were?
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they were originally to replace the two along with the Pride of Burgundy( only god knows why). But they arn't now they arn't going to replace them due to their new ships being built for dover-calais and the sucess they are getting out of the new Tilbury-Zeebrugge route. If you like to know any more or for more pics feel free to ask :2thumbs:
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they were originally to replace the two along with the Pride of Burgundy( only god knows why). But they arn't now they arn't going to replace them due to their new ships being built for dover-calais and the sucess they are getting out of the new Tilbury-Zeebrugge route. If you like to know any more or for more pics feel free to ask :2thumbs:
Thank you for the quick reply, makes sense the Pride of Brugge/York are not exactly falling apart! I still remember sailing on them back when they were the Norsun and Norsky (I think), just gives me more time to take a trip on them!
Looking forward to seeing more pictures of the new builds! :thumbs:
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By the way, when you say "several" of the Irish sea freighters have been sold to Stena, which do you mean? All I know of is the old European Ambassador, and P&O still operate her two sisters between Northern Ireland and Scotland (and so the Scottish business has not gone, it was less than a decade ago since new tonnage was ordered for the Larne-Cairnryan route, and P&O still have another freighter operating between Larne-Troon). The Leader/Pioneer/Seafarer were sold off to Stena, but that is a very small route anyway, which I can't see lasting very long with the age and capacity of the ships. The Norbank and Norbay were sent to Liverpool for the run to Dublin.
Before Stena Line carved up the 'P&O Empire' in 2004, P&O were a serious force on the Irish Sea.
Larne - Troon, Larne - Cairnryan, Larne Fleetwood, Dublin - Liverpool, Dublin - Mostryn, Dublin - Cherbourg, Rosslare - Cherbourg. Pretty mighty.
o) Troon still operates with the European Mariner
o) Cairnryan still has the European Highlander & Causeway
o) Fleetwood was sold off to Stena Line - vessels included
o) Liverpool services are shockingly declining fast, as Norfolkline offer superior passenger services and SeaTruck offer better freight services.
o) Mostryn again sold off to Stena and closed - vessels included
o) Cherbourg services again sold off to Stena and Celtic Link - vessels included.
The only beam of light appears to be Larne, as they own it.
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yeah, but P&O are only making their big cash from Dover-Calais and every route north of there.
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I'd certainly say Larne - Cairnryan would be worth its weight in gold too
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yeah, but P&O are only making their big cash from Dover-Calais and every route north of there.
IF PO have learned the lessions taught from them losing so much elsewhere, and IF the current management are prepared to say "we can't fail- we are P&O" and hope that their long history is enough and IF they can be dynamic and proactive then perhaps they can hold onto Dover - Calais (even in the same environment!)
However, the likes of Stena, LD et al are running rings around them.
Put another way- you want to start a shipping company. Who do you think would be the easiest to compete with? (and that isn't the same thing as who has the nicest livery or cheaper fares)... You go against the sick man of the industry (just read Mr LaganVikings excellent post above)
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Oh, and as for the question above about the Burgundy...
... My opinion is that it would make either a very nice artificial diving reef or 50,000,000 new razor blades...
(scuse the double post)
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If i were to start a ferry company i would have routes from Dover-Zeebrugge, Dover-Ostende and Dover-Le harve. That way I offer a great service from dover to zeebrugge again and to ostende too and also to le harve with a fast cruise ferry like tallinks Superstar.
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Hopefully you would paint her a better colour...
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I would be competeing with an failing seafrance and maybe buy the molly for the Dover-le harve service? :thumbs:
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Do you think-maybe- you would be also taking trade away from P&O? Obviously you aren't daft enough to think that you will be 'generating new trade'- you will be taking trade away from elsewhere.
So what do you think po ld sc would do about it?
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If you were going to start new ferry services to France...Portsmouth would be a good starting block.
Remember the success P&O had there? Portsmouth - Cherbourg could be a good starting block, but as Celtic Link have shown twice now, there isn't much of a market for it - well not with their Diplomat anyway :doh: (primarily freight orientated)
(just read Mr LaganVikings excellent post above)
8) :D
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Sorry LV- but when you consider the time to cross the western channel, the cost per round trip of a ferry is pretty high- compared to dc(itse) which could do 2 or 3 in the same time (easily). That is why your earlier post was quite good about DC(itse) making money.
Also there are the services from Poole (recently reduced, but still there in a sort).
The real killer for ferry services is the lack of tourist trade- when there is a good mix of tourist AND freight, you're on to a winner... Blame the likes of simplejet and ryanscare for that...
Can we see any improvement in the western channel in the near future? Hmm... Not so sure.
My company was part of a small group that were looking at entering the HSC market, like speed ferries did- but the numbers just can not stack up. It needs one of the big companies to go bust or 2 merging... And then when conditions improve and the timing is right- then go in to take advantage of the rising market.
However, for an established player in any specific market, there is a problem in that costs rise when times are good without any thought for when they are bad... result? over-bloated companies with proportionally too high fixed overheads... so they become oblivious to overhead/revenue ratio and forget that building new products/services means they can further divide their overheads. In short that irritating phrase "economies of scale".
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ok thanks for that stu, anyways got more PICTURES FOR EVERYONE FRESH FROM 5 DAYS AGO!
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Wow great pics - she is really coming along
Thanks for sharing them all :thumbs:
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glad to share them with the ship sim community
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Keep them safe... To compare against the photos circa 2035 when they are at Alang (NO, not sarcasm...!)
When are they releasing the names?
I still think either LD Douvres & LD Calais or Seachance Douvres & Seachance Calais or something...
I wonder what they will look like in Brittany Ferries livery... ;D
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I wonder what they will look like in Brittany Ferries livery... ;D
There are two answers.
Daft?
or
Awesome?
The hard bit is deciding which...
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I suspect we will find out in the next 2 years.
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Apparently Dover has been bought by France... :-X
What happens now then? :thumbdown:
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i get to buy duty free stuff and then dover will rebel due to the population not wanting to be A FRENCHMAN!
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anyway, LD lines are chatering the norman spirit to TEF for ramsgate to ostende and renamed the ostende spirit. LD are chatrering the to be renamed Ave Leipaja (ex Brave Merchant) for the current Dover route. Now there will be two racehorses operating from Dover!
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Apparently Dover has been bought by France... :-X
What happens now then? :thumbdown:
Officially- nothing...
Unofficially, the admin offices will be moved to Calais, and English workers will be made redundant. Proper border checks will take place in Douvres- to help stop illegal immigration into Britain, of course... (for the uneducated, once you are in British lands you can claim asylum...)
When AT ferries were racing the PO Bilbao to Bilbao, the spanish port gave priority to the Spanish Fortuny... So can we look forward to SeaChance being given priority over the nominally English POs at Douvres?
Wow! As an area that pioneered short range RoRos, Douvres hasn't done too well... You have a choice of French or Arabic ferries, blying Bahamian flags, with the hold full of Swedish Scania/Volvo trucks, car decks full of Renault, BMW, SAAB etc..." and run between The Franco-German republic of Europe and the Communist satellite known as Britain (or Brian- easier for thick people to spell)...
WHY do immagrants WANT to come here??? MAD PEOPLE.
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I have just heard that the name of new vessels to replace PRIDE OF DOVER and PRIDE OF CALAIS has been announced.
Are you all sitting down?
The new names are........OLYMPIC SPIRIT and OLYMPIC PRIDE.
It sound like a late April's Fool but sadly it is not >:(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8605609.stm
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For God's sake just name them both DC(ITSE) and be done with it.
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I have just heard that the name of new vessels to replace PRIDE OF DOVER and PRIDE OF CALAIS has been announced.
Are you all sitting down?
The new names are........OLYMPIC SPIRIT and OLYMPIC PRIDE.
It sound like a late April's Fool but sadly it is not >:(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8605609.stm
it about a gold medallist not a ship
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it about a gold medallist not a ship
Actually, if you read carefully, you will see it is about a gold medallist dedicating a ship.
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Epic fail CC ::)
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The new names are........OLYMPIC SPIRIT and OLYMPIC PRIDE.
Sound like something you would have down in the med operating for Minoan Lines etc. Maybe its a gradual rollout of new branding...
- Olympic Rotterdam/Hull?
- Olympic Norsky?
- Olympic Causeway/Highlander?
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- Olympic Rotterdam/Hull?
- Olympic Norsky?
- Olympic Causeway/Highlander?
- Olympic Titanic
- Olympic Britannic
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Maybe P&O has been secretly taken over by White Star Line :doh:
Cruises from Dover to New York onboard the Olympic Spirit. Olympic Spirit sounds like some sort of cocktail :lol:
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lol guys, I think it's a cynical attempt by the P&O Ferries to cash in on the 2012 Olympics, which is taking place in London.
Anyone willing to bet these ferries would be given new names in 2013? ::)
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how about the Unemployed?
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I have just heard that the name of new vessels to replace PRIDE OF DOVER and PRIDE OF CALAIS has been announced.
Are you all sitting down?
The new names are........OLYMPIC SPIRIT and OLYMPIC PRIDE.
It sound like a late April's Fool but sadly it is not >:(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8605609.stm
I doubt that they will be called olimpic spirit and Olimpic Pride, it doesnt fit into the Naming of P&O ships, but, i do know that when the new ships are in service, the old Dover and calais may run to zeebrugge with the European Endevour.
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I doubt that they will be called olimpic spirit and Olimpic Pride, it doesnt fit into the Naming of P&O ships, but, i do know that when the new ships are in service, the old Dover and calais may run to zeebrugge with the European Endevour.
Was there not talk of the Endeavour going Bolonge?
Zeebrugger has probably came about as a result of LDs partnership with trans whatever-its-called running to Oostende.
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I doubt that they will be called olimpic spirit and Olimpic Pride, it doesnt fit into the Naming of P&O ships, but, i do know that when the new ships are in service, the old Dover and calais may run to zeebrugge with the European Endevour.
Please read the BBC news again. It has already been decided that OLYMPIC SPIRIT and OLYMPIC PRIDE has been chosen for the new ferries. I agree with you, it certainly don't fit with the naming policy of P&O ferries. But it has already been done.
Also here's the press release on the official P&O website about the naming of the new ferries: P&O Ferries named (http://www.poferries.com/tourist/content/pages/template/_footer_About_about_P&O_Ferries_press_releases_PR_-_Dame_Kelly_to_name_record_beating_Dover_to_Calais_ferry.htm) (click on link)
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trouble is that they will need permission to use the name 'Olympic' fomr the IOC...
(assumng they haven't got permisision)
Of course by the time the second one is in service the Olympics will be over...
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Errm, TFM, got your own olympics?
"Olympic Spirit in January 2011."
"A sister ship, the Olympic Pride, will be unveiled in the autumn of 2011."
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No but apparently the IOC (I... Olympic Comittee) is touchy about people using the word 'Olympic'...
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But what does that have to do with what I'm saying?
Of course by the time the second one is in service the Olympics will be over...
Errm, TFM, got your own olympics?
"Olympic Spirit in January 2011."
"A sister ship, the Olympic Pride, will be unveiled in the autumn of 2011."
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No but apparently the IOC (I... Olympic Comittee) is touchy about people using the word 'Olympic'...
You could be right, a South African airline recently got into trouble with the FIFA for using images associated with the World Cup on their planes ::)
Mind you, I wouldn't be too gutted if the IOC stepped in.......if P&O Ferries had to drop the 'Olympic' prefix, I think DOVER SPIRIT and CALAIS PRIDE might be more appropriate.
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Sorry I missed that...
OK apperntly I can't count...
I thought it was Autumn 2012 :doh: :doh: :doh:
Getting confused in my old age...
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I did hear that they would be renamed Pride of Dover/Calais after the Olympic games..
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I did hear that they would be renamed Pride of Dover/Calais after the Olympic games..
I hope so, Nathan.
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Ferry giant P&O renames ships using the word Olympic
A cross-Channel ferry operator has had to change the names for its two new ships after being warned they could be breaking the law.
P&O Ferries had been planning to name the two ships Olympic Spirit and Olympic Pride.
But the operator was told using the word Olympic could be an infringement of rights under English law.
So they will now be called Spirit of Britain and Spirit of France.
The boats are currently being built at a shipyard in Finland at a cost of more than £330million, and are due to enter service next year.
Olympic gold medallist Dame Kelly Holmes will become godmother to the first of the new ships.
At 213 metres long and 49,000 tonnes, the two giant ferries will be the largest ships ever to operate between Dover and Calais.
Each will have a carrying capacity of 180 articulated lorries plus a further 200 cars and 1,750 passengers.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonline/news/2010/may/5/ferry_giant_renames_ships.aspx
Really cheap names :thumbdown:
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Ferry giant P&O renames ships using the word Olympic
A cross-Channel ferry operator has had to change the names for its two new ships after being warned they could be breaking the law.
P&O Ferries had been planning to name the two ships Olympic Spirit and Olympic Pride.
But the operator was told using the word Olympic could be an infringement of rights under English law.
So they will now be called Spirit of Britain and Spirit of France.
SURPRISE SURPRISE!!!! ::)
Just what I predicted last month. The IOC folks are very touchy ::)
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What is wrong with Pride of Dover/Calais? These new names are really really boring in my opinion. Seems like they had a board meeting and chose the first names they came up with :thumbdown:
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I hear the next one will be the Pride of Dubai.
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:lol: :thumbs:
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Don't know what you are :thumbs: ing for, I am thinking that you might have to change your user name to TOR LAGANIA soon! :P
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Don't know what you are :thumbs: ing for, I am thinking that you might have to change your user name to TOR LAGANIA soon! :P
:D
Too true...
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Don't know what you are :thumbs: ing for, I am thinking that you might have to change your user name to TOR LAGANIA soon! :P
Haha :lol:
Be interesting thought to see what colour the Mersey Viking emerges in. TOR DUBLINIA just got everything blacked out.
TOR LAGANIA should be arriving in Belfast in an hour or two...cant decide if i should go and get a few shots of her seeing as i've discovered my pc has a card reader! :doh:
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I understand they are considering Pride of Arabia I and II
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Haha :lol:
Be interesting thought to see what colour the Mersey Viking emerges in. TOR DUBLINIA just got everything blacked out.
TOR LAGANIA should be arriving in Belfast in an hour or two...cant decide if i should go and get a few shots of her seeing as i've discovered my pc has a card reader! :doh:
Sounds like a good idea to me ;D
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What is wrong with Pride of Dover/Calais? These new names are really really boring in my opinion. Seems like they had a board meeting and chose the first names they came up with :thumbdown:
Good thing they didn't let me pick them. Then they would have ended up being called Bob and Dave!
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unfortunatly, there not gona be called any of those names, instead, they are going to be named Olympic Spirit and Olympic Pride.
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unfortunatly, there not gona be called any of those names, instead, they are going to be named Olympic Spirit and Olympic Pride.
No they are not ;)
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sorry, my bad, looks like there gona be renamed yet again, i dont see as to why they just call them Pride of Dover(2) and Pride of Calais(2) like they have done in the past with other ships and keeping their "Pride of" prefix.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8662703.stm
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because that would be too easy
personally I like Spirit of Dover and Spirit of Calais if they have to use different names...
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i agree with you there ferryman, if they say its the start of a new generation of superferries like there successers were, then that would be a good change of name. Maybe the Caterbury,Kent,Burgundy and the Seaways replacements would start their names with "Spirit of........."
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How about Dover Viking :doh:
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Spirit Of The Princess Margaret? ;D
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Spirit of Late SSE :evil:
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Spirit Of The Princess Margaret? ;D
i don't think P&O would name one of there ships after the competition...
even if they are stored in a museum
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Isn't she dead anyway? ???
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Isn't she dead anyway? ???
Blasphemey!!!
(http://media.shipspotting.com/uploads/thumbs/rw/814571_800/Ship+Photo+The+Princess+Margaret.jpg)
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No the real princess marge?
Its to do with the English monarchy so naturally i haven't a clue :thumbs:
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No The Princess Margaret was a SR.N4 Super 4 Hovercraft
Princess Margaret is a Royalty person...
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I knew that ;)
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Excellent
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English royaly confuses me, so I generally tend to avoid it completely :angel:
Its like me asking you lot who former first minister (of Northern Ireland) Ian Paisley's son is :doh:
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No the real princess marge?
Its to do with the English monarchy so naturally i haven't a clue :thumbs:
The Royal Princess Margaret died in 2002, according to Wikipedia.
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here are some more pics of the Sprirt of Britain.
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At least thay are not calling them anything with Dover in the name. There are far too many bloody Dovers down there already, port of Dover, Maersk Dover, Pride of Dover, radio must be a nightmare.
Dover, this is Dover, just approaching Dover, over.
Watch out for the Dover, just leaving Dover, over.
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Spirit of Britain is out on the sea now
and with great joy fo her first visit to Dover
and Calais!!!!!
THIS TOPIC IS ALREADY MENTIONED
5 times... i searched it.
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sorry, my bad, looks like there gona be renamed yet again, i dont see as to why they just call them Pride of Dover(2) and Pride of Calais(2) like they have done in the past with other ships and keeping their "Pride of" prefix.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8662703.stm
What was the name of the last ship named by Dame Kelly Holmes?
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What was the name of the last ship named by Dame Kelly Holmes?
It was going to be OLYMPIC SPIRIT and OLYMPIC PRIDE, but the word 'Olympic' would fall foul of infringement rights under the English law, so P&O had to change the name.
OLYMPIC SPIRIT became SPIRIT OF BRITAIN, and OLYMPIC SPIRIT became SPIRIT OF FRANCE.
I have to say that I hated the original name, so I was very pleased that the 2012 London Organising Committee had forced P&O to change the new ferries' name. :2thumbs:
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*cough
Spirit of Britain and Spirit of France
*cough
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*cough
Spirit of Britain and Spirit of France
*cough
lol, cheers for that :doh: - I'm still hungover after Spain's win last night :2thumbs:
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It was going to be OLYMPIC SPIRIT and OLYMPIC PRIDE, but the word 'Olympic' would fall foul of infringement rights under the English law, so P&O had to change the name.
OLYMPIC SPIRIT became SPIRIT OF BRITAIN, and OLYMPIC SPIRIT became SPIRIT OF FRANCE.
I have to say that I hated the original name, so I was very pleased that the 2012 London Organising Committee had forced P&O to change the new ferries' name. :2thumbs:
Wrong, it was the Arcadia of P&O Cruises.
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woohoo i found a ugly ship
its the Pride of America!!!!!!
(Norwegian cruise lines) The last pic shows why..
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Not as ugly as this one!
http://www.solentwaters.co.uk/JAlbumnews/Recentnews/slides/norwegianepic.html
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Wrong, it was the Arcadia of P&O Cruises.
Just as well it was not a question for £1m on 'Who Wants to be a Millionaire' ;)
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Not as ugly as this one!
http://www.solentwaters.co.uk/JAlbumnews/Recentnews/slides/norwegianepic.html
i know why....