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[Capt.Bluebeard]

Relished? don't know that word.
I'm not that good in english.
Can you please explain?

HI/Hei Nyrum1x3

I'm not an expert in written English you see, beater in Norwegian i think 
Jeg er helle ikke expert i å skrive engelsk men prater perfect,, bedre i norsk tror jeg
I se you haw got the exploration hope are luckier   this time
jeg ser du har fått svar så da er alt bra

TJK/CB

[Nyrum1x3]

Yes, i see
Ja jeg ser

If they started that early, it's a mystery they managed to make New Horizons.
As you said, SS10 is in production, and you say they spend more time on that than older SS's.

[Capt.Bluebeard]

Yes, i see
Ja jeg ser

If they started that early, it's a mystery they managed to make New Horizons.
As you said, SS10 is in production, and you say they spend more time on that than older SS's.

Maybe it's the 12 Blond lady's Terry talked  about made it BDW QV are weary stable to crash so i joust wonder and if you see on my signature I'm not perfect jet

[Nyrum1x3]

hmm, a not perfect jet

[Capt.Bluebeard]

hmm, a not perfect jet

tried in 50 years to be perfect still not, so i give up 
but maybe back to topics?

[TerryRussell]

And it really doesn't seem very long since we had the last FREE update. Jumbo Javelin was released a very short time ago.

Before that, Elbe and Furie were released in the Shipyard in the Autumn.

Before that, you had Ocean Star and other ships via the Shipyard.

And it isn't very long ago that Fred and I released the horn add-on pack and the radio add-on pack.

I am working on the Rotterdam and USA radio packs right now. So more SS2008 updates to come.

And the number of new things that  know about for PRO and SS2010 versions is terrific!

So what's this about "Long time since update"? That's just wrong.

[Nyrum1x3]

No ship sim without ships.
New ships is NOT updates, just add-ons

I was mostly thinking about the AI.
Sometimes, when i chose a big ship (Vermaas, Latitude etc.) in a port, it seems that the AI din't know i'm there, they just continue.
Well, this happen some times.

[TerryRussell]

Those are all updates. It's just that you want something else, as well as all the other free stuff that has been issued.

And V1.4.2 did contain updates to AI as well as a lot of other things. That only came out a short time ago..

You didn't answer my question about how much you'd be prepared to pay for your desired updates though. What sort of sum do you have in mind?

[Traddles]

There are now 170 custom missions on file to download and play. That probably means that SS2008 is updated about once every two or three days. If anyone gets bored, it is always a good idea to play some missions, that IS what SS2008 is actually all about. It's a shame to complain about wanting updates when there is so much to download and enjoy. I should point out perhaps that every one of these missions is totally free and has been tested carefully by unpaid  CMM's so that all players can enjoy them. I reckon that is very, very good value for anyone. To top it all off we have the most helpful and enjoyable Forum too.

Angus.
P.S. I would point out also that in reality all ships other than ones own do not always behave as they should It can be very scary at times, but that is why ships are required to have a  qualified watchkeeper on the bridge at all times.

[RMSGreatBritain]

Very good point Traddles, well said. Although I see a wind of arguments on the horizon of this thread, Maybe it should be locked, I think Nyrum has got the idea now.

[Nyrum1x3]

So the AI is good enough for you?
TBH, it's maybe the worst AI i have ever seen in a game.

Custom missions doesn't change the Artifical Intelligence.

And since when did customers have to pay for updates/patches?

[Nathan|C]

And since when did customers have to pay for updates/patches?

Who said they do?

[Nyrum1x3]

"How much are you willing to pay" (something similar) was a question to me.
What else?

[Capt.Bluebeard]

"How much are you willing to pay" (something similar) was a question to me.
What else?

If you not like the game/simulator stop playing or seal it then you haw ended this problem you seems to haw , easy  like that and wee haw never payed for patches or updates only for some add ones and Jumbo Javelin wee got for free 

[Nyrum1x3]

As i've stated before, a new ship is not a update/patch, only a add-on.

Anyway, it's my opinion that SS08 need a few fixes.
I don't see a reason to abandon one game for a new.
I also have some other problems, crashes, but i think is because of my DPC, so i won't include that.

[Capt.Bluebeard]

As i've stated before, a new ship is not a update/patch, only a add-on.

Anyway, it's my opinion that SS08 need a few fixes.
I don't see a reason to abandon one game for a new.
I also have some other problems, crashes, but i think is because of my DPC, so i won't include that.

well send you complains in a pm to Mark or wout but they haw allot to do with making of the 2010 version of the ss so it will take a time to get a answer

[TerryRussell]

And since when did customers have to pay for updates/patches?

I gave you examples above. Did you not read them?

Besides, Vstep have already given you 4 major sets of upgrades for Free. Plus the add-ons that I mentioned above. Didn't you read about those either? I mentioned some that were not ships....

Oh well. This has become a pointless discussion. Chaps, time to go and do something more fun, I think. Me, I'm developing new radio add-on sounds and a complete set of buoys for the game, with the assistance of Fred and hopefully some others.

[Nyrum1x3]

You're right, this is pointless.
Let them keep the game with frustrating bugs.

[Nathan|C]

You're right, this is pointless.
Let them keep the game with frustrating bugs.

Development on SS2008 has ended, pretty much. Why are you expecting a patch to fix the bugs in the game, when they could be spending time preventing bugs in the future game?

And can you name some of the bugs you are experiencing? Which Version are you running?

[Nyrum1x3]

Hmm, i don't think SS10 will be flawless when it's released, there will be some fixes after release, i'm sure that will.
It's that way with every game, or that's what i've seen.
Even some console games i've had, had bugs.

I'm running the latest version, 1.4.2, that came with the Collector's Edition.
AI drunk drives ships most of the time.
And this is the only game that makes my PC crash.

[Nathan|C]

AI Ships are on a user created path in missions - If there is a problem with that mission, chances are it has been reported. In Free-Roam the ships are all following a realistic path and whenever you cross them they will stop (That is if you have 1.4.2 (?)).

And just because it makes you PC crash doesn't mean it is a buggy game. That sounds like a problem with your computer. I have never, in my 1 year of using SS2008, experienced a computer crash with the game.

[Captain Best]

Nyrum1x3. Vstep has done a great job.

And i think some of your problems with the game is your pc.

Vstep has some little bugs.

[Nathan|C]

He hasn't really said anything negative, just Broadcasted his own personal experience of the game.
All we can do is persuade him that this game is in fact brilliant..

[Captain Best]

He hasn't really said anything negative, just Broadcasted his own personal experience of the game.
All we can do is persuade him that this game is in fact brilliant..

ops typo. i did think to write it. and i thod i didnt that. must remove it

[Wande54]

There are now 170 custom missions on file to download and play.

Hi PC Skippers,
Where do I find these missions? I search the www.shipsim.com and "The Shipyard" from time to time to look for such stuff.
Has anyone an idea when Vstep are planning the 2010 version, and will it be possible to buy an update for my 2008 version?
I am a old Tug-Nut with no knowledge of programming and such. Sorry!