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maritiem

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stupid question?
« on: January 18, 2009, 15:53:07 »

Hi everyone

maybe it's a very stupid question but I need your help. I was thinking of taking a tattoo (when I get old enough) of a god who protects sailors. (I want to go to sea)
But now is the question: which god protects the sailors? is it poseidon or palaemon or maybe leucothea?
here is a website which I founded:  http://www.theoi.com/Pontios/Palaimon.html 
maybe a stupid topic but thanks anyway for your help  :P


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Re: stupid question?
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2009, 20:19:03 »

I always thought it was Poseidon, and in the film poseidon (2006 version) the 'cruise director' guy says something about Poseidon being the protector of the sailors of the sea or something like that. But Im only 90% sure so dont fully count on that.
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TerryRussell

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Re: stupid question?
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2009, 20:55:18 »

Please note: this is not intended to indicate any religious leanings of any sort. It is intended as historical research.

St. Elmo is the patron saint of sailors.

Cernunnos (the "Horned one"), is believed to have been worshipped by sailors from the Gallic Parisii tribe (from whom Paris got its name) in the 1st century AD.

Thor (after whom "Thursday" - Thoor's Day - is named) is the old Scandinavian God of the Sky and Thunder. A kindly God of the common people, including farmers and sailors.
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Capt.Bluebeard

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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2009, 02:50:00 »


Thor (after whom "Thursday" - Thoor's Day - is named) is the old Scandinavian God of the Sky and Thunder. A kindly God of the common people, including farmers and sailors.
Nearly right Terry, Thor are only a Norwegian God ;)


Thor is the Norse (Old Norway) god of thunder. He is a son of Odin and Jord, and one of the most powerful gods. He is married to Sif, a fertility goddess. His mistress is the giantess Jarnsaxa ("iron cutlass"), and their sons are Magni and Modi and his daughter is Thrud. Thor is helped by Thialfi, his servant and the messenger of the gods.

Thor was usually portrayed as a large, powerful man with a red beard and eyes of lightning. Despite his ferocious appearance, he was very popular as the protector of both gods and humans against the forces of evil. He even surpassed his father Odin in popularity because, contrary to Odin, he did not require human sacrifices. In his temple at Uppsala he was shown standing with Odin at his right side. This temple was replaced by a Christian church in 1080.

The Norse believed that during a thunderstorm, Thor rode through the heavens on his chariot pulled by the goats Tanngrisni ("gap-tooth") and Tanngnost ("tooth grinder"). Lightning flashed whenever he threw his hammer Mjollnir. Thor wears the belt Megingjard which doubles his already considerable strength. His hall is Bilskirnir, which is located in the region Thrudheim ("place of might"). His greatest enemy is Jormungand, the Midgard Serpent. At the day of Ragnarok, Thor will kill this serpent but will die from its poison. His sons will inherit his hammer after his death.

Donar is his Teutonic equivalent, while the Romans see in him their god Jupiter. Thursday is named after him.


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Re: stupid question?
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2009, 04:11:50 »

all i've learned is that poseidon is the god of the seas :-\
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Re: stupid question?
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2009, 04:18:06 »

And Saint Nicholas is also a patron saint of sailors. (As in Sinterklaas, the Dutch festivity and the origin of Santa Claus)

Maritiem, I don't think a tattoo of 'Sinterklaas" is very butch.  ;D
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Capetan Thanasis

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Re: stupid question?
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2009, 14:46:41 »

Hi
In ancient Greece, Poseidon was the Cod of sea. For more information about Poseidon this link will help.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poseidon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poseidon)
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Re: stupid question?
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2009, 16:19:44 »

sorry terry :( but i say god (bible)  :laugh:

[edit by Terry]: I don't think you meant to refer to me, did you?
« Last Edit: January 19, 2009, 18:20:24 by TerryRussell »
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maritiem

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Re: stupid question?
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2009, 16:31:34 »

thanks for the replies but what about the two gods palaimon and leucothea? aren't they also protectors of the sailors?



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Re: stupid question?
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2009, 16:41:11 »

thanks for the replies but what about the two gods palaimon and leucothea? aren't they also protectors of the sailors?



maritiem

Here you haw them and yes they are protecting the sea this Greek sea god's  but i wont haw it as a tattoo
http://www.theoi.com/Pontios/Palaimon.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leucothea

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maritiem

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Re: stupid question?
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2009, 16:51:30 »

Here you haw them and yes they are protecting the sea this Greek sea god's  but i wont haw it as a tattoo
http://www.theoi.com/Pontios/Palaimon.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leucothea



If you should ask someone from Miami Ink than they could probably make something very nice (when using their fantasy) If you don't know what and who Miami Ink is thna you could use google. I always watch it on discovery.  :P

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Garth H

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Re: stupid question?
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2009, 16:51:42 »

Hello guys,

What does Neptune do?

Is'nt he involved as well.
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Capt.Bluebeard

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« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2009, 16:53:29 »

Hello guys,

What does Neptune do?

Is'nt he involved as well.

king Neptune is the Roman God Neptune
read here http://www.seayourhistory.org.uk/content/view/951/1189/

And here are Poseadon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poseidon
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2009, 16:55:39 »

If you should ask someone from Miami Ink than they could probably make something very nice (when using their fantasy) If you don't know what and who Miami Ink is thna you could use google. I always watch it on discovery.  :P

thnx TJK


maritiem
Miami Ink yes know that, try the lady that was faired and start up for she self she was weary good  :D here are LA Ink http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/realtime/laink/

But this is more like a tattoo it's no god but..........
« Last Edit: January 19, 2009, 17:15:32 by Capt.Bluebeard »
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Aad The Pirate

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Re: stupid question?
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2009, 17:08:09 »

Hi everyone

maybe it's a very stupid question but I need your help.


maritiem
Ahoy maritiem,
First of all: There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.
About your question: almost all answers to your question are right, but there is another Greek God of the sea. TRITON, the son of Poseidon (holding a Trident in his right hand) and Amphritrite. He had no legs, but a fishtail. He was blowing a large, twisted scallop, the Tritonsshell, to controll the waves.
And, off course, there is (was) a Roman counterpart: Neptunes.
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TerryRussell

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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2009, 18:25:59 »

Nearly right Terry, Thor are only a Norwegian God ;)

Disagree... Also worshiped in ancient Britain, Ireland, and all across what is now Scandanavia. There was of course, no such thing as Norway or Denmark or Sweden in those days. Plus in Nomandy (Norseman's Land), in what was then Gaul.

My wife studies these things. I bought her some thousand year old jewellery for Christmas, made by "Vikings". One of them was a clasp with a representation of Thor on it. As she says: "You only ever give me old stuff"...
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Capt.Bluebeard

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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2009, 19:05:43 »

Disagree... Also worshiped in ancient Britain, Ireland, and all across what is now Scandanavia. There was of course, no such thing as Norway or Denmark or Sweden in those days. Plus in Nomandy (Norseman's Land), in what was then Gaul.

My wife studies these things. I bought her some thousand year old jewellery for Christmas, made by "Vikings". One of them was a clasp with a representation of Thor on it. As she says: "You only ever give me old stuff"...

Well Norøn Mytologi -Norse Mythology, what did the Vikings believe in? A fantastic world of myths and fictions. that is this is, Thor and all they oder god's in that are wath the vikings believed in and they was also in Ireland, UK and all the islands around, on the way to Island and Vinland (USA) so the vikings was a traveling peoples to.
Here are a setup of all the god's and places http://home.c2i.net/elysnes/hannenorron.html
it's in Norwegian but the name are correct  try Google
So Terry you are only  nearly correct still  ;D
I can the Norøn mytologi l haw read it severals times and i know the history And i know it was not NOR, SVE, DEN that time.
And here are something  or all about vikings http://www.hotland.com/vikings/
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Re: stupid question?
« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2009, 02:01:45 »

I think I saw a kids tatoo something like what your thinking about...Like a beam of light on a sailboat i think it was...
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Capetan Thanasis

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Re: stupid question?
« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2009, 14:36:06 »

Hi
Neptune was not a Poseidon's Roman counterpart, but the same God.
When Romans conquered ancient Greece, they impressed from Hellenic civilization and as the time passed they adopted the philosophy and the Greek Gods changing the Greek names by Latin. So Zeus or Dias (king of Olymbian Gods) became Jupiter, Poseidon became Neptune, Hermes (God of commerce) became Mercury, Athena (patron of ancient Athens city) became Minerva, Aphrodite (Goddess of love) became Venus, etcetera-etcetera.
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Re: stupid question?
« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2009, 15:54:47 »

Hmmmmm, as a lighthousekeeper myself, are it the ancient Gods who protect the sailors or............



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maritiem

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Re: stupid question?
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2009, 16:33:57 »

thnx alot for your help all of you! It really helped me.... now I will see what I will do with this information.  :D



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