Ship Simulator
English forum => Ship Simulator 2008 => General discussions => Topic started by: Sir oDD on February 21, 2008, 20:47:42
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Why do people try to spoil the fun for someone else,and why are the moderators give notice to that behavior.
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Hi :)
Very nice poll! :D ;D
Some people just want to spoil it for other I suppose. I think there will always be people like that.
SA
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but why is there no more investigation because i am really a victim off some childs playing kids
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There are logs of everything that happens on the servers. VSTEP investigate it. We as members, don't see this.
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oke
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You have probably been kicked too many times. I know for a fact that you also have been reported for bad behaviour on the servers.
This was most likely investigated by VSTEP and the punishment you have received is probably a result of this.
Regards,
Fred
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could it not have been that the one that report me was self beheaving whery badly and all the players getting really sick of this guy.
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btw i wass kicked 1 time others the see a votekick and the quit connection soo you never get kicked
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could it not have been that the one that report me was self beheaving whery badly and all the players getting really sick of this guy.
The logs will have shown what happened. But I do not see those, that is up to the MP admins. So I cannot say what really went on. I will not disclose anything else about reports and such.
Regards,
Fred
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A log is a log example i was towing whit another tug attached to eachother when this guy saild around us real close you dont read that in a log? he was really trying to get me to hit him and that happened soo he,s screaming you hit why!!!!!!
And that you cant see in a log how athors behave i find it really sad that things go like this.
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Well I cannot say anything about incidents that I have not witnessed.
But if you think you are being treated unfairly, then you can always PM me, or any other moderator, with your side of the story. In such cases, it helps if you make a screenshot for example. When something happens on the server, snap a few pictures, because a picture often tells a lot more than just someone saying "so and so, did this and that.." :)
We don't openly discuss incidents and players on the forum, but if you think you have a valid case and you can prove something, I will be happy to try and help.
Regards,
Fred
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I HAVE TO SAY THAT I HAVE BEEN ON THE MARSELLIES SERVER WITH SIR ODD AND I MY PERSONAL oppinion
Sir odd has allways been helpfull and tryed to enjoy the game.
Eric
I hope some one do'es get the truth
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same with me
one time i did get mad at him but later found out it was someone else so i tryed to apologize
sorry :-\
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Thank you whery much i really appriciate guys for the support.
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what do u mean your quiting shipsim?????????? u are a cool guy whats going on
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And to all its concern Sir oDD is history bye my friends it was nice playing.
IF YOU QUIT THE OTHER GUY WINS that is not what you want stick with it
when the truth is out he may get a lot more come on man week nearly up get back
to you'r real friends .
Eric
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He man 100% agree with Sadsid ;)
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Greetings,
Stepping out of the game,is not realy a good idea.I think if Wout read all the good comments about you,and there is realy nothing that you've done wrong.He can give you back you right to play.
You can be a victim of someone else,who wanted to nail you.
Next time allways take screenshots,when you start to play,then we have a clear view of the situation.
When finishing the game you can easy delete them again.
If you step out,they win(or he).
Marc
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Okay, I don't want to play the bad guy here, but just to put things into perspective, the ban was justified.
There was proof of a violation, and that has been dealt with.
A violation is a violation, no matter if it's 'justified' because someone else is behaving bad aswell.
Leaving the game because of it is no solution, that much is true. for everyone's infomation: Report bad apples to a moderator! Do not take matters into your own hands, do not confront and fight these people, because that will just come back and bite you in the behind. ;)
Regards,
Fred
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Okay, I don't want to play the bad guy here, but just to put things into perspective, the ban was justified.
There was proof of a violation, and that has been dealt with.
A violation is a violation, no matter if it's 'justified' because someone else is behaving bad aswell.
Leaving the game because of it is no solution, that much is true. for everyone's infomation: Report bad apples to a moderator! Do not take matters into your own hands, do not confront and fight these people, because that will just come back and bite you in the behind. ;)
Regards,
Fred
Provide some multiplayer moderators with gun ships and we will see if they do a come-back! :P
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;D
Heheh... good idea.. 8)
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Hi Fred.
Can I apply for position of Captain of the Gunship? I promise to let you play as well so long as you salute me properly. ;D
Any chance of thermonuclear devices?
No? Aw... Spoilsports. ::)
OK,moment of madness over. Before this thread gets drowned in "No guns in Ship Simulator" comments, we were all just joking, so don't comment please!
Thank you. (Hey, no icon for blowing kisses).
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The forum rules are in FAQ and Announcments ;) But I don't know if there is anything for multiplayer :)
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There will be soon. (MP rules)
I had made a list a week or two ago, but it slipped in between the cracks in these busy weeks, I guess.
Even so, I would think that people allready know these rules anyway, as they are common and logical..
Things like no swearing, no crashing, not taking matters in your own hand, no cheating... that's the rule for any game on any server. If a person can't imagine these allready, then there must be something wrong with their attitude to begin with.
Regards,
Fred
Terry, you can be captain of the gunship, as soon as it is released. If you don't mind waiting untill pigs achieve flight. ;D
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Well, I "must" do nothing, but I agree, the rules are needed on the forum. ;D
I would think it's pretty logical though, that certain things would be against the rules. These rules are no different than many rules on many levels in our life. Simply common decency type rules, mostly.
But you have a point about the reporting system for sure. Even though it has been mentioned here and there, a lot of people are not aware that there are other "tools" to use, when confronted by "bad apples"
So the rules will be up on the board soon. Keep in mind though, these rules apply to VSTEP servers. We cannot police user made servers, once the server software is released. The hosts of these servers will make the rules as they see fit, although I doubt VSTEP will stand by doing nothing, when proof of very bad violations against common decency woul be available... :)
Regards,
Fred
* Edit * this post may look out of place, but it seems the one I reacted to has been deleted.. ::)
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Oke ill wil stay playing because of my friends that really helped me in this,guys thanx and fred you also.
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My pleasure!
You should indeed not let this one experience ruin your enjoyment of SS08. We all make mistakes, you did not know what to do and got frustrated with someone.. No big deal! ;)
It's just a game in the end. ;D
You know which cabin door(s) to knock on now, when someone is acting badly. ;)
Regards,
Fred
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Sir oDD,
Thats the right way,please keep on playing.
Regards
Marc
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We cannot police user made servers, once the server software is released. The hosts of these servers will make the rules as they see fit, although I doubt VSTEP will stand by doing nothing, when proof of very bad violations against common decency woul be available... :)
I'd hate to see that EULA! It would be like Microsoft having me arrested if I spell words incorrectly using Word! ;D
But seriously, as someone who is planning to host a server when it becomes available, I intend to have very specific rules of conduct.
At this stage, I am considering setting up a "hunt & destroy" environment for people who want to sink each other. They can do this in groups or singly. I know a lot of users want this, so provided there are strict rules of engagement, people can join in if they so wish. In this way, the other servers will be kept free of such behaviour, I trust.
Open to opinions, though.
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well that got off topic
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Well, it didn't actually.
This discussion is still about bans and misbehaviour on servers.
Even so, that post of yours isn't exactly a shining example of a fine contribution to said discussion either, is it? ;)
Fred
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Being new to ship sim , mistakes will be made, unfortunately some players take this has intent damage on their vessels, could we not have a training server?
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Greetings,
Well,the training,you can do offline,when you are able to steer vessels there,than you can come to our multiplayer server.Than you would have less trouble,with your companion sailors.
Marc
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i understand that but online with others is a more realistic world, also players can help each other out confidence will be gained , then newbies can join the big boys.
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Hi SKIP14,
This is true.
What you can do, when you go online as a "newbie", is to tell this to the other players.
You could say something like "Hi all, I am new to this game, please forgive me if I make a mistake, any hints or tips you might have would be really helpfull and much appreciated"
Something like that.
You will find that 9 out of 10 players will be welcoming you aboard and trying to help you out.
And if you make a mistake and apologize and be very polite about everything, then you would rarely get into any trouble.
As long as you are clear about being new and behave in a nice manner, you'll get a lot of help from people, I am sure of this!
Regards,
Fred
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Hi SKIP14,
This is true.
What you can do, when you go online as a "newbie", is to tell this to the other players.
You could say something like "Hi all, I am new to this game, please forgive me if I make a mistake, any hints or tips you might have would be really helpfull and much appreciated"
Something like that.
You will find that 9 out of 10 players will be welcoming you aboard and trying to help you out.
And if you make a mistake and apologize and be very polite about everything, then you would rarely get into any trouble.
As long as you are clear about being new and behave in a nice manner, you'll get a lot of help from people, I am sure of this!
Regards,
Fred
Cheers fred, well i must say , being new im hooked fortunately i have a good mentor i wont say his name lol his head will grow bigger than humpty dumpty lol
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WELL IT HAS BEEN VERY NICE TO BE READING THESE COMMENTS ON BAD BEHAVIOUR AND THE BANNING OF THOSE WHO DO. I MUST SAY THOUGH THAT I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY SOMEONE WOULD ASK FOR A SEARCH AND DESTROY??? THIS SHIP SIM IS FOR SERIOUS MINDED AND LEVEL HEADED SEAMEN... IT WOULD BE GREAT WHEN THIS PROMISED `USER MADE SERVER` COMES ALONG AND WE SAILORS `EX` THAT IS ;D CAN TEACH THE FUNDIMENTALS OF SEAMANSHIP WITH ALL THE NECESSARY SIGNALLING WITH HORNS ETC. I AND MY CYBER FRIENDS HAVE GREAT TIMES IN FLIGHT SIM WITH OUR OWN VIRTUL AIRLINE, `AIR-UK`, WHERE ANY LEVEL HEADED PERSON CAN FEEL FREE TO JOIN AND BE TAUGHT. THANKS FRED FOR YOUR INTERSTEING AND FAIR INPUT MATE, I HOPE WE MEET IN SESSION SOME DAY ::) PLEASE EXCUSE THE LARGE FONT.. EYE PROBS HERE
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HELLO CAPTAIN1
NO PROBLEM!
AND NO WORRIES ABOUT THE LARGE FONT, WE UNDERSTAND!
THE SERVER SOFTWARE IS STILL UNDERGOING DEVELOPMENT BUT SOME OF US ALLREADY HAD A GO AT TRYING IT OUT AND I MUST SAY IT WILL BE VERY NICE. AND THERE WILL BE A DIRECT WAY FOR THE HOST OR AN ADMIN TO TAKE CARE OF THE 'BAD APPLES'.
WITH A BIT OF LUCK, WE'LL BE HOSTING OUR OWN SERVERS, WITH OUR OWN PURPOSES (FOR EXAMPLE A TRAINING SERVER WHERE VETERANS CAN TEACH NEW PLAYERS) THIS TIME NEXT MONTH. :)
NO NEED FOR ANY GUNBOATS THERE. WHICH I AGREE, IS NOT SUITED FOR SS08 AT ALL, BUT WE WERE ONLY JOKING ABOUT THAT. ;D
WE'LL SURELY MEET ON ONE OF THE SERVERS SOMETIMES! I'M NOT ON MUCH AT THE MOMENT BUT THAT WILL CHANGE WHEN I GET A BIT MORE TIME ON MY HANDS.
REGARDS,
FRED
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Cheers fred, well i must say , being new im hooked fortunately i have a good mentor i wont say his name lol his head will grow bigger than humpty dumpty lol
No problem!
Hooked allready eh? Yep, it's quite common.. I heard that a lot! ;D
bigger than humpty dumpty would be such a problem, as long as he doesn't fall of that wall... ;D
Regards,
Fred
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PLEASE EXCUSE THE LARGE FONT.. EYE PROBS HERE
Little a bit offtopic, but if you have modern browser, try CTRL + + and CTRL + - for ZOOMING. :)
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IT’S NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU AGAIN, JOHN,
IT HAS BEEN A WHILE.
BEST REGARDS,
MARTY
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I MUST SAY THOUGH THAT I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY SOMEONE WOULD ASK FOR A SEARCH AND DESTROY??? THIS SHIP SIM IS FOR SERIOUS MINDED AND LEVEL HEADED SEAMEN...
Hi John.
I think Fred may be able to back me up on this. There have been a LOT of incidents where various people are crashing into and sinking other users. There are also a lot of users who want to organise into groups and go and find (and presumably sink) the other group.
As a result, I'm offering to set up a server where they can do just that, and then leave the other servers for those of us who want to do other things. I have to say that although I will happily host it, I wil probably never use it. I have a couple of real vessels and weather permitting will much rather go out in one of those.
PS No caps lock needed. Use the "size" button when posting messages.
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If you are able to do this,thanks
However,i think they have something else inmind.
Marc
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Cool.. now even grandma can read this post :P
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Cool.. now even grandma can read this post :P
Hi Marc.
I'm happy to do this. With the right publicity and managing, maybe this can become successful.
I'm involved in some other similar systems (including a limited membership system invoving people flying around in a Star Trek universe, blasting each other and also being involved in inter-galactic politics). Some of them have been running for 5 or more years, very successfully.
Cool.. now even grandma can read this post :P
Hi JHB.
Yep. My old Gran reckons this is great, even though she's been dead for the past 20 years. But as John says, us serious seamen....
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Well,i like the idea anyway.
If this works with the rest,why not with us.
Maybe i have a look to someday,just to be currious.
Marc
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Until the server software gets past its testing stages, things could change. But it goes the way I think and hope it will, this could be an interesting development.
I have a decent PC ready and waiting for this (still in the box).
Let me know,when it's running.
Regards
Marc
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lol well idk what to say lol
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Until the server software gets past its testing stages, things could change. But it goes the way I think and hope it will, this could be an interesting development.
I have a decent PC ready and waiting for this (still in the box).
Let me know,when it's running.
Regards
Marc
Hi Marc.
It can be running any time I have something to load on it. I always keep a few spare here. I have 8 fixed, static IP addresses available and can spare probably a meg bandwidth in and out if need be.
Feel free to contact me off-line if you want. Always happy to help.
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HELLO CAPTAIN1
NO PROBLEM!
AND NO WORRIES ABOUT THE LARGE FONT, WE UNDERSTAND!
THE SERVER SOFTWARE IS STILL UNDERGOING DEVELOPMENT BUT SOME OF US ALLREADY HAD A GO AT TRYING IT OUT AND I MUST SAY IT WILL BE VERY NICE. AND THERE WILL BE A DIRECT WAY FOR THE HOST OR AN ADMIN TO TAKE CARE OF THE 'BAD APPLES'.
WITH A BIT OF LUCK, WE'LL BE HOSTING OUR OWN SERVERS, WITH OUR OWN PURPOSES (FOR EXAMPLE A TRAINING SERVER WHERE VETERANS CAN TEACH NEW PLAYERS) THIS TIME NEXT MONTH. :)
NO NEED FOR ANY GUNBOATS THERE. WHICH I AGREE, IS NOT SUITED FOR SS08 AT ALL, BUT WE WERE ONLY JOKING ABOUT THAT. ;D
WE'LL SURELY MEET ON ONE OF THE SERVERS SOMETIMES! I'M NOT ON MUCH AT THE MOMENT BUT THAT WILL CHANGE WHEN I GET A BIT MORE TIME ON MY HANDS.
REGARDS,
FRED
THANKS FRED MATE. BY THE WAY WE HAVE MET ON SESSION A COUPLE OF TIMES AND THE LAST TIME WAS TEUSDAY EVE IN HAMBURG WHERE THAT NEUSENCE `MDF` OR SOME NAME LIKE THAT WAS BEING KICKED OUT EVERY FEW SECONDS BUT HE WOULDN'T GIVE UP AS HE EVEN TRIED COMMING BACK IN UNDER ANOTHER NAME, BUT HIS SMALL MIND COULDN'T BEAT THE MORE SUPERIOR MINDS AS THEY PERSEVERED AND OVER COME HIS STUPIDITY ::)... I MUST SAY AT THIS POINT THAT I FELT SO ALONE IN THAT SESSION FRED, IN MY FULLY FUELED UP FAIRMOUNT WITH A VERY COMPETENT SKIPPER AND CREW :'( AS I WAS REJECTED BY EACH AND EVERY ONE IN THE SESSION... ONLY FOR ME TO WITNESS THEM SINKING ONE AFTER ANOTHER :D... I HAD TO BE CONTENT WITH GOING OFF ON MY OWN UP RIVER AND DO SOME VERY TIGHT REVERSING MANOUVERS TO GET `TUCKED IN` BEHIND THOSE TWO FLOATING DRY DOCKS, IGLO WAS HAVING A WHALE OF A TIME WITH YOU MATE :P THANKS FOR ALL YOUR INFO ON THE FORUM FRED AS I WATCH WITH GREAT INTREST...JOHNBOY ::)
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Hi John,
No problem!
Are you sure that it was me, by the way, on the MP session?
Because, I haven't been on the Hamburg Server for weeks.. Mostly Solent and Marseille. And I cannot remember anything like the stuff you describe to be honest. Either it was another Fred, or someone is out there impersonating me.. hehe :)
Regards,
Fred
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OH NOW YOU'VE GOT ME WORRIED ABOUT MY MEMORY ::) I WAS SO SURE IT WAS MAD FRED AND ANOTHER BLOKE NAMED IGLO AND A FEW OTHERS WHO WERE BANTERING THROUGHOUT THE SESSION....BUT I WILL MAKE IT A POINT IN THE FUTURE TO WRITE DOWN NAMES SO I WON'T GET IT WRONG AGAIN SORRY FRED :) I DO HOPE WE MEET ON LINE SOON THOUGH, SO WE CAN HAVE SOME MANOUVERS TOGETHER ALONG WITH MY MATES, SKIP AND KURT. I'M TEACHING THEM THE FUNDAMENTALS OF SHIP HANDLING, GREAT FUN FOR ALL AND THEY ARE BOTH VERY KEEN SINCE BEING INTRODUCED TO SHIP SIM. AM I RIGHT IN THINKING IT IS ONLY THE SMALL DOCK TUG WITH THE RUBBER BUMPERS ON THE BOW THAT ARE THE ONLY TUG TO BE ABLE TO PUSH SHIPS INTO LEVEL DOCKING FRED?
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Hey John, :)
No need to apologize!!!
Well, basically you could push too with some other vessels.. but the harbour tug is the only one that can do it without much trouble with damaging/sinking the vessel you want to assist. And even then, sometimes, no matter how carefull you are, it will still damage the ship you want to push.
The damage model needs a few tweaks for sure. ;)
Regards,
Fred
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why dos'nt someone set up a playground server, where the people who have payed there money for this product but want to mess about can, with other like minded people, not me i hasten to add, just i used to use air attack which had the same problem with kids etc, they set the noob server up and it seemed to work, just an idea... let then ram and sink to there hearts content without getting kicked, away from the VR world we try to produce....
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Hi jamino,
Well, the simple answer is, that there is no way for players to host a server yet, untill the server software is released. And when it is, then I would pretty much assume there would be more than jsut one servers set up for that purpose. :)
But VSTEP is surely not going to set up such a server. They have created a simulation game, not an arcade bash em' up game. ;D
But when the server software is released, those people who do not want to play this game as it was intended to play, will have their own places to go and we will be rid of them. Well, apart from the rammers that do it to annoy us serious players. But they will just receive longer and longer bans untill they realise that they can't win. ;)
Regards,
Fred
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why dos'nt someone set up a playground server, where the people who have payed there money for this product but want to mess about can, with other like minded people, not me i hasten to add, just i used to use air attack which had the same problem with kids etc, they set the noob server up and it seemed to work, just an idea... let then ram and sink to there hearts content without getting kicked, away from the VR world we try to produce....
Very good idea of Jamino.
1 noobserver hosted by Vstep with at least the following 'ships':
Hoovercraft
Jetski
Ducky (we know it can be added in multiplayer too)
The powerboat
and some other ships
This will attract the youngsters who are messing up 'games' of other players on the other servers !
You can change the environment once and a while so they keep using it.
Kind regards,
Captain Koboi
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Grinn.. just last saterday i got my Vermaas grounded on the docks of Marseille and hadda ask for help of two Towers.. one stuck to/with me and i parked the Vermaas to the left of the oncoming traffic (little unshallow part from the containerterminal to the exit of the harbour. One of them harbour respons vessils was naggin on my 6 by wanting to grab himself a towline on me.. on my STERN... whilst i was moving the other way.. so denied towline about ehr.. 7 times.. Then he quit but kept stalking me on my port, and quite close... one of the towers asked to connect and towed my bow to port, making my hull crash with the little one, sinking him.. and me.. i thought he knew what was happening.. and maybe move outtof the way.. as i saw my bow turn to port he just typed "Hey!" and didn't move an inch to maybe try and avoid an oncoming catastrophy... i didn't think my bow would turn that easily either! or that the tower was purpendicular to my position.. doh! So the next second of impact the guy shouts in capslockletter "YOU SANK ME" ... somehow i admit the mistake... but to be shouted at like that... for a towingjob gone wrong!? Still got the screenshot... hahaha.. in case a civil suit gets planted... as far as i know i was on HIS starboard... does that count as "right of way" like it does on land.. hahaha... Uptill that moment it was only my second online venture, and the marseille server was really stable.. at least for me. But just incase the little gnome complains.. ill find out if i'm banned for it once i try to go online again eh? And no.. i'm not a wrecker, lol.. even gave the tip to one of the guys that when responding to a possible sinking they should not steam directly to the ship in question at full speed.. but go to freewalk camera and controll the ship with the mouse, to be sure there is no-one in the way....look around and get situational awareness first..... as our HM got trampled in the chaos... ;D It was unfortunate, but heartwarming to see just about EVERY vessil in the facinity steam towards me and my crew and the other sinker. Awsome job guys.
Regards,
Frankestein
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suck ups :-|
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suck ups :-|
What do you mean by that? I don't understand you.
Please enlghten.
Thanks!
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Terry, please don't try to understand americanisms mate. Suck up in the normal world means to enjoy a drink through a straw, but we are stuck with those people who use the English language as a means to look `cool` ::) They don't seem to have the ability to put into words what they really mean :)
I just read that peice from SJ Stein and i must fully agree with what he is saying because i too experienced the same level of stupidity not only in the Marseilles session and last night in the Hamburg session too, but kids will be kids and untill we get a system like is used in `gamespy` where individuals can make their own sessions and police them then the kids will do their `thing` sorry to say.
I have experienced lately that there seems to be some self appointed HM's running amok lately too. The Marsielles `HM` behaving like a spoilt brat by closing down parts of the port and when the ships didn't let him have his power craze he kicked them. Then in the Hamburg session another `HM? shipwreck` was in the same frame of mind threatening to report a capt for useing caps lock, even though it was explained over and over again that the reason for caps lock at that time was because of eye sight problems, and if his Hm duties where carried out in real life he would have received a dishonerable discharge >:(. can anyone explain to me how it is possible for these guys to be able to take on this role of power and disrupt the flow of common decency amongst the other more responsible ship commanders?
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John,
Unfortunately, the kiddies see MP as one big sandbox.
Terry,
To “suck up†is to produce a pleasing vacuum at someone’s stern hawse pipe.
Regards,
Marty
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Doesn't sound like a pleasure at all to me that pipe :D
Suck up... i guess in the context it's about the same as my American buds call me "nuckin Futs"
And i fully agree on the "big Sandbox" theory.. but then again.. when hosting your own server, when available, how would you get some new captains in? Probation or something? that means a forum has to be attached to your server, so that other members on your server will know what is happening and who's a good 'un... or just open the server a couple of hours every once in a while for recruiting purposes. Ah well.. we'll see.. as long as i dont get a nice bofors on my stern with a future update , it's not that bad yet.
Regards,
Frankestein
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I have experienced lately that there seems to be some self appointed HM's running amok lately too. The Marsielles `HM` behaving like a spoilt brat by closing down parts of the port and when the ships didn't let him have his power craze he kicked them. Then in the Hamburg session another `HM? shipwreck` was in the same frame of mind threatening to report a capt for useing caps lock, even though it was explained over and over again that the reason for caps lock at that time was because of eye sight problems, and if his Hm duties where carried out in real life he would have received a dishonerable discharge >:(. can anyone explain to me how it is possible for these guys to be able to take on this role of power and disrupt the flow of common decency amongst the other more responsible ship commanders?
Hello John,
If self appointed HM's are not behaving with the best interest of the other players at heart, yet seem to just want to enjoy a power trip, then you may report them just as you would report other disruptive players.
No one gave them any authority on these servers, I repeat, no single player that acts as a HM has any real authority on these servers. (Did you get that, dear HM's??)
If they abuse their (non-existant) power, report them! If they abuse the kick function, report them! If they force players to do what they say and ruin the fun by doing so, report them! This is not how this HM game is meant to be played. Simple as that!
Don't let a power tripping kid ruin the fun for experienced players that actually know what to do. Just report them to us. The chat logs will show any misbehaving, and if they cross the line to many times, or jsut far enough once, they can play HM in single player mode for a week, to start with. ;D
Regards,
Fred
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SO AM I TO SUPPOSE FRED, THAT TO REPORT THIS UNSAVERY BEHAVIOUR I JUST HAVE TO SAY IT ON THIS FORUM, OR IS THERE SOME OTHER WAY? WHAT DID UPSET ME MORE THAN SHIPWRECK'S SELF APPOINTED DISASTER WAS THE WAY HE EVEN HAD THE AUDASITY TO MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE WITH EYESIGHT PROBLEMS. " I'M BLIND" HE SAID AS HE WAS ANSWERING HIS MATE `FREDDY`... B Y THE WAY FRED, IT WAS FREDDY I WAS THINKING WAS YOU A FEW DAYS AGO :).... ALSO I AND MANY OTHERS I'VE SPOKEN TO, ARE FED UP WITH THAT MESSAGE ASKING IF WE AGREE TO KICK SO AND SO EVEN IF WE ARE NOT EVEN NEAR THE PERSON, SO HOW CAN WE AGREE ? I HAVE NOTICED THOUGH, THAT EVEN IF I AND MY IN GAME MATES SAY NO,,THE PERSON IS STILL KICKED. I JUST WONDER HOW IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO THIS.. I WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO ASK IN THE FIRST PLACE.
ANY WAY THANKS TO ALL FOR CLEARING UP THIS QUESTION OF `POWER OF AUTHORITY`.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK VSTEP AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR MAKEING LIFE MORE BEARABLE :)
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Shipwreck does not seem to be very smart.... (check his posts or replys on this forum and you will notice)
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Hoy guy's,
Well, i've seen his posts,and his behaviour.
I'm not very pleased,with this guy.
He had a open fight on this forum,now he's ruins the game by playing HM,as a dictator.
Well,he's been reported a couple of times,so i think he will be judged.
If this can help.
Regards
Marc
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SO AM I TO SUPPOSE FRED, THAT TO REPORT THIS UNSAVERY BEHAVIOUR I JUST HAVE TO SAY IT ON THIS FORUM, OR IS THERE SOME OTHER WAY? WHAT DID UPSET ME MORE THAN SHIPWRECK'S SELF APPOINTED DISASTER WAS THE WAY HE EVEN HAD THE AUDASITY TO MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE WITH EYESIGHT PROBLEMS. " I'M BLIND" HE SAID AS HE WAS ANSWERING HIS MATE `FREDDY`... B Y THE WAY FRED, IT WAS FREDDY I WAS THINKING WAS YOU A FEW DAYS AGO :).... ALSO I AND MANY OTHERS I'VE SPOKEN TO, ARE FED UP WITH THAT MESSAGE ASKING IF WE AGREE TO KICK SO AND SO EVEN IF WE ARE NOT EVEN NEAR THE PERSON, SO HOW CAN WE AGREE ? I HAVE NOTICED THOUGH, THAT EVEN IF I AND MY IN GAME MATES SAY NO,,THE PERSON IS STILL KICKED. I JUST WONDER HOW IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO THIS.. I WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO ASK IN THE FIRST PLACE.
ANY WAY THANKS TO ALL FOR CLEARING UP THIS QUESTION OF `POWER OF AUTHORITY`.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK VSTEP AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR MAKEING LIFE MORE BEARABLE :)
Hi John,
To report someone, you just send one of the moderators a PM. We prefer not doing this in the open, so we ask that people use private messaging.
In this PM, you can just give a brief description of the incident. Also, you'd include the;
1) Name of the culprit, 2) Name of the Server, 3) Date, and 4) Time.
If it concerns a report about ramming, it would be very usefull if you take some screenshots aswell, as proof.
A picture is worth a thousand words, and we often cannot judge a case by words alone anyway.
But if it is about things that are visible in the chat logs, then a picture is not really needed.
As far as the kick vote goes, a player will be kicked if at least 50% of the players agree. But as we have had some complaints about this feature being abused, we will be watching certain people on certain servers closely. Any abuse will result in the people responsible being banned instead!
And as you say you didn't know how to initiate a kick vote, you just click on the name of the player you wish to be removed from the server, in the player list. Then, when he/she is highlighted, you press "K". This will start a kick vote and now all the others will receive that message you mentioned.
This should clear things up I guess.
Glad to be of service. (btw, we mods are not VSTEP personnel.) ;D
Regards,
Fred
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Terry, please don't try to understand americanisms mate.
I have to, my friend. The Missus is from New Joisey.
Terry,
To suck up is to produce a pleasing vacuum at someone’s stern hawse pipe.
Regards,
Marty
Thanks, Marty.
Now I understand. I'm more familiar with "to suck up" meaning to be extra friendly in order to gain an advantage.
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Hoy guy's,
Well, i've seen his posts,and his behaviour.
I'm not very pleased,with this guy.
He had a open fight on this forum,now he's ruins the game by playing HM,as a dictator.
Well,he's been reported a couple of times,so i think he will be judged.
If this can help.
Regards
Marc
Thanks Marc.
It sounds like he is intent on upsetting as many people as possible. Also sounds like you guys have things in motion now.
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i think some people should have authoridy, such as moderits when they are online as long as they dont control people they would just have special powers to make sure people arent mean to other people such as when someone thinks they have complete control or when they swear. Also those moderits should have the power to warn people to give them a chance but then when they still do it ban them for a little while
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Greetings,
Yes,if we are on one of the servers,we are still moderators than.This means if we hear or see somthing,we will act as on the forum.
In some cases,it would be more easy to have a clear view of the problem.
On the otherhand,as a mod,we are in the game not all the time with a fast vessel to go to the place of delict.
I agree that would help to,but i like to steer the big vessels,and it is not very handy to go to that place with for example the "Latitude" ;D
Any way we keep an eye open ,when we are on the servers.
Regards
Marc
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It sounds like he is intent on upsetting as many people as possible.
Hello TerryRussel,
Have complete the same feeling about him.
And i'm not alone.
Regards
Marc
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Shipwreck does not seem to be very smart.... (check his posts or replys on this forum and you will notice)
Well Cobi i will not be reading any of shipwrecks posts because i've seen enough of him to last me a life time, and from my vast experinces of life and suffering to this day I know shipwreck is the tip of the iceburg ( pardon the pun)....Only last night I experienced a speed freek in a session who asked " is your boat ram proof"? no names no pack drill... But it just goes to show `they` are out there ::)...But i have been pleasently releaved to have been reading all the good comments on this thread and iI am now more updated on how to see fair justice done ;)
kind regards to all and i hope we all meet on session soon :)
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Offcource,he is not alone on the forum/multiplayer,who makes the game no fun for the rest.
We al need your help to look for them also,which you all did sofar.
On the end they get problems anyway.
Regards
Marc
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I am in the middle of setting up a video monitoring system, which will record events on the MP servers as they happen. I will then start going on to the servers a lot more often than I have in the past. This way, if any rammers are upsetting people, there will be full video coverage of what happened.
This will also capture the swearing and other unacceptable behaviour.
I will not be using my "usual" name, as I have purchased another copy of Ship Simulator and will have a number of MP user names.
So, rammers and swearers beware. You'll never know if I am watching you! Not until I report you, of course.
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I have to, my friend. The Missus is from New Joisey.
Thanks, Marty.
Now I understand. I'm more familiar with "to suck up" meaning to be extra friendly in order to gain an advantage.
Oh Terry my friend, i wasn't picking on the American people in general mate though it may have sounded the opposite, I was refering to the way of life that has stamped itself on the world ` East West` divide...We here in Britain have had the North South divide since the Romans left us all in it ;D and now we are plagued with the European `union` ???? :o....But we on ship sim have a majority union of good common sense and to me it is a much needed therapy to out do any know medical treatment ;D
You Terry have made me now realise that I have been `sucking up`to gain advantage all my married life mate :-[ ::) and by your post it sounds like you are the master :) any futher tips will be very much appreciated by all your ship mates. Marty has been on the wrong tack all these years, I wish him well on his recovery from sore lips :).. good sailing guys.. regards to all :)
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Unfortunately there's always a bad apple, It can be very destressing when trying to keep ones damage % down then some knumbnut uses one has target practice, i can sink myself thank you very much ;D LOL but i'm getting better lol, my son also sails now and sometimes after a serious hour or so of sailing we sometimes let our hair down and have fun chasing n crashing into each other.. but unlike some we do this in our own space way away from other players, the odd few on here seem to lack respect for others and spoil it for the majority and fortunately they are the minority, hopefully these people responsible will read this forum and change their ways.
Regards
Dave
Shame to him who thinks evil of this. HONI SOIL QUI MAL Y PENSE or something like that ;D
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dout it dave....but its a nice thought ;D
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No!!This is the game made for the first idea,to have fun!!
If you want to play in the game ,with your son,please do!!
However you said,we do it,far away from the rest.Well no one will complaned.
At that time you dont mess up the game from some one else.
NO problem at all,not one member will report you.
There are others!!
Marc
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I have only been in multiplayer a few times and gave up because of a lack of traffic. If anyone wants to take risks etc and don't have a son to play with, they can always ask if anyone on the server fancies a bit of "chase me round the harbour" but, as SKIP14 says, do it away from players who want to be left in peace.
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As I've said elsewhere in this forum, once the new server software is released and users can host their own MP servers, I intend to provide one environment for people who want to play hunt and chase games.
Yesterday I completed building the server hardware (Quad 2.66GHz processors, 4GB RAM, 1TB HDD, 8 Meg (no contention) DSL link). Operating System is now installed, so just waiting for final version of server software from Vstep.
Hope you'll use this once it's ready. No information yet about release date as the software is still being tested.
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Good news that Terry.We have all been getting very frustrated this last two days when in `any` session. Ships / Boats are flying around in the air and yes even submerged and then re appearing miles away. total chaos.I for one am looking forward to some kind of stability asap.
take care all. regards...
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Well I cannot say anything about incidents that I have not witnessed.
But if you think you are being treated unfairly, then you can always PM me, or any other moderator, with your side of the story. In such cases, it helps if you make a screenshot for example. When something happens on the server, snap a few pictures, because a picture often tells a lot more than just someone saying "so and so, did this and that.." :)
We don't openly discuss incidents and players on the forum, but if you think you have a valid case and you can prove something, I will be happy to try and help.
Regards,
Fred
Hi I wonder if you can help me - I have seen your posts on banning. I have been banned for a week because someone has sent false screenshots of me crashing into ships. They logged in as a name similar to me and went crashing ships and then sent in the screenshots - this is totally unfair but surely the records on the servers will show it wasnt actually me? I know that a group of dutch decided they didnt like me but I didnt do anything wrong. I only go on to sail peacefully with my brother and I annoyed this group because I sank by accident and didnt leave imediately. I am extremely annoyed that ppl feel it necessary to go to the extents of getting someone banned by making false screenshots. Also what is stopping these people doing this again to me and getting me banned permanently. This is really awful behaviour what can I do to stop this happening to me. I feel as I was the only english person that offended this group of dutch I am being victimised. Hope you can help me - even if I stay off for 7 days I am worried the same thing will happen again to me.
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Captain Picard, You received the ban today. After that you've send several pm's. Please have a bit of patience and stop using the forum for the discussion of individual bans.
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Picard,
Best not to cast your problems as one nationality against another. Many on this forum will find that offensive, and not just those from the nations involved. There is enough of that silliness outside. We like to think that here, at least, we can work in harmony and develop friendships that transcend the international dustups.
Regards,
Marty
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There are a few mindless peeps out there spoiling the game for others, just been in marsaille must be kids for the way they constantly smashed into my vermas after spending alot of time docking it ....name n shame i say lol ..but i did the right thing and sent a pm to whom it matters lol.
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I have to say that I have visited the Dutch (and other) MP environments quite a lot. I have never received anything except pleasant, friendly welcomes.
They laugh at my attempts at Dutch or German or French and I am impressed with their splendid use of the English Language. Never witnessed anything unfriendly. :)
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Perhaps the ban system should be linked to the rank system whereby each time anyone rams a ship they are reduced in rank by one step, if they reach the lowest level of rank and have a collison, the other players can vote on whether they believe the incident was accidental or on purpose, if accidental their rank is simply reduced to 0, if on purpose their rank is reduced to 0 and they are banned for a week.
It would also be good if the ships could be toughened up a little as they do seem a litttle fragile when pushed with tugs.
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There are a few effects of MP which can cause ships to seem to ram each other, quite unintentionally, and sometimes without the rammer even being aware of it.
When there is a lag (e.g. with a slow connection etc), it is possible for a player to see other ships in the locations they occupied a short time ago. The player then goes through what he/she believes is empty space, but to the other player, they have just been rammed.
There are also problems with over-elastic tow ropes which cause ships to hurtle into each other.
So not all rammings are intended. I am sure that some innocent people get blamed sometimes.
It will be very difficult to litigate for that.
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terrys RIGHT! these bans ARN'T FAIR!!!! >:(
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Terry wasn't talking about any specific ban.
Which bans do you mean, white runner?
Cause if people are innocent and make a good case, they won't be banned.
Mistakes are made, the staff is only human too, but if people get kicked without reason, then they should also report that to us. That way we know what might be going on.
But most of the bans are deserved. 99% at least. And the rest will be put right. Simple as that.
Regards,
Fred
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Yes, what I am saying is that before anyone goes shouting "Rammer", just try talking to the other person. Sometimes it will show that they didn't deliberately ram.
But, there are a lot of hooligans out there. In those cases, if I had the power, I would ban them permanently.
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uhhhhhh. no. bans as in over reactive to minor things (donoth07)