Topic: WHERE IS PEIR 59?! (Read 6227 times)

RMS Gigantic · « **on:** June 11, 2008, 06:34:43 »

I've searched repeatedly, but thus far, I have found multiple possible locations for Peir 59 in New York Harbor! I am trying to see where the Titanic was supposed to dock!

And before some one goes stupid and thinks Peir 54 was where it was supposed ot arrive, or posts a picture of Peir 54 thinking it's Peir 59 (and you know someone will!), let me make this loud and clear:

TITANIC WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO DOCK AT PEIR 54!!!!! ALSO, PEIR 59 IS NO LONGER STANDING!

I have been looking for at least 2 days now, trying to find it! Sorry if I'm yelling too much, but I'm a bit frustrated because of it!

GENERAL LOCATION WILL NOT DO! I NEED SOMETHING ALLONG THE LINES OF LONGITUDE AND LATITUDE, OR A PICTURE WITH THE PEIR IDENTIFIED AND SOME SURROUNDING FETURES TO IDENTIFY THE LOCATION!

mvsmith · « **Reply #1 on:** June 11, 2008, 08:26:36 »

On the North River at the foot of 23rd Street. Get a NYC map. There is a small boat marina there now.
N 40 45.97
W 74 0.57

pauljanaway1 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 11, 2008, 09:20:49 »

piear 59 is still there is is now a driving range for golf

http://www.chelseapiers.com/gc01.htm

pauljanaway1 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 11, 2008, 09:23:10 »

if only they extened the new york on the game so we could dock at the real reir on the titanic mission as they send use compleaty in the wrong directoin on the misson

RMS Gigantic · « **Reply #4 on:** June 11, 2008, 11:02:36 »

Quote from: pauljanaway1 on June 11, 2008, 09:23:10

if only they extened the new york on the game so we could dock at the real reir on the titanic mission as they send use compleaty in the wrong directoin on the misson

That area IS in the game!

pauljanaway1 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 11, 2008, 12:20:04 »

googel it you will see that they turned it into a golf range that is why the golfe range is call pier 59 the addres is
Pier 59
23rd St. & the Hudson River
New York, NY 10011
212.336.6400

pauljanaway1 · « **Reply #6 on:** June 11, 2008, 13:39:13 »

ok i can claer this afer looking at may site

if you look pic a is a pic a of peir 59 from ths sky note the mairan next to it

now if you look a pic b taken from the frount showing peir 59 note the same mairan next to the peir

pic c from the website for the golf corce showing a map of the piers

mvsmith · « **Reply #7 on:** June 11, 2008, 15:07:17 »

Guys,
The whole Chelsea Piers area was completely rebuilt as a tourist and recreation site and the historic piers are not precisely in their original locations. If you try to dock Titanic there, you will find they are only half the length required.
I went to college across the river from that area, in Hoboken, and paid part of my tuition as a deckhand on a harbor tug.
Regards,
Marty

NathanC · « **Reply #8 on:** June 11, 2008, 15:07:37 »

I've already spent time searching maps of New York and i found Pier 59, but there is nothing in the game where the pier is meant to be - really should be there though, the P&O Terminal is in Rotterdam so why not the famous Pier

pauljanaway1 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 11, 2008, 15:10:19 »

from what i can make out it should be here

pauljanaway1 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 11, 2008, 15:26:11 »

maybe they can model it to look like it did in it's hayday (nudge, nudge)

mvsmith · « **Reply #11 on:** June 11, 2008, 15:31:56 »

This is approximately where Titanic would have berthed:

pauljanaway1 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 11, 2008, 16:33:32 »

if you look at the map pier 59 is the first pier not the 3rd you are docked at pier 61

pauljanaway1 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 11, 2008, 16:36:51 »

Quote from: mvsmith on June 11, 2008, 15:07:17

Guys,
The whole Chelsea Piers area was completely rebuilt as a tourist and recreation site and the historic piers are not precisely in their original locations. If you try to dock Titanic there, you will find they are only half the length required.
I went to college across the river from that area, in Hoboken, and paid part of my tuition as a deckhand on a harbor tug.
Regards,
Marty

they have proberly got shorter since being used by ships but i dount they have moved place

mvsmith · « **Reply #14 on:** June 11, 2008, 16:49:47 »

Both the Westside and the Eastside of Manhattan are very different today from what they were in 1912. Different, in fact from what they were in the 1950s, when I plied those waters.
When were you there, Paul?

pauljanaway1 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 11, 2008, 16:56:39 »

i have never been there

pauljanaway1 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 11, 2008, 17:01:38 »

ok hear is the piers before being turned into o golf corce and here is them after they have not moved

TerryRussell · « **Reply #17 on:** June 11, 2008, 18:45:00 »

Hi Pauljanaway.

Interesting thread. Determining where Pier 59 is, that's most interesting. As you'll be aware, Marty is probably the ultimate authority, being a New Jersey lad and living and working within feet of the pier. Anything he says is pure gold as a source of information.

One thing, could you do me a favour and use the edit button to add further comments a few minutes later, instead of making lots of short posts?

I know that there is a competitive streak between some of you to have huge post counts, but I really don't want to start my moderator career by having to tell anyone off if they overstep the mark. I know that you're aware of the Forum rules about accetable behaviour here, but for anyone else who isn't, please read them at http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,26.0.html

Thanks!

pauljanaway1 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 11, 2008, 19:23:01 »

when did you become a mod dident notes it yesterday

RMS Gigantic · « **Reply #19 on:** June 11, 2008, 20:37:49 »

I thought it would have berthed in a north/south manner, and there is a "Peir 59 Studios" that apears to be in the location 3 docks north of where mvsmith berthed that seemed perfect for that....

Then again, looking at how the Lusitania docked before its last departure, that wouldn't be the case....

pauljanaway1 · « **Reply #20 on:** June 11, 2008, 20:39:49 »

well that is where the map says pier 59 is as my pic of titanic
ok if you kook at the pic with the titanic on it you will see the just ahead of the titanic on the right the docke extents where the building should be as shown in the real pic also on the far left you will see the road and land extents towords the water again shown in the real pic

RMS Gigantic · « **Reply #21 on:** June 11, 2008, 20:57:55 »

Quote from: pauljanaway1 on June 11, 2008, 20:39:49

well that is where the map says pier 59 is as my pic of titanic
ok if you kook at the pic with the titanic on it you will see the just ahead of the titanic on the right the docke extents where the building should be as shown in the real pic also on the far left you will see the road and land extents towords the water again shown in the real pic

I know, it's just there seem to be so many possibilities for the location.

Are you sure that pic has the 1912 location?

pauljanaway1 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 11, 2008, 21:07:32 »

well that is a pic of peir 59 as it stoud before 1990 when it was turned into a golf range so it sould be the right location

RMS Gigantic · « **Reply #23 on:** June 11, 2008, 21:09:14 »

Quote from: mvsmith on June 11, 2008, 15:07:17

Guys,
The whole Chelsea Piers area was completely rebuilt as a tourist and recreation site and the historic piers are not precisely in their original locations. If you try to dock Titanic there, you will find they are only half the length required.
I went to college across the river from that area, in Hoboken, and paid part of my tuition as a deckhand on a harbor tug.
Regards,
Marty

What about them not being in their original locations?

pauljanaway1 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 11, 2008, 21:11:10 »

i dont beleave they have moved they are solid concreat and dont have legs

you can cheak out the wickapida page showing peir 59 is a golf range

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Piers

ok do you beleave where or not the piers have moved that peir 59 is now a golf range

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