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Mr Robville

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Tutorial, converting sketchup models to VS ships
« on: December 04, 2008, 17:17:21 »

hi there, it seems that a lot of people here at the non SS projects want their sketchup model being tested into Virtual sailor, since there are no detailed tutorials i thought about making one myself.
maybe this isn't the correct forum, but some people can learn of it,


i will use as an example boat the model from my early tutorial ''making a decent hull'' (http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,8667.0.html)
you can download the model i will use for this tutorial at the attachment of this post
its a simple undetailed sketched model made in 3 minutes by me to just instruct this.


Note: you can download an EVAL version of sketchup Pro, that one can also export 3ds files

ok, this is what you also need:
the ''Conv3ds converter 3ds to X file by Microsoft''
which can be downloaded here:
http://www.hangsim.com/vs/download.php

i would reccomend a other modelling tool for this tutorial like cinema 4d, 3ds max, or any tool were you can give objects names and seperate them.

then, i would expect you already know how to model or texture, and to export you need sketchup pro.
if you don't have sketchup pro, you have 2 solutions:

1.buy sketchup pro (around the $300) which isn't really a great option for people at younger ages.
2.find someone else who can export your model.



ok lets get started, when you downloaded the file from the attachment and opened it in sketchup you should see a vessel like the image shown above,
don't worry about the textures or edges, that will come later.

select the whole ship and go to window>soften edges, at the top bar.
once opened you should move the slide to near 63 degrees so 63.2 is also ok.
and checkmark the box ''soften coplanar''

it will look like this:

after done, close the soften panel

now the hull should have a smooth look.

then go to file>export>3D model...
you will see a pop up box to fill in the name and file format, in the right bottom corner there should be a button with ''options'' on it, click that button and you will see the new screen:


the top scroller must be set on full hierachy to export the full model, then uncheck the top 3 boxes.
the box with ''export standalone edges'' is the most importand to be turned off, this will stop exorting the edges which slow down the performance in other programs.

then checkmark the box ''export texture maps'' and then select welding vertices.
the bottom 2 boxes should be turned off.

so it should look the same as the image i showed.

once done, give it a name and export it as a 3DS format.

then, you should switch over to a more professional program like cinema 4d, 3ds max ect.
i will use cinema 4d for this, don't worry guys, i know not everyone has cinema 4d, but all basic techniques in those programs are the same.

once you opened your second 3d program (which is in my case cinema 4d) import or open your exported 3ds file.

in cinema 4d the result is a white boat with a red bottom, the black has been dissapeared, if not no worrys.



now were going to cut the ship in diffrent parts because of the textures.
VS is very easy to use because no textures, and only colors also works.

first of all, we need to reverse the faces, in these programs it can be called: reorient or reverse, maybe some other titles too as long as its reverses the faces, if not you should export the ship again in sketchup but this time you select the ship first and right mouse click and then reverse faces/normals and export it again.

ok, first select the faces which should be turned red, from the front or back view using a rectangle selection tool:


then, programs should have a split tool or detach tool, if you can find it detach the red bottom.
so you got 2 objects, the bottom, and the rest.

if you can't find a detach tool, then duplicate the ship so you have 2 models, in one model you delete the bottom, in the other model you delete everything exept the bottom.

then select all faces which has to be black, here is a easy way to do that since there is a deck inside the black faces, first select the whole black part:



and then pressing a deselect button and select all deck faces



then detach that part too as you did with the bottom.



then select all deck faces, and detach them too:




so, now you should have 4 models:

1. the top and walls
2. the decks
3. black hull
4. red hull/bottom

once you are done, go to the material editor and make 4 materials with diffrent colors
a black one, a dark red one, a beige one, and a grey one.

if the material editor works with slide numbers, then fill in these

black   - R12, G12, B12
red      - R198, G0, B0
beige   - R207, G139, B77
grey    - R196, G196, B196


apply the red to the bottom, the black to the middle hull, the beige to the decks, and the grey to the walls.

your boat should look like this:




texturing done, now scaling and moving
first, the ship is not exactly in the middle of the axis, so move it a bit to the side so that the kielline is equal to the center axis:

(watch the bottom, left side is not ok, right side is)


if that is done, go to the downloaded conv3ds from hangsim.com and go to boatsample>source and import the boat.3ds file into your current boat,
first rotate our model 90 degrees so that the bow of our ship points the same direction of the sailboat, then scale down the ship to the size you think it's good enaugh,
and delete everything related to the sailboat, so textures and models. WATCH OUT to keep the 4 textures we just made and the models of the ship we want to make.

finaly after scaling it should be a lot smaller then it was before:



then move the ship down and use the thick axis horizontal line as the waterline:



then export the model as Boat.3ds
and place it into the source folder in the conv3ds folder

then run the make.BAT and wait untill it's finished

in the folder new_boat copy the boat.X file only to a new folder inside the boats directory in VS
i called her ''Sketchtanic''

you can put one of these images as boat.bmp inside that folder for a preview image.


then open wordpad
and copy and paste this:

Quote
4
-1.15 18.1 -13.85
1.05086 18.1 -13.85
0.650078 14.6798 8.12327
1.09412 9.57078 -23.6826

save this as views.CFG (you must fill in CFG with capitalized letters, if not, wordpad will save it as a txt file, but it has to be a cfg file.

then refresh and copy and paste this:
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1      has_engine
0      has_sails
952.9      boat_lenght
0.0      boat_alt
0.111      cdf
75000000      mass
250.0              cross_section_sur
1.0      max_tilt
1.0      stability_factor
1170000.0      max_fuel_time
98836.0        motor_hp

0      bridge_x
32.672       bridge_y
35.205       bridge_z

0      helm_x
32.672       helm_y
35.205       helm_z

1      has_prop
1      has_rudder
1      attach_props

0      prop_x
-3      prop_y
-14      prop_z

0      prop2_x
-3      prop2_y
-14      prop2_z

45.7      rudder_x
0.45      rudder_y
-422      rudder_z

-45.7      rudder2_x
0.45      rudder2_y
-422      rudder2_z

0      radar_x
192.7      radar_y
314      radar_z


save this as boat.CFG


then refresh again and copy and paste this:

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6.5   [deck_alt]
0.0   0.0   [pos_width]
0.0   0.0   [pos_width]
0.0   0.0   [pos_width]
0.0   0.0   [pos_width]
0.0   0.0   [pos_width]
0.0   0.0   [pos_width]
0.0   0.0   [pos_width]
0.0   0.0   [pos_width]
0.0   0.0   [pos_width]
0.0   0.0   [pos_width]
0.0   0.0   [pos_width]

save this as deck.CFG

these files has to be placed inside your boat directory.
your ''sketchtanic'' directory should contain these files:

1.boat.X
2.deck.CFG
3.views.CFG
4.Boat.CFG

if you done it correct you should have this as the final result:





i hope this was helpfull to all of you  ;D ;)

good luck with your own models, and if you have any questions, surgestions or anything i have to add, you can tell it right here  ;)
« Last Edit: June 03, 2009, 13:14:32 by mr robville »
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MMMMMM

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Re: Tutorial, converting sketchup models to VS ships
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2008, 21:18:46 »

So this is only for sketchup pro not Normal sketch up
 
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Shipaddict

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Re: Tutorial, converting sketchup models to VS ships
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2008, 21:57:12 »

It seems that you need SU Pro to convert to a 3D model :(

Anyway, thanks Robville, this could be useful one day :)
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Mr Robville

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Re: Tutorial, converting sketchup models to VS ships
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2008, 07:41:23 »

well, you may try exporting with normal sketchup, but i wish you all luck in the world, because only pro can export, but like i said, if you know someone else who has sketchup pro, he can export it for you. ;)
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llamalord

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Re: Tutorial, converting sketchup models to VS ships
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2008, 20:37:25 »

I tried that once and my topic was locked... :police: :(

Then again that was before I had 1780 posts ;D
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Matty88

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Re: Tutorial, converting sketchup models to VS ships
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2009, 11:59:12 »


Hello my name's Matthew And i like titanic and i want to import the model from google sketchup in to virtual sailor
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firestar12

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Re: Tutorial, converting sketchup models to VS ships
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2009, 17:49:06 »

Hello my name's Matthew And i like titanic and i want to import the model from google sketchup in to virtual sailor
What model? Is it the off of the 3d warehouse? This one?: http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=4e7493658350320be7b7626ab2560c55&prevstart=0
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Mercator

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Re: Tutorial, converting sketchup models to VS ships
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2009, 19:23:53 »

Hello my name's Matthew And i like titanic and i want to import the model from google sketchup in to virtual sailor

that modell is already downloadable for the game.
i have had it but don't have it anymore after deleting the game

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Mr Robville

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Re: Tutorial, converting sketchup models to VS ships
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2009, 18:55:11 »

remember to ask for permission first from the real author, even it's freeware ;)
i doubt it if that ship works in VS, my 3d modelling tools do almost crash when loading that model.

btw a nice tip if you really want to export your file.
you can get sketchup pro free (not from pirate sites) by downloading sketchup pro from sketchup.google.com,
you will receive a EVAL version which can export 3ds files  ;D

thats legal and usefull  ;)
« Last Edit: February 02, 2009, 19:01:34 by mr robville »
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Matty88

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Re: Tutorial, converting sketchup models to VS ships
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2009, 13:41:57 »



Mercator
Where Can U download The Sketchup Titanic For Virtual Sailor?
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Mercator

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Re: Tutorial, converting sketchup models to VS ships
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2009, 16:25:30 »

i don't know for sketchup
only for Virtual Sailor at:
http://www.hangsim.com/vs/boats.php?dzone=hist

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Mr Robville

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Re: Tutorial, converting sketchup models to VS ships
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2009, 13:19:42 »

btw a importand note for free sketchup users,

you can download an EVAL version of sketchup pro for free, this version can export 3ds files. ;)
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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2009, 21:53:07 »

btw a importand note for free sketchup users,

you can download an EVAL version of sketchup pro for free, this version can export 3ds files. ;)
When you say EVAL do you mean EVIL or Illegal?
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Re: Tutorial, converting sketchup models to VS ships
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2009, 00:09:22 »

evaluation I think it is, a 30 day trial, not illegal.
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Re: Tutorial, converting sketchup models to VS ships
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2009, 00:10:09 »

Oh, I thought he had misspelled EVIL. Sorry.
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« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2009, 15:56:56 »

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to get either gskp7 or 6.
IM not responsibility for anything in this post.
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Re: Tutorial, converting sketchup models to VS ships
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2009, 16:12:50 »

Actually, you are responsible for anything that you post here.
And posting links to illegally obtain software, is strictly forbidden.

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Re: Tutorial, converting sketchup models to VS ships
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2009, 05:06:09 »

COULD SOMEBODY MAKE MY MODEL INTO A VS BOAT SO I CAN USE IT
here are the files
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« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2009, 05:47:10 »

Can someone put my T2 and Niagara Queen in VS for me? The are on the warehouse under my name titaniclover. (firestar got titanic lover which has a space, Mine is all one word.) I cannot put the the files on here as a attachment :'( Can someone do it for me? I tried but no go.
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Re: Tutorial, converting sketchup models to VS ships
« Reply #19 on: July 02, 2009, 06:04:35 »

Hi guys,

Your requests might have more succes on the actual VS forum. This is obviously not it.  ;D

http://hangsim.com/forums/index.php

They can help you much better, I reckon.

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Re: Tutorial, converting sketchup models to VS ships
« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2009, 18:42:02 »

Always nice to divert Traffic away from our home forum Fred... :doh:
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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2009, 19:12:01 »

We have too look after our little brethren too, you know..
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2009, 22:03:46 »

Do I dare to think if they have these say conversations only in reverse on the Virtual Sailor Forum.
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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2009, 22:59:54 »

In the same lightheared fashion? Yeah sure. They are really kind there, and most share the same 'to each his own' feeling. No worries.
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