Topic: What do I do With Half of Â£20 note (Read 11791 times)

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #25 on:** May 19, 2011, 15:37:05 »

Oh and strike waffle, I don't have a clue where you got your history from. I really don't.

Matthew Brown · « **Reply #26 on:** May 19, 2011, 17:24:09 »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNQXQKflJNA

rjwhyte09 · « **Reply #27 on:** May 19, 2011, 17:49:59 »

you said this But if you weren't so young and inexperience meaning me i am credit in Modern studies and got full marks in my exam so i no what i am talking about and don`t try to blame it on other people you took this to far after i said about the Scottish election results.

IRI5HJ4CK · « **Reply #28 on:** May 19, 2011, 18:12:36 »

I usually tend not to try and touch upon topics to do with politics anywhere online, because more often than not they're ignited by people who still live in the 1700s. But...

I find it so sad that people still argue about the troubles in Northern Ireland, or Scotland, or anywhere else. I spent half my life living in Ireland, and half here, and to be quite honest I get on just as well with an Englishman as I would an Irishman. The people who cause trouble are the ones who ignite the bomb of politics + history, which always has caused trouble and always will.

In primary school in Ireland, I learned about what the atrocities that have happened over the years with English invasions of Ireland, but that doesn't make me dislike Britain. History is history, and that is where it should stay - We've got much more pressing issues to deal with in our time, rather than fighting about the past. The people here today aren't responsible for what their ancestors did yesterday.

I'll always quite happily fly the Union Jack next to the Tri-Colour.

Jack.

Captain Calmac · « **Reply #29 on:** May 19, 2011, 19:21:20 »

i <3 scotland

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le91mq1rApY&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le91mq1rApY&feature=related)

Can the english put on a performance like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKfnfcgH3L4&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKfnfcgH3L4&feature=related)

the bagpipes are the best invention ever (bar ship sim)

Matthew Brown · « **Reply #30 on:** May 19, 2011, 19:31:07 »

Come on CC no need for any upstagement on anything

Where were we all exactly? Oh yeah

What do I do With Half of Â£20 note

Captain Calmac · « **Reply #31 on:** May 19, 2011, 20:32:19 »

put it in da jar so that wen scotland come independant we wont need to worry about going bust

Captain Calmac · « **Reply #32 on:** May 19, 2011, 20:32:54 »

I am terrible

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #33 on:** May 19, 2011, 21:44:48 »

I don't mind taking advice from experienced adults, who understand politics, who appreciate history and who have a balanced outlook on life.

Thus far you are giving the impression of being young kids, maybe 13-15 yrs old with sfa understanding of politics. Your history is factually flawed (I think I can up you on qualifications and experience, but hey lets not go there).

Incidentally, channel 4 did a great documentary about the Catesby plot in Westminster. Perhaps you should look on 4OD for this- it explains a hell of a lot about the actions that led up to the AoU in 1707.

You have heard of King jimmy who took the throne after Queen lizzy 1 died? I mean you DO understand what led up to the acts of violence between catholics and the scottish aristocracy? Just in case, have a read up on the attitudes that changed with jimmy 1 and how it came to a head in the reign of charlie 1.

I'd suggest the act of settlement 1701 should be a good starting place. You have to understand WHY decisions were taken but to do that you have to view them from a relevant perspective.

But being wise grown up 15 year olds with your gcse's I suspect you know this already.

Kevinmcg_ships · « **Reply #34 on:** May 19, 2011, 21:59:41 »

Quote from: Stuart2007 on May 16, 2011, 09:54:42

Many companies won't accept them and the reason for that isn't down to some show of annoyance with Scottish attitude, but simply that they are very easy to forge.

A few years ago Strathclyde Police issued a scam warning to shop owners in my area to watch out for fake.....ENGLISH......Â£10 and Â£20 notes that was being circulating around.

Any banknotes can be forged, criminals doesn't care which currency or country.

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #35 on:** May 20, 2011, 09:49:19 »

Kevin,

this isn't a slight at scotchland (there are many better reasons) but it IS a fact that scotchish notes are easier to forge than English ones.

I take scotchish notes here (or sometimes whisky, cabers, haggis and iron brew instead) and don't find much of a problem. I think I've had one dodgy Â£20 note this year- I have more dodgy English notes, but that's something to do with not having many scotchish customers.

There again after the scottish fred the shred wrecked the scottish royal bank of scotland, I wonder if the notes are actually worth anything now anyway...

Captain Calmac · « **Reply #36 on:** May 20, 2011, 17:56:21 »

Quote from: Stuart2007 on May 20, 2011, 09:49:19

Kevin,

this isn't a slight at scotchland (there are many better reasons) but it IS a fact that scotchish notes are easier to forge than English ones.

I take scotchish notes here (or sometimes whisky, cabers, haggis and iron brew instead) and don't find much of a problem. I think I've had one dodgy Â£20 note this year- I have more dodgy English notes, but that's something to do with not having many scotchish customers.

There again after the scottish fred the shred wrecked the scottish royal bank of scotland, I wonder if the notes are actually worth anything now anyway...

1. Why do you keep calling Scotland "Scotchland"? Is this some kind of english slang?
2. Its Irn Bru (Iron brew tastes HORRIBLE)

Kevinmcg_ships · « **Reply #37 on:** May 20, 2011, 18:14:59 »

Quote from: Captain Calmac on May 20, 2011, 17:56:21

1. Why do you keep calling Scotland "Scotchland"? Is this some kind of english slang?
2. Its Irn Bru (Iron brew tastes HORRIBLE)

I think Stuart has been reading too much Kelvin Mackenzie (The Sun) and Quentin Letts (the Daily Mail) articles - both are well known for their anti-Scottish views.

Captain Calmac · « **Reply #38 on:** May 20, 2011, 18:29:47 »

Quote from: Kevinmcg_ships on May 20, 2011, 18:14:59

I think Stuart has been reading too much Kelvin Mackenzie (The Sun) and Quentin Letts (the Daily Mail) articles - both are well known for their anti-Scottish views.

I agree

Captain Calmac · « **Reply #39 on:** May 20, 2011, 18:40:20 »

oh and i found an excellent comment on youtube

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwwk3iJUn6g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwwk3iJUn6g))

'Yes, Scotland has all of the things you mentioned but Scotland has an economy and a very good one at that. Edinburgh is the second most visited country in the the UK, Scotland controls North Sea Oil, 70%ï»¿ of the UK's tidal power, 25% of Europe's wind power, 25% of Europe's tidal power, 10% of Europe,s wave power. Did you know in 2008, London took Â£12.9 Billion from Scotland in oil and gas. That is the same as every scot giving away Â£2300 a year that shows we have a good economy'

somehow i cant see scotland going bust too soon, not with alex salmond in control

Kevinmcg_ships · « **Reply #40 on:** May 20, 2011, 18:52:12 »

A very good point Captain CalMac.

Did you see that Alex Salmond wants to create more green energy such as tidal power, wind power etc in Scotland? I think he's very canny as he must have realised Scotland's oil will probably run out in around 20 years time.

When that happens, there will be plenty of green energy infrastructure put in place already, and we'll be selling electricity to England.

Captain Calmac · « **Reply #41 on:** May 20, 2011, 19:10:51 »

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #42 on:** May 21, 2011, 10:50:26 »

I'm sure you're right, which is why I shall visit your lands to help campaign for your independence.

We all know that nationalist governments always look after their own people in the end and always have a happy ending.

Though I notice you failed dismally to address any of the historical points that I raised. Perhaps you are TOO wise and experienced to converse with me on it.

If it was as simple as you dullards think, ecosse would have gone ages back. But it isn't as simple as you think so it hasn't. I'm well and truly in favour of it. As long as you do not expect the barnett formula to be applied once you've gone then we're all happy.

Kevinmcg_ships · « **Reply #43 on:** May 21, 2011, 12:08:03 »

Judging by your attitude we would be better off going alone without any small-minded and bigoted views coming from England.

And I object you using the word 'dullards' to describe Scottish people, Stuart. It's offensive.

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #44 on:** May 21, 2011, 14:38:14 »

Look, I'm not the one that started it. Having had to live for years in the same house as scottish, I'm quite well qualified to comment on their bad attitude and "blame England for everything."

But quite frankly, I am not really interested in debating politics with children. So either button it or- if you want to be REALLY impressive. Go and read up on my above comments and learn the REASON for the AoU. Until you understand your history you can not understand the present. Do yourself a favour and learn a little. With a bit of experience (this will come with age) and some political/hostoric knowledge you might even be able to argue your point.

Only once you have answered those points!

IRI5HJ4CK · « **Reply #45 on:** May 21, 2011, 16:21:27 »

Quote from: Stuart2007 on May 21, 2011, 14:38:14

I'm quite well qualified to comment on their bad attitude and "blame England for everything."

That's like saying that because I'm Irish, I blame England for all of Ireland's problems over the years...

Although England's interferences in Ireland have been the root of the trouble in Ireland, that doesn't mean that I look at you and say that I should blame you for everything that has happened in Ireland.

One person is just as good as the next - Just because I'm Irish doesn't mean I dislike every Englishman I see, likewise, you shouldn't take every Scotsman that you see and say that he blames the Englishman for everything. I take people as I find them, not because of their nationality or race, even though I am probably quite entitled to point at England and start a mudslinging match.

The reason why there is still so much trouble between England and other nations is because of people who still bring up these old relations and prejudices. I have respect for you Stuart, as I do with everyone at this forum, but it highly frustrates me when people play the nationality card. I live in England, I get on fine with everyone. Just because England has historical grievances with my home country, doesn't mean I dislike every Englishman I see.

I am proud to be born in Ireland, but I am also just as proud to live here in this country, and to soon be part of Britain's Merchant Navy, and to serve this country with fellow Brits.

Jack.

Stuart2007 · « **Reply #46 on:** May 21, 2011, 19:18:46 »

Hang on Jack, no one is talking about Ireland. I was not the one that started on scottish independence either, but that point seems to have been overlooked.

I am not sure what point you are making here, Jack. I have travelled around this planet enough times, can speak several languages and have friends in many countries (and I mean friends, not facebook contacts as with most people!).

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #47 on:** May 21, 2011, 19:26:04 »

OK I think we have gone far enough with this now...

$:-\$

IRI5HJ4CK · « **Reply #48 on:** May 21, 2011, 20:39:42 »

Quote from: Stuart2007 on May 21, 2011, 19:18:46

Hang on Jack, no one is talking about Ireland. I was not the one that started on scottish independence either, but that point seems to have been overlooked.

I am not sure what point you are making here, Jack. I have travelled around this planet enough times, can speak several languages and have friends in many countries (and I mean friends, not facebook contacts as with most people!).

To me it doesn't really make a difference whether you're talking about Ireland or Scotland - the point I'm making is that I don't judge a nation of people based on a few people I dislike, or because of the past. The way I'm looking at this is from the view that I'm not from Britain, but I live in this country, and get along fine with the people here.

What if I were Scottish? I wouldn't 'blame Britain' for everything. The reason why I used my 'Irish' view point was because in my view, Ireland and Scotland share similar parallels, regarding their history with Britain. Hence I would imagine that many of the Scottish population would also share my 'neutral' viewpoint towards the British?

I have many Scottish friends, and have met many Scottish people, and to be quite honest, I find a lot of them to be very nice down to earth people. The ones who I met briefly probably thought I was English, as I speak with an English accent, but they didn't have a problem with me. Likewise, if I were English, why should I have a problem with them, as you seem to?

Like I said earlier, I have respect for you Stuart, but I really do hate it when this whole ordeal crops up with nationality. I have no problem with discussing things like this, but I hate it when it turns into a mudslinging match.

Jack.

The Ferry Man · « **Reply #49 on:** May 21, 2011, 20:40:58 »

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