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clanky

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engine rooms
« on: July 21, 2010, 10:09:53 »

Engine rooms are horrible, smelly, dirty places anyway; you wouldn't like them! :p
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Ballast

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Re: engine rooms
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2010, 11:31:16 »

I couldn't have said it better  ;D
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larsdehaan

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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2010, 11:35:22 »

Engine rooms are horrible, smelly, dirty places anyway; you wouldn't like them! :p
you forgot noisy but engine rooms can be clean when you call Mike Rowe
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Ballast

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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2010, 11:47:15 »

The noisy part fades away after a few years  :doh:



You don't need Mike Rowe to keep a 21 yr old engineroom spic and span, just a crew that do their job with pride and joy.  ;)

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larsdehaan

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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2010, 11:48:33 »

but ballast mike rowe adds time and maybe a little fun
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2010, 14:30:30 »

Especially when you're not the one doing the work.  :doh:
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clanky

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Re: engine rooms
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2010, 08:32:14 »

Ballast, am I seeing things or is that an 8 cylinder MaK engine, I thought they only came in 7 or 9 ???
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Ballast

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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2010, 11:18:27 »

Yep, MaK 8M32 3520 kW  :thumbs: I'm quiet suprised i actually know that one  ::)
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clanky

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Re: engine rooms
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2010, 11:39:36 »

IMHO MaK's are presently the best medium speed engines around.
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clanky

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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2010, 11:40:31 »

or maybe it would be better to say that they are the least awful medium speed engines around!
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2010, 11:48:17 »

I guess so, i hear non of the engineers complain about it during coffee time  ;D
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Re: engine rooms
« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2010, 18:48:32 »

@ballast,toevallig ook een filmpje met geluid van die MAK ergens op het www ?
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clanky

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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2010, 09:20:01 »

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=MaK+marine+engine (http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=MaK+marine+engine)

 :P

alternatively

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKNEQMIlsVE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKNEQMIlsVE)
« Last Edit: July 24, 2010, 09:21:53 by clanky »
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2010, 09:48:16 »

I've split this topic in 2 parts, to keep the orginal one on topic and to give the engineers a place where they feel at home  :P

@Dycore, i don't have a movie of the MaK, but i'll try to make one once i get back on board  :)
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Ballast

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Re: engine rooms
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2010, 09:53:53 »



A look inside one of the cylinders
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clanky

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Re: engine rooms
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2010, 10:32:23 »

I've split this topic in 2 parts, to keep the orginal one on topic and to give the engineers a place where they feel at home  :P

I love the way the thread starts with me randomly moaning about how horrible engine rooms are!

I remember when I used to go to the engine room occasionally, on the bright side my typing skillz are pretty good these days.




* edit - fixed quote
« Last Edit: July 24, 2010, 12:48:08 by Mad_Fred »
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« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2010, 20:27:26 »

Ballast, am I seeing things or is that an 8 cylinder MaK engine, I thought they only came in 7 or 9 ???

You have many types, 6,7,8 and 9 inline cylinders. And other types, like V16.
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clanky

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Re: engine rooms
« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2010, 22:19:17 »

I have never seen an 8 cylinder MaK engine before IRL.
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« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2010, 23:14:15 »

Engine rooms are horrible, smelly, dirty places anyway; you wouldn't like them! :p


I think that the noisiest enginerooms of all were perhaps those of the days of the reciprocating steam engines.
Though I`m absolutely certain that they were also the most FASCINATING engine rooms of all.  The fascinating bit also goes for the old stokeholds, though some will probably think me crazy for that.
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« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2010, 20:22:07 »


I think that the noisiest enginerooms of all were perhaps those of the days of the reciprocating steam engines.
Though I`m absolutely certain that they were also the most FASCINATING engine rooms of all.  The fascinating bit also goes for the old stokeholds, though some will probably think me crazy for that.

The only recip steam engine I have ever seen is on P.S. Waverly, not particularly noisy, but certainly fascinating, I was lucky enough to be at Glasgow Nautical College as a cadet with one of the engineers from the Waverly and we used to go down at the weekends during the winter and help out with the winter refit.

The guy I was at college with eventually ended up as the chief engineer.
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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2010, 22:53:55 »

The Liberty ships had a triple expansion steam engine (Three cylinders for those who don't know) High, medium and low pressure steam went first to the smaller cylinder (HP) next to the medium sized Cylinder (MP) and finally to a quite large diameter low pressure one. (LP) This type of engine was actually remarkably quiet with no thump, thump, thump like a diesel engine. First time I sailed on one after a five cylinder Doxford engined ship I woke up in the night to almost total silence and thought the ship had broken down. :doh:
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« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2010, 00:36:10 »

Doxford J type.

http://www.doxford-engine.com/images/gallery/27.jpg

Last design by this company let down by the couldn't-give-a-toss country.
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« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2010, 01:37:25 »

Stuart!?  :o

He is still alive :2thumbs:
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« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2010, 12:08:35 »

Unlike a lot of modern diesels, the Doxford opposed piston engines had visible movement showing at the top of the engine with the top piston whizzing up and down. "clanky" would be better able to describe this being an engineer himself, rather than a mere Mate like me!  Wm. Doxford of Sunderland built many ships as well as engines and were a very well established Company at one time. This is a six cylinder engine of similar design to that which was fitted to many of the Harrison Line ships I sailed on. The ones I experienced were all 5 cylinder jobs.
« Last Edit: July 26, 2010, 12:18:30 by Traddles »
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clanky

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« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2010, 23:20:27 »

Wow, there is a blast from the past!  Doxfords at one point powered a huge percentage of all ships at sea.

My only experience of Doxfords was a 3 cylinder beast on a msall container ship called the City of Manchester (ex Ellerman's), I spent a month staring at this thing wondering how the whole thing managed not only to keep running, but to stay in one piece.

As Traddles says they have two pistons which means that the forces usually absorbed by the cylinder head are actually transferred to the crankshaft, making them very fuel efficient, but mechanically very complicated.  Unfortunately the company did not put the money into research and development that others did and eventually the popularity fell away and the company went out of business as other manufacturers produced better and better engines. Their hayday was the J-type which is shown in the photo in Traddles post.
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