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saltydog

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Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« on: January 11, 2013, 07:26:29 »

I was curious how the salvaging of the ship was getting on after a year, and found this interesting article about the planned method..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19962191

Also added is a live webcam-site on the island of Giglio  here  (http://www.giglionews.it/2010022440919/webcam/isola-del-giglio/webcam-giglio-porto-panoramica.html)
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Cat320DL

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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2013, 18:00:43 »

Ya I been watching it too.

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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2013, 20:38:16 »

According to Wikipedia they already want to lift it off the bottom by next week.
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Captain Cadet

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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2013, 16:41:46 »

They still haven't moved her after a year! I thought it went ages ago
Mind you there a bit of rust on her
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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2013, 17:39:10 »

Here is another link for Concordia. Called the Parbuckling Project and shows progress made

http://www.theparbucklingproject.com/ (http://www.theparbucklingproject.com/)
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The Ferry King

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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2013, 15:05:39 »

well, its quite expensive to move such a great ship.

especially when knowing that this is one of the biggest salvaging operations in history.
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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2013, 15:25:56 »

Well, They can hardly leave it there.
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MokMok

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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2013, 21:44:06 »

At http://heiwaco.tripod.com/news8.htm (http://heiwaco.tripod.com/news8.htm) you can read a big article about the causes of the Costa Concordia tragedy. Heiwaco states that the watertight doors below the bulkhead deck were not closed at the time the ship struck a reef.

Heiwaco also has an alternative view about the capsizing of the MS Estonia back in 1994.
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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2013, 15:03:03 »

At http://heiwaco.tripod.com/news8.htm (http://heiwaco.tripod.com/news8.htm) you can read a big article about the causes of the Costa Concordia tragedy. Heiwaco states that the watertight doors below the bulkhead deck were not closed at the time the ship struck a reef.

Heiwaco also has an alternative view about the capsizing of the MS Estonia back in 1994.

It is quite possible that some of the watertight doors were open.  Doors have 3 designations, A, B and C.

Class C watertight doors must be closed at sea and can only be opened to pass through.

Class B doors can be open at sea if someone is working in an adjacent compartment

Class A doors can be open at sea unless the ship is navigating in confined waters or in restricted visibility.

If the sail past of Giglio Island was being treated as a normal sea passage rather than a "stand-by" situation then it is quite possible that the A and B class doors in the machinery spaces were open at the time.

It is also possible that someone had nipped into one of the spaces accessed by a class C door for a couple of minutes and had left the door open until they left when the collision occurred.

We won't know the truth until the results of the formal investigation is published, and even then it is possible the true truth won't come out.
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saltydog

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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2013, 20:37:29 »

I find it ironic that the NE wind on that fatefull night played a role in both the collision with the rock and the eventual beaching, which enabled many people to abandon ship..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOXuBUvNakM
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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2013, 20:42:51 »

I find it ironic that the NE wind on that fatefull night played a role in both the collision with the rock and the eventual beaching, which enabled many people to abandon ship..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOXuBUvNakM

I thinkt that it was the Lord God, Father of His only begotten Son Jesus Christ, who provided the NE wind, so that many people could be saved.
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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2013, 22:46:28 »

I thinkt that it was the Lord God, Father of His only begotten Son Jesus Christ, who provided the NE wind, so that many people could be saved.

Ahhhhh... maybe... probably not. It was also probably how the ship turned where it did that beached it.
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The Ferry King

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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2013, 15:12:13 »

and all of this wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for a drunk captain, i cant believe how foolish some people could be to hire a fool to sail a damn over 500Million USD worth carrying that many souls.
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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2013, 16:52:37 »

and all of this wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for a drunk captain, i cant believe how foolish some people could be to hire a fool to sail a damn over 500Million USD worth carrying that many souls.


What do you base him being drunk on?
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Rbsanford

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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2013, 00:16:47 »

Shnettino (is that how you spell it?) wan't drunk, he was just dumb.

EDIT: removed the  :doh: face
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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2013, 03:22:21 »

Shnettino (is that how you spell it?) wan't drunk, he was just dumb. :doh:
not really smart to put a :doh: face there when 30+ people were lost that night...
just saying.
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The Ferry King

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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2013, 21:18:22 »

What do you base him being drunk on?

He wasn't drunk on that night,
But he has a record of being a alcoholic (not the simple sip of the glass but i mean a drunkard). A show off, an entertainer on board the ship..
Companies shouldnt hire captains who have had a alcoholic record (intense) especially when there is 4000 lives at stake.
Source: Concordia, final story- National Geographic
Source: many websites.
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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2013, 21:20:53 »

I thinkt that it was the Lord God, Father of His only begotten Son Jesus Christ, who provided the NE wind, so that many people could be saved.

You put your faith in the imagineery friend. The rest will trust in luck.

Where was your "god" for those killed?
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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2013, 21:22:43 »

He wasn't drunk on that night,
But he has a record of being a alcoholic (not the simple sip of the glass but i mean a drunkard). A show off, an entertainer on board the ship..
Companies shouldnt hire captains who have had a alcoholic record (intense) especially when there is 4000 lives at stake.
Source: Concordia, final story- National Geographic
Source: many websites.



"facts" on NGTV? P'raps a professional (Traddles, Clanky) can confirm actual rules
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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2013, 22:26:30 »

He wasn't drunk on that night,
But he has a record of being a alcoholic (not the simple sip of the glass but i mean a drunkard). A show off, an entertainer on board the ship..
Companies shouldnt hire captains who have had a alcoholic record (intense) especially when there is 4000 lives at stake.
Source: Concordia, final story- National Geographic
Source: many websites.

I think their needs to be more background checks to be honest
Someone who is drunk all the time cannot be a captain but also someone who been alcoholic and has Been caught being realy drunk shouldn't be a captain
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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2013, 23:17:07 »

"facts" on NGTV? P'raps a professional (Traddles, Clanky) can confirm actual rules

I don't know Stuart, NatGeo is pretty trustworthy and accurate (not that Traddles and Clanky aren't).
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saltydog

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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2013, 05:47:57 »

This weekend I saw a recent documentary by National Geographic called "Concordia, one year on"..
It seemed fairly realistic. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find it on YouTube..
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Stuart2007

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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2013, 08:29:27 »

This weekend I saw a recent documentary by National Geographic called "Concordia, one year on"..
It seemed fairly realistic. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find it on YouTube..

Yes. Didn't tell you anything new. No mention of being drunk either
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The Ferry King

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Re: Salvaging the Costa Concordia
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2013, 20:24:50 »

it said the captain had was a alcoholic, and would normally not be onboard the bridge but walking around the ship, like an entertainer at shows-not doing his duty.

But then again, we don't need to get into any discussion, because no one knows the real cause if this accident so if we start using our own perception without any evidence it will just make us seem stupid.

The Italian authority are seeing the blackboxes to determine what the real cause was.
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« Reply #24 on: January 29, 2013, 21:13:17 »

On this Discovery program called Costa Concordia One Year After, they showed actual sound (and footage I believe) that it just was reckless sailing by its captain. Schettino made such a close sail-by before and this time it went wrong because of miscommunication by his (Indonesian?) helmsman. Schettino did order the maneuvers but the helmsman didn't hear the commands that well or responded too late or too slow.
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