Topic: Project: "Iron Flounder" - Trailing Suction Dredger (Read 61234 times)

J3nsen · « **Reply #100 on:** August 28, 2008, 22:34:04 »

Nice details!

Aad The Pirate · « **Reply #101 on:** August 28, 2008, 22:36:50 »

Ahoy llamalord,
Smoothy, smoothy, like a good cold pint on a hot summersday.
Regards
Aad

llamalord · « **Reply #102 on:** August 28, 2008, 22:45:52 »

Thanks for all of your nice comments guys, I'm going to start work on the Helm/pilot house now.

Minime · « **Reply #103 on:** August 28, 2008, 23:28:31 »

Quote from: llamalord on August 28, 2008, 22:45:52

Thanks for all of your nice comments guys, I'm going to start work on the Helm/pilot house now.

Nice, I'm looking forward to see some interior

Ballast · « **Reply #104 on:** August 29, 2008, 21:30:10 »

Looking good Llamalord!!

I also think it looks too short, but maybe that's because we are not used to see ships with this proportionals.

Look at this photo;

I don't know the English name for this type of vessel. It goes alongside dredgers and the dredger loads her with sand and water and then barge pumps the water out of the hold. If you look at the proportionals, it also looks bad with the "living area" and the "earning money area". But the "living area" also serve the purpose of buoyancy. Im having a hard time to write this down in English, so i hope you get my point.

Pls finish her, she looks great!

Maybe you want to change this though,

The connection for the dreding arms. At your renders its fitting directly to the hull. Most (maybe all?) trailing suction hoppers have it like on the pic, the dreding arm slides up and down.

llamalord · « **Reply #105 on:** August 29, 2008, 21:49:08 »

Is that like on a sliding rack that drops down to the fill hole because if so... ...That's Cool.

maritiem · « **Reply #106 on:** August 30, 2008, 15:33:05 »

great model work! very nice.hope to see some more other renders soon!

maritiem

Nathan|C · « **Reply #107 on:** August 30, 2008, 16:13:31 »

That looks really neat Llamalord, great work.

Can't wait for the release

dannyman1995 · « **Reply #108 on:** August 31, 2008, 13:24:27 »

im wuite jealous i wish i could make something that good

maritiem · « **Reply #109 on:** August 31, 2008, 17:57:41 »

Quote from: llamalord on August 29, 2008, 21:49:08

Is that like on a sliding rack that drops down to the fill hole because if so... ...That's Cool.

llamalord · « **Reply #110 on:** August 31, 2008, 19:42:11 »

As I said I've done tons of research so I don't think there is a diagram of a dredger on the internet that I haven't seen so, Yes I've seen that one, and Yes that is the one that I found the answer in.

Sam · « **Reply #111 on:** September 01, 2008, 20:28:13 »

Llamalord, I am not trying to insult you, but I only want to help you make your model better.

If you can show me one picture of the same size of ship wich is similar to that one, then you convinced me that your model is realistic.

But this just looks like a small dredger with big dredger equipment on it, and that isn't realistic.

Mostly, small dredgers have a bucket hoe.
Like this one: http://www.deme.be/equipment/Durme_GB.pdf
Some have a crane with a bucket.

But, there allso are small dredgers wich are more like a barge with a suction head.
Like these: http://www.damen.nl/PRODUCTS/CUTTER_SUCTION_DREDGERS.aspx?mId=8613
And these: http://www.damen.nl/PRODUCTS/PLAIN_SUCTION_DREDGERS.aspx?mId=8617

How long is your ship?

Well, I don't know a lot of dredgers, maybe someone else on the forum who works on a dredger can convince me.

Your modelling skills are great, I would never be able to do that good in gmax.
But I think your weeks of research weren't well spent.

llamalord · « **Reply #112 on:** September 02, 2008, 00:32:32 »

Well you sure have done a fine job of insulting my work and my intelligence.

Here is said dredger that is just as small as mine;

And here is another trailing suction dredger that is only a few feet longer than The Iron Flounder.

I completely agree that most small dredgers have large buckets or scoops but some dredgers that have to handle small areas with a greater rate of speed are trailing suction dredgers. I hope those pictures prove my point to all of you non-believers.

To settle everyones stomachs the Iron Flounder is ~112.76 Feet Long and ~31.65 Feet Wide. I've never lost my temper on this forum, or any other for that matter, and I'm not about to lose it now.

LucAtC · « **Reply #113 on:** September 02, 2008, 01:41:41 »

The Severn dredger (http://www.vesseltracker.com/en/Ships/Wd-Severn-7430931.html?show=photos) (IMO 7430931) seems to be 230ft long and has a beam of 46 ft.
But there are indeed dredgers of all kinds and sizes, as many as there are waterways having various bottoms, sand, gravel, mud, cars, anything.

Did you already know how much materials "Iron Flounder" will load? It is indeed at this stage of the design that you can best check the underwater volumes: unloaded, with the propellers just near to the surface, and loaded at maximum draught, water almost at the main deck. It is of course that volume that will define the kind of dredging work, and I am convinced there are more small dredgers than big ones.

Regards,
Luc

llamalord · « **Reply #114 on:** September 02, 2008, 02:49:43 »

Thanks for your support Luc, I need all I can get.

I have all the specifications of the Iron Flounder's Holding tanks on my computer but I'm on my Laptop now so I'll get the capacity to you guys later.

Timbo · « **Reply #115 on:** September 02, 2008, 11:26:14 »

Quote from: llamalord on September 02, 2008, 02:49:43

Thanks for your support Luc, I need all I can get.

I have all the specifications of the Iron Flounder's Holding tanks on my computer but I'm on my Laptop now so I'll get the capacity to you guys later.

Hi llamalord,
Your Iron Flounder is a great ship and think must go into the shipyard as a lot of people would like to put in into there game,
it would make some great missions as there is nothing like this in the game up to yet.

Keep up the good work and please vstep take note of this one. Cheers Timbo

edwinmorgan · « **Reply #116 on:** September 02, 2008, 11:30:56 »

its really cool lol

Aad The Pirate · « **Reply #117 on:** September 02, 2008, 12:43:56 »

Ahoy llamalord,
Can't agree MORE

, that is truly a masterpiece of work. Come on, VSTEP, give this guy the credit he diserves, put this model in the Shipyard a.s.a.p. and let the missionbuilders have a lot of fun too

.
Regards
Aad

TerryRussell · « **Reply #118 on:** September 02, 2008, 15:01:04 »

Hi Aad.

It is a fine model, to be sure.

But wait until you've done that beta testing on the Creators Forum. Then when you realise that is just a microscoping portion of the work involved, you'll understand why these things take so long or are sometimes to expensive to be a commercial proposition.

llamalord · « **Reply #119 on:** September 04, 2008, 02:56:54 »

There will be some new renders of the Dredging Arm Connections and the Helm and Pilot House Interiors hopefully coming soon.

Stay Tuned and I will keep you Posted.

Minime · « **Reply #120 on:** September 04, 2008, 13:12:13 »

Looking forward for that.

maritiem · « **Reply #121 on:** September 04, 2008, 15:10:36 »

Quote from: Minime on September 04, 2008, 13:12:13

Looking forward for that.

me to!

maritiem

llamalord · « **Reply #122 on:** September 04, 2008, 21:36:51 »

Glad to hear it, They're in the making.

Sam · « **Reply #123 on:** September 05, 2008, 16:56:12 »

Quote from: llamalord on September 02, 2008, 00:32:32

Well you sure have done a fine job of insulting my work and my intelligence.

Here is said dredger that is just as small as mine;

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And here is another trailing suction dredger that is only a few feet longer than The Iron Flounder.

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I completely agree that most small dredgers have large buckets or scoops but some dredgers that have to handle small areas with a greater rate of speed are trailing suction dredgers. I hope those pictures prove my point to all of you non-believers.

To settle everyones stomachs the Iron Flounder is ~112.76 Feet Long and ~31.65 Feet Wide. I've never lost my temper on this forum, or any other for that matter, and I'm not about to lose it now.

Your dredger looks great, but not like the ones on those pictures.
There are a 100 things different.

To me, it just looks like a large trailing suction hopper dredger where they toulk a 100m out.

Those ships on those pictures are very different!
I am talking about breadth, details, position of wheelhouse, shape of the hull.

I am sorry that I am doing this, but something on that model just doesn't feel right.

maritiem · « **Reply #124 on:** September 05, 2008, 18:37:58 »

Quote from: Sam on September 05, 2008, 16:56:12

Your dredger looks great, but not like the ones on those pictures.
There are a 100 things different.

To me, it just looks like a large trailing suction hopper dredger where they toulk a 100m out.

Those ships on those pictures are very different!
I am talking about breadth, details, position of wheelhouse, shape of the hull.

I am sorry that I am doing this, but something on that model just doesn't feel right.

it's a work in progress.and i think he knows what he is doeing.
like aadjepiraatje said: the real ship modelers has right to speak!

maritiem

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