Topic: Cruise... (Read 5758 times)

matsuman · « **on:** January 04, 2009, 18:16:48 »

Okay i finally loaded my SS2008 that i got for Xmas.
I am a flightsim person and would like to try the shipsim.

I've installed the patch and registered my box copy.
Now, is there a way that i can continue the ship for a long cruise without pausing after the ship
reaches the Chart environment?. Basically, i just want to continue cruising... let say from San Francisco to Hawaii.

great sim.....

Kin M.

Shipaddict · « **Reply #1 on:** January 04, 2009, 18:29:07 »

Nope sorry, you can't without changing from San Fransisco to Atlantic etc

RMS Gigantic · « **Reply #2 on:** January 04, 2009, 18:31:06 »

Hawaii? That isn't in the game!

The reason that the area covered is so limited is that Vstep models each environment from scratch, as opposed to Flight Sim's comparatively lazy approach of covering the ground with satellite imagery, modeling the major buildings, and calling it good enough.

ash · « **Reply #3 on:** January 04, 2009, 18:31:50 »

its not like FS where you have the whole world you only have like ten environments. not hawaii

Edit:you got there before me!

matsuman · « **Reply #4 on:** January 04, 2009, 18:49:53 »

I know Hawaii is not on the sim, just making a point for a long cruise.
Now...the features say...."Navigate the Seas in free roam mode", "navigate the open seas" and "Sail from dusk till down". So far most of the cruise i've done on the tanker just to get the feeling of the sim, only gave a couple of hours of sailing until the sim pauses and want me to pick a new location.
Even with the mission editor, i can't create a mission cruise from Amsterdam to New York?

Thanks,
Kin M.

ash · « **Reply #5 on:** January 04, 2009, 18:54:39 »

because amsterdam isnt in it!!!! any way that is navigating the open seas when you get to the edge choose a new environment what is wrong with that??

RMS Gigantic · « **Reply #6 on:** January 04, 2009, 18:54:46 »

Once again, Amsterdam is not in the game.

You can only select the stretches of sea that Vstep put in, so you could go Solent --> English Channel -->Atlantic Ocean --> New York Atlantic Ocean --> New York, teleporting from each, but other than that, each enviroment has boundaries.

ash · « **Reply #7 on:** January 04, 2009, 18:55:55 »

and you would have to have an extremly powerful computer to power all the environments at once

matsuman · « **Reply #8 on:** January 04, 2009, 19:01:46 »

Again...new to the sim and that's why i asked these questions.
Understood and thanks for clearing them out.

Kin M.

RMS Gigantic · « **Reply #9 on:** January 04, 2009, 19:08:08 »

No problem!

matt5674 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 04, 2009, 19:17:49 »

Should anyone tell him the only enviorments in the game are New York, San Francisco, Rotterdam, Hamburg, The Solent, Marseille, Thai Phi Phi Islands, Bergen NorthSea, Rotterdam NorthSea, Hamburg NorthSea, Solent English Channel, Marseille Medditerranean Sea, San Francisco Pacific Ocean, New York North Atlantic, and the Atlantic?
And Padstow with New Horizons. Those are the only enviorments in Ship Simulator 2008

ash · « **Reply #11 on:** January 04, 2009, 19:25:25 »

you just did

bbydino05 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 04, 2009, 21:02:57 »

Quote from: matt5674 on January 04, 2009, 19:17:49

Should anyone tell him the only enviorments in the game are New York, San Francisco, Rotterdam, Hamburg, The Solent, Marseille, Thai Phi Phi Islands, Bergen NorthSea, Rotterdam NorthSea, Hamburg NorthSea, Solent English Channel, Marseille Medditerranean Sea, San Francisco Pacific Ocean, New York North Atlantic, and the Atlantic?
And Padstow with New Horizons. Those are the only enviorments in Ship Simulator 2008

why is there a problem cause if u are going to compare us to vs then well they may have more downloads but look at your quality

bbydino05 · « **Reply #13 on:** January 04, 2009, 21:04:52 »

Quote from: ash on January 04, 2009, 18:31:50

its not like FS where you have the whole world you only have like ten environments. not hawaii

Edit:you got there before me!

rumor has it that amsterdam will be an add-on environment

Minime · « **Reply #14 on:** January 04, 2009, 21:06:41 »

and where did you hear that rumor?

ash · « **Reply #15 on:** January 04, 2009, 21:08:34 »

he didnt compare us to VS and dont double post just modify your existing one!

mvsmith · « **Reply #16 on:** January 05, 2009, 05:41:00 »

It is possible to create a mission where you can cruise for at least a few hundred miles in an ocean environment without any pauses for reloading. Depending upon the speed of the shipâ€”10 knots for the classic yachtâ€”you can go for over 24 hours.

Considering that only a handful have completed a transatlantic mission requiring 4-1/2 hours, there is very little true demand for such capabilityâ€”only romantic dreams.

Most trans-ocean flights in FS are done either with autopilot or time acceleration, which defeats the purpose of the exercise.

Dino,
Donâ€™t start rumors. The announced environments for 2010 are: Sydney (the one in Oz, not the one in B.C.), part of Antarctica, and Bora Bora.

Mr Robville · « **Reply #17 on:** January 05, 2009, 08:52:08 »

well i do get the point, i like it better that there is a realistic globe made (would require some work to model all shores) but almost every game uses occlussions these days, occlussions are invisible shields which hide models behind it exept the environment (base model)
all models will only appear when you pass the occlussion.

so it's possible to load the whole world, as long as there are occlussions placed on the farest draw distance from land

RMSGreatBritain · « **Reply #18 on:** January 05, 2009, 09:14:35 »

Quote from: mr robville on January 05, 2009, 08:52:08

well i do get the point, i like it better that there is a realistic globe made (would require some work to model all shores) but almost every game uses occlussions these days, occlussions are invisible shields which hide models behind it exept the environment (base model)
all models will only appear when you pass the occlussion.

so it's possible to load the whole world, as long as there are occlussions placed on the farest draw distance from land

so its sort of like a big massive invisible grid? well sort of anyway.

jim.smith · « **Reply #19 on:** January 05, 2009, 12:42:19 »

Why dont we wait and see I like surprises.

matsuman · « **Reply #20 on:** January 05, 2009, 17:22:26 »

Well being a Ship Simulator, it will be great if a separate environment chart grid that will follow the ship as it cruises away.It will depict the idea of "sailing the majestic ocean" and not only cruising the ports and try to maneuver a big tanker thru a channel or doing taxi transport, rescue calls, etc...
The scenery engine or environment in this case... doesn't have to have a very dense coastline or depict a land mass with bunch of AIs. Just an over the horizon LAT/LON so you can still monitor or track the progress using real World Oceanic Map.
We see some of these features on naval war simulators, FSX and VS that you can just cruise the water until your pc hangs.
With MS Flightsim, the entire world is there and i never use slew speed to get from point A to point B. FMC and other basic navigation features that come with the simulator will provide enough realistic to the point.

Kin M.

mvsmith · « **Reply #21 on:** January 05, 2009, 19:03:26 »

This is a different simulator from FSX with a very different architecture and a different purpose.
If you want to cross an ocean that way, you can fly there in FSX and then rent a boat.

matsuman · « **Reply #22 on:** January 06, 2009, 00:02:15 »

I don't have FSX, i'm using that as an example.
Alright that's fine, a different architecturing or design...... i get that part. But i'm sure their programer or developer can create this..... just like FS or any sim.
I don't care if i get from point A to point B, but i like the idea of having that feature in the application would be great.

ash · « **Reply #23 on:** January 06, 2009, 18:00:19 »

Quote from: matsuman on January 05, 2009, 17:22:26

the entire world is there and i never use slew speed to get from point A to point B.
Kin M.

you basically just said you have FS, no?

matsuman · « **Reply #24 on:** January 06, 2009, 23:28:31 »

I have FS9.
FSX simulate water also and FS9 do not with some limitations.

Kin M.

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