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Author Topic: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam  (Read 12859 times)

mporter

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2007, 17:57:18 »

Hello Michael,
Nice tug, indeed and also with flanking rudder! Thanks for the pdf... .
Also, I like the design of the Kotug with 3 Schottel azimuthing propellers, of whom I dont attach a picture, to avoid angering sam simmer who doesnt like the magic beauty of the Kotug.
But I found an short presentation of the development; from this, I can infer that a mathematical model giving realistic results is not straightforward, to say the least.
http://www.rotortug.com/downloads/its_paper_2000.pdf
And they give a bollard pull of 75t with only 6400hp.  ::)
Regards,
Luc

Hello Luc,

It is now officially summer, but it look more like fall -- brisk NW winds and possibility of showers :(

You are quite right about the rotor tugs -- beautiful and versatile beasts.  Take a look also at:
http://www.seabulktowing.com/sdmtech.html (http://www.seabulktowing.com/sdmtech.html)

Many towing specifications in the US (Navy, LPG, etc) now call for tractor tugs of some type, whether Schottel or Voith-Schneider cycloidal, and these do give impressive mobility and bollard-pull.  The story is that they are hard to handle, though -- at least for tug captains used to conventional screw propellers.  More than 1 company has set up its own simulator to train its people.

Cheers,
Michael
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d9t

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2007, 19:35:55 »

7. Ostara


8. RPA 10


9. Nieuwe Maze


10. Thalassa Royal


11. Abel Tasman


12. P5


13, 14, 15, 16.
Rotterdam (HAL)




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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2007, 20:44:51 »

Wow - Such great photos
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Stuart2007

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2007, 21:45:54 »

Is that yellow tug built to some standardised design?

It seems a familiar design. Looks just like those under construction in SantCruzzi (Bilbao), Spain.

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Captain Davies

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2007, 22:06:46 »

It also happens to be in SS08! ;D
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Sam

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2007, 08:27:30 »

Here are the 'funny' tugs doing some heavy work:




This is on the channel between the Wester and the Oosterschelde.
They are transporting a new containercrane for the MSC terminal in the Delwaide dok, in the port of Antwerp.
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Captain Davies

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2007, 12:07:46 »

That's impressive!  I wonder how they got it on the bardge?
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Sam

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2007, 15:58:20 »

I was lucky to see this, We were driving home from a weekend sailing and when we just wanted to drive in the tunnel to drive trough under the channel I saw something strange going trough the bridge over the channel.

My dad parked the car near the channel nd toulk some pictures.
The right place at the right time. ;D

Here are some more pictures.

How it looks in the car when your driving on the highway.



I'm sorry for the bad quality of the pictures.
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Sam

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2007, 16:00:58 »

That's impressive!  I wonder how they got it on the bardge?

I think they lift it up and ride it on the barge with this (http://www.mammoet.com/plaatjes/db/images/big/237.jpg).
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Captain Davies

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2007, 15:35:02 »

Yeah, that makes sense, though it would probably have to have a bigger bed; the one they used.
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muns

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2007, 15:58:39 »

If the cranes run on rails (which most do), I would expect that they have welded rail sections to the barge and run them on.  I remember seeing something on one of the discovery channels or national geographic when several container crains were made in the far east, rolled onto a vessel and shipped to the US accross the Pacific!

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d9t

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2007, 17:20:42 »


17. De Majesteit


18. Marga


19. Josefine


20. Waterboot 15


 :)
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Captain Davies

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2007, 18:42:42 »

If the cranes run on rails (which most do), I would expect that they have welded rail sections to the barge and run them on.  I remember seeing something on one of the discovery channels or national geographic when several container crains were made in the far east, rolled onto a vessel and shipped to the US accross the Pacific!



They must have had a tight schedule with the tide, or is the tide at Rotterdam constant?
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mporter

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2007, 20:22:16 »

They must have had a tight schedule with the tide, or is the tide at Rotterdam constant?

One can tell the question is from a Brit -- Rotterdam (more-or-less at the center of an oscillatory system) has very little tide.

Cheers,
Michael
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Captain Davies

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2007, 20:59:10 »

Never been to Rotterdam you see. ;)
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Sam

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2007, 22:04:54 »

If the cranes run on rails (which most do), I would expect that they have welded rail sections to the barge and run them on.  I remember seeing something on one of the discovery channels or national geographic when several container crains were made in the far east, rolled onto a vessel and shipped to the US accross the Pacific!



Yes, that is possible with the Dockwise ships and a chinese company where I can't spell the name of.
But this crane is only the upper part, it can't run on rails yet.

The transport you mean is with ships like this (http://www.zpmc.com/ship_detail.asp?Article_ID=108&Column_ID=36).
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muns

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2007, 09:39:45 »

Yes, that is possible with the Dockwise ships and a chinese company where I can't spell the name of.
But this crane is only the upper part, it can't run on rails yet.

The transport you mean is with chips like this (http://www.zpmc.com/ship_detail.asp?Article_ID=108&Column_ID=36).

True, I should open my eyes a little.  :)
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d9t

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2007, 23:37:26 »

More!

21. Seven Oceans


22. Polar Queen


23. Emma


24. Spica


25. Arison


26. Breediep + Zennestroom


27. VS Hamburg


28. Prisonships1


29. Prisonships2


30. Claudia


31. unknown


32. De Delft
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Captain Davies

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2007, 17:59:49 »

What sort of ships are the Seven Oceans and Polar Queen?  What are they used for?
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Sam

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2007, 18:06:23 »

I think they are used to lay cables on the seabottom.

U can see a large drum on the ship.
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Captain Davies

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2007, 18:12:08 »

U can see a large drum on the ship.

Yeah I'd wondered about that, I guess cable laying makes sense.  But what's the helipad for?  And no "for helicopters to land on" sarcy comments please, I mean why does a helicopter need to land there? :D
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mporter

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2007, 21:04:05 »

They are pipe-lay boats.  I think the Seven Oceans used to be called something else when I saw her in New Orleans.

Many jobs for bigger pipe-laying vessels with the explosion of offshore oil drilling.

About all deepwater oil-field vessels have helipads since that is the main way people get around.

Cheers,
Michael
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Sam

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2007, 21:21:52 »

I don't think she could be called else beceaus she allways had the name Seven Oceans.

Take a look at this:http://www.tugspotters.com/verslag/seven%20ocean/reisverslag.htm (http://www.tugspotters.com/verslag/seven%20ocean/reisverslag.htm)
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Captain Davies

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #48 on: July 04, 2007, 19:38:25 »

They are pipe-lay boats.  I think the Seven Oceans used to be called something else when I saw her in New Orleans.

Many jobs for bigger pipe-laying vessels with the explosion of offshore oil drilling.

About all deepwater oil-field vessels have helipads since that is the main way people get around.

Cheers,
Michael

Thanks for the info.  :)
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mporter

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Re: Photographs of ships in Rotterdam
« Reply #49 on: July 04, 2007, 21:27:38 »

I don't think she could be called else beceaus she allways had the name Seven Oceans.


Must have been a different vessel then -- similar pipe wheel, though.
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