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Sting

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Harbor Tug: Push or only tow?
« on: September 28, 2007, 16:11:18 »

For berthing operations, can harbor tug push at the "tug" label on side of a containership? Seems that they're designed for towing only?  Thanks
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Bottman

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Re: Harbor Tug: Push or only tow?
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2007, 17:24:25 »

Well, to be honest, there is no other way to use the small tug in that case. It's too weak to tow the VERMAAS, so pushing seems to be the only useful way to assist berthing.

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Sting

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Re: Harbor Tug: Push or only tow?
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2007, 21:31:47 »

True, the tug practically sinks towing.  But I don't see much push power.  Must you line up at the TUG sign on side of containership?
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Bottman

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Re: Harbor Tug: Push or only tow?
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2007, 09:39:06 »

No! With this little power it's quite useless to follow the tug signs.

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Eemspoort

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Re: Harbor Tug: Push or only tow?
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2007, 13:50:54 »

We simply need a set of these, to handle the big ships in SS. ;D







These 3 tugs work together to handle big ships in the ports of Bremen. I see them every time i'm in Bremen. The captains are very skilled, and it's allways nice to see them work. :D
I don't know, how much HP they have, but i do know, they have Voith-Schneider Propellors, and they are pretty strong. 8)
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Re: Harbor Tug: Push or only tow?
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2007, 13:59:12 »

Nice! I thought the first one was called Groan! :o
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Re: Harbor Tug: Push or only tow?
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2007, 16:31:31 »

And I'm sure, that such a vessel is under construction... ;)

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Sam

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Re: Harbor Tug: Push or only tow?
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2007, 17:26:41 »

Can you be a little les subtile? ;D

So we finally are getting a VSP tug  8)
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Eemspoort

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Re: Harbor Tug: Push or only tow?
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2007, 17:44:53 »

And I'm sure, that such a vessel is under construction... ;)

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That's good to hear,mate! Because with these kind of tugs it's good fun handling big ships. ;D
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76,2 x 8,20 x 2,72 mtr, 1085 ton
Deutz RBV 6 M 545, 800 HP @ 380 rpm
Daf KMD 250.2, 250 HP @ 1800 rpm, bowthruster

Bottman

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Re: Harbor Tug: Push or only tow?
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2007, 17:45:41 »

We simply need a set of these, to handle the big ships in SS. ;D

These 3 tugs work together to handle big ships in the ports of Bremen. I see them every time i'm in Bremen. The captains are very skilled, and it's allways nice to see them work. :D
I don't know, how much HP they have, but i do know, they have Voith-Schneider Propellors, and they are pretty strong. 8)

Yes, the latter has VSP propulsors with a total amount of 2720 HP, enough for 12 knots and a bollard pull of 31 t, what's not so much nowadays. And yes, we should have a powerful, azimuth driven tug, but I don't know exactly which and when.. ;)

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Re: Harbor Tug: Push or only tow?
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2007, 17:51:20 »

Are you talking about the Grohn and sisters, when you say, 2720 HP totall??
Because that ain't much! But they work miracles with those ships! I love them, and that's why i've taken these as an example. ;D
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1961, Hilgers A.G.-Rheinbröhl
76,2 x 8,20 x 2,72 mtr, 1085 ton
Deutz RBV 6 M 545, 800 HP @ 380 rpm
Daf KMD 250.2, 250 HP @ 1800 rpm, bowthruster

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Re: Harbor Tug: Push or only tow?
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2007, 17:59:56 »

Nope, the data is just guilty for the Bugsier tug "Stier". The latest tugs from that company, build at Shipyard K. Damen Europe (NL), are twice that powerful! But I agree, it is amazing how skilful their masters are with them. In Hamburg they show a so-called tug ballet every year at the harbours birthday in early May.

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Re: Harbor Tug: Push or only tow?
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2007, 18:30:07 »

Wow, that must be cool!
But i thought, the Stier, Grohn and Blumentahl are sister-ships? They do look-a-like!
Oh well, doesn't matter.  ;)
Oh, and i see a tug-ballet every time i'm in Bremen! ;D Only they have a kinda big dance-partner with them. :P ;)
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1961, Hilgers A.G.-Rheinbröhl
76,2 x 8,20 x 2,72 mtr, 1085 ton
Deutz RBV 6 M 545, 800 HP @ 380 rpm
Daf KMD 250.2, 250 HP @ 1800 rpm, bowthruster

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Re: Harbor Tug: Push or only tow?
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2007, 18:37:10 »

Well, the tugs are towing bigger vessels as well in Hamburg! But in front of almost 500.000 anniversary guests a few of them are dancing to a waltz simultaniously! The whole area in front of the floating ferry terminal of St. Pauli is closed for the other traffic...

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joelski

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Re: Harbor Tug: Push or only tow?
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2007, 19:37:22 »

hm nice, here in Nijmegen (Netherlands) [Gelderland] its just ships floating  past, and when i am at my brother in Rotterdam (Netherlands), i see lots of ships, and its cool that i was in port of Rotterdam, floating with a vessel, not for real, but it gives a feeling :p.
And i really love the harbours from Rotterdam, its so intresting, thats something else than in my home playing SS08 :P
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Re: Harbor Tug: Push or only tow?
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2007, 20:50:55 »

I’d certainly like to see a powerful VWT like the Nanuq, but she might be overkill for harbors. She and her sister were designed for tanker escort in fairly open waters and terminals like Valdez.
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,2550.msg28534.html#msg28534
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