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Title: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 04, 2008, 03:54:08
same rules as the other trivias. Titanic only. no other ships. i'll start. what two things did explorers find to help figure out how Titanic broke?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: mvsmith on April 04, 2008, 04:14:04
Two separated sections of double-bottom that had been adjacent to the mid-ship break.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 04, 2008, 04:17:28
correct. your turn.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: mvsmith on April 04, 2008, 04:51:22
I’ll have to pass right now. (I have all the answers, but no questions. ;D)
Marty
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 04, 2008, 04:56:33
guess i'll go(again) hmnmmmmmmmmm......... what was the message sent to the Californian and what does CQD mean?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 04, 2008, 04:59:02
I’ll have to pass right now. (I have all the answers, but no questions. ;D)
Marty

then i have one  RMS Titanic
Give me the dimensions of

Length -
Beam -
Draft -
Height -
Decks -
Weight -
Howe many passenger and crew
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 04, 2008, 05:13:44
length-882ft 9in. beam-92ft 6in. draft-34ft 7in. passengers/crew-2240. decks-60ft from waterline. weight-46328 tons. height-bout 70ft ;D
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 04, 2008, 05:19:13
length-882ft 9in. beam-92ft 6in. draft-34ft 7in. passengers/crew-2240. decks-60ft from waterline. weight-46328 tons. height-bout 70ft ;D
allmost right
here are the right anwer but i give you right, you turn

Length - 882 feet 6 inches.
Beam - 92 feet 6 inches.
Draft - 34 feet 6 inches.
Height - 175 feet from keel to stack (the boat deck was 60 feet above the waterline).
Decks - 9 total, A through G with the boilers below.
Weight - 46,328 Registered Tons.
Capacity: 3,547 passengers and crew, fully loaded
TJK ;D ;D
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 04, 2008, 05:21:34
ok. my previous question is up there.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 04, 2008, 05:34:58
guess i'll go(again) hmnmmmmmmmmm......... what was the message sent to the Californian and what does CQD mean?
CQD     Close Quarters Defense( the international distress signal ) · · · - - - · · ·  morse code SOS
No message got tro  to California
The Californian's wireless was turned off, and the wireless operator had gone to bed for the night. Just before he went to bed at around 11:00 PM the Californian's radio operator attempted to warn the Titanic that there was ice ahead, but he was cut off by an exhausted Jack Phillips, who snapped, "Shut up, shut up, I am busy". When the Californian's officers first saw the ship, they tried signalling it with their Morse lamp, but also never appeared to receive a response. Later,
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 04, 2008, 05:36:40
your turn.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 04, 2008, 05:39:58
Were is this picture taken and wat is it you see and where on the ship is it
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 04, 2008, 05:42:43
Were is this picture taken and wat is it you see and where on the ship is it
it was the Grand Staircase just after construction.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 04, 2008, 05:43:53
it was the Grand Staircase just after construction.
you turn
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 04, 2008, 05:47:53
i know too much ::)  where was the "unsinkable" ship built?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 04, 2008, 05:50:22
i know too much ::)  where was the "unsinkable" ship built?
built at the Harland and Wolff shipyard.Belfast, Northern Ireland.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 04, 2008, 05:53:21
what shipyard?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 04, 2008, 05:54:12
what shipyard?
RMS Titanic was an Olympic-class passenger liner owned by the White Star Line and built at the Harland and Wolff shipyard. At the time of her launching in 1912, she was the largest passenger steamship.
i know too much ::) 
you are not alone  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 04, 2008, 05:59:08
your turn
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 04, 2008, 06:00:10
What has this picture to do with RMS Titanic?
(http://i26.tinypic.com/2uptra8.jpg)
Titanic Memorial, grounds of Belfast City Hall, Northern Ireland.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 04, 2008, 06:04:09
that is a memorial to remember those who died that night.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 04, 2008, 06:05:11
that is a memorial to remember those who died that night.
were is it?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 04, 2008, 06:08:50
Belfast ;)
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 04, 2008, 06:09:16
Belfast ;)
you turn but no i'm give up for today, lat oder get a change, i know to mutch you see ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 04, 2008, 06:12:12
i'm tired. someone take my turn. night 8)
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 04, 2008, 22:11:30
all right. here's one. was the Titanic A.) American. B.) English. or C.) Irish?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: ash on April 04, 2008, 22:38:23
b)English
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 04, 2008, 22:47:51
no.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Stuart2007 on April 04, 2008, 23:38:27
i know too much ::)  where was the "unsinkable" ship built?

It was built in a drydock. On top of some concrete blocks
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Stuart2007 on April 04, 2008, 23:39:26
no.
Quite debatable.
 It was operated by a British company that was owned by a US holding company. It was flying a red ensign and had a British skipper...
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: mvsmith on April 05, 2008, 02:51:17
It was built in a drydock. On top of some concrete blocks
Actually, Stu, her hull was built on #2 slipway under the Arrol gantry in H&W’s Queen’s shipyard. Fitting out was done in the Thompson Graving Dock—which the Belfast Port Authority built just in time to take Olympic.
Marty
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 05, 2008, 03:08:26
b)English

no.
RMS Titanic was an Olympic-class passenger liner owned by the White Star Line
White Star Line, was a prominent British shipping company, most famous for its ill-fated luxury flagship, the RMS Titanic
SO English she was
TJK
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 05, 2008, 03:11:40
Actually, Stu, her hull was built on #2 slipway under the Arrol gantry in H&W’s Queen’s shipyard. Fitting out was done in the Thompson Graving Dock—which the Belfast Port Authority built just in time to take Olympic.
Marty

built at the Harland and Wolff shipyard Belfast North Ireland
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 05, 2008, 03:13:09
Here are 3 question
what type of steam engine was titanic powered by? and how many cylinders did each engine have? Titanic used  ?? tons of coal every day?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: mvsmith on April 05, 2008, 03:59:28
Quite debatable.
 It was operated by a British company that was owned by a US holding company. It was flying a red ensign and had a British skipper...
Also, Stu, she flew the blue ensign because she was under command of an admiral in the RNR.
White Star Lines was, at that time, a wholly owned subsidiary of J.P. Morgan’s International Mercantile Marine. She was as much a US ship as any US ship registered in Liberia.
Marty
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 05, 2008, 04:03:49
guys. the answer to my question was A.) American. she just had a British flag ;)
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 05, 2008, 04:07:15
guys. the answer to my question was A.) American. she just had a British flag ;)
RMS Titanic was an Olympic-class passenger liner owned by the White Star Line
White Star Line, was a prominent British shipping company, most famous for its ill-fated luxury flagship, the RMS Titanic
SO English she was
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: mvsmith on April 05, 2008, 04:09:21
Titanic had two triple-expansion reciprocating engines with three cylinders each. The exhaust steam drove a Parsons turbine on the center screw. She burned 600 tons/day with all boilers on line.
Marty
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 05, 2008, 04:09:46
Here are 3 question
what type of steam engine was titanic powered by? and how many cylinders did each engine have? Titanic used  ?? tons of coal every day?
I Thoth this was a question topics??
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 05, 2008, 04:12:05
Titanic had two triple-expansion reciprocating engines with three cylinders each. The exhaust steam drove a Parsons turbine on the center screw. She burned 600 tons/day  with all boilers on line.
Marty

wrong  
right
Here are the right answer
you're good, 2 triple expansions with 4 cylinders
Engines - 2 reciprocating 4 cylinder direct drive inverted steam engines delivering 30,000 HP at 75 RPM for the 2 outside propellers, and 1 low pressure Parsons Turbine delivering 16,000 HP at 165 RPM for the center propeller. The Parsons was powered by excess steam from the other 2 engines. Titanic used 825 tonns off coal every day.

you turn, i'm sleepy
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Stuart2007 on April 05, 2008, 08:36:24
Also, Stu, she flew the blue ensign because she was under command of an admiral in the RNR.
White Star Lines was, at that time, a wholly owned subsidiary of J.P. Morgan’s International Mercantile Marine. She was as much a US ship as any US ship registered in Liberia.
Marty


This is a point that keeps on re-appearing every so often. Whilst EJS was entitled to fly a blue ensign, it was flying a red ensign at the time- this is clearly stated in the memorial museum in sounthampton under the 'myths and legends of titanic'

I think describing the Nationality of the ship as US- as in your example above is a little misleading. Please have a look at www.companieshouse.gov.uk/archive and check whether white star line was a registered British company or registered US company.

For example (and I realise this may be hard for US to believe) but Britain owns several US companies- for example did you know that well over 2/3 of your kids school buses are operated by companies owned by Britain. Are these British companies par se? No. They are listed as US companies, under US law, with US workers and pay US taxes... but are owned by British companies.

Would you describe the Pride of Dover (example) as a British ship or an Arabic ship (DP ports?)

Or a better one- are half of US ports American or Arabic (DP ports again). I'm afraid that the concept of conventional Nationalism is a little more complicated than a simple yes/no.


Apologies to trains, or whoever it was, for this straying from Titanic... It was bound to happen sooner or later

Still no mention of Mar*ite though


EDIT: Are you sure EJS was an Admiral of the RNR... I don't actually think that is possible, but I'm not 100%. He was a Commodore (named after a make of computer  ;) ) but that was a civilian rank.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 05, 2008, 09:05:41
OO! OO! HERE'S ONE!

1) Which ship below is the RMS Titanic, as opposed to its sister, the RMS Olympic?
2) What are 2 of the differences between the 2 ships that are most noticable in these photos, so you can tell which it is?

(http://www.starway.org/Titanic/pictures/Titanic%20BW.gif)
(http://www.luxurylinerrow.com/Olympic%20Soton%20Water.jpg)
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 05, 2008, 09:14:06
White Star Line

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Star_Line

RMS Titanic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Titanic

she was english, just read
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 05, 2008, 09:15:08
allmost right
here are the right anwer but i give you right, you turn

Length - 882 feet 9 inches.
Beam - 92 feet 6 inches.
Draft - 34 feet 7 inches.
Height - 175 feet from keel to stack (the boat deck was 60 feet 6 inches above the waterline).
Decks - 9 total, A through G with the boilers below.
Weight - 46,328 Registered Tons.
Capacity: 3,547 passengers and crew, fully loaded
TJK ;D ;D
My corrections are in bold.

Correction Explanations:
1) The Titanic was 3 inches longer than her 882.5 foot sister
2)this stat is more exact
3)this, too, is more exact
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 05, 2008, 09:16:14
White Star Line

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Star_Line

RMS Titanic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Titanic

she was english, just read
as for my question?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 05, 2008, 13:30:56
OO! OO! HERE'S ONE!

1) Which ship below is the RMS Titanic, as opposed to its sister, the RMS Olympic?
2) What are 2 of the differences between the 2 ships that are most noticable in these photos, so you can tell which it is?

(http://www.starway.org/Titanic/pictures/Titanic%20BW.gif)
(http://www.luxurylinerrow.com/Olympic%20Soton%20Water.jpg)
top is Titanic, bottom is Olympic. it's the windows that are diffrent just before the top boat deck ;)
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: mvsmith on April 05, 2008, 14:51:52
White Star Line

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Star_Line

RMS Titanic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Titanic

she was english, just read

Hi Tore,
I did read the top Wiki, which clearly states the WSL was American owned at the time of Titanic’s building:

"In 1902, the White Star Line was absorbed into the International Mercantile Marine Co. (IMM), a large American shipping conglomerate. By 1903, IMM had managed to absorb the American Line, Dominion Line, Atlantic Transport Line, Leyland Line, and Red Star Line. They also came to trade agreements with the German lines Hamburg-Amerika and Norddeutscher Lloyd. Bruce Ismay ceded control to IMM in the face of intense pressure from shareholders and J.P. Morgan, who threatened a rate war."

Regards,
Marty

Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 05, 2008, 16:49:13
Hi Tore,
I did read the top Wiki, which clearly states the WSL was American owned at the time of Titanic’s building:

"In 1902, the White Star Line was absorbed into the International Mercantile Marine Co. (IMM), a large American shipping conglomerate. By 1903, IMM had managed to absorb the American Line, Dominion Line, Atlantic Transport Line, Leyland Line, and Red Star Line. They also came to trade agreements with the German lines Hamburg-Amerika and Norddeutscher Lloyd. Bruce Ismay ceded control to IMM in the face of intense pressure from shareholders and J.P. Morgan, who threatened a rate war."

Regards,
Marty



OK Marty
she was not Norwegian ;D i believe you and rest my case :D
TJK
Tore
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 05, 2008, 18:28:43
top is Titanic, bottom is Olympic. it's the windows that are diffrent just before the top boat deck ;)
yes, that is the promenade A deck...

but I said to list 2!

Can you give a second difference?

hint: look at the (5 letters) house...
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Al Bundy on April 05, 2008, 20:52:49
I did read the top Wiki, which clearly states the WSL was American owned at the time of Titanic’s building:

Hi Marty.

Noone will argue with you about this, but fact is that White Star Line was a British company and it would not make it American even if 100% of its shares was on American hands. That would only make it an American owned British Company.

Titanic was British.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Al Bundy on April 05, 2008, 20:58:03
yes, that is the promenade A deck...

but I said to list 2!

Can you give a second difference?

hint: look at the (5 letters) house...

It is really hard to tell from the picture, that Titanic's wheelhouse roof was deck planked and Olympic was not,
so I will just mention the the window pattern on the Shelter deck (forward of the private promenade) due to the added cabins on the Titanic.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: ash on April 05, 2008, 21:10:13
I think its my question now
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: ash on April 05, 2008, 21:15:52
here is my question:

How much did each link in the Titanics anchor chain weigh in pounds? ???
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Stuart2007 on April 05, 2008, 22:35:40
Noone will argue with you about this, <snip>

i will  :D
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 06, 2008, 00:36:12
It is really hard to tell from the picture, that Titanic's wheelhouse roof was deck planked and Olympic was not,
so I will just mention the the window pattern on the Shelter deck (forward of the private promenade) due to the added cabins on the Titanic.
Actually, I was looking for the fact that Titanic's wheelhouse is noticably wider, and just slightly narrower than Olympic's!

As for the new question, I don't know about the chains, but the anchors themselves weighed 15.5 tons each!
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Ship Sim on April 06, 2008, 07:22:07
175 Pounds per chain. ;)
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: ash on April 06, 2008, 10:02:53
yea ur turn
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: fishlikelong on April 06, 2008, 22:23:48
I got a question:

When the Titanic left port there was a fire blazing in Titanic's coal bunker. Which day into the voyage was it finally extinguished?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Stuart2007 on April 06, 2008, 23:51:52
This is PURELY a guess. I think it's a trick question- with an answer that it never was (unless you count when it sank).

Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: mvsmith on April 07, 2008, 01:06:06
One of the wild theories was that it was the bunker fire that weakened her so that she sank after the collision. I believe the fire probably continued to smolder till after she reached the bottom.
Marty
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Stuart2007 on April 07, 2008, 01:35:58
One would have thought that any heat would have dissipated by the time the wreck hit the bottom. That water would have been cold.

Here's a Q for you. How LONG would it have taken to fall to the bottom.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: mvsmith on April 07, 2008, 03:53:09
Given the depth—about 2.5 miles—and the terminal velocity of objects like that in water, I’d estimate from 8 to 11 minutes.
Marty

Stu,
I think you are underestimating the heat capacity of a bunker of smoldering coal.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: fishlikelong on April 07, 2008, 10:58:21
It was actually extinguished on the Saturday 13th April....or so I read
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 07, 2008, 15:11:13
Time it took to hit the bottom...

Does that include the 2 hours and 40 minutes on the surface?

It was traveling at 20 knots going down to a spot 12,500 feet (about 2.5 miles) below the sea....

According to google calculator, that's 23.015589 mph....

Using the calculator again, it would take 0.102861771 hours, or just over 6 minutes for the BOW. The stern fell faster, as it fell almost vertical....

In all, I'd have to guess, oh, say, about 10 minutes of falling between the two pieces, giving the stern 4 minutes?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Stuart2007 on April 07, 2008, 21:49:04
Given the depth—about 2.5 miles—and the terminal velocity of objects like that in water, I’d estimate from 8 to 11 minutes.
Marty

Stu,
I think you are underestimating the heat capacity of a bunker of smoldering coal.


I'd say that's a reasoable sort of figure. Although I was expecting an answer to the nearest 4 seconds, but it will have to do!  ;D

Sorry- misunderstanding. It may well have been hot/warm at the bottom, but I take smouldering as a word that implies that it is still burning (smoke but no flame) which clearly it can't do in the absence of oxygen... Unless it trapped an air pocket of course.

Do you happen to know what the water pressure is at that depth?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: LucAtC on April 07, 2008, 22:06:39
Hello Stu,
Under 3750 m seawater dty 1.025 would mean 384 bar? But only a specialist of oceanographic surveys would know the mean density...
Luc
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Stuart2007 on April 07, 2008, 22:11:08
5569 p.s.i. then! Wow, that's impressive.

I managed to cut my hand by letting it get too close to a 3500 p.s.i. pressure washer. And to think some marine life can live quite happily at that depth!
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 08, 2008, 03:34:48
Passengers pulled from the water during the sinking of the Royal Mail Streamer Titanic described the water as being like "a thousand knives being stuck into" them. In degrees fahrenheit (F), what tempurature was the water?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 08, 2008, 03:35:57
I'd say that's a reasoable sort of figure. Although I was expecting an answer to the nearest 4 seconds, but it will have to do!  ;D

Sorry- misunderstanding. It may well have been hot/warm at the bottom, but I take smouldering as a word that implies that it is still burning (smoke but no flame) which clearly it can't do in the absence of oxygen... Unless it trapped an air pocket of course.

Do you happen to know what the water pressure is at that depth?
... how long WAS it to the nearest 4 seconds?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Stuart2007 on April 08, 2008, 21:24:44
Passengers pulled from the water during the sinking of the Royal Mail Streamer Titanic described the water as being like "a thousand knives being stuck into" them. In degrees fahrenheit (F), what tempurature was the water?

I doubt many of them interrupted their drowning and freezing to death to grab a thermometer.

"Sorry to bother you old boy, but before we die it would be awfully good of you to just check what the temperature is. I would do it myself, but I suspect I'm about to die from hypothermia."

"I think it's somewhere between cold and fu...glug...glug...glug"

Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 08, 2008, 21:30:39
guys. this is a trivia. not a debate on Titanic. it's to test your skills at how much you know on the greatest ship in the world. can we get back to the trivia? thanks ;)
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Stuart2007 on April 08, 2008, 21:38:40
guys. this is a trivia. not a debate on Titanic. it's to test your skills at how much you know on the greatest ship in the world. can we get back to the trivia? thanks ;)

'Titanic' and 'greatest ship in the world' are two mutually exclusive phrase... If you were right, then all ships would be replicas of Titanic...

OK, so you don't get upset- Which was the only wood found on Titanic that had not rotted away. (I give you a clue-it wasn't MDF from the bark of the MDF tree)
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 08, 2008, 21:46:07
not sure. did they talk about it in Titanic's Akiles Heel? can't remember.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Stuart2007 on April 08, 2008, 21:51:35
Well, in that case... you're going to have to research it and find out to keep your honour.

You don't need to research Titanic- just wood- think about what SORT of wood it would be... then start researching.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 08, 2008, 22:10:15
ARRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH! i knew it from history. i think the Egyptians used it for their boats. they were most advanced of their time. real smart. because of them, we know what we do today.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Stuart2007 on April 08, 2008, 22:15:02
Everything we know today comes from ancient Egypt?  ??? ;D

I'm not aware of the Egyptians using it, but I wouldn't swear to it.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 08, 2008, 22:22:16
most everything. boat building ideas was one. so your sig's wrong :P
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Stuart2007 on April 08, 2008, 22:27:10
I think that the ability to float boats (dugouts, coracles etc) happened all over the world at broadly the same time.

The Greeks had rather more extensive shipping experience than the Egyptians (though you'd never believe it judging by their 'modern' ferries).

As I said, my signature is spot on. I can't help it if reality is slow to catch up.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 08, 2008, 22:31:35
but where did the Greeks get the ideas. true the Greeks and Romans helped improve life into presnt day but they got ideas from Egyptians. beside i was talking about the wood they used for boats :P
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 09, 2008, 03:17:06
The answer to my question was 18 degrees!
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 11, 2008, 02:54:53
which idea of the break up seems more realilistc? A.) she reached about 30 degres and the presure on the hull was too great causing her to split. B.) she reached 11 degres, started to split, the water pulled her together, then at 30 degres, broke and bent into her self, the stern fell back, and sunk at about 40 degres.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 11, 2008, 03:03:21
which idea of the break up seems more realilistc? A.) she reached about 30 degres and the presure on the hull was too great causing her to split. B.) she reached 11 degres, started to split, the water pulled her together, then at 30 degres, broke and bent into her self, the stern fell back, and sunk at about 40 degres.
b
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 11, 2008, 03:06:29
b
ditto here, as there are two peices of Titanic's hull, making up 75 feet of the double bottom hull, bildge keel to bildge keel, upside down in a region east of the debris field
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 11, 2008, 03:08:54
also, the upper decks are mangles and the bottom is cleanly cut, the opposite of what the 1985 theory's break up would have caused
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 11, 2008, 03:13:41
if the stern went into the bow, it would be bent upward. but if she broke like in the movie, the top of the bow would be pulled down in the back. and those two parts of the hull prove what really?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: mvsmith on April 11, 2008, 04:12:30
Already answered:
http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,1331.msg73196.html#msg73196 (http://www.shipsim.com/ShipSimForum/index.php/topic,1331.msg73196.html#msg73196)
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 11, 2008, 04:16:56
this: if something that long bends due to a structural failure like the 1985 movie, in this case, the bottom would be crushed and mangled due to compression, while the top would be cleanly cut because it is being pulled apart.

as you say, "and those two parts of the hull prove what really?"

let me answer that for you: JUST THE OPPOSITE

the break up was interrupted, by what? easy, the only part of the ship that had yet to fail, the double bottom.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 11, 2008, 04:27:56
but if the water pulled the ship down and that caused part of the break up, how can water pull the ship together? and how can she go into her self? at that angle, the stern would fall back. it can't just bend the opposite way if she has weight at the stern. it seems like in order to go into her self, an invisable force would either have to pull her forward or pushed at the bottom of the stern into the bow. if she broke like that, the rear of the bow would be pushed up, not down.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: mvsmith on April 11, 2008, 08:03:11
Trains,
What do you mean “go into herself”? The bow and stern had more buoyancy than the midsection after it flooded through the crack. This caused the crack to close again as shown by the crushed edges at the top. The tensile stress on the double bottom finally snapped it.
The archeological evidence supports this, and the naval architects are in agreement that this is what happened.
You could spend some time reading the technical literature on Titanic rather than depending upon a motion picture for your understanding.
Marty
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 11, 2008, 08:50:09
HI
the boilers  did explode to, maybe that help little to break her in two also
The Hollywood movie was not authentic, fiction and action for make money, but it was a god film do
TJK
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 11, 2008, 12:02:20
Smith. the theory your talking about was talked about on Titanics Akiles Heel. that theory suggest she broke into her self and then sunk.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 11, 2008, 12:41:05
It's ALSO the theory made by the guys at the History Channel in 2006 when they found 2 peices that didn't support the 1985 theory.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 11, 2008, 19:07:45
but it wasn't only the hull that failed. a second part failed. i'm sure it was talked about by those same discoverers. can't remember what part.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 11, 2008, 22:16:13
The aft expansion joint (probably what you were thinking of) began to fail, but the crack stopped at the only section of the ship that was still air-filled: the double bottom hull, sealed off from the rest of the ship, which failed under stress (it's hard to hold a 46,328 ton ship together!).
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: huang yu po peter on April 12, 2008, 13:44:09
How did titanic got its name? ???
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 12, 2008, 17:13:55
How did titanic got its name? ???
greek mythology; from the Titans
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Stuart2007 on April 13, 2008, 14:44:18
but where did the Greeks get the ideas. true the Greeks and Romans helped improve life into presnt day but they got ideas from Egyptians. beside i was talking about the wood they used for boats :P

I think if you were to go to two far apart locations and research their ancestors- example 1) Vikings 2) Maoris you would find that they both discovered the idea of floating bits of wood for boats at about the same time- probably about 11pm one Saturday after a drunken night in a pub.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 13, 2008, 23:36:18
Which funnel on Titanic was shortest?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 14, 2008, 01:35:28
Which funnel on Titanic was shortest?
the third.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 14, 2008, 01:47:46
the third.
Incorrect. That's the tallest!
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 14, 2008, 01:50:43
first.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 14, 2008, 01:52:54
correct! :D
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 14, 2008, 01:55:07
ok. on Titanic, what was the fourth funnel for?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 14, 2008, 01:56:51
ok. on Titanic, what was the fourth funnel for?
1) looks
2) deck chair storage
3) ventalation
4) removing smoke from the first class smoking room
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 14, 2008, 02:03:38
errrr... your turn. i thought you'd forget the looks.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 14, 2008, 02:06:27
errrr... your turn. i thought you'd forget the looks.
lol

how much horse power did one of the ship's engines have?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 14, 2008, 02:09:26
16,000 hp.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 14, 2008, 02:19:11
I'll accept, though I was looking for 15,000. Is that more exact?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 14, 2008, 02:28:33
ok. what year was Titanic's sister Olympic scraped?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 14, 2008, 02:41:49
ok. what year was Titanic's sister Olympic scraped?
The long life of the first sister
1910~1937
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 14, 2008, 02:42:52
1935 or 36 if memory serves.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 14, 2008, 02:45:26
35. where'd you get 46 TJK? was it a guess?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 14, 2008, 02:47:33
Titanic's sister, Olympic was number 9 of how many 4 funnel ships ever built?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 14, 2008, 02:47:47
35. where'd you get 46 TJK? was it a guess?
yes
The long life of the first sister
1910~1937
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 14, 2008, 02:52:28
it's a guess  12
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 14, 2008, 02:54:16
12?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 14, 2008, 02:55:59
35. where'd you get 46 TJK? was it a guess?
how com she lived to 37 how cud she be scraped in 35
The long life of the first sister
1910~1937
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 14, 2008, 02:57:04
it's a guess  12 maybe 112  wild guess ;D ore maybe she was the last, i don't know
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 14, 2008, 03:05:03
12 isn't correct. more than that, but less than 112 :P
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 14, 2008, 03:08:07
12 isn't correct. more than that, but less than 112 :P
14
http://www.maritimequest.com/misc_pages/four_funnel_liners.htm
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 14, 2008, 03:09:18
14
http://www.maritimequest.com/misc_pages/four_funnel_liners.htm
CORRECT!
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 14, 2008, 03:17:53
wath is this?
1 (http://i32.tinypic.com/dy3882.jpg)

2 (http://i30.tinypic.com/27yzskn.jpg)

3 (http://i28.tinypic.com/j5l3le.jpg)

4 (http://i25.tinypic.com/2ykgtxe.jpg)

5 (http://i25.tinypic.com/n36oom.jpg)

Name at all 5 pieces place and wath ship are adet in the attach
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 14, 2008, 03:26:18
1) keel
2) engine tops
3)recipricating engines
4) ?
5) ?

attached: HMHS Britannic

I'm not looking this stuff up.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 14, 2008, 03:30:43
1) keel Right
2) engine tops  not  
3)recipricating engines not
4) ?
5) ?

attached: HMHS Britannic right

I'm not looking this stuff up.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: TJK on April 14, 2008, 03:32:31
I will sun go to bad so i give you right
01_titanic_keel
titanic_engines
_titanic_crankshaft

titanic_turbine_casting
titanic_turbine_rotor
britannic

you turn
(http://planetsmilies.net/machine-smiley-5068.gif) (http://planetsmilies.net)
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 14, 2008, 19:25:22
well he hasn't answered. i'll go. about how much longer will Titanic remain on the ocean floor till she becomes an orange stain?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Al Bundy on April 14, 2008, 19:35:52
I will sun go to bad so i give you right
01_titanic_keel

No 1 is Olympic keel. Titanic keel can be seen to on the slipway to the left.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: ash on April 16, 2008, 18:19:40
well he hasn't answered. i'll go. about how much longer will Titanic remain on the ocean floor till she becomes an orange stain?

50 years
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 16, 2008, 21:02:24
correct. go ash.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Captain Best on April 17, 2008, 18:19:20
is this topic have the same rules as Ship sim trivial. Exp: 2 hours role ???
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 17, 2008, 19:03:29
2 hour rule applys here.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Captain Best on April 17, 2008, 19:29:10
2 hour rule applys here.
ok. I got one! what are RMS standing for ???
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: xcruiser on April 17, 2008, 20:09:25
ok. I got one! what are RMS standing for ???

Royal Mail Steamer :D
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on April 17, 2008, 21:31:30
darn. i thought you would say Royal Mail Ship. everyone says that.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 18, 2008, 02:20:18
Royal Mail Steamer :D
It can also stand for Royal Merchant Steamer: It's a double ship prefix! ;D
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Captain Best on April 18, 2008, 12:26:16
yes. its over 2 hours. so anyone next???
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 18, 2008, 13:10:37
What was the lifeboat requirement for a ship as big as the Titanic in 1912?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Captain Best on April 18, 2008, 13:39:46
What was the lifeboat requirement for a ship as big as the Titanic in 1912?
23?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 18, 2008, 14:21:16
23?
incorrect
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: [RWP]DJM on April 18, 2008, 14:21:52
70 ???
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 18, 2008, 14:22:29
70 ???
incorrect
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Captain Best on April 18, 2008, 14:29:04
incorrect
can u make options?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 18, 2008, 14:36:36
can u make options?
ok

12
16
20
36
46

There!
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Captain Best on April 18, 2008, 14:41:24
ok

12
16
20
36
46

There!
36?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 18, 2008, 14:44:09
36?
incorrect
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Captain Best on April 18, 2008, 14:44:44
incorrect
20
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 18, 2008, 14:46:48
20
incorrect
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Captain Best on April 18, 2008, 14:53:45
incorrect
46 then?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 18, 2008, 14:57:04
46 then?
incorrect
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Captain Best on April 18, 2008, 14:57:38
16
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: xcruiser on April 18, 2008, 17:38:42
16 Lifeboats and 4 foldingboats was legal requirement for the TITANIC
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 18, 2008, 22:08:48
16
16 is correct! The Titanic exceeded requirements with 20!
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Captain Best on April 19, 2008, 08:50:57
16 is correct! The Titanic exceeded requirements with 20!
;D where did titanic builded?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 19, 2008, 09:01:39
;D where did titanic builded?
Belfast, Ireland
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Captain Best on April 19, 2008, 18:21:46
Belfast, Ireland
yes.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Captain Best on April 19, 2008, 18:22:03
yes.
what company???      then
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 19, 2008, 18:37:27
what company???      then
Harland & Wolff
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Captain Best on April 19, 2008, 19:12:31
Harland & Wolff
again correct. your turn ;D
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 19, 2008, 19:18:31
again correct. your turn ;D
how many tons of coal did the ship take in per day?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Captain Best on April 19, 2008, 20:27:29
how many tons of coal did the ship take in per day?
dont ask me ;D
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 19, 2008, 20:45:49
dont ask me ;D
lol. try looking it up on the web.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Captain Best on April 19, 2008, 20:54:03
lol. try looking it up on the web.
650 tons of coal per day while
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 19, 2008, 22:54:54
more than that...
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: mvsmith on April 20, 2008, 02:01:07
That depends upon how many boilers are on line. Two were off-line during the voyage, and she was only running at 21.5 knots.
Marty
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 20, 2008, 04:40:27
The figure I go with says 825, but trains says captaon best is right with 650, so I'll give it to captain best.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Ship Sim on April 20, 2008, 06:28:27
620 tons of coal per day at 21.7 knots is what the web says.

PS. If I got it right then let some one else go I probably will not log in untill next weekend. ;)
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 20, 2008, 06:53:03
...but its top speed is 23.75 knots...
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Ship Sim on April 20, 2008, 07:09:04
Thats at cruseing speed titanic was sursposed to go. thats the speed on the game.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on April 20, 2008, 07:32:48
Thats at cruseing speed titanic was sursposed to go. thats the speed on the game.
The real thing WAS recorded going that fast...
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Captain Best on April 20, 2008, 18:30:56
what company did titanic drive for?

What is name of the director of this company ;D
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Ship Sim on April 20, 2008, 18:54:33
Too easy
1 white star line

2I think it was bruise ( know i spelled name rong) Ismay.

If I got it right then let some one else go I only have time to log in on weekends. ;)
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Captain Best on April 20, 2008, 19:07:21
Too easy
1 white star line

2I think it was bruise ( know i spelled name rong) Ismay.

If I got it right then let some one else go I only have time to log in on weekends. ;)
i know it was easy. a baby can answer this ;D your turn...
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Stuart2007 on May 07, 2008, 00:19:00
How many individual iron rivets were used in the construction of the hull (no including the superstructure).

It has been published, but answers to the neares 1000 will do
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on May 07, 2008, 01:29:29
Peter Davies-Garner published a book on his model...

8,000 in each funnel...

4 funnels...

32,000?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Stuart2007 on May 07, 2008, 09:03:44
Well done... but that's the funnels, not the hull...

Clue: It was quite a few
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on May 08, 2008, 02:06:41
Well done... but that's the funnels, not the hull...

Clue: It was quite a few
So you DID mean the whole thing?

That's easy! 3,000,000
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Stuart2007 on May 08, 2008, 19:26:57
So you DID mean the whole thing?

No, like I said... the HULL, not the superstructure. The funnels aren't normally on the hull (at least, not that can be seen externally of course!)
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on May 09, 2008, 12:38:49
No, like I said... the HULL, not the superstructure. The funnels aren't normally on the hull (at least, not that can be seen externally of course!)
3,000,000
-32,000
2,968,000

2,968,000?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on May 20, 2008, 01:12:35
what part of the movie was this?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on May 20, 2008, 03:58:12
what part of the movie was this?
sinking. possibly during the break up.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: trains on May 20, 2008, 19:07:42
dang. your turn. i thought someone would say before the break. ::)
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on May 20, 2008, 22:19:50
how tall were the ship's whistles?
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on May 23, 2008, 15:29:31
The answer was 2 feet.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Al Bundy on May 23, 2008, 17:07:59
The answer was 2 feet.
What is your source? How much do you regard as "whistles" of the arrangement?

Some figures: From base base of the branch to top of the center dome: 4 feet 2inch
Width across the outer bells: 3 feet 6 inch
Diameters of the 3 bells: 9 15 and 12 inches.
But I have not found any measurement of the bells and there were 3 different sizes. 
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on May 23, 2008, 18:37:12
What is your source? How much do you regard as "whistles" of the arrangement?

Some figures: From base base of the branch to top of the center dome: 4 feet 2inch
Width across the outer bells: 3 feet 6 inch
Diameters of the 3 bells: 9 15 and 12 inches.
But I have not found any measurement of the bells and there were 3 different sizes. 
My source:

http://www.abratis.de/ (http://www.abratis.de/)>resources>sounds
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: Al Bundy on May 23, 2008, 18:53:20
Ah okay. I disagree with his measurements but you can document your claim, I cannot find anything about it.

But what is on his photo is 4 feet 2 inches high.
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on May 24, 2008, 22:21:48
Okay.

Next question: If put up vertically, what would be the heights of the four funnels? (Remember: their heights vary)
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: pauljanaway1 on May 27, 2008, 16:21:51
252 feet
Title: Re: Titanic Trivia
Post by: RMS Gigantic on May 28, 2008, 03:02:13
252 feet
each funnel individually.