Hello Guest November 24, 2024, 10:30:51 *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
 
Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: sever rope  (Read 3539 times)

naauriis

  • Forum member
  • Posts: 101
sever rope
« on: July 04, 2008, 18:38:08 »

in real life ships can sever the towing ropes and mooring ropes but when it will be available in ship simulator? This will bee closer to realistic life And also we need river-sea ship maybe you now old russian ship VOLGOBALT  and there is link where you can see it http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=598358
Logged
ships moddeler

llamalord

  • Forum member
  • Posts: 2590
Re: sever rope
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2008, 19:02:01 »

By sever do you mean just to cut them? :P
Logged
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"

(http://www.userbars.com)
www.llamalord

naauriis

  • Forum member
  • Posts: 101
Re: sever rope
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2008, 21:46:39 »

I mean when you moor and if you have big speed rope will sever and also when tug very fast go to the rope and rope sever
Logged
ships moddeler

Capt. Le Velle

  • Forum member
  • Posts: 664
Re: sever rope
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2008, 21:49:47 »

so like if you pull something to hard it will break
Logged

Pain is weakness leaving the body-Special Ops Instructors.
http://www.freewebs.com/shipsimusa/

llamalord

  • Forum member
  • Posts: 2590
Re: sever rope
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2008, 21:50:44 »

Oh I think I get it now... :-\
Logged
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"

(http://www.userbars.com)
www.llamalord

naauriis

  • Forum member
  • Posts: 101
Re: sever rope
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2008, 21:51:39 »

Yea I think so
Logged
ships moddeler

sonarman

  • Forum member
  • Posts: 222
Re: sever rope
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2008, 01:02:21 »

Yes, it definitely can happen in real life, and if you are caught in its path it can cut you in two.
Logged

Chris-S1

  • Forum member
  • Posts: 299
Re: sever rope
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2008, 01:09:14 »

Quote
Yes, it definitely can happen in real life, and if you are caught in its path it can cut you in two.

well acaly if u wach mithbusters this isnt true thay tryed it with a dead pig and thay allso tryed wier the worst u will get is some brokin bones and a deep cut :D

Chris S
Logged

Minime

  • Forum member
  • Posts: 2557
Re: sever rope
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2008, 01:53:26 »

But it is still possible whatever mithbusters say, not all the thinks they say it's right
Logged

thanks to Tore/TJK for this awesome sig

NathanC

  • Guest
Re: sever rope
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2008, 07:08:10 »

But it is still possible whatever mithbusters say, not all the thinks they say it's right

Yep, depends of Strength/size of ship
Logged

naauriis

  • Forum member
  • Posts: 101
Re: sever rope
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2008, 09:08:41 »

When I go on tug more times rope cut when we very fast go on this rope
Logged
ships moddeler

Traddles

  • Global Moderator
  • Posts: 5935
Re: sever rope
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2008, 15:30:23 »

ChrisS1,
If a wire towing rope breaks it CAN and WILL kill if you are in the way. Never mind what it says on Mythbusters (whatever that is). I know for a fact of someone who had both legs severed and bled to death before anything could be done to help. The lethal recoil of a wire hawser breaking under strain is almost unimaginable.
Logged
Retired, UK foreign going Masters Ticket.

pauljanaway1

  • Forum member
  • Posts: 1874
Re: sever rope
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2008, 15:44:18 »

no dount a rope will kill you i was towing a vermass once and the rope was getting longer when i started the rope was 60m and betime i let go it was allmost 500m
Logged
my collecton of ship sim pics
http://s292.photobucket.com/albums/mm9/pauljanaway1/

TerryRussell

  • Guest
Re: sever rope
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2008, 16:00:30 »

ChrisS1,
If a wire towing rope breaks it CAN and WILL kill if you are in the way. Never mind what it says on Mythbusters (whatever that is). I know for a fact of someone who had both legs severed and bled to death before anything could be done to help. The lethal recoil of a wire hawser breaking under strain is almost unimaginable.

ChrisS1,

Take a look at these links:
http://www.harbour-marine.com.au/news-articles/LNG-Journal2004.html

http://unols.org/publications/winch_wire_handbook__3rd_ed/12_useful_info.PDF

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nzbound/ow5sept1874.htm
(at the foot of the page, there is a report of a death from a rope hawser back in 1874)

I think you'll agree that these may be somewhat more authoritative than a cheaply-made TV program, eh?  ;)
Logged

pigdog

  • Forum member
  • Posts: 193
Re: sever rope
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2008, 18:42:38 »

Oh it will kill you!

I've seen a towing wire break and the bare end cut a slice in the steel accomodation of a tug, if that doesn't kill you then the shackle or link from the pennant will come back and cave your head in for you, not a nice way to go.

A polyprop, and or natural fibre rope can do just as much damage depending on the size of it and the strain it's under, it may not cut through steel but it will dent it and take your arms and legs off leading to death, no question about that.
Logged
[img width=585 height=150http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9431/panddax5.png]

Minime

  • Forum member
  • Posts: 2557
Re: sever rope
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2008, 21:38:03 »

Isn't there a new kind of rope, that just falls down if it breaks
Logged

thanks to Tore/TJK for this awesome sig

Chris-S1

  • Forum member
  • Posts: 299
Re: sever rope
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2008, 21:51:12 »

iv herd of that its a nilon base but i dont think it just falls its more like a spring so if ur holding it it vbrates a lot thats just what iv herd from a guy i no at the local regata

Chris S
Logged

Minime

  • Forum member
  • Posts: 2557
Re: sever rope
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2008, 21:52:52 »

I heard it something nano stuff, but I'm not sure
Logged

thanks to Tore/TJK for this awesome sig

llamalord

  • Forum member
  • Posts: 2590
Re: sever rope
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2008, 23:34:32 »

Personally, I still think this is a good idea. :-\
Logged
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"

(http://www.userbars.com)
www.llamalord

sonarman

  • Forum member
  • Posts: 222
Re: sever rope
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2008, 17:27:04 »

I have never seen one break, but once when our ship was in a storm we made for the port of Fishguard, they managed to get ropes ashore but the ship rolled so violently in the swell that the rope ripped the huge steel bits (bollards secured by 4 two inch diameter steel bolts) straight out of the deck and then  tore right through the steel railings along the ships side like matchsticks, the force acting on these ropes is sometimes incredible.

In another incident while canting ship (turning with ropes) in the River Clyde at Glasgow we used a small rope to keep the main turning force rope out of the ships paddle box, a friend of mine forgot to let go of the small rope as the tension on the large rope came on and was literally catapaulted out into the middle of the river, luckily he was a good swimmer and survived the incident intact.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2008, 17:32:30 by sonarman »
Logged

llamalord

  • Forum member
  • Posts: 2590
Re: sever rope
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2008, 17:28:58 »

I saw one that was broken after a bad storm on the lake that I boat on and the ship was swinging in the wind by one rope. ;D
Logged
"I reject your reality and substitute my own!"

(http://www.userbars.com)
www.llamalord
Pages: [1]   Go Up
 
 


SMF 2.0.14 | SMF © 2017, Simple Machines