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Title: Bye Bye
Post by: Paddy134 on June 19, 2008, 14:01:55
I'm leaving the shisim forums  :( mainly because i don't like the community anymore, and I can now make an account on the VS forums. Bye :D
 
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 19, 2008, 14:02:29
ok what is wrong with us or it ir the game
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Paddy134 on June 19, 2008, 14:04:32
ok what is wrong with us or it ir the game

the community, and there is too much protocol, well the same as any other forum but it is enforced too fanatically.
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 19, 2008, 14:08:36
well hope you have a good time with vs allthough i have ship sim and so would say it is the better one of the two realy you cannont beat vs for the range of ships and ports they have well hope you do well bye
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: [RWP]DJM on June 19, 2008, 14:11:30
Hiya Paddy134 :)

It's a real shame to know that we're losing a member, is there anything we can help with?  Maybe you would change your mind :)

Regards.

Carl.
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: saltydog on June 19, 2008, 14:17:13
Too bad Paddy, but good luck on the VS forums..
Undoubtedly we'll see you in MP sometime..

Happy sailing.. ;)
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: IRI5HJ4CK on June 19, 2008, 15:53:08
ohhhhh your the only guy that can speak some Irish around here haha, we need you! :D ;D

I mean, its up to you but its a shame that you want to leave.

Just remember the friends you have here, like me :)

Jack.
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Shipaddict on June 19, 2008, 16:07:51
I will miss you to :(

Your SS videos are the best under DJM :)
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Minime on June 19, 2008, 17:07:31
Well it's your own choise, what a shame that you are going.
Hope you had a good time while being here.
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Jango on June 19, 2008, 17:26:07
well hope you had  good time here.
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Captain Best on June 19, 2008, 19:15:45
Plz dont leave this forum. its the best. but if you still dont wanna be here. Have a good time contunie ;D
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: JHB on June 22, 2008, 14:22:25
Well, hope you enjoy your stay at the new VS forum because the old salts is already up to something (http://www.hangsim.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=81).
It may look kind and pleasant there in the beginning but I have a strange feeling that this will change.
Anyway it's your choice so good luck! ;)
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Paddy134 on June 22, 2008, 18:14:57
 :o How dare they! if that was anyother other forum they wouldn't have any problems with new members! How conservative!
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 22, 2008, 18:20:56
havent you left yet  :D only jokeing
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: saltydog on June 22, 2008, 18:21:35
are you pulling our leg, Paddy..?  :D
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Paddy134 on June 22, 2008, 18:23:40
no, rob is putting a ship of mine onto VS and i was just checking my PM's
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: saltydog on June 22, 2008, 18:25:23
sure you were.. ;)  just remember you're allways welcome here... :)
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Paddy134 on June 22, 2008, 18:26:17
Haha thanks ;)
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Minime on June 22, 2008, 18:55:02
can't you just be on both forums, we all love seeing your great model, and it's very sad too say goodbye to a welknown forum member
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Captain Best on June 22, 2008, 18:58:21
can't you just be on both forums, we all love seeing your great model, and it's very sad too say goodbye to a welknown forum member
yes a tottaly great ide. stay here and use the other site. you are so fantasic with your models. Plz Stay here ;)
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Agent|Austin on June 22, 2008, 19:13:07
 :-[

Bye. I won't try changing your mind, since I don't hardly know you. But you contributed here.  :)
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Ship Sim on June 23, 2008, 05:33:09
Good luck over there. Lets hope they accept you. They didnt accept goax from what I remember when he posted abought his model of that bulker. ;)
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 23, 2008, 05:45:37
I don't understand the reasoning. It's like selling a mansion to live in a cardboard box.
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Ship Sim on June 23, 2008, 05:54:48
I don't understand the reasoning. It's like selling a mansion to live in a cardboard box.
Mansion could have termites, bad neigbors, goasts, Spend to much money and hace to sell your mansion. ;) :D
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 23, 2008, 06:04:04
Mansion could have termites, bad neigbors, goasts, Spend to much money and hace to sell your mansion. ;) :D
I mean why would you go down to the bottom of the naval simulator grapevine when you have a position so high up?
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Ship Sim on June 23, 2008, 06:06:01
I mean why would you go down to the bottom of the naval simulator grapevine when you have a position so high up?
Ahh no. id not. Had Vs and got board with is. :D
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 23, 2008, 06:12:27
Ahh no. id not. Had Vs and got board with is. :D
But why is Paddy 134?
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: JHB on June 23, 2008, 06:54:48
But why is Paddy 134?

Not if they was converted into 3DS-file and VSTEP made the textures for it. :)
The only issue with SU is that it has no unwrap UVW function that is critical for making texture maps.
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 23, 2008, 08:27:07
Not if they was converted into 3DS-file and VSTEP made the textures for it. :)
The only issue with SU is that it has no unwrap UVW function that is critical for making texture maps.
But why leave ShipSim? Especially for VS? VS contains the worst ship models I've ever seen!
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 23, 2008, 09:07:00
maybe vstep said no to adding his ship and so he is moving and not all vs ships are rubbish some look finly detailed
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 23, 2008, 09:44:03
maybe vstep said no to adding his ship and so he is moving and not all vs ships are rubbish some look finly detailed
But the vast majority is junk! The image of their Titanic still haunts me today!
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 23, 2008, 09:45:51
yes i have seen it and it is rubbish but one or 2 good ships have made it in there
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 23, 2008, 09:46:42
yes i have seen it and it is rubbish but one or 2 good ships have made it in there
Out of who knows how many.
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: JHB on June 23, 2008, 11:14:22
(http://shipaddons.com/vs/qm2large.jpg) (http://shipaddons.com/vs/qm2large.jpg)

yeah it's rubbish...(saken) :P
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 23, 2008, 13:01:42
This makes me want to cry :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nqCvtP4A3-I (http://youtube.com/watch?v=nqCvtP4A3-I)

*begins sobbing uncontollably*

WHY?! WHY?!
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Captain Best on June 23, 2008, 13:13:18
This makes me want to cry :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nqCvtP4A3-I (http://youtube.com/watch?v=nqCvtP4A3-I)

*begins sobbing uncontollably*

WHY?! WHY?!
hehe. heres a roll of paper  :D
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 23, 2008, 13:22:37
hehe. heres a roll of paper  :D
good. I can use this to record the massive list of errors on this rendering.

Lack of vents
Cargo Hatch No. 1 is missing slanted front and everything on it
no planks on wooden deck
Morse lamps and navigation lamps are missing from the overly tall wing cabs
certain windows are missing
aft grand staircase skylight was moved to the roof of the recipricating engine room
recipricating engine room incorrectly has windows
no benches
lack of cranes
lack of stairs
2nd class staircase is poorly rendered
"Titanic" and "Liverpool" should be yellow and not white
Well deck ventilators are missing....

I ran out of paper, could you give me another roll?
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 23, 2008, 14:05:12
(http://shipaddons.com/vs/qm2large.jpg) (http://shipaddons.com/vs/qm2large.jpg)

yeah it's rubbish...(saken) :P

i think this model is one of the better ones from vs
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 23, 2008, 14:06:22
good. I can use this to record the massive list of errors on this rendering.

Lack of vents
Cargo Hatch No. 1 is missing slanted front and everything on it
no planks on wooden deck
Morse lamps and navigation lamps are missing from the overly tall wing cabs
certain windows are missing
aft grand staircase skylight was moved to the roof of the recipricating engine room
recipricating engine room incorrectly has windows
no benches
lack of cranes
lack of stairs
2nd class staircase is poorly rendered
"Titanic" and "Liverpool" should be yellow and not white
Well deck ventilators are missing....

I ran out of paper, could you give me another roll?

but atleast theres dose have titanic and liverpool on the back it might be in the wrong colour but it is there
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: llamalord on June 23, 2008, 16:59:00
We're gunna' miss you Paddy. :P
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 24, 2008, 06:10:22
but atleast theres dose have titanic and liverpool on the back it might be in the wrong colour but it is there
I guess I don't have any paper for this, so I'll just continue without it for these errors :P

"Titanic" and "Liverpool" are in the wrong "fonts"
lifeboats 1 and 2 shouldn't be covered
REAL roof of the recipricating engine room is missing
boat deck railings are gone
notice boards are missing
"S.S. Titanic" and "Liverpool" are missing from the lifeboats along with other details
NO red is visible above the water line
all funnels are of equal heights
pipes are missing from the funnels
most details are missing from the poop and forcastle decks
reserve anchor crane is poorly rendered and missing guy wires
expansion joints are missing

I'd do more, but...

1) I am going from memory and can't remember much more and
2) I'm too lazy to write much more ;D
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: JHB on June 24, 2008, 06:46:42
I guess I don't have any paper for this, so I'll just continue without it for these errors :P

"Titanic" and "Liverpool" are in the wrong "fonts"
lifeboats 1 and 2 shouldn't be covered
REAL roof of the recipricating engine room is missing
boat deck railings are gone
notice boards are missing
"S.S. Titanic" and "Liverpool" are missing from the lifeboats along with other details
NO red is visible above the water line
all funnels are of equal heights
pipes are missing from the funnels
most details are missing from the poop and forcastle decks
reserve anchor crane is poorly rendered and missing guy wires
expansion joints are missing

I'd do more, but...

1) I am going from memory and can't remember much more and
2) I'm too lazy to write much more ;D

While you are a member at the VS forum yourself maybe you should post it there instead and see the response you will get.. :D :D You are sitting in the wrong forum kid! Post it overe there... ;D ;D.. and we will see what happens :D :D
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 24, 2008, 06:59:32
But I don't want to associate myself with that horrible model!
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Jayshum on June 24, 2008, 14:17:10
i think this model is one of the better ones from vs


That looks amazing!
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 24, 2008, 15:01:22
yes it is i would like that model in ship sim
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 24, 2008, 19:27:17
What are you people smoking? :-\
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 24, 2008, 19:29:22
you must admit that that model is good
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 24, 2008, 19:30:28
you must admit that that model is good
The Titanic model? You need glasses!
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 24, 2008, 19:31:17
no the queen mary 2 model i know the titanic model is rubbish
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Captain Best on June 24, 2008, 19:32:03
no the queen mary 2 model i know the titanic model is rubbish
yes. but if you look after on Vs site. you mIght get a nice model ::)
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 24, 2008, 20:46:00
i will addmit that most of the models are rubbish but somtimes a good model get though the net
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: James89uk on June 24, 2008, 21:22:33
Hi Guys,

Just to say that I've been reading through this thread and feel that the negative comments about VS are unnecessary and derogatory.  I have been part of the VS community for years (as well as this SS community), and VS has been programmed up by just one man from nothing over the last 9 years - with a community all along the way.  Many of the VS models you see were made years ago and so, of course, cannot be compared to today's models.  There are many new excellent VS models available, although I admit that many others are not made to a desperately high standard.

ShipSim does have much better graphics and more detailed ships, but this is because a huge company is creating it!  Likewise I would also admit that the VS community relations aren't always as strong as they could be, but you yourselves have to come to a reasoned judgement on that.

To conclude, please don't moan about VS on these forums...it's outright rude and just plain boring.  I have come here to read/discuss about SS & related topics - not to read about how much everyone hates VS.  I will not be making reference to VS after this post.

Think before you post - you know who you are.

Thanks for reading, and please think a bit more openly. :-)

James

P.S. Perhaps this thread could now be locked so that other discussions can now return to SS?
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 24, 2008, 22:08:12
In that case, show me a good VS Titanic model, please ;D
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Mad_Fred on June 25, 2008, 00:33:01
I do partly agree with you James, although VSTEP is not a huge company..   :)

There will always be moaning on "rival forums" about the competition, I think.
SS isn't really a favorite subject on the VS forum either, as far as I have experienced.
You cannot deny that there's a similar thing going on over there aswell.
I've seen the same things on other related, "rival forums". I guess it's the way of things.  :-\

But you do have a point about the VS models. A lot are out of date. A lot are just not that good, but there are some great vessels out there made by very talented people aswell.
VS just didn't do it for me though, but we can't all be into the same things of course.  :)

I'm pretty much put off VS most by my first and only VS forum (community) experience and I chose not to come back there again. I won't go into details but it was related to SS and was plain childish and fanboy-like, so to speak..
So personally, I don't really like to see too many VS related topics here, or VS models displayed in the NVDG forum, as they simply do not belong here... But that's just my opinion of course. I personally wouldn't post any SS material or discussions on the VS boards, so I often wonder why we have so much VS content on the SS forum.

I think we have a really good community here, and I also take other fora into account that I am and was a part of.

I'm also sorry to see one of the members go of course. So Paddy, take care of yourself! Too bad you're leaving. I hope you are going to find what you are looking for on the VS forums. Don't be a stranger!

Well... Unless you want to be.  :P

See you around!

Regards,
Fred
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: JHB on June 25, 2008, 08:08:34
In that case, show me a good VS Titanic model, please ;D

Make it yourself !!!  ::)

And I agree with James about all this VS vs SS nonsense. It's like kids who argue about what is best of what...
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 25, 2008, 08:23:01
And I agree with James about all this VS vs SS nonsense. It's like kids who argue about what is best of what...

I picked  a side (Nintendo) in the console wars (click this text (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars) for more info), so when I came here I thought it was a similar case.
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: JHB on June 25, 2008, 09:09:26
Yes but it isn't ;)
If you have 1000 people in front of you and they all have played both Virtual Sailor and Ship Simulator and you ask them the question:

What's the best one of these two games?

..then you will not get one answer. You will get dozens of answers and reasons for their opinions because there is people on this forum (like me and James) who also play both games (SS and VS) and find favorite sides in both games. I cud always find pluses and minuses for both VS and SS if I want to...but I don't get the idea to post these in this forum when there is a list of minuses of VS that actually cud be posted at the VS forum instead.

If you request a extremely detailed Titanic model for VS you simply post it at the VS forum. If you think that the Titanic made for VS isn't good enough- fine! But there are other people that may find that Titanic model great! So you should be a little careful to go far in your judgment when reviewing a game, car, train, airplane, shoes...whatever. If you did post the stuff you wrote about Titanic at the VS forum I can promise you that you would be dead meat over there pretty soon. Yeah you would feel it like a war because I know...because I have done the same stupid thing myself when I reviewed someones add-on over there...

The other thing you can do is to keep if for yourself and not post it at all. Then at least you don't get overdriven by repliers with strong opinions and that at the end attacks the poster instead of the case.

To the last - if someone likes VS don't attack them. If someone like SS don't attack them. That's what's called respect. Then at least you can stay out of real trouble.
I think that you know this already so I end it here...bye! ;)
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 25, 2008, 09:59:34
yes allthough i do beleave in telling like it is. i'm not one for letting someone down genterly over in vs i would probley be dead for say a lot of there ships are undetailed and badly made but that is just me
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Ship Sim on June 26, 2008, 05:17:57
Rms gigantic try here and look through the pages. Im sure you will find something good. ;)
http://vslib.maxxflow.com/library.php
http://www.simondr.co.uk/
http://www.simpsonslipways.net/
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 26, 2008, 06:25:47
Rms gigantic try here and look through the pages. Im sure you will find something good. ;)
http://vslib.maxxflow.com/library.php
http://www.simondr.co.uk/
http://www.simpsonslipways.net/
Acoording to the first link, there is an "improved" Titanic VS model...

When in reality, the only improvement I can see is that "Titanic" is written in yellow.

the lattering face is still way off, though

Try Arial with spaces between:

T I T A N I C
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Captain Best on June 26, 2008, 08:20:10
Acoording to the first link, there is an "improved" Titanic VS model...

When in reality, the only improvement I can see is that "Titanic" is written in yellow.

the lattering face is still way off, though

Try Arial with spaces between:

T I T A N I C
try download the improved Titanic here: http://vslib.maxxflow.com/browse.php?cat=10&page=6 (http://vslib.maxxflow.com/browse.php?cat=10&page=6) and if you try sinking it on Vs7. it will sink like it did in 1912. ;D
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 26, 2008, 08:54:08
try download the improved Titanic here: http://vslib.maxxflow.com/browse.php?cat=10&page=6 (http://vslib.maxxflow.com/browse.php?cat=10&page=6) and if you try sinking it on Vs7. it will sink like it did in 1912. ;D
But I don't have VS.

Because I go for quality and accuracy in virtual models :P
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Captain Best on June 26, 2008, 08:58:50
But I don't have VS.

Because I go for quality and accuracy in virtual models :P
same too. but i did want it for fun Vs7 :D
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 26, 2008, 09:48:16
same too. but i did want it for fun Vs7 :D
I'll tell you what, show me a VS Titanic model that is good by my standards, THEN I'll consider getting it ;)

It just feels like I'd be betraying VSTEP if I bought it, as I usually don't see 2 companies competing in the same industry as being on good terms with eachother.
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 26, 2008, 11:22:11
yes i like ship sim more they have more detailed ship and ports. but then vs has nore ships and ports so realy they both have good and bad points each
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Captain Best on June 26, 2008, 11:25:27
yes i like ship sim more they have more detailed ship and ports. but then vs has nore ships and ports so realy they both have good and bad points each
yes ofcourse i like ShipSim -best. Vs7 is are not good at designing at all. the ship.  ther ports and the ocean and sea :o
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: JHB on June 26, 2008, 12:33:25
Lol! Here (http://www.hangsim.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=110) you have the one that hate SS for all it is. He's not much active at the SS forum anymore ;D Maybe it's not a bad idea when he write such about SS ... or maybe he have changed his username :D
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 26, 2008, 13:42:06
Lol! Here (http://www.hangsim.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=110) you have the one that hate SS for all it is. He's not much active at the SS forum anymore ;D Maybe it's not a bad idea when he write such about SS ... or maybe he have changed his username :D
"Not Realistic"?

That guy needs to

1) get glasses
or
2) [edit] by Terry - drug references removed
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Minime on June 26, 2008, 13:44:40
totally agree, it's much more realistic than VS, but VS does have much more options
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 26, 2008, 13:45:48
totally agree, it's much more realistic than VS, but VS does have much more options
who cares when you have realism! ;D *Hallelujah begins to play*

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nnHksDFHTQI (http://youtube.com/watch?v=nnHksDFHTQI) ;D
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 26, 2008, 13:56:19
they are the one that is unrealistic having anybody make a rubbish ship and poorly detailed ports
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: RMS Gigantic on June 26, 2008, 13:59:45
they are the one that is unrealistic having anybody make a rubbish ship and poorly detailed ports
my thoughts exactly.

ShipSim needs a REALLY powerful graphics card
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 26, 2008, 17:13:28
at the end of the day do you want this or this
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Captain Best on June 26, 2008, 17:24:33
at the end of the day do you want this or this
try download Improved Titanic.  Its better the you got in Vs Picture. http://vslib.maxxflow.com/browse.php?cat=10&page=6 (http://vslib.maxxflow.com/browse.php?cat=10&page=6)
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 26, 2008, 17:26:41
it is still no were nere as good as our titanic and they have the cheak to say our game is rubbish and removed

Edited for language, DJM.
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Minime on June 26, 2008, 17:32:58
let's just stop this SS vs VS conversation, it's not going anywhere
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 27, 2008, 15:41:54
Lol! Here (http://www.hangsim.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=110) you have the one that hate SS for all it is. He's not much active at the SS forum anymore ;D Maybe it's not a bad idea when he write such about SS ... or maybe he have changed his username :D
i am sorry to say be this person is still very active on the ship simulator forum and yes he has changed his name but lets hope we can drop the vs v ship and and which R.M.S TITANIC is better
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: Ship Sim on June 27, 2008, 19:34:12
The reason for all this SS v VS is because everyone wants to stand up for there favroit game. In acutality both games are not perfect. and the only reason Vs has lots of addons is because older. Also the titanic model is indipendently made and not made to be the best. The person might just be trying to do there best. How would you like it if you made a model and people talked bad about it after you put time and effort into it. Just think about it for a little while. ;)
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: pauljanaway1 on June 27, 2008, 19:56:24
and the person who is saying all the bed things about ship simulator on the vs forum. but 3 mouth ago this same person  on this forum voted ship sim as the best shipping game ever and i have a email from saken or as he is known on this forum R.M.S TITANIC

so if you have any brains you would have worked out who shipsimer is by now

if it brakes any rules pleace remove the link

Attachment removed, DJM.
Title: Re: Bye Bye
Post by: [RWP]DJM on June 27, 2008, 21:25:04
Guys, one topic has already been closed to prevent these discussions.  This topic is not about a game war, so please stay on topic.

Carl.