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Title: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: Person264 on August 04, 2008, 16:15:50
I was playing around setting the weather up for a storm in the med, and I was in the Ocean Star when I notcied something annoying about it. The sports net thing doesn't change whatever the weather. So even if it is full storm it is still visible even when the rest of the ship isn't. Also, I know this has been mentioned before, but the pools look weird, don't pools normally have underwater lights or something? Oh yeah, and the rain stops at eye level in walkabout and goes inside the ship in outside views. Asides from that a great game.
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: rich84 on August 04, 2008, 18:24:20
The rains been like that since day one & it`s one bug that really should be fixed
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: mvsmith on August 04, 2008, 18:28:22
Hi mensch264,
As explained before, rain stops at the horizon for the same reason that the sky stops at the horizon. The two-dimensional rain curtain is on the bottom layer in helm or walkabout view. In external views, the rain curtain is in the foreground—top layer—and will follow you inside.
Placing it anywhere else, for added realism, would put it in 3D territory where it would have to be treated as a very large animated 3D object.
The sports net was probably added as an afterthought and ended up in the top layer.
Regards,
Marty
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: Person264 on August 05, 2008, 13:39:43
Ok just wondering, the main annoying thing is the net, could get used to the rain seeing as you would need much more computing power for 3d rain but the net is annoying for realism. By the way I'm not dutch, it's Person264 not Mench264 hehe
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: Aad The Pirate on August 05, 2008, 14:43:52
Ok just wondering, the main annoying thing is the net, could get used to the rain seeing as you would need much more computing power for 3d rain but the net is annoying for realism. By the way I'm not dutch, it's Person264 not Mench264 hehe
Ahoy person264
And MENSCH isn't Dutch :o, but German ;D :D :) ;)
Regards
Aad
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: mvsmith on August 05, 2008, 15:51:26
In the US it’s a common Jewish usage meaning a person of character, as in “Be a mensch!”
Marty
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: TerryRussell on August 05, 2008, 16:03:45
Hi Person264.

I just spoke to my wife, who in her younger days was a Nanny for a Jewish Household in Brooklyn and she said that Mensch means a "dependable person, a good guy".
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: Person264 on August 05, 2008, 19:05:05
Ok, interesting. I was going to put "I'm not German" but i changed it cos the first way you spelt it mench and not mensch. I recognised it as german cos i know the word menschliche so i though mench was dutch cos they are similar languages i think? That's interesting about the Jewish saying, seeing as Germans and the Jewish community didn't get along very well a while ago. <- Trying to be as unoffensive as possible
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: The Captain on August 05, 2008, 19:10:28
That's interesting about the Jewish saying, seeing as Germans and the Jewish community didn't get along very well a while ago. <- Trying to be as unoffensive as possible

Well, I am not going to say that the germans and us don't get along. We just arent exited to see eachother ;D. I am though, I really want to go to germany, but my mother forbids it ;D. I think she forbids it because she doesn't want to go to Europe anyway ;D.
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: mvsmith on August 05, 2008, 21:00:35
Much of the immigration into New York in the 19th and early 20th centuries was from Eastern Europe, principally Ashkenazi, so the dialect (actually a true language) that is usually called Yiddish contained many German words as well as Russian and Slavic. Many bits of that language were adopted by the other cultures thrown together in that city, and have spread throughout the US.
Marty
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: TerryRussell on August 05, 2008, 21:50:43
In a similar way, some Cockney (East London) words have their origins in Yiddish. The East End of London and especially around the City of London (where the head of offices of multinational banks are situated these days) had and still has a thriving Jewish community. Over the years, Cockneys picked up the words and incorporated them into the rhyming slang and many have since migrated into everyday English use.

Because I tend to speak Sockney ("South of  the River Cockney"), I use odd bits of Cockney in my everyday language. So, I will say to my wife things like "That's put the Kibosh on that!". Or "No, we can't buy that. I don't have any dosh on me at the moment".

Dosh, comes from the French for bundle, which became Elizabethan English in the word "doss" (A straw bed"). From there it went to the USA in the form of "Doss House", being a very cheap lodgings. After that it returned to the UK in probably the 1880s and was then re-Cocknied and its meaning modified to mean money.

I will also say "No, we can't buy that. I don't have the spondulicks on me". But that's from the ancient Greek.

http://www.businessballs.com/moneyslanghistory.htm
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: The Captain on August 05, 2008, 23:46:18
Another common saying in Yiddish is" Awh, you have smutch on your face". Smutch is like saying you have a little stain or a bit of dirt on your face ;D.
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: mvsmith on August 06, 2008, 00:24:43
I stand in awe of Terry’s ability to be a cheapskate in seven languages. :)
Marty

Cap’n, I would not dare to attempt that for fear of a slip of the tongue. :)
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: Capt. Le Velle on August 06, 2008, 04:11:18
its getting a little off topic dont you think
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: The Captain on August 06, 2008, 15:54:35
Yes, it is :(. It seems as though we have drifted from the topic because the topic is solved. It would appear that way anyway.


Cap’n, I would not dare to attempt that for fear of a slip of the tongue. :)

Hey Marty, what do you mean by that? That you might pronounce it wrong?

That is the first time on the forum that I have ever seen you use a smiley ;D ;D ;D! Congrats ;D!
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: mvsmith on August 06, 2008, 16:47:07
Hi Cap’n
I tend not to use smileys because one can become dependent upon them in face-to-face conversation where pasting a big yellow one on your forehead may not save you from eating a knuckle sandwich.
Regards,
Marty
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: Denis on August 06, 2008, 17:33:45
Hi Cap’n
I tend not to use smileys because one can become dependent upon them in face-to-face conversation where pasting a big yellow one on your forehead may not save you from eating a knuckle sandwich.
Regards,
Marty

Hi Marty ! What you wrote amazes me ... Smileys have been invented because of the lack of expressions when writing (chat or forum), oposed to the facial expressions you have in a face-to-face conversation ...

Shall we understand that, when you're talking with someone face-to-face, you stay absolutely rigid, to avoid any expression ?  ;D
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: mvsmith on August 06, 2008, 18:00:28
Of course not.
I sometimes worry that the use of a smiley may be perceived as somewhat insulting—implying, perhaps, that one does not consider the recipient to be bright enough to sense when one is being facetious.
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: TerryRussell on August 06, 2008, 18:13:13
As you know  ;D, I NEVER  :o use smilies.  ???

That's because  :-\ these stupid little  8) yellow icons keep  :( gettng in the way.  ;D

But then, I also take the view  :P that this is a fun-filled game  ;D and we shouldn't take anything too seriously  >:(, except if Titanic has the wrong number  :-\ of septagonal-headed bolts on the left-hand  :'( door in the boiler room.  ;D That of course is so dreadful that it  ;D makes the issue about the   :'( windows in the Pride  :D of Rotterdam   8) look miniscule, despite the fact  :) that the very   :-[ existence of nations hinges   >:( on that. (Or do they  :-X  hinge on the way the bow door doesn't open?  ??? I get confused easily).  ;D
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: mvsmith on August 06, 2008, 18:36:58
You have made your point quite eloquently, Terry.
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: TerryRussell on August 06, 2008, 19:20:22
My eyes are spinning after that pervious post.
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: The Captain on August 07, 2008, 02:38:02
Agreed ;D. Notice how I only put smilleys after a sentence ;). I don't think it gets caught up with everything, since I try to be organized.

Hi Cap’n
I tend not to use smileys because one can become dependent upon them in face-to-face conversation where pasting a big yellow one on your forehead may not save you from eating a knuckle sandwich.
Regards,
Marty



You mean that you fear that you would use them in a face to face conversation ;D? I doubt that anyone has ever done that exept for the following smileys: :) :D :( :-[ :-\ :'(. I have never actually had ;D as a facial expression ;D.


Of course not.
I sometimes worry that the use of a smiley may be perceived as somewhat insulting—implying, perhaps, that one does not consider the recipient to be bright enough to sense when one is being facetious.



Well, having smileys gives one an idea of anothers expression. In my opinion, not posting smileys from time to time implys that the"recipient" is not at all happy :(. Of course you do not have to post them all the time, but it gives people an idea of how you are feeling ;).
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: TerryRussell on August 07, 2008, 18:48:12
Sometimes you have to look just behind Marty's words to see the extremely amusing humour that lies there.

 ;D
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: The Captain on August 07, 2008, 23:57:59
Well, I really would like to see that ;D!
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: mvsmith on August 08, 2008, 00:12:47
Sorry, I only write in 2D, so you can’t see behind my words.
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: The Captain on August 08, 2008, 00:27:44
Mister smith, the only thing making me know you have a sence of humor, is that you have the cookie monster as an avatar ;D ;D ;D ;D.
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: Capt. Le Velle on August 08, 2008, 00:31:30
i can see behind 2D words its plain white on the back
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: The Captain on August 08, 2008, 00:56:13
Ohh, now I get it ;D. Usually when a ;D is put in a sentence it means that there is a joke involved. Or, in my case, it means that I have a really big smirk on my face ;D.
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: mvsmith on August 08, 2008, 01:09:59
the only thing making me know you have a sence of humor, is that you have the cookie monster as an avatar ;D ;D ;D ;D.

My friend, for whom I’m the 24/7 caregiver, watches Sesame Street and the other PBS Kids shows daily. She is 14 years into Alzheimer’s, and gets confused. There is a character that she insists upon calling “Mad Fred”, although there is only a superficial resemblance.
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: TerryRussell on August 08, 2008, 06:51:04
Sorry, I only write in 2D, so you can’t see behind my words.

They appear at least five dimensional to me. I looked up and down until I got to the bottom of this, but at the top of it all there was a set of equations that prove this to be the charming truth, strangely.

Trust me. I know. I was at one time a member of the Department of Freshly Originated Transparent Carbonated Carbuncles.

What? You've never head of that?

Surely everyone has heard of it?
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: The Captain on August 09, 2008, 16:06:33
My friend, for whom I’m the 24/7 caregiver, watches Sesame Street and the other PBS Kids shows daily. She is 14 years into Alzheimer’s, and gets confused. There is a character that she insists upon calling “Mad Fred”, although there is only a superficial resemblance.

Ohh. Thats why. Who is "she"? You did not quite explain that bit ???.
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: TerryRussell on August 09, 2008, 16:13:54
I think Marty said very clearly who "she" is, didn't he? He said:

Quote
My friend, for whom I’m the 24/7 caregiver,...

Did you want her Social Security number or something?  ;D
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: The Captain on August 09, 2008, 16:20:22
Ohh, I did not know he was refering to his friend. Me, or the girl ;D.
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: mvsmith on August 09, 2008, 16:37:35
Who is "she"? You did not quite explain that bit ???.

At 80, Joyce—“the girl”—is probably a bit old for you. Sorry
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: The Captain on August 09, 2008, 16:39:49
Ohh, that explains a lot :o.
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: Dave M on August 10, 2008, 02:17:28
They appear at least five dimensional to me. I looked up and down until I got to the bottom of this, but at the top of it all there was a set of equations that prove this to be the charming truth, strangely.

Trust me. I know. I was at one time a member of the Department of Freshly Originated Transparent Carbonated Carbuncles.

What? You've never head of that?

Surely everyone has heard of it?

Hi Terry,
During my mis-spent life, (mis-spent but enjoyable  :) ), I have picked up some little bits of knowledge/ignorance.
Charm and Strange attraction, (or was that a film? [Reference the Sig.] ), ring a bell. But the DFOTCC ?

Can you let me know what it means, even if it has to be by PM.  ???

Regards, Dave
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: mvsmith on August 10, 2008, 02:37:14
Dave,
Terry should never have mentioned the DFOTCC, and is about to lose his clearance and his secret decoder ring.
Marty
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: Dave M on August 10, 2008, 03:03:51
Hi Marty,
Lets not be hasty, I'm sure that there is some way to save Terry's ring, (and security clearance as well).
Maybe we could warp him back to 2006 and then he would never have made 'that' comment, and the next time that we would hear from him would be on the SS06 board.  ;D

Regards, Dave
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: Capt. Le Velle on August 10, 2008, 05:53:12
terry is a super hero he can see 2d stuff in 5d.  I can only see in 3d
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: TerryRussell on August 10, 2008, 08:48:49
Department of Freshly Originated Transparent Carbonated Carbuncles

Department of New Clear Fizzy Cysts.

(Nuclear Physicists?)

Get it? No? Oh. Just me, then.

PS. Top, Bottom, Up, Down etc are all properties of Quarks, I didn't mention their colours in case of confusion amongst the lower ranks. Strangeness, Charm, Truth & Beauty have all been used to describe aspects of their properties at some stage.

See  how many physical high-energy jokes you can fit into a short paragraph! That was a 12 dimensional joke, brought to you by the makers of QarkCleen, thew easy way to polish those elusive critters. Buy a can today.
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: mvsmith on August 10, 2008, 12:25:19
Murray Gell-Mann has written an excellent book explaining Terry’s digressions into quantum electrodynamics in terms of its relation to the habits of the jaguar.
For those whose experience with feline behavior is limited to pussycats, Erwin Schrödinger has come up with a shorter treatise, which however, has generated protests from some militant members of the ASPCA.
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: TerryRussell on August 10, 2008, 13:15:05
Currently my cat Suzie is performing an experiment involving some radioactive material and a man called Erwin in a small box.

She won't tell me the outcome, although she alludes to a cloud of potentials, each with its own probabability. She has also written a thesis in which she says that she is strangely beautiful. Right now, she is alseep, probably dreaming of catching mice.
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: Dave M on August 10, 2008, 21:22:09
Hi Terry, I snuck into your place and took a photo of your cat doing her experiment.
It looks as if she has invented a new mouse trap and whilst she is waiting for a wave of mice to arrive, she is listening to the radio.

I think schrodinger got it wrong by using cats as an analogy, their states are [asleep] and [awake].
Their normal state is [asleep].
Their master slave or stranger enemy is within their zone. [Awake]
Master slave will then give them treats/food and attention, (if not enough attention/treats/food then they will shred your legs/nylons/tights/trousers and go back to sleep.
Stranger enemy. See whether any treats/food/attention are available. Shred anything they can reach anyway and go back to sleep.  ;D

Regards, Dave
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: TerryRussell on August 10, 2008, 22:34:18
Don't forget the cat/door experiment.

Cat waits at door and demands to be let out.
Simultaneously, cat is outside demanding to be let in.
Whether you let cat out or cat in, it is on the wrong side and demands for original state to be restored.
Upon restoration, that is also incorrect and cat demands for last state to be restored.
Upon restoration, that is also incorrect and cat demands for last state to be restored.
Upon restoration, that is also incorrect and cat demands for last state to be restored.
Upon restoration, that is also incorrect and cat demands for last state to be restored. etc.
Therefore the true states of cat are in and out and can exist simulatneously.
It is not possible to determine which state the cat is in, nor which it wants to become.
This is the uncertainty principle proven as fact.
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: Dave M on August 11, 2008, 23:13:56
Hi Terry,
Groan!!
It has taken me a day and a half to figure out that 'Freshly originated' [New], 'Transparent' [Clear], 'Carbonated' [Fizzy], 'Carbuncle' [Cyst], joke of yours.

Do you think that this is a sign of my advancing years? or maybe my mis-spent life?

I used to have an IQ of 139, I think you can knock off  the 1 now and it would be more realistic.  :-[

Regards, Dave
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: Dave M on August 11, 2008, 23:24:47
Don't forget the cat/door experiment.

This is the uncertainty principle proven as fact.

Hi Terry,
I thought that the uncertainty principle had already been proven by 'MicroSoft'.

Man wants to do something, Computer says no.
Computer wants to do something, Man says no.
So the Man is not in charge of his Computer and sulks. Computer sulks

=BSOD= not one state or the other.  ;)

Regards, Dave
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: TerryRussell on August 11, 2008, 23:30:28
Hi Terry,
Groan!!
It has taken me a day and a half to figure out that 'Freshly originated' [New], 'Transparent' [Clear], 'Carbonated' [Fizzy], 'Carbuncle' [Cyst], joke of yours.

Do you think that this is a sign of my advancing years? or maybe my mis-spent life?

I used to have an IQ of 139, I think you can knock off  the 1 now and it would be more realistic.  :-[

Regards, Dave

Considering that was an the cuff joke, I was quite impressed when I read it.

I joined Mensa when I was a kid, but that was solely to meet Isaac Azimov when he came to the UK the one time. It was a thrilling experience for him. I was suitably unmoved. We did correspond for many years until his death, when unexplicably he stopped writing to me.

Hi Terry,
I thought that the uncertainty principle had already been proven by 'MicroSoft'.

Man wants to do something, Computer says no.
Computer wants to do something, Man says no.
So the Man is not in charge of his Computer and sulks. Computer sulks

=BSOD= not one state or the other.  ;)

Regards, Dave

Hmmm... I thought Microsoft's state was very determinant. Isn't it "overpriced" charge coupled with "untrustworthy"?

I don't think the uncertainty principle applies fully here. You know that it will crash. The only indeterminant is when.
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: Dave M on August 12, 2008, 00:14:59
Hi Terry,
I was only a couple of points over Mensa's limit and the only test I took was the unsupervised one. There was a teacher/tutor strike on at the time, (mid 1970s), and the only places they could provide, (with an envigilator, (I think i might have spelt that wrong)), were too far away. The main thing that put me off after that was that Mensa kept sending me letters telling me that I could not fail, no matter what my score was?

Isaac Asimov, I am impressed. I love Science Fiction and have read the Foundation series, wasn't there a follow up to that? Foundation and ?

All of that was some years ago. I have had some fun since then and sacrificed a few brain cells. ;)

Regards, Dave
Title: Re: Something annoying on the Ocean Star
Post by: TerryRussell on August 12, 2008, 10:23:44
I'm a great fan of "Golden Age" Science Fiction. Star Trek is very much from that genre. Not many people are aware that Azimov played a substantial role in the concepts and writings.

"Live Long and Fester". Or something....