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RMSGreatBritain

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What is the greatest ocean liner?
« on: October 18, 2008, 19:34:27 »

For Over 150 years, ocean liners have been gracing the high seas. From Brittania and Great Britain, To Mauretania and Titanic, Queen Mary and Normandie, The QE2 and France, and now the RMS Queen Mary 2, Ocean liners have evolved in a spectacular way. Ofcourse I think the two greatest ocean liners are the Incredible SS Normandie and the Ultimatum of liners which is the Queen Mary 2. But I wanted to know, what do you think is the greatest ocean liner? Because that is a debate that us ship enthusiasts have always been having, so i want to know what you think.

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Shipaddict

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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2008, 20:45:46 »

QE2!

QM2!

Both beautifal ships (sorry for my spelling!) :)
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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2008, 20:52:49 »

titanic and qm2 fore me lol  :)
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Jayshum

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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2008, 03:32:01 »

QE2.
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bbydino05

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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2008, 03:37:30 »

my two would be the titanic and teh s.s. united states because the ss still holds teh faster eastern trans-atlantic crossing at 43 kn
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Agent|Austin

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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2008, 03:51:11 »

All of the past and current liners are great. I can not chose one particularly because I respect each vessel in its own unique ways. There is no vessel that I "hate" but their are some that some people love way to much. I believe that vessels should all get respect and that no single vessel should be chosen as the best. Each vessel is unique and each vessel is good. I don't think that you could go on any ocean liner sail for 7 days and say the ship was a disappointment.
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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2008, 12:37:35 »

For Classics, I like the SS Rotterdam and the HMHS Britannic (However the Britannic was never actually used as a liner).

Modern ships, i'm a fan of the RMS Queen Mary 2 and the (modernish) QE2 of Cunard.
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RMS Canada

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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2008, 21:54:37 »

Titanic, but mostly all the greatest ocean liners of the world.
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RMSGreatBritain

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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2008, 18:55:01 »

I still think the 2 Queen Marys and the Normandie, the Normandie was the most beautiful ship ever.
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RMS Canada

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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2008, 17:50:31 »

As far as I know, the QM2 is a cruise ship, not truly an ocean liner. 
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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2008, 18:02:55 »

I disagreee.
She may have been built to suit cruises, but she still in my opinion is a genuine liner. Not the fastest, but she has a thick hull and the hull is also designed to take whatever the Atlantic has in store.

I read that a mini hull was made and tested in tank with waves to scale. Even in simulated hurricane winds, no water came over the bow.

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RMSGreatBritain

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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2008, 19:19:23 »

Yeah, the QM2 is a superb ocean liner that can do cruises aswell
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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2008, 01:06:36 »

Yeap, agreed QM2 hull is shaped like a pure transatlantic liner.
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RMS Gigantic

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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2008, 01:25:38 »

Modern ocean liners have every room identical.

Titanic did not have this, issue, however, as every room was done by hand in a different style than those adjacent to it with only 1 exception!

Titanic has my vote.
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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2008, 01:37:06 »

Titanic has my vote.

Heh.. I kinda, sort of, somehow, for one reason or the other, surprisingly suspected she'd get your vote.   ;D
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RMS Canada

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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2008, 17:50:47 »

I disagreee.
She may have been built to suit cruises, but she still in my opinion is a genuine liner. Not the fastest, but she has a thick hull and the hull is also designed to take whatever the Atlantic has in store.

I read that a mini hull was made and tested in tank with waves to scale. Even in simulated hurricane winds, no water came over the bow.

SA

What?  You got to be kidding...
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RMSGreatBritain

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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2008, 17:59:54 »

What?  You got to be kidding...

Well some water did come on the bow, but was forced away by the breakwater thing on the bow, so no water hit the forecastle.
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RMS Canada

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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2008, 18:03:17 »

Well some water did come on the bow, but was forced away by the breakwater thing on the bow, so no water hit the forecastle.

A true ocean liner would have the orange and black funnels and more than one, like the Queen Mary or the Titanic.  And besides, to me the QM2 looks more like a cruise ship.   
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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2008, 18:11:49 »

 There is a simple answer to this topic.

LA NORMANDIE!


Patrick,
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RMSGreatBritain

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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2008, 18:45:49 »

There is a simple answer to this topic.

LA NORMANDIE!


Patrick,


Oh the Normandie, pure perfection
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RMS Gigantic

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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2008, 02:32:26 »

A true ocean liner would have the orange and black funnels and more than one, like the Queen Mary or the Titanic.  And besides, to me the QM2 looks more like a cruise ship.   
The Queen Mary had more of a red color to her funnels, as she was a Cunard ship.

Also, Titanic's funnels were not orange, either. They were a unigue shade of buff, known as White Star Buff, as it was unique to the funnels of the ships of White Star Line.
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RMS Canada

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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2008, 17:51:10 »

The Queen Mary had more of a red color to her funnels, as she was a Cunard ship.

Also, Titanic's funnels were not orange, either. They were a unigue shade of buff, known as White Star Buff, as it was unique to the funnels of the ships of White Star Line.

Well, they look orange to me. 
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RMS Gigantic

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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2008, 01:46:35 »

Well, they look orange to me. 
You shouldn't judge a color by how it LOOKS, you should judge it by what it IS.

You should know about White Star Buff if you are a Titanic expert.
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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2008, 12:42:17 »

my two would be the titanic and teh s.s. united states because the ss still holds teh faster eastern trans-atlantic crossing at 43 kn

That is not correct.
There allready are ships who did it faster eastbound. the Cat link V with 41.3 knots.
And its speed was 35 knots, not 43 knots.

But she still holds the record for westbound with 34 knots.


My vote goes to Queen Elizabeth 2.
I just love that look between modern and classic.

And, it is from the same period as my favourite car, the '67 mustang ;)
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Jayshum

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Re: What is the greatest ocean liner?
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2008, 17:33:16 »

I honestly can't respect, or accept the so-called 'liners' of today (QM2, QV, the P&O ships, not to mention nearly every other cruise ship afloat nowadays). Everything now has to be BIG, and commercial (same as everything else), but there's no comparison between the liners of old, and the ones of today.

My favourite is the QE2. As Sam said above me, the mix of modern and classic lines are just gorgeous. Her funnel (although added later) is something I view in the same way as a crown. I can't put into words why she's my pick, but you can see how her designers went for function and came out with not only that, but a lot of style as well. Just as a random thing, I view Concorde in the same light as well. The late 60's produced many great things (Steely Dan is something I'd add to this list ;)), but in terms of monolithic vehicles of the era, the QE2 exemplifies it for me.
In contrast the QM2 is just a hulking-big, run-of-the-mill Carnival ship with the QE2's bow, and a really poor attempt at copying the QE2's funnel. I also wouldn't like to go to see with nearly 3000 strangers, and I'd hate my room/balcony to look like something from a cheap Spanish package holiday. I don't mean to appear holier-than-thou here, I'd just expect something better from Cunard considering how expensive their cruises are. To sum up, I feel it's a shame that with all the amazing technology we have today, it has seemingly been more of a hindrance to ship-designers, rather than a gift.

As for the old liners, they're obviously all beautiful, but they all show their age nowadays. The QE2 in my opinion is timeless (same as Concorde, same as Steely Dan, etc etc). T'is just my opinion though!
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